I Rate Your Absurd Tactics

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Ай бұрын

There are a lot of ways to win on Football Manager but some of the tactics we just looked at seem impossible, like there’s no way they actually work… but I kind of want to try it. The FM community has conjured up some inspiration as I take Tom and Clayts through a list of tactics that might just change the way you play the game forever. I rate this video 10/10.
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@gezblair Ай бұрын

“What do you want your keeper to do Brian?” “Just be a keeper please”.😂

@simonwilliams567 Ай бұрын

i wish they were more Brian's, but it takes Brains to be a Brian.

@Jester-611 Ай бұрын

like brainey brian from horrid henry@@simonwilliams567

@tmmw1975 Ай бұрын

“Shape: Brian” killed me

@Martyr216 Ай бұрын

i am wearing headphones and had to hold in a very sincere chuckle at that.

@Aldiyaz 26 күн бұрын

RULE BRITANNIA!

@TomFM Ай бұрын

Brian Stewart for England Manager!

@brianbks02 Ай бұрын

I'll stick to Elgin Tom, but thanks for the glowing review! 🤣🤣

@TheVanpablo79 Ай бұрын

lol, Sven in FM

@ianrae1546 Ай бұрын

Mike Bassett: England Manager. Was the first thing I thought of 😂when I

@Aldiyaz 26 күн бұрын

@@brianbks02 FREEDOM! EYES ON THE BALL REF! THE GAME'S GONE SOFT! - Brexitball, probably

@Clayts Ай бұрын

Brian

@brianbks02 Ай бұрын

Thanks Clayts, deeply appreciated. 🤣

@catpoofa Ай бұрын

Top marks for not tryingggggg

@jhplayz298 Ай бұрын

Brian

@nemotoad9315 Ай бұрын

Shape: Brian

@Mythriak_ Ай бұрын

You can hear the Guardiolas melting at the mere sight of him

@brianbks02 Ай бұрын

No no, I have called it "Brian Stewart - 4-4-2 Control Possession" on my save guys. It's a naming convention I've used for each of my tactics. (Manager Name) (Style). Thanks for the ratings guys, love it. 🤩

@LupusImmortalis Ай бұрын

Game's not gone and you're proof of that. Well done sir! o7

@Isekaizen6466 Ай бұрын

Brian/10

@simplesimonhadapie Ай бұрын

You have to appreciate simplicity and the Scottish lower leagues are super competitive. I played a 4-4-2 but with two advanced inside forwards with bonnyrigg rose and that was very successful and I also used a target forward of good height

@nemotoad9315 Ай бұрын

Brian.

@tjsheihk9820 Ай бұрын

You my friend are a man amongst men. Absolutely solid stuff mate

@kreesmobeeruun Ай бұрын

The Brian tactic was a banger! Zealand mentioned that he could hear rule Britannia from that tactic really got me lmao lol.

@deanmcdougall5331 Ай бұрын

For a Scottish team with a Scottish manager? No thanks.

@brianbks02 Ай бұрын

@@deanmcdougall5331 Yeah, Zealand got that wrong! I'm more likely to be signing Flower of Scotland

@h3nder Ай бұрын

It took me a moment to realize they loaded the tactics, instead of the saves, and I was surprised that everyone was signing the same players.

@markusdeux1192 Ай бұрын

Right? I don't know why it took me so long to work that out 😂

@Will-sl1iv Ай бұрын

i was trying to work out why they were using van de ven as a winger in that first tactic for so long

@Nayyy_08 Ай бұрын

Player : Boss, We Got The Ball, What We Need To Do Now? Brian : Nah, Just Chill Out, We Good

@martynhunter6083 Ай бұрын

My God. The years of going to watch Airdrie play in the Scottish lower leagues. Just 2 teams playing 4-4-2 with long ball to a target man. Brought back some horrible memories.

@simplesimonhadapie Ай бұрын

Scottish football still has that warrior brutality down the leagues 🤣

@Aldiyaz 26 күн бұрын

@@simplesimonhadapieEYES ON THE BALL REF! THE GAME'S GONE SOFT!

@charlesfairs1427 Ай бұрын

Tom absolutely losing it at the end has sent me 😂

@franciscomarcelino1251 Ай бұрын

Brian gets what proper football is like. Get in lads

@brunoactis1104 Ай бұрын

Proper geezer

@ianrae1546 Ай бұрын

Brian definitely wears a flat cap whilst on the touch line 😂

@kliklaminaat Ай бұрын

Everything about the last tactic is amazing

@SanFranFan30 Ай бұрын

The 4-1-4-1 tactic is basically Erik Ten Haag tactics.

@savaugee7322 Ай бұрын

Nah ten hag plays a 4-6 rn

@jafarsabbagh7914 Ай бұрын

Thats a lie he doesnt have a tactic

@KT-ki6gz Ай бұрын

The 1 at the top being Rashford on the left with the instruction “Always be offside” 🤦‍♂️

@EpicRenegade777 Ай бұрын

@@KT-ki6gz fills mctominay and garnacho full of caffine and tell them to just go nuts

@laurynasbudinas4585 Ай бұрын

Actually that tactic is stolen from ZAZ (quick fire) with few minor tweaks

@olitplays3523 Ай бұрын

i never thought I'd be almost crying laughing at a FM tactics video but that last one sent me

@emstett7488 Ай бұрын

just sad, that there are no links to the shown tacticts to have a look at it ingame yourself :(

@jacka8792 Ай бұрын

Hi guys, Killnion here (the first tactic), thought I'd share some information It works very well (won premier league and on-course for champions league with Colchester when I go back to it), it was inspired by Pep at city as he uses this a variation similar to this in some games. It is also similar to Alonso's formation, tho I made this before this season so that's just by chance. Quite a few people was right with their interpretations such as the 4-man block of midfield, Liberio stepping up alongside dlp, etc. You need the right personal e.g. fast WCB, technical Liberio, high work-rate Wingers. I can't link the tactic in this comment so :( Honestly its so good for me so I hope people have fun ;) And thanks for using my pic as the thumbnail Z!

@umbertorobotti6735 Ай бұрын

Carlo Ancelotti's Milan was playing with this tactic, so called "xmas tree" and a couple of CL...

@jacka8792 Ай бұрын

@@umbertorobotti6735 Before my time but thanks for letting me know I'll check that out!

@umbertorobotti6735 Ай бұрын

don't make me feel old mate... 😅@@jacka8792

@bentarbuck6161 Ай бұрын

We need a follow up were some of these get given 5 games and highlights are show and laughed at or praised

@simplesimonhadapie Ай бұрын

This is something I would love to see. Even play them off against each other could be fun

@cv_luka Ай бұрын

From now on my answer to anything is simply Brian.

@lunardancer6047 Ай бұрын

I remember Gung Ho. I think that goes FM07 or maybe earlier. Even back then it did the same thing where you'd switch to to it out of desperation at the end of a game you were losing and then nothing would happen.

@Mythriak_ Ай бұрын

Gung-ho was the button you'd push when you were almost losing, then you'd be sure you'd lose.

@kaizenFM Ай бұрын

This was very wholesome, loved this guys. God bless you Brian.

@toby4784 Ай бұрын

Tom dying at “Shape: Brian” absolutely wrecked me man😭😭😭

@damonimpact01 Ай бұрын

Brian!!!! Well done. Good luck with your save out there. Everyone else in the video, great job and continue your journey on FM24.

@ravenshade266 Ай бұрын

brian

@jhplayz298 Ай бұрын

Brian

@ethanseldiakov7551 Ай бұрын

Brian

@Joseph-gp2fq Ай бұрын

The 4-1-4-1 is by far the best tactic seen on the channel. Its a 2-3-4-1 the IWB's are so overpowered doing 2 jobs at once, and sheer amount of goals those attackers score.

@MrRokkit Ай бұрын

This is soul-destroying!! When you do more of these _please_ try it out an add a clip or two.

@RareNotorious Ай бұрын

I just wanted to say I love this channel, been following for years at this point and gotta give some love I love seeing new videos pop up

@Derek-qu8qi Ай бұрын

1:29 I made up this 3-2-4-1 tactic in FM07 or about then. It didn’t have the positional roles, but it was the same players positions. I was San Lorenzo in Argentina and they were gash. They had decent players in these positions but no good CMs, so I got creative to use what I had and it also covered all the weak areas (or red patches). I jumped between 2-1 and 1-2 in the front 3, and it worked because we went on a mad unbeaten run.

@HistoriadorGeek Ай бұрын

In the first tactic, Endrick is playing in this exact position in this exact tactic in Palmeiras right now, and we just score 5x1 in regional cup. IT WORKS, IT JUST WORKS.

@BrasilianFury Ай бұрын

Yes, it very much does. AVANTI PALESTRA!

@culpman3241 Ай бұрын

Ahh wish I would have known about this. I created a tactic in my Ajax rebuild based on a Xabi Alonso style of play. Defends in a 5-3-2, but attacks in a 4-2-4. Plays some beautiful football!

@jpmachado_ Ай бұрын

i love the dynamic of this video and also Brian

@Nosceteipsum166 Ай бұрын

0:52 I made almost the same tactic inspired on Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, but I use two CMs instead of two DMs and I have 1 winger and 1 wide midfielder. The libero is very, very, very important, basically the heart of the team. It's amazing to press the opposition. Sometimes I end games with 80% possession, and goals from counterpressing are frequent. You just need to be very careful with your setup, though. I won the Premier League and lost UCL final with that tactic.

@stefvalk7452 Ай бұрын

'Nothing silly lads.' 'I just want my goalkeeper to be a goalie.' 'Slow the pace down lads.' Tears in my eyes.

@thechriscrowing Ай бұрын

That last one was just perfection. Totally willing to believe 'Brian Stewart' is actually some Scottish lower league legend like Dick Campbell, living his best life on FM24.

@ianrae1546 Ай бұрын

Dick Campbell and Terry Christie were the two managers that immediately popped into my mind when I saw Brian’s tactic 😂

@andrewtaylor6263 Ай бұрын

Get Brian on your videos 🙏🙏 We all want the life of Brian 😉

@andrewburgess3643 Ай бұрын

Great commentary, love the shirt Z. So much in fact that I’ve just ordered it to be delivered to Australia.

@Jasoncj099 Ай бұрын

The 4-2-2-2 is one of the best starting comps to start a new save in FM, its not gonna work in the long run but when starting with a bad team its really good

@hongki92 Ай бұрын

You guys should have tried out and played a game with the tactics!

@n0body550 Ай бұрын

Along the lines of what i commented, the “ratings” seem so arbitrary

@hongki92 Ай бұрын

@@n0body550 Oh sorry there man, I didn’t see your comment! Right after they rated the first tactic, I went to the comment section to write this comment

@EstariaValens Ай бұрын

Brian/10 LOL

@danielfersbeanto7942 Ай бұрын

For the first tactic you can see 2 CM and 2 AM make the box midfielder. Winger on support will cover down the line and help in transition with Libero as the overload. That what I tought

@StretfordEndGaz Ай бұрын

first there was pepball, now its brian ball, even sean dyche is ringing him up

@sebzilla89 Ай бұрын

The point about the most interesting tactics coming from necessity is very true. For me that's why the first year of a save is often the most interesting, especially if you turn off first window transfer budgets. You get what you're given and have to make it work.

@brownie62 Ай бұрын

I just wanna say thank you Z. Yesterday I won the Champions League a third time within five years. Your videos helped me a lot. (I play with OGC Nice and I’m currently in preseason 2021/32 for anyone who’s wondering)

@davidgosden5443 Ай бұрын

Fun video - I think it would have been even better if you'd also all actually played a few games with each tactic, then compared notes afterwards to see if it played as you thought it would, but realise that's probably a lot more time consuming

@ii-xz9ui Ай бұрын

i just play WCB with Libero all the time and its pretty defensively stable cause out of posession the libero just plays normally and if your WCBs are actually fast enough it just doesnt have any problems

@schlongomcnugget9428 Ай бұрын

Clayts and Tom on this video goes hard, love the collab

@ashr7307 Ай бұрын

1st tactic is my formation from my Huddersfield save, except I had 2 strikers and 1 AM. Absolutely dominated.

@user-ib3hk7rq3n Ай бұрын

2:45 - funnily enough I'm playing a 5-3-2 with wide centre backs and a Libero. Works most the time with my DM stepping back to fill that gap mentioned however good team can manipulate this gap so usually change the LB to a BPD or standard CB. Helps a lot in hard matches.

@dislexyc Ай бұрын

Well, if you think about the first tactic, the CBs and the GK make a diamond, perfect for creating passing lines to build up from the back

@paulathekoala1699 Ай бұрын

I used a similar 4141 but with a cm as a dlp and it worked great, it was good to see a similar tactic examined here 😊

@wherestheoptoutoptionmfs Ай бұрын

After hundreds, possibly thousands, of hours of tinkering on my tactics over several different careers (my favourite being taking Blyth Spartans from the bottom of the football league to being european champions), I've finally settled on my ultimate tactical set up...a kind of asymettrical 4-1-4-1, with two isomeric forms, which I'd dearly love to submit to your expert analysis but I've no idea how, as I play on the PS5. Nonetheless, it's insanely good, and I'm extremely proud of it :) Love your work, if I can call it that XD.

@adampatterson2682 Ай бұрын

im from Blyth, Croft Park is just down the road from where I live and work haha.

@oldjoe182 Ай бұрын

Feels like Z need to make some video about what is meta and what is not! They all talking so much about what is good THIS YEAR and what is not. I am confused on many details with all those previous tutorials in mind.

@Kopakola732 Ай бұрын

The first tactic is similar to my 3-1-2-3-1 (FM calls it 3-3-3-1 DM Wide) and ive wanted to tweak it a little more for defense, maybe switching a M to a DM. But this one is intriguing. My only issue is wanting to stay away from those players that can only play one side. It's why i eliminated fullbacks. I am less strict with AML/R due to wanting some width but i like my backup to be able to play both

@Derek-qu8qi Ай бұрын

11:47 I loved gung ho. Used whenever I was 3-0 down at half time. Usually with a change to 2-4-4 or 3-3-4 in the old games. Celtic came from 0-3 at ibrox for 3-3 and Partick thistle came from 0-4 to 4-4 at home to raith rovers.

@michaelfarrow5817 18 сағат бұрын

In CM 03/04, you could set the attacking intent of each player and override the team instructions so if you wanted any of the CM/RM/LM/LWB/RWBs to get up and down the field, you had to put them on Gung Ho with their arrow dragged one square backwards. Got me promoted out of the Championship with West Ham.

@moseswilliams1576 Ай бұрын

I have a save with Aberdeen and am using a very similar 4-4-2 tactic. They've been doing very well. Unless you're playing with Celtic or Rangers a 4-4-2 will do well in a Scottish save.

@JoaoVitor-qy3ze Ай бұрын

Oh man, I'm mad I missed the submission, I have a defensive tactic that they wouldn't believe how successful it is. It's a 4-3-3 with balanced mentality, low block and a wide Trequartista. It's truly beautiful to see those counters and the Trequartista magic. This tactic won me the brazilian 2nd division unbeaten with 94 points, won me the Copa do Brasil on the same year, in the next year we won the Copa Libertadores straight away knocking out big teams in every stage and on the 3rd season we are alive in all competitions and leading the 1st division with 53 points in 22 matches.

@lowencraft1404 Ай бұрын

Sounds like a tactical masterclass Or you saved and reloaded

@JoaoVitor-qy3ze Ай бұрын

@@lowencraft1404 No reloads. Before tooking over Mirassol and building this tactic, I was managing a very small brazillian team, achieving 2 promotions in 4 seasons from the 5th tier to the 3rd tier and constant relegation fights on the state championship. Never won or even fought for a trophy before tooking over Mirassol. Things clicked with this tactic and the team. Save scumming takes away all the fun of these achievements.

@W417on Ай бұрын

That 442 was missing all defenders to be no nonsense, thats a shame

@amethyphoenix Ай бұрын

That would make it better defensively, yes, but Brian has the right idea with his 4-4-2, you can't deny the man that.

@christopherbuehl4373 Ай бұрын

Love that Forward Madison kit. Truly you are a man of culture.

@conky83 Ай бұрын

I remember "Gung ho". Maybe from FM2014 or earlier. Not 100% sure from where I saw and used it though.

@cliffhamilton5075 Ай бұрын

i believe stinger did a video about half back with take more risks can pull some really nice build up passes if they have the right stats but that may of been for FM 23

@nickcaesar5833 Ай бұрын

That last tactic is godly

@tywinlannister2137 Ай бұрын

Brian is amazing, bring back the 4-4- DUCKING 2!!

@waynehewitt8206 Ай бұрын

Why do I think this is Tom and Clayts auditioning for the network game.

@W417on Ай бұрын

I want a draft league. Games played/streamed every Saturday at 3pm to compete with soccer Saturday

@sandergaasbeek5978 Ай бұрын

Don't give me hope...

@CompletelyCr Ай бұрын

Tom, Clayts, Z and Kev? Yes please.

@ianrae1546 Ай бұрын

Brian is an absolute legend 😂 That is a true, old school 442. I applaud you sir 👏🏻

@ollieduracell Ай бұрын

As a Colchester fan, I think we need this formation to sort us out right now. Also, we need to sign Endrick on loan clearly

@DaMarrsBar Ай бұрын

Zealand-TomFM collab? Fantastic!

@hugobatista9541 Ай бұрын

CM on Attack is still great. I have been using it to great results with Chaves in the Second and First Division of Portugal and then the Championship and Premier League with Conventry.

@pedroparker2743 Ай бұрын

Brian out of Ten. Brilliant.

@jackharmeling7947 Ай бұрын

need to see a mustermann collab with his editing style. makes the best vids on fm for sureee

@Mythriak_ Ай бұрын

Have played with 2WCB + Libero and can confirm: There's a HUGE gap in the middle of your defense, if your keeper is not Neuer or Allison, you'll have trouble, and even then, it will hurt you against very quick strickers. That said, if your team is good enough, you will probably score more than the other team. I fixed it by playing a BPD on cover or defense. Also, a Half-Back DM works amazingly with the 2WCBs.

@tabletbrothers3477 Ай бұрын

If you tell a player to "take more risks" that just means they'll put in more through balls

@JohnnyRadovic85 Ай бұрын

Brian has bent the fabric of spacetime

@ianluck9412 Ай бұрын

Brian/10 My new favorite rating for anything

@Thatguyinyourclass Ай бұрын

4-4-2 reminds me of my school days. We only ever used a 4-4-2. Good ole days

@cynical-_-bunny7399 Ай бұрын

Everyone should be like Brian.

@thedemonscath Ай бұрын

The main tactic I've been using, with slight variations on the roles, is the 4-1-4-1. I have yet to find a single save / team that it has not worked. It is dominating FM24! Straight up promotions all the time!

@SomPrince Ай бұрын

Idea for the next video try some of these formations marking the lb using your winger with a high work rate helps shut down teams who cross alot

@jxcobxw3557 Ай бұрын

Used a 433 striker-less formation this year and it’s acc incredible. SK got 24 clean-sheets and won the Italian league/ Cup and the UCL

@simplesimonhadapie Ай бұрын

The first is almost the same as mine but i use to dm's and twp wing backs and it's very solid. I also use a libero but to replace the volante when pushing forwards. I also would point out that with the players at the front the ball will go long from clearing and the libero will recycle the ball. The two wcb's dont go that wide depending on team position but i got Gibraltar side europa point to the champions league last 16 and Gibraltar to the worlds top 100 with donkeys

@kingbuzzo15 Ай бұрын

I remember Gung ho. Also I remember when you could give win bonuses before a match in Champ Manager

@georgikolev8700 Ай бұрын

1st one is actually used quite a lot by Pep (at some point of the game) last few years

@nicholasnugent1123 Ай бұрын

Ran a similar tactic to the ARSE 4141. I used a DLP instead of a DM , wingers on cut inside with one on attack and one on support, and an AP on support instead of AM. I won the seria A 4 times in a row with a europa league and 4 domestic cups at inter. In game when you use high pressing with 4141 like this the positional play overloads the opponent as soon as the ball is turned over.

@Davidbaratunk Ай бұрын

Hi! I sent in that tactic, and you're totally right. The toels for the DM and the two AM's were set to that because of the players I had available, and because I wanted different roles, so that I could incorporate players with different skills. And yeah, I forgot to mention that a lot of goals come from the opponent losing the ball in the middle of the pitch (often because one of the AM's are tackling back) and then the attackers just go forward like a swarm. usually one player gets the ball down the wings and by that point you often have 4 players crashing the box.

@OverseerVizier Ай бұрын

@@Davidbaratunk any link for this tactic?

@Davidbaratunk Ай бұрын

@@OverseerVizierI haven't uploaded it anywhere, but I can if you'd like. It is actually fairly simple, as most of the info can be seen in this video. As others have said, the shape is a really good base, and then you just tinker with the roles

@Mrajs360 Ай бұрын

@@Davidbaratunk would be great if you could, or potentially just break down the specific roles/instructions you've given. Just trying to make my own mock up of this and I'm assuming everyone is like that SS and has close down more/tackle harder? It was the only way I could get the intensity that high lol

@OverseerVizier Ай бұрын

@@Davidbaratunk if you can upload it please that'd be really helpful. I'm new to the game and a template to tinker with will help a bunch. thanks in advance!

@shrimp99991 Ай бұрын

I've run the 4-1-0-4-1 before, except with an RPM and two shadow strikers, it's an unstoppable formation at all levels. You can legitimately score 5 goals per game.

@tonyguyan9559 Ай бұрын

Embrace the Brian! A tactic very much in my heart as I’m playing something similar in my AFC Crewe save and like Brian I’m clueless with tactics and I’ve no idea how’s it’s working as I’m as defensive and basic as that tactic with all my defenders and two DM’s on defend duty but for some reason I’m blowing teams away.

@anardi7112 Ай бұрын

Claytmunity represent

@GenericZac Ай бұрын

I love all the exotic tacitcs and a 442 named Brian got the highest score. I love this community.

@lindogg9389 Ай бұрын

Would be nice to see games involving this tactic

@bonesknowspod Ай бұрын

That first one, I used to use something similar with James Ward Prowse and jack Wiltshire as the wingers playing on wide midfielder. But this was back in the day way before wide centre backs. Not sure how that would work

@TheRadPlayer Ай бұрын

Bonus points to Brian for playing Elgin City.

@nathanguillaume1247 Ай бұрын

I love seeing TomFM on here!

@GoogleMeAgain Ай бұрын

Gung ho was earlier editions of football manager iirc. Like fm 09 etc

@Steniiis Ай бұрын

Manmarking opposition LB/RB with your wingers have been op for years.... it stops so much threat against you its insane.

@StewartUSAF Ай бұрын

I’m looking to build something like “Brian” for when I get Saint-Etienne up to Ligue 1. Thinking of renaming that tactic “Agincourt” when I do.

@JohnnyRadovic85 Ай бұрын

Z, Tom and Clayts in a video. This was a pleasant morning, thank you guys

@jonnypeacock3113 Ай бұрын

I rate this video Brian out of 10

@connieeverafter3029 Ай бұрын

That first system of the Harrier Jet absolutely demolishes two striker systems. Outnumbers them all over the pitch, two AM's can pin be used to pin good fullbacks and helped out with winger settings on the wide midfielders, Segundo Volante perfect for man to man presses against and is really solid defensively. Just don't play it against a 4141, you'll get cooked.