I put PIANO Strings on a Piano also I have a question

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@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Ok so top suggestion is raising the front legs. I like that because I would like the option to make the piano flat again so it’s an optional tilt. The water will weight around 120kg and most of it will push on the back leg of the piano. So how about strenghening the back leg like this? imgur.com/a/R4RcEJF If I calculated correctly. The piano needs to be raised 10cm. It might not sound like a lot those 120kgs of water. But from touching this piano a lot I realised that it’s not a very heavy piano, I’d say it’s only 250kg so those 120 is quite a lot for a non enhanced third leg

@schmarcel4238 2 жыл бұрын

luckily my third leg is always enhanced 😏

@gregorygaines236 2 жыл бұрын

How about pulling the hardware off of a "Standing desk" like one from Ikea that can raise and lower. You would have to check the weight capacity, but that might be easier than designing a system from scratch

@The2x4 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good to me! (I'm an engineer)

@32rq 2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind the forces on that back leg if you do this. Not only total force, but you'll be introducing a torque which those legs were probably not designed for.

@cdahmke11 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same idea.

@spencer961 2 жыл бұрын

The piano’s legs are meant to hold in compression. 100 percent of the force is compressing the legs at 90° to the ground, but if you tilt the legs even a little bit, they need to be reinforced to handle a lateral load. Just a few degrees of tilt will make a rotational moment where the legs connect to the piano, and the more weight they hold the larger this problem becomes. Not to mention you’re gonna add a lot of weight in water. My recommendation would be to machine some angle offset spacers where you remount all three legs. The spacers ensure the legs sit flat on the ground and exactly vertical. This way you don’t have to worry about them snapping off.

@user-wr2uy9pj4m 2 жыл бұрын

Never thought I'd be surprised to see piano strings on piano in a title I love how it's looking so far, it looks fantastic! You really went all out for this one, that's huge! For the tilting, maybe you can make the two front legs higher instead of the back leg lower Even putting two wooden boxes underneath them would help

@MaeBlythe 2 жыл бұрын

Any advice I can think of has already been suggested, but oh man! I am so excited to see how this goes!

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

😻🤝

@eVVigilance 2 жыл бұрын

Car floor jack instead of third leg. Just put a strong plate on the bottom of the piano for it to push on. This allows you to easily raise and lower the piano to the desired perfect height. And should have no issues supporting the weight.

@davidmckinney6577 2 жыл бұрын

Hello 👋👋👋👋 good buddy Mattias that piano 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹 is looking good buddy I love the blue 💙 you are a very smart guy buddy much love ❤️ buddy from me and Arnold both🐕🙋

@kameljoe21 2 жыл бұрын

Mattias I would use a car jack. The type that screws up and down. you can fix a larger base to it and fix it to the top as well The top pivots a bit which will allow you to finely adjust the height and raise it up and down as you put water in it.

@camerondtrain 2 жыл бұрын

The easiest thing to do may be to block up the other two legs, rather than shortening the one. This could look like some small blocks, or a platform for both the back legs and the piano bench.

@PaulISKa561 2 жыл бұрын

You are doing a TITANIC work!

@thorsteinj 2 жыл бұрын

I have three suggestions: 1. Duplo-tier: Put the piano on a ski slope for kids (not too steep). 2. LEGO™-tier: Tilt your house, Biltema has 2T garage jacks that could do this (you know how many you need). 3. Engineer-tier: accelerate the piano to about 28500 km/h and pitch it to the desired angle before filling it with water.

@bobbyggare8364 2 жыл бұрын

I am very impressed by all the work that you have done.

@Nithor666 2 жыл бұрын

I would have the strings will not vibrate in the water to make the sound, you should have them resting just MM above the water so that way you still get the watery sound submerging strings will not get a sound. Also for adjusting the legs, if you use that metal brace you showed, and you put weight on it, that should stabilize it since it will add pressure to the structure. Gravity and weight would keep that from wobbling Can't wait for the final video to come out on this project and hear what it sounds like

@NikoDood 2 жыл бұрын

What if you cut off the legs entirely, and set it on a table that is rated to hold 400 kg. You could also cut some blocks of wood to the angle that you want the piano at, and then screw those pieces into the table. This way the piano would be tilted and the weight would be supported by vertical legs.

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

I’m reading some comments about lifting the front legs. That would be awesome. However the piano is very front heavy, and that back leg looks weak and wouldn’t it be even more comprimised in an angle plus the extra weight of the piano getting shifted back? Also don’t forget about the added weight of the water😳 I do have an engine lift btw (2 tones) maybe I can suspend the back of the piano? But I don’t like how visible that solution would be EDIT: i did a rough calculation, it will be around 100-120 liters of water and most of it at the back of the piano

@thieflack7132 2 жыл бұрын

What about some sort of Cinder blocks or bricks

@xoco.ozomatli 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda want to suggest to instead put it on an inclined surface, but I can't tell if that's better or worse

@Blazico 2 жыл бұрын

How about making the back leg stronger then without making it longer?

@Em-._.- 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely think you should reinforce that back leg, or like add two legs on either side of the back leg to make it a 5 legged piano. It would be so sad if you made this piano and filled it with water just for the back leg to collapse

@someonewithsomename 2 жыл бұрын

You definitely need new legs for the piano, regardless of the way you decide to tilt it. Added weight + tilt is a bad thing

@ingeliechtenfeld 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely stunning, what a teaser, I would love to see the result of this project of yours BADLY!!!!!!!

@isayawhaat1634 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe with tilting the piano you could make some sort of compartment that holds water at the end of the strings to keep the water in one spot and so you can have water at the end of all the strings ⬇️⬇️⬇️ how you might be able to do it is: if you make the back leg shorter so the piano is tilting and then underneath of the strings closer towards the bottom you can make a block that lines the entire piano following the strings and then another block above the strings to hold the water in

@John-pv7gk 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the motivation to finish this project? Your commitment is something bro!

@Zoli_ExhibitPrinting 2 жыл бұрын

If you went completely over the top and added an adjustable leg (think vehicle air shock) you could create waves. Then at least if the audio effect of the experiment was underwhelming you would have a some funny visual content. In fact waves could be created with out a ridiculous leg I guess. :-)

@kellerglee 2 жыл бұрын

How about you do whatever you need to do to support it properly, then use some long piano drape that reaches the floor so it looks cool and covers the atrocity underneath? Thinking outside the box haha

@mjmcomputers 2 жыл бұрын

The nylon fishing string seems fitting for piano strings on this one.

@aladarmezga4942 2 жыл бұрын

for the back leg: saw horses are pretty much like the two jack stands connected in the middle, there are ones made out of steel tubing

@cdahmke11 2 жыл бұрын

Depending on how sturdy that back leg is, you might want to add some safety precautions. If you raise up the front legs, the back leg would be at an angle(even if slight). Then you add water witch adds even more weight. I could see the back leg fail. Thoughts from a piano technician.

@danismynewname 2 жыл бұрын

If you end up propping up the front legs, it might be good to also angle the back leg so it doesn't add too much stress to the joint on the inside angle. you don't want it snapping.

@asif-mf8yl 2 жыл бұрын

Great Sir 👌😊

@gobbel2000 2 жыл бұрын

Just prop up the front legs. You still obviously need to support the back because that leg might not hold a water-filled piano when it's slanted. But with that you won't have to saw it off.

@Fraser142 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so stoked to see this come to life the only man insane enough to try this madness good luck sorry I don't have advice :)

@craftcrewtv8094 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful masterpiece

@Si-annMusic 2 жыл бұрын

you could use a car jack, or remove the legs entirely and have it suspended by cables from the celing!

@InventingThings 2 жыл бұрын

What about a scissor lift jack? It could be mounted on wood or something large to stabilize the bottom then raise and lower the jack at your will. Not sure of pressure ratings but some different kinds are used to hold up rvs. You also could buy a replacement leg for the piano and remove the height needed to lower the piano 15 degrees. Only issue I forsee with this is matching the stain.

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm scissor jack is interesting! Thanks!😻

@InventingThings 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasKrantzshorts You’re welcome =) best of luck!!

@lumunolumuno7501 2 жыл бұрын

You could use a piano stool to raise and lower the back of the piano!

@runristaren2 2 жыл бұрын

I’d use a adjustable leg or preferrable two in the back. Also i’d tilt them a bit to get the force as linear as possible. But first try without Tilling and see of you can get some cool shots of soundwaves hitting the water 👍

@SamLabbato 2 жыл бұрын

you might be able to put some sort of like jack or similar crank that you pump to adjust the height of the back, maybe even just simply having pre-determined rungs you manually lift the piano off of to lower or raise. as for the normal leg, unless you want to manually reinstall it each time, could be cool if it just folded out, then you had separate legs for lowering it down. You'd still probably have to manually lift the back of the piano though.

@loodusefilm7881 2 жыл бұрын

Split back leg and put large dowel inside to change leg tip with shorter. Or cut leg to desired length and make wooden block with hole inside to restore lenght of that leg if needed.

@qwopmob4 2 жыл бұрын

So new there's no thumbnail! Keep up the awesome content!

@chitogepansy1420 2 жыл бұрын

So excited for this

@xoco.ozomatli 2 жыл бұрын

You want to submerge the strings? Wouldn't the vibrations in the water cause the other strings to vibrate? Or would the water act as a dampener? Then the only sound you'd get would be a muffled, muted sound from the air above water? I did not study much physics haha If you plan to keep the water in there, maybe use actual pool (chlorinated) water so it doesn't grow bacteria or mold or other gross stuff

@thorsteinj 2 жыл бұрын

Vibrations on other strings (and the piano body itself) always happen, even through air. That's why there are dampers, and these are left in place on the strings not played. The string would have a harder time to vibrate because of the resistance of the water, but the vibrations that do translate into the liquid (water) would perhaps be more easily reflected in other strings? I just assume the dampeners would take care of that. However, the dynamics of the water might tend to the harmonics of the string, which would intuitively be more pronounced in the harmonics of other strings? I guess it also depends on the attack, maybe it would be very different depending on how hard you play? From an harmonics point of view it is just really interesting to figure out if any of the harmonics on the strings would be cancelled or amplified due to it being submerged. Maybe it would only affect some strings and ... will the timbre change, would it even sound like a piano? Will it sound partially like a piano? I have so many questions!

@CommunityGuidelines 2 жыл бұрын

Whatever you do to the legs, make sure they are physically attached to the piano. You don't want the piano to just be "sitting" on top of a surface, because if it slips off... you could be seriously injured by such a heavy object. Also it would probably crack the piano frame. Also you might die.

@Salsmachev 2 жыл бұрын

Prop the piano up on a couple of cinderblocks. Should be decently stable.

@43JohnDeere 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a hydraulic bottle jack attached to the factory piano leg attach point?

@painwithoutsuffering 2 жыл бұрын

I would suggest adding 2 more legs to the back of the piano, the only problem would be getting them to match the original leg. You could essentially just taper them, and give them a stain and top coat. Try to install them a way you can easily uninstall them when the piano is empty, to keep the original look. If all else fails just Google a local carpenter 😅

@mcgoojr 2 жыл бұрын

Do not add a fourth leg, the three-legged configuration guarantees a flat plane without rocking or wobble. Adding a fourth leg could introduce wobble during piano use.

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t think about that thanks for the warning!

@not_necessary_3 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mattias, ❤️ From India.( Actually I wanted to say Love from Me but I too want to say that I am from India 😅)

@Narutosonicrule1245 2 жыл бұрын

If you raise the front two legs, maybe you can add some kind of a brace to the back leg, or something similar, that way the pressure isn't on just a single leg, that or make a new leg that looks like the old leg but can hold more weight

@Ford_prefect_42 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe using car jacks? The water is going to make this thing weigh so much more that I'm concerned about those wooden legs

@christopherventer6391 2 жыл бұрын

I would replace all the legs with maybe 4 to 5 car jacks.

@theranchbandit6548 2 жыл бұрын

They make these supports braces for load bearing beams that are giant threads inside a tube matching it with plates at either end to distribute weight, maybe look at one of those or maybe make your own.

@t4iga121 2 жыл бұрын

2:00 that kinda Hertz ...

@isayawhaat1634 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@zsz0667 2 жыл бұрын

Adding other legs for more support seems good, also maybe putting a wider base under the legs, like if the leg is 5 cm wide, having a 20- 50 cm wide block under that leg could help lower the weight on said leg. So the leg sits above the block, and the block has a hole for the leg to interlock. I hope this makes sense hahaha you can even make the bottom of that block non slip by using a hot glue gun. Good luck

@mikeporter2126 2 жыл бұрын

What about a saw horse? You could block it to get more height. Or build one the height you need.

@andrenicolov4829 2 жыл бұрын

Look into 80-20 parts to make a rig to lift the piano, + maybe a raising/lowering system based on a car jack? Also is it possible to tilt the soundboard instead of the entire piano?

@sami3125 2 жыл бұрын

Take piano stool that is using big metal screw to raise and lower it. Then disassemble the stool and attach screw part to back leg which you must shorten. This makes piano tilt adjustable but it will also be visible.

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm interesting idea making the current leg adjustable. Thank you!

@MrSRMatthews 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@MrSRMatthews 2 жыл бұрын

Answer: dig a whole in the floor for the leg...

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao and thanks!

@Protospacer 2 жыл бұрын

Can you shorten the back leg from the top (where it connects to the piano) but add a scissor lift type mechanism? That way you could easily raise and lower the leg as needed.

@HKSkansei 2 жыл бұрын

I think what you're describing would be a scissor jack from a car. they are usually rated to hold around 1000kg of weight, so depending on the total weight of the piano, may be able to hold it easily.

@32rq 2 жыл бұрын

You tuned them in air?! Are you going to retune once it's underwater?

@atlas_of_prescottia 2 жыл бұрын

0:30 horrible video idea: I put string cheese on a piano

@thieflack7132 2 жыл бұрын

For the strings what happens if you glue them and make them ”water proof” idk it will probably change the sound. Or is there an alternative you can use thats water proof. Idk just throwing out ideas lol

@auronheimdall1072 2 жыл бұрын

Could you explain more in detail what you mean? I don't understand your idea ! Do you mean "Testing the strings underwater after putting hydrophobic spray on the chords" ? What do you want to glue ? I'm so confused

@manmanmanmanman831 2 жыл бұрын

Noice

@skrimper 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, you plan on submerging the strings?? Should just fill the paino with water until it almost touches the strings. Or better yet, try both!

@gooberznash 2 жыл бұрын

Very poggers

@lastnamefirstname8655 2 жыл бұрын

the craziest strings to go on a piano. also would there be a way to pass the water out of the piano so that little water would be inside the piano?

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

How do you mean? Like draining? Yes I have a little pump for that and a heat fan:)

@lastnamefirstname8655 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasKrantzshorts something like that, yes. something that could help balance the amount of water in the piano and out of the piano. i don't know physics, though, sorry.

@beauxguidry1085 2 жыл бұрын

Use car jack stands if you want to be able to put the leg back on

@hoonghoonghoong2252 2 жыл бұрын

Bro but can we play pool on it?

@longschlongsilver7628 2 жыл бұрын

I just got this in my recommendations. Not so secret now is it

@painwithoutsuffering 2 жыл бұрын

Brie is the piano of cheese Without a doubt

@KaffeMedBulla 2 жыл бұрын

I got a simply piano ad

@joselu90 2 жыл бұрын

New piano strings for putting they into water 🤔

@elliotmarks06 2 жыл бұрын

PLEASE CALL IT THE POOLANO!!!!!

@Dallemations 2 жыл бұрын

ill make a discord server for you just for this channel

@l4mb_ch0p 2 жыл бұрын

@CK-ceekay 2 жыл бұрын

couple of car jacks?

@MyAnno1404 2 жыл бұрын

Whats the Plan? Strings under water? Idk i think that would mess up the sound. Actuelly i think the effect would be intresting with only a little bit of water. Or other liquids like milk would also be funny. Oh and make sure the water tempature fits not that everything goes out of tune

@markmarketing7365 2 жыл бұрын

make hole in ground B)

@HeikoGrostuck 2 жыл бұрын

Is this actually water on the floor at 2:55? Your Piano maybe is not as waterproof as expected😎

@tomowens9994 2 жыл бұрын

You could use two car jacks?

@tomowens9994 2 жыл бұрын

Under each of the two front legs? They are relatively cheap and can raise 2-3 tonnes easy

@AverageThinking 2 жыл бұрын

Those dampers are gonna get damper very soon. I’ll see myself out

@crowmigration8245 2 жыл бұрын

It's supposed to be a secret guys

@rudehobby8984 2 жыл бұрын

Ikea har höjochsänk bara ben, i trä med två ben, kolla upp det!

@aku_mado 2 жыл бұрын

how about tilting all the strings instead of the whole piano

@aku_mado 2 жыл бұрын

it hurts me that the piano in tune tho

@32rq 2 жыл бұрын

You could make a folding leg like people do for workbenches (e.g. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9KCoLuWm6zHk2g.html). Then you could replace the leg but have two stable heights.

@juusoleinonen 2 жыл бұрын

sheese

@zadekharbat 2 жыл бұрын

No need for legs I say

@MattiasKrantzshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm that’s actually a very interesting approach

@Begeegee 2 жыл бұрын

I like this idea, it's quite outside the box but could be an interesting solution... 🤔

@imachickengirl 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of supporting it, you could hold it up with ropes, and use a pulley system to change the angle. But you'd have to have kind of a strong ceiling for that lol.