Don't undersell yourself man!

Yeah, I haven't even gotten to JS yet and just learned flexbox and I was thinking wth is there so much going on in the code. Feels good to know I'm not doing bad so far :D Been at it about a month or so, 4 kids and work also, fun fun

@@Loki_Dokie well you won’t do much with JS if you intend to only stick to front end pages without any framework/complexe features and interactivity

@@ness9038 I'm past that point now lol, just went over AJAX and learning fetch next. Built a simple custom http library. I'm getting there :) Though I am eventually going to full-time Shopify store creation freelance and then theme development at some point. Going to learn Vue next as well as liquid(which is pretty simple) Hard to believe I've done all this since last comment, cheers

Crazy I was selling myself short as well and I knew this 1 year ago but just seen this video now

I pretty much expected everyone to use templates given how little I was paying them. At these price points, I don't blame anybody for using templates.

the guy who made the gig is simply downloading a free design off the internet, changing the title and logo.. and charging $7 for it. no way any custom work was actually been done

But at the same time you’re paying $7 for a template that cost $17, so I guess it’s a win win for both in a way 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@quab6231 Nope, nobody will sell you a $7 gig where they pay $17 for a template - but rather download some generic half-broken, hardly ever maintained free template and use it for the $7 gig. Paid templates are probably used by the more expensive $40+ gigs, where the designer will buy a $17 template to make his life easier and just pocket the difference as profit. gigs at the price bracket of around $100 or more, are where a paid template will be used but probably also be customized to fit some specified customer needs. Finally, truly unique custom-made template will probably be a part of the much more expensive gigs, where you pay north of $300-350, but get a one off, unique design template. one that nobody else have because it is not available to purchase anywhere (custom made design, from scratch) Even on those "cheap" freelancer platforms, for anything more complex then a static html landing page, you really get what you paid for

ikr, the only thing i would use bootstrap for is maybe the dropdown menus

and idk why thy would need a theme for that its really simple

That's most likely due to the fact that those "devs" actually have no idea how CSS actually works. I've been in a Facebook group with lots of freelance "web-devs" who pretty much skip CSS and go straight to bootstrap. I'd never consider bootstrap for a site of that scale but then again bootstrap is also most likely part of the themes they use. Fiverr is.... a weird place for web-development. It's considered "ez money" in some countries and those guys are pretty much all just throwing themselves onto Fiverr to get that ez money with themes or website builders. I mean ... a website, even if it's just a single pager for 7$? I'd make more money by collecting PET bottles on the street.

@@Draghful whats wrong with using bootstrap?

@@crimsonwolf4490 Nothing is wrong with using bootstrap. But using bootstrap without having any idea how CSS works is just a bad idea.

Haha I'm aware

i was actually planning on setting up fiverr gigs for 5 dollars to 30 dollars and not using themes or anything just react

@@deleteduser5336 yes, but people on those platforms are looking for "good looking" for a "lowball price".. people are looking for a "bang for their buck" rather than quality that pays.. that is why you see a ton of complete amateurs having thousands of orders - they claim they will develop an app that is responsive, beautiful, and using all the best stacks etc.. all for like $15... that can never happen in reality unless they are willing to work for a loss ... Just using react without any fancy stuff on top of it is fine as long as your customer is aware of what he is getting... even if you are a react wizz... you will never be able to make it sensible to develop even the most basic react apps for 5-30$, the dumbest app you will probably get to do will take you at least a few hours to put together... your time as a software developer (if you are good) for 3-4 hours development time for the most basic app is already worth more than $30... when I say basic app - today people take a basic app as much more than a static one page application.. my 2 cents

@@davideyt1242 ok, I’m alright. I have a few months of experience

By no means is Bootstrap bad, in fact, I still use it on some projects. However, too often it is used in cases when it is not warranted: Bootstrap provides a lot of functionality, and if you're only using a few pieces of it, you may be better off just writing those pieces from scratch to save your website the bloat of having to load the ENTIRE Bootstrap library. Additionally, if you're just learning how to code, you are probably better off learning how to write all of your styles from scratch instead of learning with a library, because that way you won't be tied to a library and you will be less likely to use it as a crutch. Overall, it will make you a more flexible programmer if you don't tie yourself to a library from the get-go.

@@GeekLaunch i learned html css first then a little of bootstrap soon will start Java script

@@dzexii There's no true yes or no about Bootstrap, but in general: If you have a project where the design isn't important and/or you have a lot of working going on in the back-end, like a complicated JS project or whatever, Bootstrap can save time. If not, you're probably going to re-edit most of the Bootstrap elements and it would be much easier to do it by scratch. Unless you have a really large project, typing all the CSS by hand isn't going to take forever

That's how I did it. I just paid for the files, not for hosting.

ikr

dude, my country is suffering from dollar issue ,7 dollars has great value here i joined the gym yesterday for 4$/m, so for 7$ i would create a full website from scratch

@@thechingochingo9956 and that's the issue mate, accepting jobs at low rate

@@zeit6401 it's not a "low rate" in all countries, 1$ = 70 rupees here in india, other countries have even more value for 1$. Just cause you feel it is a low rate doesn't mean it is a low rate for everyone

@@neeravkapuganti1183 it is

Oh no it's worse than I thought

It's because of people like you that the web development market has become such a hell. You beggars.

Try me. I can do better

@@wadaskid you’re like 9 years old

Learn by doing

yeah but with taxes that guy only made 4 dollars with that gig

I'm sorry! That's unfortunate

The first technique for not getting disappointed on those freelancing platforms is avoid those $5-7 gigs, which will disappoint for sure, if you are getting any thing emailed to you at all... cheap is expensive, even on those platforms, I have found out that a generic web site that should be responsive and with a half-decent design that will be maintainable would never cost less than $100, even on fivver - you get what you paid for, at the end

Lmao

How are you doing mate?

Yes how are you doing??

lmao

Given the use of templates, no image optimization and so on, I'd say closer to 10 minutes of work. There is literally nothing custom about those sites. It's just copy pasting images/text into the already existing container, apart from that one guy who closed is twice by accident... but that didn't take him 50 minutes. And I mean... 7$ for 10 minutes? That's 42$ per hour. Not a bad deal... for the seller.

@@Draghful i will say 5 mins... and less

I think you might be right 🤔

@@GeekLaunch yea gave 100 dollar work and it was just copied from GitHub with very minor change.

It's called pull stack development l :)

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