Care to share more details about the production process?

Impressive statement xD

@@Sh8dyLain he just said he can't remember!

@@Sh8dyLain I was just a junior animator at the time. Not much to share, sorry.

@@matttwigg9293 I know you said you don't remember but do you have ANY fond memories? Or maybe even someone that you worked with and keep contact with?

It's not only a problem with D&D. A lot of other licenced games suffer from it as well.

They apparently did it before Disney and Amazon made it cool...

This also kind of a problem with non-video game DnD products

True. I feel like only Larian is really trying to make sure quality meet the expectation.

@@thebrokenmask8304The Larian that pulled the same cheap move with their Baldur's Gate 3 game, that has absolutely nothing to do with Baldur's Gate series?

Thinking of studio execs as spiteful wizards actually seems to explain their behavior better than anything else I've heard!

from the sound of it the devs just weren't good and made 2 failures and closed personally I'd rather have seen these devs make it big with something decent quality and I'd love a dev like Eutechynx to go tits up.....cus those fools now 40+ years in the games industry and not one chart topping hit to their name, just piles and piles of trash to their name....I still fail to see how these fools lasted this long when so many shit tier devs collapse in 1-3 games Eutechynx made SRS street racing Syndicate, some ASCAR games and Ride To Hell....there is not way they should remain a thing...someone with very deep pockets has to be funding em or if there is a cursed dev it's them.....cursed to make trash and remain a viable business..... one day I definitely wanna hear the biography of Eutechynx and learn how they stayed open so long....

How is being "cursed" a meme thing?

@@mercster click bait kids KZfaqrs call everything cursed. Look it up, its awful

@@darthXreven Maybe they're a money laundering front.

TBF D&D Excuse Plots and dungeon setups have never been famous for making overmuch sense.

There is no time for lengthy explanation. Then immediately goes into a lengthy explanation.

@@Jordan-Ramses "Do as I preach, not as I do" :P

Oooh, it's going on the list! Thank you!

You know it was bad when they straight up said so in Fallout 2. You could get an easter egg magic 8 ball and one of the messages it gave you was "Yes, we know Undermountain was crap."

That game was the worst.

Came to say this too. Daggerdale is cheap and forgettable and I never bothered doing a second playthrough with a different character, but I personally don't recall minding it too much until the final battle; I was okay with it enough to play it to the end. With Descent to Undermountain, I couldn't stomach dealing with it anymore past an hour or so and never returned. It's legit terrible, outside of its using what would later be the tavern music in Baldur's Gate. That's the one good thing I can recall about it.

definitely a phenomenal piece of shit

Obligatory _sudden but inevitable betrayal_ memes - not that D&D badguy types were much noted for having invested in the Think This Through feat chain in general ofc

@@broadbandislife immediately the party wipes her out too and theres no sequel xD

@@kolbydavenport4696 Eh, it's a vidyagaem cutscene. It doesn't have to worry about cynical players going "lol fuck that shit" on the unspoken agreement on letting villains finish their rants (and if need be promptly Exit Stage Left afterwards) :P

I'm with you for sure, the dev team did what they could, but I imagine they were rushed, understaffed and underfunded.

But that is just an assumption.

@@WilliamSRD Correct on all 3 😆 Luckily, most of the people I know from Bedlam moved on to bigger and better things.

you should play DnD dark alliance 2021 I personally liked it but most people didnt I would wait for it to go on sale since like $40 is too much even for someone who likes the game

I'll be honest I subbed purely to see what 40k game you want to torture your audience with. There are SOOOOO manyyyy.

If you like 4e, check out "Revival: A Dungeons & Dragons Real-Play Podcast"

do it!!!! hahaha

If you played this game 20+ years ago it would be a little dull, but perhaps not the worst game you'd play that year. 20 years ago (around a decade before the game was actually released) it might not even seem that bad. Heroes of the Lance? That shit is straight up not playable. It is barely a game. This is not hyperbole. If you think this is bad, you have no idea. My experience is with the NES version (which is very easy to get running on an emulator. I actually did have the cartridge as a kid, though.) The PC version is, from what I understand, only marginally better.

Oh, exactly! It was THE edition for cRPGs! Such a WASTE!

@@WilliamSRD A large part of the problem with videogames in the 4e era of D&D (i would say 2008-2012/2013) was that the license for games was held by Atari (guess who published this game here) and they didn't really do anything with it, publishing stuff most likely just to prove they're maintaining the license. in 2009 Hasbro sued Atari to get the license back (Atari was also sublicencing it to Bandai Namco at the time I believe which was a contractual no-no if memory serves... it's been a few years) and only in late 2011 did they get it back. unsurprisingly, this game came out mid 2011, likely when the writing was on the wall that the license was going away.

@Oxybe Atari also made games like Neverwinter Nights, which is fantastic imo, especially with all the expansions. The games weren't all bad. Note Neverwinter Nights, NOT Neverwinter, the latter is hot garbage when you compare it to how good DnD Online was.

@Mustang McKraken except NVN is very much pre 4e. Even NVN 2 was built off the 3.5 rules if memory serves and was released 2005 or 2006, a couple of years before D&D 4e came out. The only D&D game Atari published during the 4e era was Daggerdale. the shitty Neverwinter game came after Hasbro got the license back.

@@mustangmckraken1150 "how good DnD Online was" it's still good! Haha

To clarify, I own the CD

It's not nearly the worst lol, the internet inflates it a lot. It's pretty mediocre though when you compare it to games like Neverwinter Nights and the Darksun SSI games.

On Console (Xbox 360) it actually did well (or as well as can be expected)

Same tbh me and my bestfriend played this alot haha

@@mustangmckraken1150 hard to compare many dnd games against NwN.

Yeah I remember playing this years ago and thought it was ok, so I was kind of surprised to see this video. I may have even played it twice, but damn was it a long time ago now, over ten years I think.

False, there is an additi BLLLLLAAAAUGGGHHH!!!

@@DerRotSpassvogel 😀

You get a sub wizards gotta stick together and if you ever need a expert in necromancey email me

Thank you so much! Quality comes from a year of content creation in obscurity, haha

It was a controversial statement, according to my comments section haha

@@WilliamSRD Fitting like a tee for a *decidedly* controversial edition, I should think.

I had some fun with 4th. The campaign booklets were some of my favorites. Honestly, I think the only reason 4e failed was because it followed 3.5. There was SO much complexity in 3.5 (with basically every book adding new rules/spells/classes), and it really did have to get trimmed down to bring in newer players looking for an easy system to play. If 5e had followed 3.5, I think it would have been just as reviled as 4e.

@@marcush4741 (X) DOUBT

​@marcush4741 4e released half-cocked because it was meant for a VTT that was scrapped after the developer was murdered

It's called fashion, Crowe. LOOK IT UP

'Noble adventurer' -> 'mercanary whackjob whose in it for the violence, the gold is a side benefit'

You're the best!

@@WilliamSRD Wow thanks :D Hey, since you like that post so much, are you interested in looking at some RPG supplements? :P

@@rpgcraftsman520 Sure! @ me with them on Twitter and I'll happily take a look! Can't guarantee I can cover them on the channel though, since I sort of move where the algorithm is giving me traction on any given week, and right now it's video games and 40k roleplaying stuff

Look on reddit, games events, board game shops, etc around your area. You will find people to play with !

@@kuhaku9587 don't worry, mate. I have been able to play D&D since this time. I have been part of 2 campaigns, and currently running my own stuff for 2 different groups. I was even able to branch out to different systems like Call of Cthulhu and Stars Without Number. D&D 5e may have its drawbacks, but it really was the best system to get people into Table Top RPGs.

Just goes to show that you can work really hard and be passionate about something and itstill turns out to be be a pile of garbage anyways.

That was the general state of the PC scene at the time. For about ten years unless it was an MMO, the PC version was always an AWFUL port. I had to learn to edit coding files just to get some AAA games to run back in the day. It was hell.

This has been a surprisingly universal experience!

Well, there's more coming now that I see that I like making 'em and the internet likes watching 'em!

@@WilliamSRD I guess that you must know them by now, but the Divinity 2 series has a really cool DND thing going on... and the old Kotor games have a DND system of sorts. You might want to check them out.

Do you mean Ruins of Myth Drannor? Attack was the module for tabletop, but they used the same art.

@@honorableintent yeah. same one.

Run_Underpressure.exe

I have a working theory that EVERYONE played this game, and we've just collectively forgotten due to some unknown trauma

@@WilliamSRD Absolutely true. Because I was just watching your video out of curiosity and then as soon as I saw the heroes all of my repressed memories just came back to me 🤣

@@WilliamSRD there's a spell woven into the code/user interface of the game that erases the memories of anyone who plays it

Tragically the dissipated, alcoholic one of the trio too.

D&D isn't a "series" ya know, it's a _system_ with like roughly bajillion and half settings. Also over four decades old so both the mechanics and the assorted lores have been overhauled (or in the latter case blatantly and usually arbitrarily retconned) many times over - it's on its freaking 5th edition now. (4th ed was particularly, uh, 'launched to mixed receptions' because lmfao tabletop WoW p much)

So Rezlus is a Lawful Based Warlock?

You're nuts. They were awesome. D&D converted directly to the PC. Now maybe they don't survive the test of time, but... No.

Its near the Moonsea and the forest of Cormanthor. Pretty darn close to Eliminster's home of Shadowdale.

There is local co-op in the game, meaning you can play it with someone else on the same machine... Then there is "Steam Remote Play" which allows your friends to join your local game that you would stream to them.

Yep! I can't find much about it other than that it came out just after Daggerdale. I assume it was similarly abandoned on launch, and since it didn't have the name 'Dungeons and Dragons' to trickle in sales over the years, Atari probably took it down from stores.

@@WilliamSRD Sadge. Damn. A Gamma World sounds good now. Except... you know... Done well by people who know what they are doing. Oh great video btw!