What sucks is I feel like they won’t think about reworking hyper-charge until they are all out for all the brawlers, which looks like it will take a while if they are planning on only doing 6 an update.

Hypercharge needs to be reworked, people are just finding broken metas with it. At least make a quest to get it, like "Defeat 100 enemies with (insert brawler here) and then win 20 battles"

Nubbz’s first idea, helps me not have to kill myself just trying to click both hypercharge and super at the same time… ☠️

I agree with the stuff that has been said 100%. Though a separate button is not an issue, In fact - it kind of gives an opportunity to detach HC from super and modify something else like amo or spawnable shape, etc. The reason I liked the idea of HC to start with is that it could allow good players to carry better (like a buff you get for playing well), but as of now HCs like that of Edgar do the exact opposite.

I actually had a really similar idea to your first idea. With supers that could get overcharged it be really cool to see far more variety with them, which is what hypercharges should've done. So once the super is charged you can start 'overcharging' it but if you use your super before hand it'll still save the overcharge progress for when you have another super. Overcharging would also effectively need you to charge 2 supers while having a super active, this is to give incentive to still use a super when needed. I had a bunch of cool concepts for these overcharges like if bull were to super he could change directions mid super, spikes super would bounce a short distance being able to hit enemies along the way and so on and so forth. Not saying my ideas are good or balanced but they are certainly original and creative instead of just 'bigger'. Hypercharges are currently just skill-less wasted potential

Sound good but I just want to say that with the second idea; they will probably need to change the name hypercharge because there is pretty much no “charging” involved

Actually , your second idea is pretty good beside one thing. If the super needed is different for every single brawler, then when all brawler has hypercharge and you need to memorize exactly how much cycle it needed ( so you get advantage knowing your enemy cycle). And i feel like nerfing the stat buff when all/most brawler has hypercharge will be a good idea, since you will buy hypercharge for the super instead of the stats.

3:30 Good idea, but that would also be kinda broken with Edgar because of his gadget and the +1 gadget gear. They would have to nerf the gadget or replace the gadget. You could also make the Edgar super-hyper charge not as good as other brawler’s hyper charge.

Both of these ideas are pretty good, tho I think I'd prefer "overcharging" the super since it seems a bit easier to understand

i think the first idea works well, but some fixes would make it better IMO: There will be a orange + a purple ring around the super button and both will charge the same way they are now. When the purple and orange ring finish, the hypercharged super begins. tap it, and then the hypercharged super is used. No stat boosts, none of that. just a powered up super that (if used effectively) completely demolishes the other team

In my opinion, hypercharge is a really cool mechanic. Ya i agree to the fact that those brawlers who doesn't have hyperchage gets suppressed easily, but once all hypercharges will get out, it will be fine.

The second one can’t work because you don’t always want to use a hyper charge super what if you were a Collette and a Edgar jumps on you and have to use your super to save you but your saving it for a heist safe and you have to waste it then no more %25 damage to the safe

I doubt they're ever going to fully rework hypercharges, maybe a few tweaks. But not a full rework. And I have heard from friends that the game actually feels too simple, so the argument of the hypercharge button being too complex can be seen the other way around. I personally think hypercharges are okay as they are, but the stats across all hypercharges should be nerfed and we need more unique hypercharges and reworks to the bad ones. I am pretty sure once every brawler has a hypercharge, they'll be fine.

Another Idea: -Remove stat boost -remove the hypercharge button -ring around the super button (like the first idea in the video) -charging it stays the same as what we have right now -when the hyperchrarge finishes charging the super button becomes purple and the next super will be hypercharged

Imagine stu charging his hypercharge

The first idea sounds great, until brawler like Stu, Sam, and Chuck get hypercharges

This fixes nothing, unfortunately, because it doesn't address the main issue. Hypercharges REQUIRE the Super to be useful at all. Unless the brawler benefits the most from stat buffs, they are merely a substitute to buff the main attack. All you've done is show us two ways to condense Hypercharge into one button, which is nice to have, but doesn't balance out the power fantasy brawlers have when they have this ability. Best course of action: Hyper Traits This should fill in the gaps where the stat boosts don't, for brawlers who aren't Super focused. And they don't need to be mondane either; they can be completely unique, like letting Colt fire two streams, letting Pearl's heat meter recover 30% faster or allowing Buzz to swim/hover over water. It's a compromise to those people who want more gameplay options for their favorite brawlers.

Ok so ideas are great i would actrually agree that not using your super and saving for hyper would be the best BUT when supercell created a hypercharge i think they fought of every brawler getting one and there's my problem no matter what idea you pick for a new one it will be worse for every spawner type brawler in the game because even if they find a way to even get 2 per match it will make them wait a long time to wait for the right moment to use them. and there are brawlers like stu or sam or even train guy who relly on their super and i dont even know how they will work but the another button would be needed for them.

I would love if there could only be 1 hypercharge per team on 3v3. Idk how they would do it but it would make it alot more balanced

Honestly I agree, I really ike to see these ideas in game as opposed to the hat we have now.

Concept: in brawl ball, you can use hyper charge to shoot the ball, with the same range using your super to kick , but it can break walls like fire ball

To be honest, I don't agree with much of this video, I do agree hypercharges should get a rework (specially on the status part), the main thing I disagree with is hipercharge sharing a Button with super, most supers are an essential part of their brawler's kit, but hipercharges are NOT, Imagine you are playing Crow, his super is often used to escape sticky situations, but if hipercharges shared the super button, if you have it and you need your super to flee, you HAVE to waste your hipercharge super. Essentially, you want your Super to do 'A', but your hipercharge wants to do 'B'. I honestly think the second rework idea is just a worse implementation of what is already in the game... The first one I think is a lot better though, it still has the "same button problem" but having to maintain your super introduces a very interesting layer of strategy. HOWEVER, brawlers with gimmicky supers could be really weird... I don't see it working on Stu like, at all, unless progress isn't lost upon using your super.

I kinda wish hypercharges were basically similar to abilities for brawler so for example instead of fang dropping popcorn n going through walls for his idk he becomes a thrower n throws popcorn for the hypercharge duration

totally agree supercell should see this

2nd idea is definitely better. I hate having to save up an ultimate. It'll just make the game less fun. That's one of the good parts of the hypercharge button. You don't have to use your hypercharge to use your super.

The super overcharge can be used to basically store 2-3 super based on the charge rate, I think a problem with that would be this. Imagine a shelly with a near full super overcharge using two consecutive supers on you

imo hypercharges are alright and I still find them fun, Probably because I only have like 3 or 4 cant remember so I'm excited to get more and try them out/play w them. Also not a biggest fan of the first idea since the hypercharge would basically replace supers no one would use their super and would just hostage it for a hyper since its just better, basically making supers obsolete. The second idea is def better but I'm still unsure if I'd like that more than what we currently got All in all I feel like everything will be fine once every brawler gets their hypercharge

5:46 *"I SUMMON-"*

When hypercharge came out, I was thinking that it will be the same as your first idea. So Honestly, that's two great ideas, perfect for a balance perspective

I think hypercharge with more ines released and more ways and experience to counter will get less influential. But possily the time to get a hyoercharge can be standardised, like every vrawler say needs to shot an equivelant of 8 full shots. And hypercharge recharge while purple button is active can be standardised. On ine hand piper will have a harder time gettibg a shot but will get more than if a darryl attacked, but darryl can get hypercharge charging easier cuz shits are easier to hit. And idk but getting hyper with gadgets/traits may just need to be reduced

I think the stats buff should be removed or heavily nerfed. Alternatively, each brawler could have 2 out of the 3 star buffs such as speed and shield for Edgar but no damage buff. Useless hypercharges like Pearl's are still good because of the insane stat buffs.

Yeah, the speed is kinda broken but i think that assassin brawlers like edgar or fang should keep it bcoz they are reliant on their mobility. And for fang hypercharge you either should take popcorn or going through walls ability since it is very unfair for throwers or low hp sharpshooters

I feel like out of your two ideas, the first one is definitely the better one. Hypercharges are designed so you can choose when to use them, changing them to a super that happens every number of supers would take that function away. While simple, it takes away the skillful side of Hypercharges. Which is why I like your first idea better. It's simpler, but you can still choose whether to use your super or wait for it to get Hypercharged

I feel that the main problem with hypercharge is that supercell doesn’t want to decrease the price of it for some reason so they can’t nerf all of the hypercharges too much because they won’t be worth 5000 coins

Personally I prefer Hypercharges being a separate button, sometimes the stat boosts are all you need to win a fight. I only have Crow & Shelly's but the stat boosts alone have saved me several times.

The first hyoercharge rework idea is actually pretty damn good I like it, and it doesn’t seem too difficult to implement without changing everything the devs made

I feel a hyped up super as a change would be bad, as it incentivizes the player to just save their super in the hopes of a hyper-charge one, like with grom where his super gives a speed buff from the star power.

For your first idea: that purple sircle keeps the same when super used but is slowly decrising down until you get another super

For the like, rotation style idea (Every 2 or 3, then hypercharge), for characters like Sam and Chuck (Especially Sam), they basically have instant supers , so I don't know how they would balance that. Outside of those 2 though, great idea!

I still think the concept of a button that you press and that makes you very strong is pretty cool. I just think it shouldn’t only change the super but also the main attack

I enjoy it being the same button as the super. I play on a phone which had a tiny screen so it's super awkward trying to use the hypercharge

Imo it is good that brawl stars keeps adding more buttons.

Hypercharges for brawlers like shelly, colt and spike need a rework because they do feel very boring. Keep up the good work nubbz

I feel like what could work is reducing the time the stat boosts last

I think what we have is fine because its supposed to be special so having stats is perfectly fine for me

The first 1 would be so good for brawlers like Pearl where often your saving your super for most of the match

I really like your first concept and a few ideas came to mind straight away Shelly's super could have the range of her 2nd gadget Nita's bear could have a small, faster bany bear You could still shoot during Nani's super, you could basically shoot 1 of Nani's sparks while controlling this super, which is incredibly difficult but only makes Nani more skilled

Love th idea however there are lot of instances where players have their hypercharge but not their super and might benefit in just popping hypercharge just for the stat buffs

I think the ideas are good but I am pretty happy with how it is rn, yes they need a rework but the way the work is something I don’t really have a problem with

Couldn't agree more on all the points made in this video. Also love the ideias you made

i feel like the first idea is better cause makes u hold on to the normal super for a wille before useing it and makes it more interesting. ofc the second idea is also cool cause i count the supers people use to know when the hypercharged one comes but also kinda makes people spam the super so they can charge the next one sooner? idk first idea needs more strategy i feel like.

Also the 2 button problem is also if you get stunned and you click the hypercharge button you dont super its gonna be useless

Hypercharge is balanced, but it’s because only some brawlers have it. I propose a placeholder hypercharge. And make a quest to obtain them, 5 THOUSAND COINS ?!?!

Personally think the current style is better than these ideas, Nubbz said Its too op in Problem#1 and too weak in Problem#3. This literally is a statement for all rpg games including brawl. Problem#5 having a button makes it more complex yet said its just mashing a button to win in Problem#2 Hypercharge makes it so that it wont be useless even when you dont have super for the time being in the game, like poco's Da Capo in showdown. If the hypercharge replaces the og super, you would literally have a disadvantage by being forced to use hc when you just want to use the normal one. It also removes Mico's current strat, using his super at the end of the hc making the most usage out of it

That's what problem the clash royale had with evolutions, i think they should follow the same steps as clash royale and just give brawler some special abilities with no stats buff. If so, out of all stats buffs speed(and maybe shield) is just to unnecessarily chaotic and broken, i feel like if you see someone get hypercharge you should be able to at least avoid them

I would love the second idea to actually be implemented.

I don't think they ever will rework bypercharge as it's not complex at all its just a better super and just stat boosts but I feel like people only say this because there is only a few select brawlers with hypercharge and when everyone has neither would be way more balanced

I really like those ideas! And one thing i also think they should do is to instead of bringing new brawlers every update, have an update every once in a while where they balance the whole damn game (yes, i am aware of how difficult balancing is, but so is making brawler concepts)

Super over guard isn't a bad idea seeing that it'll bring a new meta and use of starpowers like beas where u gain shields off keep her super

hey nubbz rework supers next

The problem with the overcharge mechanic is that the won't know which ability you want to use (you could maybe waste the HC on only 1 kill so that's probably the only problem)

I like the First idea the most, but i think that if a brawler can charge the super by doing something that ISN'T attacking, he can charge the Hypercharge too. But It shouldn't be broken

what i thought about is what are they gonna do for sam if they follow nubbz's idea. still a good idea tho

I love your first idea the most and I really hope they make it happen

I just got mico's hypercharge from legendary drop and then i saw this video recommended

I think it sould be like the first idea but that super and HC charge seperatly. (If you use super HC charge is not gone)

Idk if your aproach is the right one tho. Take for example if you dont wanna use the hypercharged super but you are forced to… or for example… The cycling method, imagine if stu got a hypercharge where he can knockback enemies with his super. It will be good because you have 5 seconds so u can use many super. If it’s just one super it also removes many posibilities… they should just remove stat boosts, rework useless and broken hypercharges and get rid of the 2.5 ult requirement. Every brawlers should get a different amount of shots to get his hypercharge. May it be less or more, just stupid there is a limitation because that gets rid of many possibilities.

the cycling hypercharge idea when it is introduced to Sam & Chuck (there is almost no way to balance that lmao)

well there are times when I just want to use my normal super and save my hypercharged super for the critical situations in matches......so its not a very great idea

Nubbz for your second idea supercharge gears would be broken!

If you look at it the super troops in clash of clash, the evolutions in clash royale and hypercharges in brawl stars all give stat boost. Although they are necessary in coc as the troops also take more space. And so I think removing the stat boosts will also improve evolutions in cr

I love the evolution hypercharge idea

I think that for idea 1 it wouldn’t work very well for brawlers that center heavily on their supers such as Edgar and fang and the game would be pretty unbalanced

Personally, I prefer Super overcharged, and what would be cool would be that you keep the "momentum" mechanic that hypercharges already have and just make it that as long as you are hypercharged, your hypercharge rate would be equivalent to your normal super charge rate

Very Nice ideas, keep this up

The first idea it's really good actually

for the 1st idea the problem is that brawlers who need there super like buzz cant use this well for the second idea brawlers who charge fast supers still will charge it fast

the problem with the second idea is with brawlers like sprout and buzz, who can get their supers in a flash, no effort

Stu be out here having to cycle 10,000 supers before getting hyper-charge

I haven't even bought one yet and we are already trying to rework them good ideas tho

Yea but just imagine sam How would sam work in this way

Really excited for super overpowered STU HYPERCHARGE

Maybe they make it like Clash royale evolution, like how cards needs to be cycled to get the evo And in brwal stars you use the super 2 times for example Shelly the next super is hyper so it's special but it doesn't have the stats

Idk why but I would like if the hypercharge changed the main attack and a small stat boost, and it charges indipendently from the super, like a brawler could charge is super in 4 shots but take 3 for the hypercharge

I feel like the second rework is just the same as it is now except you can’t charge it when you have your super

That's actually sick

I think I like the first idea more, because this will be too easy for brawlers like fang, Edgar, and eventually if Stu gets one. It will just be a recurring problem…. (Talking about the second idea)

I also hate the fact that you can just click the button without having a super and get all the buffs still

if the hypercharge is rework like the evolution in clash royale, then fang hypercharge is basically 4 main attack because of his star power. If he got the popcorn gadget he doesn't even need to attack once. so this is unbalance

I think removing hypercharge button will change use of super because right now people can use just super instead of hypercharge super if they want to save hypercharge for later game but after removing button it won't be possible.

They should do 1 hypercharge update where every single btawler gets an hypercharge and maybe some balance changes and nothing else this would kill the hypercharge meta because every brawler would have an hypercharge

I have one question about the first idea What will happen if someone already have their hypercharge ready and kick a ball using their super?

If the funny purple button is based of the brawlers super charge rate then Stu’s or Chucks funny purple button will be broken.Everyone will be pushing Stu or chuck.

hypercharge cycling exists sam: hold my beer

The only problem both reworks could end up with is with brawlers with multiple forms/supers like sam, bonnie, meg and r-t. How would both sistems work with them?

I really really agreed with what you said and liked your ideas, but I'm just sad because I'm almost sure Suppercell won't look or do it. Recentrly they've been just looking for numbers. When the kid press one buttom and kills the entire team, they stay happy and wastes money to unlock more, wich is why I think they kept the game like that. It's just so sad to see this game I like so much and have been playing since it's release to be in this situation.

Honestly if you overcomplicate the game it'll end up like league of legends where you're stuck contemplating what every ability and buttons do But man do I crave some depth to this game

Honestly I like hypercharge but my only problem with it is that if you don't have a funny purple button, you have a massive disadvantage and many of them are extremely broken

Solution to most of the questions no purple button

I think that instead of giving a new mechanic to super just make to the brawler it self , like mortis hyper charge makes him always long dash , and for the stat boosts I think they should make it less maybe cut in the half but not removed because it takes so long to charge , and please supercell, even if you will not rework hyper charge , just make it has its own charge not just 2.5 super ( it worked on fand and edgar),because some brawlers got a super charge rate nerf because of thier hyper charge, like maisie