Yes, with hyperbloom I cleared abyss 12 Before I struggled even in floor 11

Istg hyperbloom is a god send for F2p players just cause how low investment it is and how much damage it can do

Hyperbloom is created for the 'anxiety' people...

True, it's crazy how much dmg it deals just based on EM... but on the other hand Dendro Character kit just feels not that important, its all about how much Dendro they apply. You throw the whole kit outside and just spam buttons. It's good for dmg but kinda boring gameplay-wise.

The only issue is finding EM stat pieces since its the rarest one

yes, just the experience is completely different, swirl is just way too comfort to use compared to crystalize + AP, who can find that little crystalized shield in the middle of a fight with hella skill effects. tbh if the artifact set activate just by creating the crystal instead of picking them up, AP will be as OP as VV.

Crystallize should automatically dash towards our characters just like energy orbs.

probably not, otherwise they would have already buffed the set or reaction to do so. It's not that hard, they just need to get rid of the crystal nonsense and make the reaction give you the shield directly. Instead they just gave up on it and released no new Geo characters in the past 11 months.

When you look at how geo enemies work I think geo should have been the "infusion" element, but they gave that to anemo as well for some reason even though it already can spread elements around and cause chain reactions. I think crystalize should have had the archaic petra damage bonus baked into its core function, and then geo constructs be able to absorb the element they come in contact with and apply it/shred res to it. This would give geo a niche as a support for buffing mono-elemental damage, while anemo could then be exclusively focused on buffing multiple elements at once and facilitating reactions between them rather than just doing everything and leaving geo with nothing.

@@poyax. i just also had thought of that

with bloom reactions, f2p can easily clear abyss.

@@keiryeleison2933 and put to a better use of the OG characters such as Lisa as on field DPS, Barbruh as on/off field driver instead of the usual healer/buffer build. Deffo Dendro opened up a lot of options.

then nahida's c2 makes bloom crit... (at least it has a fixed rate and damage)

well dendro already buffs crystalize because it gives EM. it would be great to see an new 2 dendro 2 geo team based on geo and dendro forming a new type of SUPER CRYSTALIZE just make the crystal green and give like 20% dendro and geo damage buff or something . we could call it Wild Growth after magic the gathering

@@leandroTRA Yeah something like that, or for instance make dendro crystallizations that cause rock and vine ripples on spawn (not on pickup) with a little bit of AoE damage and a slow effect The flavor easily makes sense, I guess the challenge is just "how do we make sure it's not just a Zhongli buff and does nothing for geo as a whole"

Stop with this nonsense plz, Geo is ungabunga element. We have enough reactions already. I pick Geo because I don't have to think of creating reactions.

@@wreckingvi2265 I mean, you're free to have your opinion, but you can choose a bunch of ungabunga setups, geo and otherwise--more mono element teams that play super straightfowardly have been getting added along the way, even. The existence of variety doesn't force you to play it

@@Erideah the creation of vines is something we all talk about ever since we saw a dendro hilichurl shaman, I think they are saving the mechanic idea for a future 5 star

Neat idea, but why NA speed for Hydro? Should just match their resonances, so HP% would make more sense.

@@xanaviii yeah, hp% makes more sense.

Or hydro could be cd reduction cause it'll benefit all characters

@@xanaviii they probably had ayato in mind

@@xanaviii i was about to say that but not a lot of character scales with hp so maybe that's why he went with na speed?

bring that up to 80

Its mind blowing, or should I said earth 'shattering'

But it doesn't come up on the screen saying "shatter" tho

Wdym, i main DPS Shatter Chongyun since day 1 🗿

They willingly forgot because of how awful it is

Electro charged is also the main reason that Hyperbloom is so good and busted as it keeps continual application as dendro stacks

I play Electro Charged with Raiden, Kazuha, and Yelan and its gotten me through floor 11 (can't beat 12 cause my Barbara isn't built so she doesn't heal enough)

@@lowtetrisbeatbox965 well ur character is yelan, kazuha, raiden. That's like 3 of the most broken character in the game bro, i don't think the reaction (except swirl provide) matter that much

@Immanuel Kieza that's fair enough lol, but my team of Beidou and Fischl to take Raidens place actually did the same thing. my Fischls build is horrible (until recently she had a lvl 1 sac bow, lvl 60, no talent levels, shit artifacts) and my Beidou is okay (Prototype Archaic, 80/90, 6/6/6, 66/123)

I play Kokomi Fischl Sucrose Beidou and have easily finished floor 12 with 36 stars so yeah.

Probably after 3.4 and AlHaitham’s addition . Also by then we’ll have a better appreciation of the new artifact sets on characters that benefit from them the most (wanderer and alhaitham) .

TRUU

PLEASE WE DO IWTL ANOTHER ONE PLEASE 🥺🥺🥺

yeah, kuki had a huge glow up tho

@@Foxintox Midhaitham is an auto B-. No need to think about it.

So become shatter a additive insted of transformative

I want them to add bleed as a three step reaction (like how quicken ⇒ aggravate/spread : superconduct ⇒ bleed) to help out physical teams (which are sorely lacking at the moment)

​@@tuxmaceo2020burning kinda works like bleed

In whale meta, sure, in F2P meta Electrocharge was the meta reaction becose is the source of the Overvape and Soup comps

Yae is still bad

@@muzi69 30k per turret tick and 100k per q tick for me is not bad at all, at least it's enough to clear the current abyss with ease

@@muzi69 how? shes not easy to play but her damage is way better and consistent than most characters

Sad that they nerf burning so hard. Im not sure if dehya can be use without hydro and dendro

Don’t forget C2 Nahida making bountiful cores crit for massive loads of dmg

I think iwintolose is talking about nilou bloom dmg itself and not the whale yelan and ayato dmg when they are in nilou team.

@@kyori75 maybe you right, but great characters is what makes reaction great. I mean melt woudnt be good without Ganyu. So if great characters like Yelan could utilise this reaction to make more damage, then reaction is great

@@what-you-want-of-me-yt how tf Yelan doing bloom in triple hydro setup

@@littleboss2006 she isnt. Why she even should?

Burgeon is limiting only because of the units. There's only one pyro character and people are still in denial to build him simply because he required that much of an investment to play (EM ER substat). Theres also Kazuha Bennett setup for burgeon but these two are better off with other team. Burning doesn't exist if you have the right rotation and the right unit. It still ties with Hyperbloom for dps but it conditionally better on multiple waves enemies but performs equal or sometimes worse against ST. These two reactions has higher dpr than both Aggravate and Spread. The only thing that makes hyperbloom ahead of burgeon is simply because the team can abuse aggravate and spread while also triggering hyperbloom. That's why burgeon seems like the only reaction out of the four with less love. Alhaitham quickbloom right now is the best quickbloom team that abuses spread + hyperbloom reactions. Aggravate and spread on its own is still a great reaction but has less dpr than both burgeon and hyperbloom but hyperbloom + spread/agg is the best combination.

Electro-Charge in the corner:

I’ve started with Overload because I thought it was OP 😭

@@insxnemxnd3127 it explodes, and it look cool at first. lol

You forgot swirl baby

@@barrybarry3372fr the impact that it made made me think that it was the most OP reaction

Still not good enough because of Geo...

Hydro has been superior from the start. Now it is beyond superior

SIX MONTHS?

Yea, Vape and Melt having Multipliers and Spread and Aggravate even though they can crit, which is a huge plus unfortunatly only get a flat increase from the Reaction and EM. It's like saying flat stats existing might be worse Damage then %Damage, but it can still be good! Nah that's not how it works. But you are right, that it's very essential that the aura keeps on staying, which is insanly useful. Unfortunatly same problem as with the other reactions. There simply aren't enough characters to really utiliize this yet. Even though technically any Dendro or Electro Crit Based Char can do it.

@@chaosinfernoid9008 Basically, Vape/Melt and Aggrevate work completely differently, although both can land crits. Vape/Melt is good for few but strong hits, while Aggrevate relies on many reactions in a short time, triggered by many characters As for the Electro character, there are many characters that benefit greatly from it, while attacks like Raiden's Q that are already strong give little bonus, making for good balancing. As far as Dendro goes, the amount of characters isn't that big, but you can tell that they're designed similarly to Elektro with many hits

Agreed. Aggravate/Spread is great but can also be broken because how well and easy these reactions can be incorporated in hyperbloom making quickbloom team.

Lol Me on spiral abyss 3.1 with nahida, venti, yanfei, kazuha. After swirl this swirl that.. Where is my character ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ

@@Joker-hq4js ikr

Venti alone is very effective agaisnt Ventiable enemies

Ah yes, a team whose main objective is to survive from yourself. Granted my Kokomi is EM-built, but it is still amazing how she is always on the brink of death like Hu Tao.

100% lol, my Ayaka wants Kokomi back for abyss 🤣 Not to mention Nahida can make Yaoyao wear the deepwood set. I've been prefarming a healer deepwood set for this moment

@@aciesara5444 lol yes, especially in the current abyss twelve where there are multiple flying dragon robots. First time i saw my kokomi slain because she was using full EM 😂

exactly. imagine how much powerful it would get when new dendro or hydro comes out.

Personally, I want it to be part of Quicken and Bloom. The reason for those two being as follows: 1) It means a single geo can be tossed into various dendro teams, which already tend to include hydro, electro, and pyro. So geo gets to play with various elements, albeit indirectly. 2) Neither of these would be great with Zhongli as he is normally built. To have him trigger big blooms, he'll need EM, which would mean lower hp, while Quicken would only work on the geo portion of his damage, and would want a crit and geo DMG build, which again would come at the cost of his shield strength.

@@zendefta??? Are you guys living in a different world? Most people recommend hyperbloom teams for f2ps, and if you ask a lot of players which teams they use for abyss, you’ll get a lot of people saying hyperbloom. Or do people still just want to call everything underrated?

​@@aperson6562 Yeah, I'd say the two most suggested teams are National and Hyperbloom/quickbloom, currently. Both are easy to acquire, strong teams, that can handle most any situation. That said, I do think content creators have a bit of a tendency to focus more on putting out content about Quicken teams than hyperbloom ones. But there's a simple reason for that, and that's that quicken teams allow them to focus on a greater variety of characters... pretty much any electro character. can have the spotlight. Hyperbloom lacks that. The focus will be on the one setting off the bloom, and that is a pretty limited set of characters who do it well: Kuki for most, Raiden for those okay without a healer, Lisa for those that lack the other options, and maybe Sucrose.

i love burning melt. forward melt with burning leftoover is so satisfying.

The main reason it fell out of favor is because it breaks freeze, so people actively avoid it. it's counter-productive to the blizzard set

Is kuki hyperbloom weaker then nilou bloom?

@@shanty2782 its better for single target enemies but weaker for multi targets