I put a PC inside a PC (It’s actually GOOD!)

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Timestamps:
0:00 that isn't a graphics card
0:33 Sponsor - War Thunder
2:06 what is this weird PC?
4:07 My whacky idea
4:56 Putting a PC inside a PC
6:51 Noise and sleep issue
7:33 Cinebench R23, system power, and thermals
9:44 Installing Proxmox
10:12 Jellyfin and HWA Transcoding
10:35 Home Assistant VM and Minecraft attempt
11:12 Remote Access with AMT
12:17 Does this even make sense?

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@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Play War Thunder now with my link, and get a massive, free bonus pack including vehicles, boosters, and more: playwt.link/hardwarehaven
@Sir_pancakes_
@Sir_pancakes_ 2 ай бұрын
you should use prism launcher for minecraft
@pcislocked
@pcislocked Ай бұрын
wt is p2w btw
@the_block-99
@the_block-99 Ай бұрын
could i use a video capture card to see the interface for this on my main pc?
@purplemaddox
@purplemaddox Ай бұрын
Don't take my life plz
@wvh-pups
@wvh-pups Ай бұрын
@@Sir_pancakes_modrinth better
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 ай бұрын
Ahh, serverception. I love it! Now we need a PCIe card that has four slots for SoMs, so you can put four home servers in your home server!
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 2 ай бұрын
Well, you could use some sort of PCIe x16 female/female adapter and connect another NUC to that and repeat for the amount of NUCs you want? But then...wouldn't you technically be having a bunch of blade servers in a different format?
@afaulconbridge
@afaulconbridge 2 ай бұрын
NUC on a Pi?
@HerrFreese
@HerrFreese 2 ай бұрын
Also create a hypervisor on that virtualizing some home servers, virtualizing some home servers hosting containers... 😂
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 2 ай бұрын
I wish this card had a pcie expansion slot.
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 2 ай бұрын
Looks like this is the same Jeff that left a glowing review on a connector on Amazon
@alexander0the0gray
@alexander0the0gray 2 ай бұрын
“Yo Dawg, I heard you like computers - so I put a computer in yo computer!”
@MrJhwan
@MrJhwan 2 ай бұрын
Beat me to the joke
@fionasherleen
@fionasherleen 2 ай бұрын
So you can computer while you computer 😎
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 Ай бұрын
Sun Microsystems has been doing this since they released the Penguin.
@cooperised
@cooperised Ай бұрын
Jeff Geerling beat him to it with a thumbnail featuring this meme
@Paranoia8972
@Paranoia8972 2 ай бұрын
PCIe you say? Sounds like I can plug it into my ZimaBlade 😂
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Oh jeez that would be hilarious
@mickgrimes9078
@mickgrimes9078 2 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same thing! lol
@GsrItalia
@GsrItalia 2 ай бұрын
@@HardwareHaven a tinkerer guy says to Inception "hold my fan"...
@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit
@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit 2 ай бұрын
My first thought...
@Nick-rs5if
@Nick-rs5if Ай бұрын
Oh God that would be sooo funny if it works! 😂
@arubberroomwithrats
@arubberroomwithrats 2 ай бұрын
kinda wish the pcie slot could be used for direct communication between both computers, almost like an accelerator card
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
True...
@Minecraft_rt
@Minecraft_rt 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@arubberroomwithrats
@arubberroomwithrats 2 ай бұрын
@@HardwareHaven it would be similar to the scrapped Project Larabee in a way, where the card could also execute x86 instructions in a graphics card-like form factor
@Phil-D83
@Phil-D83 2 ай бұрын
Intel and amd would have a heart attack. They want to overcharge business and not give them any outs. The arm chip makers might allow for that.
@kienanvella
@kienanvella 2 ай бұрын
You could do it, with a pcie switch set up as a non-transparent bridge. The Linux kernel makes use of this natively for some kinds of NTB, forming virtual network and serial links between machines. The cost of that NTB chip however is quite significant.
@Saphykitten
@Saphykitten 2 ай бұрын
Immediately checks amazon/ebay/etc and sees $250+
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC Ай бұрын
Yeah, you can get a Minisforum MC560 with a Ryzen 5 5625U on Newegg right now for 255. Not a perfect mini PC.. but still makes more sense than spending $250 on a PCI card Computer that still needs power from another source that can't sleep.
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx 2 ай бұрын
this would be a lot cooler if the pcie slot actually served a purpose
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
It TECHNICALLY does provide 3.3V, 5V and 12V to the motherboard... but yeah it would be awesome if there was more to it.
@5467nick
@5467nick 2 ай бұрын
It might be usable by using two PCIe slot adapters with a PCIe data cable between them.
@murylocordeiro
@murylocordeiro Ай бұрын
@@HardwareHaven I didn't get why do you used the top slot (direct conected to the CPU)of the MB if you needed to cover the data pins. I know that in the actual configuration it doesn't matter, but you could have saved it for a future project whith a GPU, or a 10Gb optical nic, etc... IDK, it simply looked wrong to me to damage the case there.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven Ай бұрын
@@murylocordeiro There's a big difference between a project that will get used vs a project that gets torn down after I finish filming. Honestly, I put it in the top slot because it looked better and would look more like a GPU in the thumbnail and B-Roll lol. As far as the case, I plan to clean up the cuts before my next video on it, and I don't think losing just one of of those cross bars will affect the structure in any meaningful way.
@smorrow
@smorrow Ай бұрын
Yeah, disappointed to find out (early in the video, at least) that it isn't something like the SunPCi
@electrothecat
@electrothecat Ай бұрын
This extra computer concept is exactly how your GPU actually works, it's essentially another computer built for a specific purpose, that interfaces through a high-speed low-latency pc bus. The only reason it doesn't have on-board storage atm, is bc the architecture is not designed to compress/decompress files or do other general tasks like the CPU can, therefore limiting what it can accomplish in the pc realm. The card shown in the video can be used to interface with your main for two reasons: 1: If the card's firmware is updated/jailbroken to act as a slave device, rather than a master device when it came out of the factory floor. 2: Intel provides drivers for the use of the card on a main machine so that it can interface and provide the main with certain functions/the ability to perform tasks on the card without incompatibilities/technical issues. Or a github repo is provided to provide drivers to use this card as a slave device to the main machine. It's interesting the level of detail provided in the video on the usefulness of this card in a main rig, and the stuff u could do with it in this use case. But i just wanted to post my take on this and what i can think of what could help expand the usefulness of this outdated tech.
@Leg0z
@Leg0z 2 ай бұрын
While this might seem odd, it's actually a very old concept. Orange Micro, a now defunct hardware company, used to make similar cards in the early 90's for Macs as a way for them to run Windows. It was before Hypervisors were a thing.
@oldschooldude8370
@oldschooldude8370 Ай бұрын
Sun micro also did the same with Solaris.
@noth606
@noth606 Ай бұрын
Several companies did this sorta thing for various platforms, I had a Mac Quadra something with a 486dx2-50 on a card in it back in the day, quite useful actually since I had limited space living in a small 1 room appartment of sorts, so I just had one monitor, mouse and keyboard, but separate PC and Mac computers combined into one thing. Hypervisors have absolutely nothing to do with it, LPAR was very much a thing. However, what it did was allow two completely different hardware architectures to coexist inside one physical computer and also exchange files to a degree, I no longer remember exactly how it worked but it was a thing. LPAR is splitting a computer system into more separate "slices" that can run separate instances of the OS to a configurable degree, without needing actually separate hardware to run the "slice" on, pretty much exactly what a bunch of people are very exited about these days as if it is a new thing, lol. The difference now is that you can do it on consumer level hardware, that's it - and that is due to address translation being supported in newer CPU's, which is a _must_ to run so called VM's which are simply a softer form of an LPAR in most ways. Edit: Realized this may not ring bells to people younger than me, LPAR is a logical partition, this has been a thing with larger computer systems for quite some time, I don't recall off the top of my head who did it first but I'm talking about stuff that was done on "professional server/large systems", so not x86, 68k, Amiga etc pedestrian overgrown pocket calculators, which in many ways is what they were back in the 80's and before, and to a degree still most of the 90's. I mean "big iron" computers, 32 and 64bit systems when most people at home had things like C64, Atari or if they were a bit more die-hard they had some Mac, PC or if they were cool an Amiga 😁
@oldschooldude8370
@oldschooldude8370 Ай бұрын
@noth606 Youre a bit long in the tooth. I don't think 95% of the viewers are older than 30. Thanks for the read. I'm guessing you're well into your 50s.
@Leg0z
@Leg0z Ай бұрын
@@oldschooldude8370 nope. 44. My friend had one of these cards when we were 12.
@noth606
@noth606 Ай бұрын
@@oldschooldude8370 I'm 48 but I had my first computer when I was 7, a VIC-20. I was playing with "big iron" from when I was 15-16 helping at a uni computer club and got a PDP-11/23 and a VAX, SUN machines etc around then, progressed to SGI ONYX RE2 then various Octanes, IBM RS/6000 various including SAN setups, on to LPAR then VMWare when they first came. But the writing was on the proverbial wall, so I changed to software development full time targeting ASP then .NET but am retired now. Still futz around though, on my own stuff. But it's fun to see the stuff from the big iron stuff in the 80s and 90s come back as 'new' on PC servers, mostly because it is old ideas but perfected, given a new name and new clothes and then sold as brand new innovation lol. It IS better, but the improvements are on the usability and "packaging" side of things more than the core fundamentals. And that you can run the stuff on a modern laptop if you like, you no longer need cubic meters of computer in a temp controlled room.
@jumpmaster5279
@jumpmaster5279 2 ай бұрын
can't complain much but, seems like a great idea. this is like inception a dream within a dream
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
lol I should've found a way to make an inception reference. Wasted opportunity...
@Chris-rm1pn
@Chris-rm1pn 2 ай бұрын
It would be nice if you could somehow get the PCs talking through PCIe
@XeonProductions
@XeonProductions 2 ай бұрын
I guess you could say that PC is physically containerized. Yo dawg, I heard you like servers, so we put a server in your server so you can host while you host. When I first saw the thumbnail I thought maybe this would be over one of those Xeon Phi coprocessors that got discontinued.
@heybravo23
@heybravo23 2 ай бұрын
X TO THE Z!
@pcislocked
@pcislocked 2 ай бұрын
7:11 that completely breaks the use case I imagined - a low-power system living inside a higher power server, acting as some sort of proxy with access to some storage, running some applications and only waking up the higher-power system if needed. for example it would serve the plex just fine but would call for the main system if higher transcode capacity is needed etc.
@benjiro8793
@benjiro8793 2 ай бұрын
Install it in a DAS, that hosts a empty MB for PCIe power?
@pcislocked
@pcislocked Ай бұрын
@@benjiro8793 that might do it yeah
@kbhasi
@kbhasi Ай бұрын
It could probably be sidestepped by using a separate power supply, but then that defeats certain use cases because there'd be an obvious PSU sticking outside of the case with cables running inside and/or the side door would be removed, sort of like what I had to do with my NAS where I have a separate PSU powering the storage devices because the 1U PSU in the case couldn't provide enough power without drives randomly disconnecting and reconnecting in Linux.
@corombb
@corombb Ай бұрын
Phanteks makes some dual system power supplies that let each system sleep independently. You might have to tinker to get it working 100% properly with a "system" that lacks a 24-pin connector, but I can't imagine it's impossible.
@christophernugent8492
@christophernugent8492 Ай бұрын
@@kbhasithere exist cases that have 2 power supply slots.
@dravokivich
@dravokivich 2 ай бұрын
Who needs hypervisors when you can spin up a local device....
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Haha i felt weird saying "host machine" in a physical sense
@granttaylor8179
@granttaylor8179 Ай бұрын
The NUC 9 Extreme I have uses the i7-9750H. It is a 6 core 12 thread running at 2.6Ghz with a Turbo of 4.5Ghz. It is a great little home server with support for 3 M. 2 NVMe drives. The daughter board can support 128GB of RAM and has 2 M.2 slots. The Pro daughter board version comes with Xeon processors while the Exteme version comes with i5, i7 or i9 core processor. The i7 is the 9750H.
@coolraul07
@coolraul07 2 ай бұрын
Cue all the "yo dawg i hear you like to..." memes from "Pimp My Ride". Maybe you can get Xzibit to cameo in your next video.
@itsnotyourfaultboy
@itsnotyourfaultboy 2 ай бұрын
The trying to detect country thing is a bug that happened on different installs on different hardware. So it's not a problem of the PCIE Nuc :) The fix is always just unplugging the network cable
@danielfernandezaguirre
@danielfernandezaguirre 2 ай бұрын
man i almost wanna buy this just to have people come and ask i have double gpus and tell them no, i have double PCs
@charlesdoesmore5488
@charlesdoesmore5488 2 ай бұрын
A pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a pc within a p- Wait, why is there an AMD PC in here!? 11:03 - This is your sign to use another Minecraft launcher. I personally use Prism Launcher.
@PyroBlank
@PyroBlank 2 ай бұрын
I guess I prefer MultiMC due to customisation.
@skatcat743
@skatcat743 2 ай бұрын
@@PyroBlank they are literally the same, but I prefer prism as you can get it as flatpak.
@charlesdoesmore5488
@charlesdoesmore5488 2 ай бұрын
​@@PyroBlankI originally use MultiMC as well!
@timothyt.82
@timothyt.82 27 күн бұрын
The concept of having an auxiliary/secondary processing unit is something I have been contemplating. If we could set the device to act as a slave processor instead of an individual computer, then you might be able to increase your computational workload. A GPU is basically a specialized computer designed to process objects on your screen. The key difference here, though, is that now you have a general purpose processor that can be assigned tasks while your primary CPU is occupied. Say you have a game running. Both the CPUs can share the workload of computing what's happening, relieving stress from your main chip. But then, you suddenly remember that you also need to render your video, or compile that code you have to push out. Not to worry, the main CPU can take over processing the game while the auxiliary CPU starts computing the other job. You experience no throttling, and you can effectively multitask. And if you have a system like the NUC, you also have additional RAM to pull from instead of having to share from a pool. It isolates the data and keeps the jobs separate to ensure they don't bog each other down. Throw in storage, and now your auxiliary system can operate as a completely isolated system if need be, while also under the direct control of the main board. Its like having a botnet, but without the networking (technically). Imagine the two systems doing cloud computing internally within the same system, accelerating your overall performance, having redundant systems that you can rely on (monitors tend to have two or more ports, so why not use them?), and even opening a way to have two users safely access the same drive, at the same time? Why wouldn't you want this upgrade?
@lzcpg
@lzcpg 2 ай бұрын
You should take a look at DPUs too for similar usecases, though they tend to be very much data center oriented.
@rahulchandra152
@rahulchandra152 2 ай бұрын
Hey great to see that you did a video on it! I've been using it for a couple months now and it's amazing!
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 2 ай бұрын
I have a couple of Seasonic PSUs and they have the same PSU side plug for EPS and PCIE so adding more EPS is a snap. This would be real interesting to put several in mining rig.
@variable_0
@variable_0 2 ай бұрын
That proxmox installation issue "trying to detect country..." is a proxmox thing I think. Had that
@TheQuickSilver101
@TheQuickSilver101 2 ай бұрын
This looks like a great option for conserving space. Thank you for reminding me that this exists and for showing us how versatile it can be!
@mortengreenhermansen4489
@mortengreenhermansen4489 2 ай бұрын
And most important- ECC support! 😊
@patrickprucha5522
@patrickprucha5522 Ай бұрын
Very nice idea. I wished i knew this when i had my desktop. I had always been thinking that the box could use another computer to manage other things. I liked the idea. Now i have a solution if i go down that path again.
@RetroBerner
@RetroBerner Ай бұрын
Looks like the NUC has a USB-C header you could route to your front panel too, not a bad idea
@EldritchInc
@EldritchInc Ай бұрын
This plugged into a Zimaboard based NAS would be a hell of a portable lab 🤔
@cheeseisgreat24
@cheeseisgreat24 2 ай бұрын
“What is this, a server for ants?”
@fierce134
@fierce134 2 ай бұрын
The Amazon review wasn't from Jeff, it was from "other" Jeff, per Craft Computing 😂
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 ай бұрын
🤔
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg 2 ай бұрын
Does that mean Red Shirt Jeff is other other Jeff?
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 2 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling The people have spoken.
@zanderfaehrteisenbah
@zanderfaehrteisenbah 2 ай бұрын
😂😂 Jeffception happening here
@aciamage
@aciamage Ай бұрын
Why all these pins if you need to tape them?
@antnate578
@antnate578 Ай бұрын
no, that isn’t a GPU, it’s a PCU
@daspec
@daspec Ай бұрын
Its an Alien parasite! Once it hatches little PC eggs, it burst through your host server's case and start running inside the room! 😱😂
@shephusted2714
@shephusted2714 2 ай бұрын
the dark rock case looks like a real winner - so much hdd space
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
She's a beauty! I'm excited to make a video on it.
@JMark4
@JMark4 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next video regarding this case. Looks pretty solid. I’m just curious if those fans are good enough to move air through the drive bays.
@phucnguyen0110
@phucnguyen0110 2 ай бұрын
Cool idea and video, Colten! This is actually a very interesting use case.
@shruggiexo
@shruggiexo 2 ай бұрын
your videos always help with this late pc lab session, never change ur schedule!!... or at least for 1 final week lol
@TheTolsonator
@TheTolsonator 2 ай бұрын
Yoooooo I haven't seen a cryorig cooler in YEARS
@sivadfa
@sivadfa 2 ай бұрын
What I'd like to see is some sort of firmware where you could enable it to act as a PCI-e device instead of host. That would be useful to use to talk back to the host for various things directly.
@corombb
@corombb Ай бұрын
Especially given the lack of 2.5/10Gbe. There are some M.2 2.5Gbe Ethernet adapters so creating a higher speed link to the system isn't impossible, but at a certain point I feel like you'd be better off running a Phanteks P600s or other dual system case and running two full PCs, each with full PCIe x16 expansion
@Francois_L_7933
@Francois_L_7933 2 ай бұрын
You really need to get a Dremel with a cutoff wheel for modifying those cases. They don't make sharp edges like tin snips do.
@CorwinPatrick
@CorwinPatrick 2 ай бұрын
But the do spit metal shavings all over the place...
@Ali-Bee
@Ali-Bee 2 ай бұрын
Snips create a LOT less metal dust though. I suspect he didn't feel like totally dismantling the PC to protect components from metal dust when 10 seconds of snipping would be just as effective (just less pretty...)
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
There's a big difference between a project that I plan to keep and a project that I teardown the week after I publish the video, lol
@grislyboar3396
@grislyboar3396 Ай бұрын
One thing I didn't see mentioned in this video (I could have missed it so if I did, ignore this) is that single board PCs that you put in expansion slots is not by any means a new concept. It was more common for business / server network use in the 80s and 90s, but there were specific cards that were essentially single-board PCs with older for the sake of basically having support for older DOS applications that required a slower processor like an 8088 or a 486 depending on the use case and the hardware the card was made to work with. Since backwards compatibility is the name of the game in large-scale business computing, I imagine it was super useful having the actual hardware necessary to run some old but specifically necessary programs for certain tasks. DOS emulation and VMs weren't exactly as much of a thing during that period, so it made sense to basically slap a whole other PC into an ISA/PCI slot and use that instead. I could be misremembering, but I recall seeing a showcase of a card for the Apple II that was basically made for running programs for different 8-bit computers on it.
@oscarcharliezulu
@oscarcharliezulu Ай бұрын
It seems like a really cool system. Max homelab kudos pts this one .
@GrizzLeeAdams
@GrizzLeeAdams Ай бұрын
I'm glad you actually taped off the PCIe bus. I've seen people do this with the skulltrail nuc board and almost none of them taped off the PCIe bus.
@greenprotag
@greenprotag Ай бұрын
Fun video and definitely worth a look. If these were "purpose built" to do this (which they ALMOST are) I feel like it would be more viable. If there was more "interface" between the main system and the "Daughter" system such as KVM passthrough or at least some monitoring and controls I feel like it would be excellent. However with the lack of interface and the cost OFTEN not being cheap, a smaller nuc PC, and old optiplex with a cheap quadro or ARC card, OR a custom ITX build would all make more sense as a dedicated streaming PC or Low power home server.
@amagiccarpetgaming5352
@amagiccarpetgaming5352 Ай бұрын
love the concept, one like this with a dummy bracket to plug in the pcie slot but run off of the an 8 pin pcie directly would be awesome!
@articdev
@articdev Ай бұрын
Brownies Recipe Ingredients:  140 grams of chocolade  4 eggs  300 grams of sugar  120 grams of flour  250 grams of butter Preparation: 1) Preheat the oven to 160 °C. 2) Beat the eggs with the sugar. Do this using a mixer. 3) Melt the chocolate with the butter. 4) Mix the egg mixture with the melted chocolate butter. 5) Mix in the flour. 6) Bake for 35 minutes in small in a large low mould.
@billyhart3299
@billyhart3299 2 ай бұрын
I have waited *such* a long time for something like this.
@Mrhorribubble
@Mrhorribubble 2 ай бұрын
cool use case would be putting it inside your main pc and then connecting all your drives to that instead of the main pc and making that the nas. that way you have no issues when changing os's or when windows updates decide to brick your pc.
@n.stephan9848
@n.stephan9848 29 күн бұрын
I've had this exact same idea as well. Originally I was searching for a hardware RAID card capable of doing raid 5 or 6, since that would be the only solution that would work on a multi os system. I something like this pc card just appeared as a network card to the host pc, communication would also be taken care of.
@mmu20046f03
@mmu20046f03 2 ай бұрын
with this price point thats really cool good to know this is even an option
@nickwort123
@nickwort123 2 ай бұрын
Yo dawg, I heard you like home servers so we put a home server in your home server so you can home server while you home server
@brandonlight621
@brandonlight621 2 ай бұрын
beat me to it
@DrDipsh1t
@DrDipsh1t 2 ай бұрын
Since you're covering most of the pins, think this could work with one of the mining risers and stick it in a x1 slot? That way can use the other x16 slots for "real" cards and have the nuc in a box card too!
@5467nick
@5467nick 2 ай бұрын
You wouldn't need to plug it into any of the motherboard's PCIe slots if you're using a mining adapter. This device is only using the PCIe slot to supply power in this use case. That's why he taped over the data pins in the video.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Ай бұрын
This is actually a really smart, you can use this as a gateway and external services host for your main rig. A kind of integrated "networking condom" as a turn of phrase, and still have it supply other things like as mentioned, game servers. In my case I'd probably use it to host my usual private servers, because I'm the kind of pseudo-antisocial weirdo that enjoys playing MMOs solo, but MMO private server software tends to dislike running on the same OS as the client connecting to it (something latency compensation related? Iunno.)
@joshhardin666
@joshhardin666 Ай бұрын
you could use that hardware passthrough to pass through the igpu (or more preferably the virtual feature (vf) of the igpu) in order to do stuff like plex transcoding or run hardware acclerated remote desktop in a vm.
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 Ай бұрын
Quite interesting PC I must say! Dunno how practical, but yeah, pretty cool! :D Thanks for the video!
@christophernugent8492
@christophernugent8492 Ай бұрын
I wonder if you could get networking working over PCIe. That would enable you to use these to build compute clusters. It would be nice to get more cores for a VM server by just throwing in a couple of these.
@Houl777
@Houl777 Ай бұрын
Same module but with i7 has been in use for 2 years. Works well. The main thing is that the "mother" system always supplies power to it 3.3. Fast reboots or other things that can interrupt power should be banned. Additionaly all NUC9 modules support SATA drives. You just need to buy simple connector. And because I have only one pci-e there is no need to use capton tape.
@SgtStarSlayer
@SgtStarSlayer Ай бұрын
imagine it can be hooked up with a 2 way sli bridge to a second one and alongside with a dedicated gpu to the motherboard pcie slot.
@samuelsaady9909
@samuelsaady9909 26 күн бұрын
Haha, this reminds me of the nubus accelerator boards used on the old Macs where they were literally another Mac on a nubus card, they were mainly for running multiple processors back when cpus only had one core.
@Hartley94
@Hartley94 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for anaother insight.
@LeonisYT
@LeonisYT 2 ай бұрын
10:40 you can pass through an extra nvme as well since there are 2.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
true!
@phizaal
@phizaal 2 ай бұрын
Just a heads up, the link for 'T Tech' is missing from the desc. Loving the vid so far :)
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Fixed!
@Altirix_
@Altirix_ Ай бұрын
oh wow, pretty killer as a diy budget compute blade setup tiny hpc high availability
@eyesonlywrx1080
@eyesonlywrx1080 2 ай бұрын
I would like to see an army of these installed on a mining rig case since you can just not plug the riser into a host system but still supply power.
@chadmasta5
@chadmasta5 Ай бұрын
I never knew about these things a few years ago. It's like a modern evolution of those 486 or pentium sbc's that slotted into a pci or Isa backplane.
@StarFox1988
@StarFox1988 2 ай бұрын
now that I see this.. this sparks some ideas for density. fractal design case, mini IT board for TrueNAS, and populate the rest of the slots with these. services for daaaaaayyys
@Agnemons
@Agnemons 17 сағат бұрын
So it could be setup as a very basic DIY blade system if you could find a host mobo with the necessary slots you could add multiple ones.
@zechsoner
@zechsoner 2 ай бұрын
I've literally been studying this for a decade .........they can make mobos like this
@init_yeah
@init_yeah 5 күн бұрын
You can change in device manager and force devices not to cut power when sleeping, I imagine that would fix it.
@angelsgti7
@angelsgti7 4 күн бұрын
Imagine your friend coming to your place and you wanna play zombies with them on 2 seperate pcs and he's asking for your second pc to play with you and you just tell him it's inside of your current system. I would be so lost.
@Tuntira
@Tuntira Ай бұрын
Quick question, why don't you like running services on your NAS?
@404edding
@404edding 5 күн бұрын
This reminds me of the Intel Xeon Phi: An accelator card with its own operating system. You plugged it into another PC and then you could SSH into it from the host system. No PCIe pin hacks required :)
@granttaylor8179
@granttaylor8179 Ай бұрын
I picked up the i7 BC are bones version of NUC 9 Extreme a few years ago for £480. I installed 64GB of RAM and a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO and I run it as a Home Server with Windows Server 2022 Data center. After I got it the price went back up to £950.
@thezfunk
@thezfunk 2 ай бұрын
You should do a video on mapping a network drive so that Jellyfin can pull files from it. You have to mount the drives in the host OS and that isn't explained anywhere very well.
@Kalphalus
@Kalphalus Ай бұрын
My Minecraft Launchers (Both the MS Store one and the older Installer one) broke a while ago, so I started using 3rd party launchers, and now use Prisim Launcher
@johnchilds6471
@johnchilds6471 Ай бұрын
Amiga 2000 with a 286 bridgeboard did this many years ago
@TryPr0x
@TryPr0x 2 ай бұрын
New video! love these videos!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@longbottle
@longbottle Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the "X86 system on a PCI card" that used to be somewhat popular in the PPC Mac days.
@stevetheborg
@stevetheborg Ай бұрын
that is the perfect for my Project Zemie
@yensteel
@yensteel 2 ай бұрын
If you got 2 Nr200p cases like Linus did, you can complete a 1 case, 4 pcs build!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
I considered getting one of those little HDMI plug PCs or something just to go 3 deep haha
@user-fx5mc6bi4e
@user-fx5mc6bi4e 2 ай бұрын
since you're not using the host pcie lanes why not use the other pcie slot which has less lanes or slower. you will end up cutting both bars on the long run... think twice cut once. personally I would have used a 1x slot or a pcie extender and mounted it to the vertical slot pcie slot in your particular case.
@eric4903
@eric4903 2 ай бұрын
Probably defaults to x8 for both PCIe slots when 2 cards inserted anyway.
@user-fx5mc6bi4e
@user-fx5mc6bi4e Ай бұрын
@@eric4903 it doesn't work like that for the 1st slot. on atx boards with 3 slots the last 16x will auto switch from 4x or whatever to 2x2x or 1x1x1x1x when other 1x slots are used.
@user-fx5mc6bi4e
@user-fx5mc6bi4e Ай бұрын
@@eric4903 that's bifurcation and you either need a pcie bifurcation board and set it in bios - if you plan on using multiple pcie cards on the same slot OR use a pcie device that suports bifurcation natively asus hyperx comes to mind from 16x slot to 4x nvme
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix Ай бұрын
Ayo configure your Windows host to run a fake service that checks the livelyhood of the "guest" and properly terminate the service - which sends a shutdown command through ADT - when powering off and you can possibly "dual boot" xD This is super neat! Wish there was an ARM variant simply for the power draw, but this is super awesome!
@henderstech
@henderstech Ай бұрын
I really really like the Nas idea. I will most likley do this some day.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын
Worth the money
@chetanvmalhotra
@chetanvmalhotra Ай бұрын
you didn't have to cut your case btw, just could've used the thunderbolt/type c to hdmi adaptor
@SmaugMedia
@SmaugMedia 18 күн бұрын
i wish intel was still making NUC extremes those were so under rated such a cool PC
@acenio654
@acenio654 2 ай бұрын
Hey, you forgot to link the install scripts in the description
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
AH THANKS! I knew I was missing somethinf
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Fixed!
@alexrook5604
@alexrook5604 Ай бұрын
I'm upvoting this because I support your whacky idea.
@JMassengill
@JMassengill 2 ай бұрын
Cool PC. Rather impressive
@kozekistudio
@kozekistudio 2 ай бұрын
ah yes a computer inside my computer that controls all my computers
@jono_church
@jono_church 2 ай бұрын
That’s pretty cool! I coumd picture it as a built in router/firewall so you could have everything in one machine?
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 ай бұрын
Ooh that seems scary... - says the guy running a router in a VM
@Myself-yh9rr
@Myself-yh9rr Ай бұрын
That guy Jeff is really good with computer stuff too.
@tylerdean980
@tylerdean980 Ай бұрын
Good way to add a Tor node to your NAS
@shawnmcelroy1829
@shawnmcelroy1829 2 ай бұрын
i feel like something like this could be nice for a print farm. with this as a hub of sorts for multiple printers. though i would want to get a cheaper model maybe in the $60-$100 range.
@the_block-99
@the_block-99 Ай бұрын
with some capture cards, 3 monitors , 2 of these , a good psu and a good main system this could be very useful for local multiplayer, almost like a console. oh and 3 minecraft accounts and something like essential mod
@amigochan
@amigochan Ай бұрын
I used to have a Apple DOS Compatible Card in my Quadra 700. It contains a 486 CPU and related components. :)
@commiewhacker6422
@commiewhacker6422 Ай бұрын
finally, seeing people make videos about these lil nucs in pcie form!
@gamerstewart1660
@gamerstewart1660 2 ай бұрын
I have a question, is it possible to use pcie pass through to use the 1st system's gpu on the nuc card
@cameramaker
@cameramaker Ай бұрын
It is a so missed opportunity to allow the NUC to operate in a PCIe-NT bridge mode, or in a device-mode. This way, one could make a pcie-pcie connection with the host.
@mercedes300gd
@mercedes300gd Ай бұрын
aaaah i been drooling over one of those for a loong time buty always so expensive. was so happy when i see you say 150 for it, then i go to see in the link and its 240 + tax + shipping +++ etc :/
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