CGC's inconsistency is really scary.

It would be interesting to know what the totall value bump was , you spent "X" to submit the 100 books, that where valued at "Y" and after you got them back with the ups and downs the new total value of the 100 books is now "Z" .. so Z - X = your potential overall net profit from the exercise. This was a great entertaining piece of content , btw.. thanks!

The amount of grades that changed was crazy. Some of those jumps were troubling. I don't know how they can misgrade the book that bad. Makes me hesitant to send books in.

Very interesting and expensive experiment. I recognized years ago that the slabbers are totally inconsistent. I first submitted books around 2003. Back then CGC had some credibility, was reasonably priced and typically got books back in six weeks. Then along came CBCS. Both graders quickly became equally erratic and terrible. I haven’t submitted any books to be plasticized in over 2 years. Instead, I have sold off many slabs and cracked open many in my pc. I’m much happier with raw books. I spent 25+ years owning comic shops and using Overstreet grading guidelines. Henceforth, that’s what I’m doing every time. To the devil with CGC, CBCS and PGX.

I find these types of videos pretty entertaining. Definitely should do more of these.

“Maybe I’ll be dead and you’ll never see this video”. Lol. Funny and dark at the same time.

That xmen 266 from a 9.6 and trying for a 9.8 and comes back a 7.0? Did you see what the grader notes were?

I really really enjoyed this video. Watching some of the grade drops makes me feel better about my purchasing lower 9 grades instead always shooting for the 9.8. Thanks for all your hard work editing and putting together this video. Well done! 😊

Shocking to see how grades vary for the same comic!! It all goes to show you the grading process is mostly subjective. I wouldn’t be surprised if the grader flips a coin to decide to go half point up or down. I feel CGC needs to eliminate so many grade points and just have only five different grading numbers. It’s way to chaotic in determining the grade of a comic. Very informative content Dave! 👏👏👏👍

Great video, appreciate the editing work

don't forget to send in the old grader tags to keep the census more accurate. every little bit helps the community.

I really enjoyed this video and found it fascinating… and troubling. The swings in grade are just crazy in some cases, particularly with no re-press in between. I appreciated that you did not re-press the books, for the sake of the experiment, but if it was me, I would feel like that was leaving money on the table. Also, it really bugs me tbh that you don’t send your old labels back in; if not with this submission then separately or with a future submission. I think everyone should do this, for the integrity of the census, but particularly with someone doing as much volume as you do, and with as big of a platform as you have.

First, I do truly enjoy watching this video. My issue is that doing this does ultimately make the census completely unreliable on an EPIC level. When calculating the fair market value, many rely upon the census as part of the equation. Again, I appreciate and respect your experiment and the outcome, but I can’t help but wonder how the census is even remotely accurate or worthwhile anymore. Thoughts? I am kinda sad with the loss of this resource when assessing fair value… I really hope you don’t take this personal! I enjoy you and your channel tremendously! Sorry but thank you kindly for your awesome content!!! ❤

That was a ton of fun to watch. Thanks my man

Amazes me that the time and cost of resubmission would make it (potentially) worth it (with a lot of them). Really interesting vid. Wonder if CGC will see this as a good or bad thing. Pretty consistent but those big swings in grade on a couple can't be good.

Man, this video is awesome. Yeah, making a seperate quick video to look at potential profit margin after resubmitting the 100 would be pretty cool. This was an excellent video.

Great Video! So anyone who puts faith in the CGC grade should think about this... ANYTIME a highly experienced person (as you certainly are) gets a grade that's lower than they think it should be on a big book, they're going to crack it and resubmit... and they're more than likely to get the grade "corrected"... Right? Sounds reasonable... but here's the flip side... every time such a person gets a grade that is higher than it should be... They do a happy dance and they sell it based on the grade that's too high. So... what that means is that the grade that collectors see on a big book is either accurate, or a little high (because it was accurate or too high in the first place, or it's over-stated (in the case where they got lucky and didn't resubmit). So, as more and more people have big books cracked and re-graded that they think are under-graded, the AVERAGE CGC grade on big books are actually over-stated - they will tend to skew too high because of the ones that are over-graded are accepted as is. Simple math. Collectors should keep that in mind when buying a big book that they can't hold in their hands and be happy about themselves. And collectors who aren't experts shouldn't be buying big books based on the CGC grade without a consultant - because the grade (which creates the price) isn't necessarily accurate (it may be over-stated by a lot). You only submitted books that you thought were UNDER-graded. Right? Had you put aside every "gift grade" you got over the past 2 years, you'd probably have gotten 69 downgrades. CGC grades are not adequate indicators of value. But great video.

Amazing video! Thanks for the effort and insight!!

Great video! Appreciate the amount of work that went into it. Would be interesting to hear what CGC said about it all!

That had to be so much work! Thanks for this, really enjoyed it!

I really enjoyed this video! I know you must have busted your rear end editing, but it was worth it for the viewing pleasure. Do it again, please!❤

This enforces my belief every book exists in a range. Most went up a grade (4.5-5.0 or 7.5-8.0) and to me that also speaks to CGC consistency which is a good thing. The ones that came back same obviously are probably maxed out and he one that dropped a grade well you lucked out getting the higher or their range originally. The ones that bear investigation are the ones going from 7s to 9s with no work done. Or down the same way. That Xmen 266 needs some explaining. My guess is the Mario was graded by a rookie who didn’t know about the printing flaw that can exist on that book

That was a awesome video man. Thank you for taking the time to put that out.

Love the cuts from .. OLD Dave -to- NEW Dave .. I was cracking up. BTW, happy you didn't die!

Amazing video! Thank you for taking the time to post this video and all the editing. Keep uo the great work and video content.

Interesting video. Do you plan on sending in a batch of cgc labels to them so they fix the census?

I laughed so hard when you jumped from a new t-shirt to maybe I'll dead. (Slight differences there Davo.) 😂

back in 1999 ebay was rampant with sneaky dealers and in 2001 cgc came out as a third party grading service to level the playing field for buyers and put sellers on notice that over grading was looked down upon. I would never have thought I would be watching a video on reslabbing comics so u can have a grade increase good video lol

This just shows that "professional" grading isn't so professional. Having graded comics for 30 years, I fully admit that grading is as much art as science. However, there is no excuse for jumps from 7.5 to 9.6, or a drop from a 9.6 to a 7.0. This means you can't count on that slabbed 9.8 you are paying for being any better than an 8.0. It could be anything and you are paying a huge premium! I stand my grading being within +/- one half-grade if I grade it once or 100 times. There shouldn't be any more variance than that with a "professional" grading company grading the same book.

Great video, really enjoyed this one

can't you send the cracked labels back to CGC so they can remove them from the census? That way there won't be two 7.5s of the Fighting Man Annual.

Sometimes when you go to a restaurant your portion of fries are way bigger than usual and your burger tastes better, because someone decided to hook you up by putting on an extra patty, extra tomato and more pickles on it . But sometimes they burn the burger and forget your fries.

Love to see how CGC and CBCS compare in consistency.

Great video. One of your best.

Dude awesome experiment. It took A TON of work though! I get batches back where I can tell the grader was having a bad day...

excellent thanks for the hard work you do on these videos

Good segment! Keep these resubmit shows going.

As I understand it, you must mail the old labels to CGC to update the registry. Did you keep the old labels?

It’s frustrating when the grade goes down. I had one that went from 9.0 to 8.5 and 9.6 to 9.2

Congrats on most of those grades Dave🙂 I am so happy for you 🙂

just curious, does this mess with the census numbers? For example on the fighting man comic you said theres only a few in that grade. is now there another? or do you let them know after that the origional cracked one got replaced?

This is inspiring. I have a few books I don't agree with and think I'll resend. 8.5-9.8 though, crazy.

I always send the blue labels back in another shipment after my re-grades come back. Just in case there is a rule where they compare the two. Tin foil hat style.

Hi David love the video as always man.I really hope you reply to this.I am going to on Collectors Comics for the first time tonight.Does every seller on Collectors Comics ship Internationally. Maybe if I buy of any seller then Collectors Comics Ships on behalf of the seller.I really have been struggling now for 7 months now with those ridiculous Ebay restrictions to South Africa. Really appreciate the help David.

I don't wanna know how much editing that was😂

Great video. I hope to see more of these.

Amazing!!! Nicely done.

This video makes me want to go thru my slabs again. There have been many comics I've submitted that I really thought were under graded. This vid makes me think I should give resubbing a try.

Great video. Gratz on your triumphs.

This my favorite vid ever!! You can return old labels so they can update the census.

I definitely appreciate seeing the results from this and the afterwards data from it. I do larger submissions to cgc a few times a year and this is also something I've considered doing when I don't agree with the graders notes or grades assigned to books I've submitted.

Great job in production presentation and must have taken a long time to put together. I enjoyed watching this despite the annoying background music so Thanks for going thru this experiment which we all think of doing at some point.

Cool video man I like how you did it seems like a lot of work, good job

What the heck went wrong with xmen 266!? Geez that's a big drop. Was there damage from cracking the slab?

Thanks4 making this vid... it just shows the inaccuracies and inconsistent grading from a 3rd party company... from the grades u received, 2even u pointing out that the census is messed up from people CPR graded books... I'm not against slabbing books, by any means. Especially 4preservation purposes. But this vid is an eye opener 4sure. Thx David 👍

It all depends on the mood of the grader. There is little that prevents resins from bouncing grades. If you have the time & money just keep subbing 9.6s.

This was a fun video to watch. Thanks!

THEY HAVE BROKEN A COMIC FOR ME, WHEN THEY HAVE PRESSED IT AND NO ONE TAKES RESPONSIBILITY😢😢

Awesome video, very much enjoyed it. Dave I would love a video of you grading books before ypu send them. You are very good at rough grading, would love to see what you look for and how your process for grading the way you do. I shall call you Sensei Dave. Lol😅. Teach us hacks the way of the grading force

Amazing video and demonstrates the vagaries, but also, some of the consistency of the CGC grading system. Like you said, these were hand picked because you would grade them differently. Do you think the overall cost of resubmitting these hundred books was worth the gain, and occasional lost, in value? lol, I'm sure it was as there was $2300 value chage just in the Doom book. Nice work.

Great video, very entertaining. Nice job on your grading skills.

This is the same general concept that if you don’t like what “they” say, hang up and try again with a different person…retail games haven’t changed much.

Congrats on all the bumps!

WOW! 69 out of 100 got a bump! Shows you know what you're doing. Great video!

*_This is what happens when a company pays people $15/hour._* *_This is disturbing to see. A great video, but it is disturbing that there were so many grade changes that spanned several grades bumps._* *_Going from a 3.0 to a 3.5 is not that "insane", but that one jump of 6 grades up and the other one down so much really makes me wonder._* *_What's missing here is the total value before and after. I can just look this all up, we all can, so why not just say what it is?_* *_I wonder how many more of the books would have gotten a grade bump if they were pressed and lightly cleaned(if needed). There was a 70% improvement in grades as is._*

A professional grading service shouldn’t have to depend on the mood of the grader. They just have zero standards or consistency, but at least they sure can charge a lot for amateur grading.

If i had the money I'd buy all the ones that got downgraded. They probably look a LOT nicer than the assigned grade.

I enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing

I’m here on behalf of CGC, thanking you for wasting your money and providing us with the additional profit.

Fantastic video David! Informative and funny, your dialogue to future you was hilarious! Takeaways, it is important to know how how to grade to spot the times CGC makes a human error and then resubmit when we disagree with them. I am certain, many of your viewers who got slabs back where they disagreed with the grade will be going to look at them closely. Cheers!...:)

Wow...Awesome brother. Sure wish I could grade that well. I always end up between 8.5-9.6

Interesting video and a credit to your grading ability.

Dave. I’ve got about a dozen I need you to look at that I’d love to know if I should resubmit. You could have a business just doing that. 😂 Great video, keep up the good work.

So glad I don’t need the opinion of a stranger to enjoy my paper products.

My favourite type of video

I think as someone who has hundreds of graded books, that feels very hopeful. I have a ton of 9.6s that i can't believe they were lower than that. However, why grade and pay the money if the variation is so ridiculous. Thousands are lost on this and it is not fair to the collector

Love this idea for a post! I always wanted to send a group of 9.8 pre-screens that didn't make the cut the first time and see if some received 9.8 the second go around?

This is why I don’t grade. Too much inconsistency based on which grader you get. I wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally graded low periodically because they know people will resubmit.

I am new to collecting and already can’t believe how subjective the grading is. One thing I will be glad transitions to AI someday. At least then they’ll be more consistency.

I’m at the beginning of the video and I think that this will be very eye-opening.

Crazy video love it

Very cool video

Yes, some shockers. Need to compare grader notes. Pleasantly surprised how the lower to mid grades come back within 0.5 or 1.0 of original, as that range seems much more subjective in nature.

I think the only time you actually "lost" was when the grade dropped. When you get the same grade back, it's a tie.

On high value books do you use a 3rd party for CPR? Sending another box of 9 tomorrow for auction There's a Nice GA Cap #72

Dave: who knows if they'll even pay attention to that note Narrator: they didn't.

Honestly cgc grading has been ridiculous lately especially when it comes to 9.8 candidates… I’ve gotten a bunch of 8.5-9.4 and the books have had no defects and no graders notes

This is impressive work. I have a copy of Uncle Scrooge #36 in a 9.6. Labeled OW Pages and slight staple rust but it wasn't graded since 2009. Thing is, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. I see no defects to the cover as far as I can see. Really tempted to resubmit but nervous it might drop.

What were the grader notes on the one that dropped from 9.6 to 7.0? That seems like a crazy drop.

It's great to see you got most of the bumps you wanted but the question I have is shouldn't you be sending the old blue labels back so that the census is correct?

Thanks for sharing all of the results. Crazy swings! So did you do anything to them after cracking out? Re-press? And did you send them in under the "resubmit" option? What is that option and would it have given any better results? Thanks!

Great video!! I’m curious did cgc give you grader notes for the Xmen 266?!? Because 2.6 grade point difference is crazy!! Like a 9.6 and a 7.0 present totally different!

im here for the thumbnails

Just look at the graders notes … oh that’s right …

Wouldn't it be interesting to know who the grader was each time? Especially on the big jumps and downgrades. Grader vs grader lol.

So grading doesn’t mean crap and the census is completely wrong, got it

Overall the grades were consistent because grading is subjective. Great video possibly the best for ppl learning about why grading is not a perfect science.

Do u send back the old label & let ‘em know for the census? I wouldn’t lol

I can understand grades moving (up or down) by 1.0 or 0.50... but to see a grade go from 9.6 to 7.0 (X-Men), 8.5 to 9.8 (Swamp Thing), 4.5 to 6.5 (Capt America), 7.5 to 9.6 (Super Mario Bros)... that's a clear indication that something is wrong at CGC. Seems to me it would be more accurate, more consistent to have a computer do the grading. Have multiple images of the cover taken at multiple angles (to identify every imperfection), have the software count up the spine ticks, folds, centering, moisture damage, etc, and let the software issue the grade. A human would still be needed to check the interior for missing/loose pages, cutouts, writing, etc... but covers should be done by computer.

Great video. Graphic on the Star Wars 68 was wrong. You did get the 9.4.