I Put Super Light Strings on My 7 String Guitar and This is What Happened
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Жыл бұрынI don't know I didn't do this as soon as I bought my 7-string guitar. And this one small change made a HUGUE difference and ignited my love for playing my 7-string.
Here's the thing. String gauge is a personal preference. There's no right or wrong or best. There's only what works best for you.
That said, I've always preferred lighter gauge strings. All of my 6-string guitars have super lights (Elixir Nanwebs, 9-42).
For some reason, I kept using 10s on my 7-string. I guess part of me thought that you needed bigger strings. But that's just not true. At least for me, it wasn't.
If you've been following me for a while (thank you), you know I've struggled with having a 7-string guitar. In fact, I've almost gotten rid of it several times.
Now that I have the super light strings, I'm really rediscovering my 7-string guitar.
Stay tuned for more!
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Jason
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@VanishedMediaOfficial Жыл бұрын
The difference is there. My theory is once you have a guitar set to your personal liking your playing will be more confident and consistent. That extra bit of comfort leads to better playability which equals to better playing leading into better tone. I rock 10s on my 7 string but I tune down a whole step. Morale of the story trust your gut and not what people tell you to do. Stay metal 🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
You nailed it...we have to go with what feels most natural and best for us! And I'm loving the 9s
@Scarlatamusic Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of switching to a lighter gage string on of my guitars too!! I think you officially convinced me it's time as well!!🤘
@JohnStuttgen Жыл бұрын
I use 9’s in D Standard with a 60mm pick. It’s more comfortable and I play better. I also haven’t noticed it being less heavy at all
@jeremiahglogg4100 Жыл бұрын
Dude that is so true. My main tuning is drop G and I use 11-54 & 74 gauges. They're real heavy gauges but I pick the strings very hard so it's comfortable for me. Anyone who asks what string gauge to use should simply experiment with different strings and gauges and find what's best for you.
@brians1793 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't make as much difference as people think in plugged tone or in the way people might think, you hear it more unplugged and feel it more in how the guitar resonates. But you mostly hear it in the difference it makes in how bends sound depending on the guitarists, you might be able to do some wide vibratos with a ton of control you can't do with higher gauge strings. But then guitarists like SRV can do crazy bends with his extra heavy strings, and Zakk Wylde needs more tension for optimal picking I'm guessing, not sure the exact reason. It pretty much just creates more tension and it depends on tuning and scale length, you mainly just don't want a floppy string, but a tighter string is most noticeable with harmonics as far as the difference it makes from what I hear in tone. I think scale length makes a bigger difference, even at the same tuning with the same tension, the scale length will still affect how it sounds like if you have an 8 string at 30" scale compared to a 27" that uses a heavier gauge for the same tension, it'll sound very different even if it's the same string brand, pickups, and everything else. You'll never get that 27" to sound like the 30".
@rurkovmj Жыл бұрын
Glad you are back Jason
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@the_campfire_official Жыл бұрын
I just recently set up my 8 String with a much thinner set and I couldn't be happier. My leads are sharper and my lows seem to still have enough balls to djent. As far as the full mixes they both sounded solid. The 9's almost sound crisper but it's not a HUGE difference. Love the video man! Keep it up!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I bet it's a lot easier on your hands, too! And those lighter strings on lower tunings help the bass guitar stand out so your mix is better.
@BranniganCarter Жыл бұрын
I looked at getting an E2 but settled on a Schecter Reaper for the multi scale. Can’t wait til it gets delivered. I’ve been learning a lot from your channel man!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏🤘
@brandoncondatore1051 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I have been recently experimenting switching back to 9's on my 6 strings. I bought my first 7-string it is a multi-scale 9-62. Also I just say it sounds like you've gotten a lot more comfortable on 7 strings seeing this video vs. Some of your earlier videos with 7-strings.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I struggled with it for sure, but yeah the lighter strings made a huge difference. I need to change strings now that we're talking about it!
@scottgroves5204 10 ай бұрын
Yes...Difference is pretty noticable. Lighter string are less muddy sounding and cut through the mix a lot better. Just so you know...I just purchased my 1st 7 string a LTD SN-1007 HT , and am following your tips! And so far so good. Making my transition so much better than I expected. Otherwise...I may have wanted to sell it a stick with 6! Thanks Jason! Been so very helpful! :)
@jasonstallworth 10 ай бұрын
Yeah the lighter strings made all the difference for me!
@jrock8233 Жыл бұрын
Sounds killer my man! 🤘🤘 Dino Cazarez from Fear Factory i read an interview like many many years ago and he says that he uses 9-52 on his 7 because he noticed that he loses a lot of the crunch if he went thicker.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that as well!
@JoeTayMetal Жыл бұрын
Rock on brother 🖤
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@Bjornsguitarspecials Жыл бұрын
I did the same. I changed from 10s to 9s and it made a difference. I can control my bends better and lighter strings wil brighten the tone a bit. I’m happy with the change
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that one little change makes a big difference!
@randomcompdude Жыл бұрын
You seem like a good stand up dude, and your speaking voice makes me feel motivated.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏 that's what it's all about!
@randomcompdude Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth not gonna lie, you also make me want to tackle the quarterback.
@alecsmith5150 Жыл бұрын
Please do an instructional lesson on those riffs. Your songs are really fun to play! Anywho, your older lessons with you playing the LTD and Prestige, I've been jamming those on my 7-string. Doing that in order to get use to the thickness of those 7-string necks.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That lesson will be out in a day or so!!
@p0kerp1aya Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video on my phone, so I can't hear any subtle difference that may be there. However the most important thing is how the 9's feel to you, and if they inspire you to pick up your guitar and play. Keep rocking brother. 🤙🎸🎶🎵
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
It's definitely about feel and I really love the 9s. It's ignited that fire for playing 7 string
@darksaga6095 Жыл бұрын
Cool channel and music. Awesome comment about playing whatever you find comfortable. I personally play Light top and heavy bottom D'Addario. Sometimes go heavier bottom.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, going with what feels most natural is always best
@darksaga6095 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth you got it man. You should check out our music. It's king diamond, slayer and maiden in one.
@deadheadbetty6663 Жыл бұрын
Nice guitar bro great channel man
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoy it and hopefully the tips help. I've got some cool stuff coming out this week (metal lesson and amp demo)
@algrundau9441 Жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT.....The "thin string" on top was originally how Steve Vai approached to whole 7 string idea......Before the dudes from Korn had everyone downtuning to the abyss....(Still have baritone guitars from that era) But another excellent point about "how small changes in 1 or 2 area's can make MASSIVE difference's in all area's of life." THAT is SO true. We often look for the big "home run hitter" big change. And often, a slight change to diet, training, playing guitar. reading, money, whatever.....Can make a HUGE difference. Well said Jason. Cheers!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Man, I'm so glad you pointed all of that out in your comment, and thank you!
@algrundau9441 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth The whole World needs "little changes" ...Where else do we start? Cheers Jason!....Long Live Metal.
@MORTIFICER Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Like the content and vibes.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that
@scsreaper Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I love playing 8s. Smooth and comfortable. But you turned me on to elixirs, which seem to only come in 9s as the thinnest through my sources. I'm torn. But I thoroughly enjoy the elixirs. It works for me now. Adaptability.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Dude, I've never tried 8s that I can remember. But yeah, I've been using Elixirs for over 20 years now. Anytime I tried another brand, I quickly went back to Elixir
@WhiskersJelly Жыл бұрын
I loved playing my guitars with boat anchor ropes as strings. At least I thought I did ..... My 6 string in C was set up with 13-62. I played 11s in standard E. I'm now playing 9s again and have similarly rediscovered my enthusiasm for playing. As a bonus, I get much less fatigued with my fretting hand. I still am working on relaxing my grip on the neck and the pick with the lighter strings.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
The fatigue is a big thing, too, and I may talk more about that in a different video.
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
emg's bright crunch on the chordal chugs loves the smaller strings. Even with the 10-56 it was absent enough that i prefer the 52's. You could still use the 10 set with a 52 on the low. My custom Scourge 8 string by Monson guitars is going to be short scale with a floyd and tune up high.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well, and prefer that in the mix
@BEAVISKORNHOLIO69 Жыл бұрын
That sounds so awesome Jason I would love to learn how to play a 7th and even 8 string guitar but my hands would have to get used to how big the fret board is LoL 😆 happy holidays 🎄⛄🦌👍🆒🤶🎅🤘
@Emily_M81 Жыл бұрын
Believe in me who believes in you. I would say play them if you can find them; I like ESP 7-string necks better than Ibanez, and I like my Legator 8 multiscale over my 27" 8-string Ibanez.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Man, that was a concern for me as well! And it was part of my ongoing struggle with the 7 (I'm honestly not interested in playing an 8 string). I can say that the lighter gauge strings have solved that problem. It's much easier to play now
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Emily, I was considering selling my ESP and getting an Ibanez 7 string because I'm a big fan of their wizard necks. But going with 9s seems to have helped...my ESP is much easier to play now
@gearhead2017 Жыл бұрын
For years I used ghs boomers and tried the evh strings and that made a difference in tone,they were louder and brighter,was on amazon and saw they had 9 46 and got a pack,I'm sold on ernie ball strings! So I'll get the 3 pack of the hybrid ernie balls,they are more comfortable on the fingers,after watching this you have a new sub 🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sub. I’ve tried so many different strings but always when back to Elixirs. I think I’m so used to those coated strings that it’s hard to play anything else’s
@msi1985 Жыл бұрын
I am currently rocking a 26 and a 1/2 inch scale length, and I've found using 9-46 with a 58 or 60 on the low B. It feels wonderful to play! If I stay in B standard or tune up to drop A# with the rest of the guitar tuned F to F! But some songs I've been working at learning are either in A# standard or Drop A... so I've switched to 10-60, and it's held solid and sounds great, but I'm stuck not being able to tune UP to that keith merrow tuning used in pillars of creation 🙃
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@damonwolf793 Жыл бұрын
The difference is subtle but noticable. Lighter gauge strings do make a difference in tone and feel,but it does all boil down to preference. I personally like heavier gauge strings but that's because I tune down a half step. For instance I use 10-46 on me E flat guitar my V sharp standard guitar had 11-49s on it and my 7 string has 10-59s because it's down a half step. The important thing is the feel and playability of the instrument,and if lighter strings do it for you than fine. It's all up to the player.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I think the 10s are perfect for the E flat tuning. You're right, it's all in what inspires us!
@dce2119 Жыл бұрын
For 7 string guitars with floyd rose bridges I changed from 10s to 9s because I wanted to loosen up the bridge. The extra tension brought by an extra string forced me to use one more spring at the back of my floyd than I'm used to. I'm happier than ever with the result, but it all boils down to my preference and the bridge I'm using. I'm sure there are other bridges which handle 7 string .10 sets just fine with less springs.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a lot less effort with 9s
@jethrotannis5673 Жыл бұрын
The tens sounded way tighter and better to me before the mix. The 9s had pretty uncontrolled lows and mids. In the mix there was so much compression there was virtually no difference between the two sounds. But I agree with your general sentiment the most important thing for shaping your tone is your personal comfort.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
As far as the mix, I did not put any compression on but what you're probably hearing is there are two rhythm tracks hard panned left-right and that makes a big difference in overall tone. But yeah, I prefer the playability of 9s
@Sublight77 Жыл бұрын
As an older dude where arthritis and tendons and everything is a mess lol, lightening up on strings can make a world of difference, actually lightening up on your playing and fingers too, big difference, can play faster and smoother playing really light, then dig in when you need the extra chug. but hell its all to personal taste, part of the fun is floating around trying different stuff.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the joints and all aren't the same as we age. And lighter strings help so much with that. And I think that's been part of my struggle with my off and on relationship with my 7 string guitar. It's a much larger neck and that can cause pain over time.
@Sublight77 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth i hear ya loud and clear, 7 strings are a bit tougher on my hands
@Ramble1234 Жыл бұрын
I use 9-62 gauge strings on my 26.5" 7 string Jackson in A standard, and I couldn't be more happy with it. Super flexible when soloing and chunky with the low end. For my 6 strings, I use 9-42 elixirs in E for my Floyd rose, 10-52 in D and 11-56 d'addarios in C/B Standard. Light strings really work great for what they are, especially since you can't really hear a difference with distortion on. I would use 8 gauge strings on my floyd rose, but I prefer elixir strings since they're coated and last so much longer. (I have sweaty hands) shame that the don't make 8s, but it's totally worth not changing stings every damn week lol. Hell, even on my short scale acoustic I use 11-52 elixirs and they play and feel great! I don't regret it!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I need to go down to 11s on my acoustic, so I'm glad you mentioned that. I have 12s on my Martin and it's kind of tough to play 3-4 hour shows with.
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
Jason, been watching you for years and was horrified to see I wasn’t subscribed hah I just fixed that. Anyways, I def feel you on the light gauges being more inspiring to play. Just gotta adjust the pick attack. That being said, 52 is REALLY light for a Low B haha I’m used to a 64, and often use a 52 for me E flat 6 strings haha but I think I’m gonna drop down to a 59 - 60 on my 7 string, as the 64 is a bit much.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you so much for the support and the sub! Yeah, it really comes down to what you're comfortable with. I never cared for heavy strings but a lot of metal players love them.
@robertgrubs Жыл бұрын
What's up brother. Do you do any private lessons if so, what do you charge? By the way your an awsome guitarist. I dig your style. Keep on Rockin🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you. My schedule doesn't allow for private sessions but I do have guitar courses online and this is my beginner's metal guitar course: metalmastermind.com/metal-guitar-apprentice/
@Datakenta Жыл бұрын
I want lessons on this🎸🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I'll be working on that video soon!
@toddstropicals Жыл бұрын
Sounds like something worked! That sounded killer.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you, brother Todd! Yeah, the 9s kind of rekindled my strange relationship that I've had with my 7 string! lol
@davelanciani-dimaensionx Жыл бұрын
As I've gotten older, and just don't play as much, I prefer less tension in my strings. So I use .009's for E Standard tuning, and .010's for D Standard tuning. Nothing heavier than .010's. I find lighter, thinner strings tend to vibrate better and longer. You get better feedback and sustain. Heavier strings don't vibrate as much, and tend to stop vibrating sooner. Tony Iommi used .009's and tuned down to C# Standard, and his tone was always killer.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Brother, it's time for you to start playing more and I want to encourage you to jump in! And yes, having less tension really helps with your hands as we age!
@ricksanchezito8972 Жыл бұрын
That's a kick ass guitar 🤘🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've got an entire video on it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbh-ra2l05fFgXk.html
@jimberjamber8540 Жыл бұрын
So I primarily play baritone 6 strings, and the main reason is because I just don't like the tension I get for B standard on my 25.5" scale 7 string. I really love playing 7 strings though, so I decided to do a similar experiment with a set of 9-42's and a 52 for the low B, but instead I tuned a full step up to C# standard instead. Of course the 9 can't handle being tuned up to F# so I ended up keeping it tuned to E so it's tuned down a third (kinda like DADGAD tuning). I LOVE the tension I get now. Nice and tight but not to the point of the strings being too hard to bend. I kinda wanna try an 8 or maybe a 7 and see if I can get that high string up to F#.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Man, I've had a weird relationship with my 7 string and I actually have it up for sale on Sweetwater used gear site
@Mr.krabz2182 Жыл бұрын
I had these before, i feel like the output is a little bit weaker but thats about it as far as ive found, comfy to play and last a good while
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
As far as the brand Elixir, I've been using those for a couple of decades now and anytime I've changed brands, I wasn't happy and quickly went back to Elixir. I do like the feel of the 9s overall much better
@jackbootshamangaming4541 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking at changing gauge, but going up. I use the Ernie Ball Cobalt Slinkies. I use the standard gauge right now, was going to go to the Skinny Top Heavy Bottoms, although now I want to give these lighter gauges a try. Sadly EB doesn't have any lighter gauges for 7 string packs. I am in Drop G. I could tell a small difference, not at all substantial.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@jackbootshamangaming4541 5 ай бұрын
I went all the way to 80-13, with a 36w for the 3rd. Loving it. @@jasonstallworth
@crypto_skull_z3910 Жыл бұрын
It is a matter of preference with string gage unless your down tuning really low then you need a little thicker gage to keep things tight. Quick question, what IR’s are you using with bius fx 2 to make it not sound muddy? Mine all the IR’s that come with it sound like my amp is under water. Even when I import some other ones I have it still doesn’t sound anything like what your getting. I have the elite edition and I want to use it but I can’t get the tone to sound full and open. Love your video and your playing!!!!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Definitely a matter of preference, and thank you for the kind words. For this video, I used the Loomis amp (in the Metal Pack, which is extra) with the Celestion V30s. To me, those Celestions (in the Classic Pack) made a big difference. I have another video posting today or tomorrow with all of the amps in the Metal Pack but just using the default cabinets they're paired with, which sounds decent. As far as their other IRs, man, I didn't care for them at all!
@Jeremy-zj2jo Жыл бұрын
It's all about the wiggle!! Not, the size!!! Never forget! Lol
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@mikerauter1859 Жыл бұрын
The winner here is Elixir strings they slap hard Bro!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
They're both Elixirs but I just went from 10s to 9s. I've been using Elixirs for over 20 years! Anytime I've tried another brand, I quickly went back to Elixir
@alaindouge5499 Жыл бұрын
Freaking Cool!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@iduncanw Жыл бұрын
Any difference seemed mostly pretty subtle to me, might be KZfaq compression though. Both still sounded pretty sweet and if 9s help Keep it Metal that's all that counts 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, KZfaq kinda kills the sound! lol
@ericsmith6633 Жыл бұрын
On all my baritone 7s I run 9-58g for drop A and it’s perfect for me. I have a EII horizon baritone and those strings on that guitar is just killer!!! Biggest thing is the guitar just needs to be set up properly, neck set right, and the guitar will play way better! But I’m not a thick gauge string player either. I think lighter g strings sound better, more crisp, and don’t lie as fast as thicker strings. To me anyway
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just that small change made a huge difference and I'm loving my 7 a lot more now
@cmdrbobert9862 Жыл бұрын
Your video has helped me decide. I've been using .010-.056 on my Ibanez RGIF7, and I think it was a mistake. The action is far too high, and it's much harder for me to play. I'm going to grab a pack of .009-.054 and see what happens.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, check out the 9s. I even like the tone better with the lighter strings and plays much easier
@michaeltobin3547 Жыл бұрын
The heavier strings sound a little heavier, elixir strings is what I use, been learning guitar for just over 2 years. Your videos inspire me to keep playing. Thanks for such great videos. Keen to hear your thoughts on the Australian Maton guitar? And I’m in Australia 😂
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear that and thank you for supporting the channel! I've never heard of that brand but would love to try one
@michaeltobin3547 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth Tommy Emanuel plays Maton. So does Keith Urban.
@stevenmoutard1992 Жыл бұрын
The .009's seemed brighter. I'm liking it
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like the 9s much better
@Twy7chTec_Vayper Жыл бұрын
Yea dude, mos def do a lesson on that sorta thing, lol why not?? And I am totally with you when it comes to lighter strings too. I've got (4) 7-Strings lol and they each are in there own tuning, have specific string gauges depending on the tuning 😄 The most temperamental, customized Guage I have is on my 7-string Multi-Scale FanFret (9.5-58, Standard B)
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
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@Twy7chTec_Vayper Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth 🦾🤘🏻💯😎🤓🎸
@Sammgm Жыл бұрын
I've been running a 9's set with a 59 bottom string to get a more even tension across the strings. 10's on a 26.5 scale always felt like overkill to me and as you say, it kills the tone
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, I noticed that the tone sounded a little muddy with the 10s The 9s have more clarity, at least to my ears
@jeffreyschned4200 Жыл бұрын
I like the 9s tone and fluency in playing seemed a little more relaxed... i went from 10s to 9.5-44 on my 6strings made a diff in my playing and tone...
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
It's definitely personal preference. Some folks play better with heavier strings.
@jeffreyschned4200 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth true ... i do use a 10 or 11 depending on how the guitar takes or sounds while down a full step or more... i guess that while down tuned the strings are looser and a 10 or 11 would feel like a 9.5...
@bgomusicco Жыл бұрын
For me, I love the cleaner sound of heavy strings (I have a heavy picking technique) but I don't like to play them. I have also settled with 9s.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of that comes with your style and pick attack
@jooyoonchung3593 Жыл бұрын
So … question. How old were the 10s before you switched them out with 9s? Is part of the reason why the 9s sounded brighter simply due to them being newer? I agree 100% about playability. I played 9s for years; then took a break. Picked up a new EC1000 a few months back to get back into it, and it was strung with 10s. I remember thinking, man, did I really lose so much hand strength? And it took me a long time to realize: DUH you used to play with 9s! Lol. So I switched to 9s and I’m back in the zone. Anyway love the riffs, and love the content. Keep it up!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Those were several months old but Elixirs don't really lose their tone, especially when the guitar isn't played as much and sitting in your room (I haven't used this guitar live for a while). But yes, the 9s feel so much better
@catalyzed8457 Жыл бұрын
I have the optiweb 9-52 on mine and love them, I tried the 10’s once and hated them. More clarity for me and easier to hit pinch harmonics on that low b string. I’m not sure if they measure the string thickness before or after the coating either?
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's a great question...I don't know how they measure that either. But yes, I am loving the 9s for all the reasons you mentioned!
@nickkoabel Жыл бұрын
I use 9-42 with a 56 on my 27" scale Ibanez RG2027XL tuned to Bb and it is perfect to me. I can only use 10s if I'm tuning down to A or lower. I use Nanowebs, too. I kill every other type of string. lol
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah I love the Nanowebs!
@entyzst Жыл бұрын
I feel like the small preference details is what really matters when playing guitar. I have bought jackson js 7 string which was equipped with 9-52 strings stock and I did shocking thing of downtuning to G# Standard and it's the first time I'm tuning that low with such light strings and Its most comfortable I've ever been on guitar. And my picking technique gotten much more precise just because you need to hit more accurately and evenly with lighter strings. But then If you think about it, Iommi was playing .42 in C# on gibson scale with no problem and I have .42 on C# on 26.5 on 6th string which means I could probably go down a halfstep more haha. But if you go to the internet everybody is like "you need .74 for that tuning or it will be too floopy" which is not whole truth. You gotta try yourself and see if it works for you.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Very true…it’s all about what works for you 🤘
@nesbittinstrumentals Жыл бұрын
I've been using 10-56 in standard on my 7, and after a couple hours of playing, my hand needs a break. I just ordered a set of 9-54. Hoping that the left hand doesn't get as wore out. Also dropping the pick gauge from 1mm to 88mm
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's one thing I notice, in general, on a 7 string. My hands get tired (maybe I'm just old! lol) But the 9s certainly help
@nesbittinstrumentals Жыл бұрын
My Jackson was strung in the factory with 9-52s.
@schecter7elite801 Жыл бұрын
Those 9s sound amazing on that 7 string. 🤘 Id love to hear thinner strings on a baritone. 🙂
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I do love the 9s on pretty much all guitars!
@schecter7elite801 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth hell yeah brother. 🤘 I have 10s on my Ibanez. This convinced me to go to lighter gauge. 🤘
@GoBuyMulk Жыл бұрын
If u didnt mention having super light strings on your 7 we probably wouldnt have noticed ahahah. Sounds great
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Lol...that's a great point! I should have started the video out comparing both and not saying anything!
@DJCD92162095 Жыл бұрын
The heavier the more muddier & bottom end! The lighter the more punchier & clarity! I would take string 7,6,5 with all same heavier gage, while string 4,3,2,1 all super light gages but of course on the non floating bridged & reverse headstock guitars. By the way, is there a possible for you & Kevin Frasard doing some guitar stuffs together? That would be awesome! 👍🤘🙏🙌
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's a great point! And that's something I noticed as well. Oh, and Kevin and I did a collab a while back: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7mAi9WHybKncXk.html
@DJCD92162095 Жыл бұрын
So good! You and Kevin made for each others! 👍🤘🙏🙌
@bierutki Жыл бұрын
Super lights have a slight change in the higher tones. Light seems to muffle the higher tone ever so slightly.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a preference. I'm loving the playability of the 9s...kinda made me love my 7 string more!
@ToneD5150 Жыл бұрын
Sounds a little brighter, which sounds good. Did the intonation change at all...???
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
The only thing I messed with were the screws in the back but didn't mess with the intonation at all and the action is still setup where I want it.
@nufit7 Жыл бұрын
thanks jason. lighter string for more comfortable play, it's a good advice for me
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yes, to me it's all about comfort!
@dekjeg Жыл бұрын
I think for me the 9s were quite a bit brighter And yes do a vid on the lead 🍻
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they stand out a bit more. And I love the playability of 9s over the 10s.
@BazonBlades Жыл бұрын
Tuning preference can be all over the place depending on the person. I have played guitars that have made me shake my head....But the owners could throw down on them. Go figure. I set up all my guitars the same. 25.5" scale length, strung with 10's and tuned one step flat. Both 6 and 7 string guitars are the same and I never deviate from that set up.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think 10s are perfect for that E flat or even D standard tuning
@MorrisChannel4 Жыл бұрын
The thickest i used have been .065. My main 7 has .056 on there at the moment. I may moved back to .09 but have the low b at .054
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🤘
@daveklein6585 Жыл бұрын
Yo!!!.. I liked the sound of the .9s better.. more clarity it seemed.. so what is the Low B string gauge on that .9 set?? .. and what is the scale length of your Jackson???
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Man, that's exactly what I noticed more clarity. That could have something to do with my style being less aggressive that most. Guitarists that play with an aggressive attack may benefit from heavier string. But I'm loving the 9s on this thing!
@daveklein6585 Жыл бұрын
@Jason Stallworth totally... So are you tuning to B standard? And what is the low B string guage?
@duayynnneremm757 Жыл бұрын
Before I joined the band I am currently in I played 6 strings in standard E with 10-48's. Then I joined the band and all the sudden I'm playing 7-strings in drop A tuning. After some trial and error I ended up with 9-42's then a 59 for that low b that's dropped to A. Feels absolutely perfect
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a good plan for the drop!
@controversywithkdawg6077 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it would be an awful and huge jump going from 7th string to the 6th if your going from 59-42
@swedensniping Жыл бұрын
@@controversywithkdawg6077 Why should it be a problem? I play with 10-46 and a 74 in alternate drop F with no problems lol
@TwistedIdentity Жыл бұрын
What's your action at the 12th fret with those 9 gauge strings? And are you able to go to drop A or no? I'm sure ours are setup totally different but the 7 string I have HAS to have a minimum of like a 58 for the 7th if I want drop A without it sounding like fart.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I've got the action as low as possible without buzzing. Sweetwater did a great job at the initial setup and I've never messed with it (going from 10s to 9s didn't impact that at all). I never drop tune so I wouldn't know about that
@TwistedIdentity Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth ahh okay. Lol I'm always tinkering, I've had a piss poor experience with Sweetwater any time I buy a guitar from them though. I decided to go for 9-46 with a 59 on the bottom last night then I lowered the action a good bit. I'm digging it
@Emily_M81 Жыл бұрын
it gets worse, Jason. I looked up the E-II and it's like my SC-607; 27" scale length AND you were using 10s :D I'm actually using a .120 to .035 set on one of my 5-string basses and it's my favorite bass right now. it's a little tricky to find 9s for 7-string sets in general which is kind of sad. EB makes a Super Slinky set, D'Adarrio makes an XL set; I might buy their NYXL 009-080 set for my 607 and drop the thicc string. There's a few others, but I guess they expect everyone to tune their 7s down or something. I could pretty easily hear the difference on your guitar, just like I can hear the difference on my 8-strings where one has a .074 and the other a .080 tuned to G1. More crisp, tighter definition, etc. Neither is bad per se, just what the player wants :)
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Elixir didn't have 9s in production for a while and that was irritating! I'm so glad they started making them again! The 9s seems to have more clarity. The heavier strings on those lower notes were always a bit muddy to me. Now, that could be just my style. I don't have an aggressive playing style. More so a lighter touch. Folks that have more of an aggressive attack may prefer heavier strings. I need to find bass strings for my 5 string that I'm happy with. I've yet to try Elixirs on that (I think I've just used the GHS strings). One thing I've noticed is that there's a big change of tone going from the A to D string, and it doesn't sound natural. So I'll take any recommendations you have! (I may repost this in the Metal Mastermind discord)
@instrumentalist28 Жыл бұрын
You didn't have buzzing problems with the .52 low b??? I always did on my 7 string guitars with trems, I had to use a .60 gauge
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's usually a setup issue and I take my guitars to a local shop to get them properly setup
@R1GAMBLER Жыл бұрын
what's your favorite tuning for your 7 ?
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I'm always in standard
@tedwrink 5 ай бұрын
What tuning are you in on this guitar please ? Thanks
@jasonstallworth 5 ай бұрын
always standard
@jotunbjorn Жыл бұрын
That's a baritone, I take it? I've got a 28" Schecter 8-string and I'm using .008-.042, 56, 74 custom Ernie Balls. It's impossible for me to bend the high e unless it's a .008".
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
It's just a normal 7 string, ESP E-II Horizon FR-7. Yeah, I would imagine a baritone would need even lighter strings for those bends.
@ZinoAmare Жыл бұрын
I did hear something, but It won't matter, if it sounds good it sounds good :D
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's a great point!
@charleschastain829 Жыл бұрын
Metallite, 🪓 chop chop chop love it...
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏🤘
@leonidaspapanikolaou3165 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to hear a difference. I believe what is more critical is how the strings feel to the player, because it will also affect the tone I use both sizes for my 7 string. I use Elixir exclusively. You are right, I remember their production problem!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's what I noticed, too. I don't hear a substantial difference in tone. But the playability for me is so much better now with the super lights.
@leonidaspapanikolaou3165 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth, I agree. And both have advantages and disadvantages. Heavier strings will stay in tune better. But lighter strings are handier for bends and solos.
@JMDV1 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if 9-54 would work for Bb standard
@jasonstallworth 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I think you could get by with that
@rev1023 Жыл бұрын
I only heard a significant difference on the the rhythms, the rest the very little difference. The 9 were much crisper and with solid chunks sound. Those 10's were a bit muddy on the rhythms.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats what I had always heard with my 10s...it was like something was missing. Really loving the 9s
@patrick3443 5 ай бұрын
I have 52 on mine but have to keep it at Beadgbe or it's to sloppy
@jasonstallworth 5 ай бұрын
🤘
@zyxwfish Жыл бұрын
I have 8-38 plus a 56 for the low B on my 7 string
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize they made 8s but that's interesting!
@zyxwfish Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth I put together my own custom pack. Even 7’s exist.
@donbishop6994 Жыл бұрын
If anything, the 10s seem to have a little more "presence". Maybe a very slightly more volume? If you didn't tell us you made the change, and didn't tell us when the changes happened in the mix, we probably wouldn't have been able to notice it. Add crowd noise and I doubt anybody could tell live.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah man, I think you're right. If you didn't know there was a change, no one would really hear any difference. I love the way the 9s feel though and really glad I made this change.
@80s_kid Жыл бұрын
IMO for the low B string, 52 is not enough for stable intonation. Beyond that, it's a matter of taste.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Love the name 80s kid...that's totally us! Yeah, string gauge is definitely a preference. As I'm playing with the 9s more, I seem to have more clarity with that lower string now. I always thought there was a slight bit of muddiness with the heavier B string. But I think a lot of that comes down to style. I have a lighter touch than many, so that could be the difference.
@80s_kid Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Jason! Yes, the strength of picking, string action and playing style also matter. I don't have a strong touch either (in my opinion), I use 6 strings with 25.5 scale length, low string action and I don't go thinner than 54 for C. For drop B, I use 56 at the moment but it is a bit loose for my taste, 57 (maybe 58) would be better. (D'Addario.) As many people, as many different priorities and sounds. I think the too thick and tight strings don't affect the sound well beyond a certain point. Of course this is very much a matter of taste, see the late Stevie Ray Vaughan who used 0.13 on his Fenders - OK, in Eb tuning but it is still thick. Or Phil Collen (Def Leppard), who (also) uses 13-56 strings (not in drop tuning) with a metal pick, which is brutal. :)
@charleschastain829 Жыл бұрын
Axseipian atomizer... sweet 7 man..
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏🤘
@joelhenry2254 Жыл бұрын
I can hear the super light strings react slightly faster when u hit notes
@thomascoolberth2648 Жыл бұрын
what tuning ?
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I'm always in standard
@brandonbryson3317 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say…I’m shocked it intonates correctly on the B string. 52 on a 25.5 is super light. Haha I have used a 52 in standard before. Couldn’t imagine it on a B string.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I was a little concerned at first but it turned out perfectly. I've never been a fan of heavy strings
@rurkovmj Жыл бұрын
for me 10a all the way but you can control gauge by eq a bit then what you like stick to it folks😉
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Definitely gotta go with what feels best to you
@obsolescentmystic2527 Жыл бұрын
A couple of factors here to me are, your guitar has actives which always muddy the water a bit and your tone sounds really mid scooped. There's definitely more definition and "fat" with the heavier strings though. I'll always prefer that.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
That's the one thing I'll do different if I get another 7 string...I'll get one with passive pickups. I've come to prefer those. Like my Ibanez RG1570 it has the stock V7/V8 and I love those better than most active pickups that I've played.
@obsolescentmystic2527 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth yeah, I'm a big Dimarzio pickups player so I like my mids and I will say with super middy tones, you really notice string gauges more. Palm mutes will have almost no power on light strings even with high action to compensate and your clarity suffers.
@controversywithkdawg6077 Жыл бұрын
The mick Thomson Seymour Duncan humbucker rocks try it
@anthonyfinch550 Жыл бұрын
"why're you workin so hard" ..... --B. B. KING
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🤘
@dimahunter1797 Жыл бұрын
What is your scale leight on this 7 strings?
@bucknasty69 Жыл бұрын
27 inches
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Coleman has it in the comment below. But I have a video on this guitar here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbh-ra2l05fFgXk.html
@dimahunter1797 Жыл бұрын
@@bucknasty69 seems like 9-54 must be good on this 27 scale for standard B. I didn't try, I use 6 strings.
@bucknasty69 Жыл бұрын
@@dimahunter1797 Longer scale lengths are going to raise string tension, so using a lighter set of strings can’t hurt. I also misspoke, it looks like the guitar in this video has a 25.5 inch scale length according to ESP’s website. However, Jason’s guitar is several years older than the current version so they could have changed the specs. I only said 27 inches because all of ESPs other 7 string Horizons have a 27 inch scale length.
@bucknasty69 Жыл бұрын
@@dimahunter1797 Also as far as strings go, use whatever you’re comfortable with. On electric guitar it isn’t going to make that much of a difference tone wise, especially with distortion and effects. With a good amp you can eq out whatever tone differences you may notice.
@epicmetalness Жыл бұрын
the 10s sound better. slightly less top end and slightly more compressed and even tonal range. not a big deal and can be compensated (in either direction) with the smallest EQ tweak
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I think we'd also have to listen on a better sound source. The only difference I could tell was the 9s were a little brighter...that could have also been that they were new strings. But Elixirs are great about keeping their tone for weeks.
@epicmetalness Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth good point about them being new, I hadent thought of that
@joshlogan3337 Жыл бұрын
Try them Curt Mangen 8's........
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🤘
@luciferAir Жыл бұрын
the 9s sound a bit more brighter and crisper. The 10s have a deeper more muffled to tone to them.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always thought that the 10s had less clarity for my style of playing. I don't have an aggressive attack
@Namelessforever_ Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered getting a baritone over a 7 string Jason? That’s what I did….but I’m not crazy about my baritone haha. We’re never fully satisfied as guitarists are we!? 😉🤘
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I've considered a baritone and never played one. But I don't think I'd want a longer neck.
@alexandregignac9136 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison,The 52 set sound a bit brighter and tighter. Personnally i like thinner strings for confort i play a m80m with 70s and it sound and play really great
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
The comfort makes a huge difference
@joshuasanchez7270 Жыл бұрын
The difference for me is clear: Jason can play solos, and I can't. I can't even understand how solos work. So it doesn't matter the string gauge, I can't make the guitar sound like that 🤣🤣
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm working on a lead guitar course and plan to release that early 2023! This will help simplify everything.
@user-pq5db7de5l Жыл бұрын
عزف جميل جدا 😍 أنت مبدع كالعاده
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏 🤘
@mehstudio Жыл бұрын
More definition ♥️
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, that's what I noticed and it plays so much better
@mehstudio Жыл бұрын
I use the 7-string Boomers from GHS, I think the tone of the strings is wonderful, but I have an 8-string, and I accidentally bought an extra light gauge and it came with more definition when I played it, then I did the same thing on the 7 strings and it also improved, and suddenly your video. Very cool!
@alexfox4904 Жыл бұрын
To me the 52s have more mids and a little more clarity in the gallops
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
I'm hearing that as well. I always thought the guitar sounded a bit muddy until I switched to 9s
@alexfox4904 Жыл бұрын
Did you used the same Low Cut Filter positions in the Mix as on 56s or did you Cut Out less on the 52s?
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
Wow, lighter gauge strings really make a big difference. As alot of people on different websites said, a longer scale allows you to get away w/ Lighter Gauge Strings & a Brighter sound. Since the scale length on a 7 (and more) String Guitar is often the same as a Baritone Guitar at 27 inches or a Short Scale Bass at 30 inches (some 7 String Guitars have a Scale Length that falls in between a Standard 6 String Guitar & a Baritone version), Lighter Gauge Strings certainly help. A guy on KZfaq restored himself a lovely Olbrei & Co 7 String Acoustic Guitar:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nq1kmbh62s2mYXU.html which is based on the Original 7 String Guitar that came all the way from Russia.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info here! I do love how the lighter strings feel on my 7. Much better for leads.
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth Man how did you not realize the longer scale length?
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstallworth I guess you could've gotten a handy folding ruler to measure the scale length from the nut to the bridge so you'd be able to tell how long the scale length is.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
@@RockStarOscarStern634 It came with 10s and I just kept using those. I wish I had gone to 9s earlier!
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
@@RockStarOscarStern634 That's one of my flaws, I guess. I don't pay much attention to spec and details.
@Luisramirez_504 Жыл бұрын
🤘🔥🔥🤘🙏🙏🙏
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
🙏🤘
@eduardostone2725 Жыл бұрын
idk maybe its my tonedeafness but .. the simplest explanation is like .. it went from motley crue to van halens angelic shredding.
@jasonstallworth Жыл бұрын
Definitely some of my influences in there!
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