I shouldn't have bought this Abandoned Ford Tractor

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Жыл бұрын

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Today on the channel we get into the meat and potatoes of the Ford 861 Diesel tractor rebuild. With so many snags can we persevere and get the motor together?
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@jstorrer1 3 ай бұрын

Only way to restore an old tractor and end up with a small fortune, is to start with a large fortune!! I’m restoring a 1960 1801 industrial, same engine…. Nice work!

@dieseJL 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Good engines they seem

@8978Marty Жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping the old equipment running. Good job!!!

@davidwebb7254 Жыл бұрын

Ps. Old school tip: put small peices hose on rod bolts so less likely to bang on rod sirfice of the crank! When installing pisston

@jazzerbyte Жыл бұрын

Interesting to see how the double function clutch is constructed!

@daleolson3506 Жыл бұрын

That lifter you forced in is a no no

@skycarp2002 Жыл бұрын

My old heart skipped a few beats on that one.

@TENFIDUKE20 10 ай бұрын

Yep as soon as I seen that I was like he's gonna have a sticky lifter or stuck, bent, broke but any rebuilder will tell you we become complacent at times lol

@hh-qc7rp Жыл бұрын

Yes, please on the injection pump. Fascinating stuff. Your patience is admirable.

@dylantrimble799 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoy all your videos, can’t wait for the paint vid. Keep up the great work

@richardmiller5238 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed! Good job!

@stevenhanding554 Жыл бұрын

Its kool that u do this stuff. I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up

@frankmcnish8489 Жыл бұрын

Great video ,I have 3 super major I still use on the ranch for moving irrigation reels they are great

@danielernest8547 Жыл бұрын

Good job man.

@markparker2873 11 ай бұрын

great video and i would like to see more updates please! 🙂👍

@CantKillMe Жыл бұрын

I have a shop by me that could fix that OEM crankshaft he's good at what he does but that's good you got it fix and getting it back together

@justinjdavis79 Жыл бұрын

Nice job!! Love these old tractors

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Military-Museum-LP Жыл бұрын

Great video, great series.

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

Always use NEW ROD BOLTS, replace the bolts, and test to see if they need to be resized , yes they will need to be removed, but I'd definitely replace rod bolts

@ianmoone2359 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Conrod bolts are “once off use” bolts. Definitely never to be used a 2nd time. They are actually called “torque to yield” bolts. They are designed to stretch to a point beyond which, they shrink back to their original length once used. So in essence they are stretched when torqued the first time the engine is assembled, and when disassembled they don’t shrink back to their original length. When you try to use them the second time, being already stretched, the original torque specs are enough to cause them to yield and snap or strip. And if you te-use them and they do torque up, it will be a lot higher torque than originally and they risk snapping under load when the engine is running. So older mechanics, who are used to rebuilding these older Ford 4 Cylinder wet sleeved engines in the Ford N9 (Ferguson TEA 20 motors, know that you can’t re-use the big end caps bolts. In a lot of respects it’s lucky that those ones did break on you, because it highlights this exact problem. Hopefully you were able to obtain replacements for them all, because otherwise you run the risk the old ones that remained may snap on you in use, which would be a real shame.

@kevinfrerichs8589 Жыл бұрын

Looking real good,

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@paulbrainard5876 8 ай бұрын

Good job! I enjoy your videos! Keep it up!

@dieseJL 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

@lawrencelipon8673 6 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👌Absolutely amazing!!!

@WaynesAdventure 2 ай бұрын

Awesome

@kenpenry6597 Жыл бұрын

Sure enjoyed your video thank you

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!!

@vcurtis2061 Жыл бұрын

Nice project

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hopefully it turns into a nice tractor haha

@lifeafterourloss Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting oil seal. Almost wonder if it would work better to just pump that slot with silicone. I'm sure there is a good reason for that style.

@rustygoldworkshop4672 Жыл бұрын

Great job. You’re doing great. Some time it gets overwhelming, I’m a field mechanic so I know how it gos. At least your in a shop.. I know you do stuff n the field too, I seen you videos. 😁😁

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah working in the ac on this one is nice lol

@92nbush 9 ай бұрын

Just found this channel i have a 871 diesel select-o-speed i bought at a auction a few years back good running machine very fuel efficient only problem is the trans has issues im debating on swaping it over to a manual. Probably will repaint it at that point. I had a 841 i repainted in high school. Great tractors lots of power for the size

@dieseJL 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I just fired mine up finally. Excited to use it!

@DK-vx1zc Жыл бұрын

Brings back memories for me.. I bought a "bargain" 860 for $600, had to put another $3000 into it. Ran great, but not the "bargain" I hoped for.. :)

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Gas or diesel?

@DK-vx1zc Жыл бұрын

@@dieseJL gas

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

I wish this was a gasser right about now haha

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

I'd be really tempted to just buy a 4bt swap it in there! Call it a Cummings tractor! Or a 4-53 Detroit, put a GMC badge on it!! 👍

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

The series isn’t done yet 🤣🤣

@elainecessna929 11 ай бұрын

I have no words

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

I'd check out scat, see if they make a crank for it! And port the oiling system, radius any sharp turns, remove restrictions, look into improved oil pumps. Seems it can use the help, why lon earth do they use Soo many rings? Only a bell has more rings!! 😆, Maybe look into a oil cooler, atleast gauges . to be sure the pressure and Temperature is correct! But a turbo and a T-5 in a truck 👍

@dougdier3104 Жыл бұрын

Yes, you shouldn't have to drive in the lifters

@toddsculley2710 Жыл бұрын

That crank is fine it’s a tractor not a race truck

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

Man I was so on the fence

@user-mh2wn4ie8q Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍Нестоит так ложиться под висячий двигатель, техника безопасности должна быть безопасной. Удачи и успехов. 🤝😉

@dennislaws5187 3 ай бұрын

You should wash a block after coming from machine shop before putting parts in it. plus cleaning out the galleries in the block, you left lots of grit and dirt in that block,

@dantimber Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. I wish I had your skills!

@stan525 11 ай бұрын

isn't that rough spot on the crank in line with the oil holes and do the bearings have a center relief that lines up with it, if so just clean/file it smooth so it wont cause bearing damage and run it. remember all mechanical things wear in before the wear out

@leemontoya8028 2 ай бұрын

On my ford 1510 the Connecting rod bolts are 20 lbs torque

@karenkartz3163 Жыл бұрын

That crankshaft is junk! You don't check with a hammer. Rust pits if not deep will polish . Crankshaft are magnifluxed not hit with a impact

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

And a impact on rod bolts?? 😮

@TENFIDUKE20 10 ай бұрын

Yep as soon as I seen that I was like he's gonna have a sticky lifter or stuck, bent, broke but any rebuilder will tell you we become complacent at times lol

@robertchryssikos1006 11 ай бұрын

Hello I am a first time and I want to see more

@rogerspohn7938 Жыл бұрын

It would have been nice to see how you sealed the sides of the rear main seal. I have had people said they filled it with silicone. Otherwise good job of showing repair procesd.

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

I used the felpro seal and used generous amounts of rtv with it. I did not use the metal pins with it. amzn.to/3reBdPe

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

You or someone should put that engine or a similar one in a ranger or explorer, adapted to a T-5

@motorhead4003 11 ай бұрын

Did you rebuild the water pump? or was it still good.

@bamadave6324 6 ай бұрын

I went thru the bolt stripping thing with a cheap chinese torque wrench. Ended up spendin $200 on a USA brand well worth it.

@dieseJL 6 ай бұрын

Yeah maybe I should check that 🤔

@BeerWineandShine 4 ай бұрын

What did you use to strip the paint off tractor

@sergueiothonucci1638 11 ай бұрын

💪

@russwabuda1556 Жыл бұрын

i think you're right. i know this will take longer, but i would not use that crank either. time is the biggest element next to your conscience. would you use that tractor. would you sell that tractor. not with that crank. good for you. best wishes

@jtapper6109 2 ай бұрын

Is that a metric stump?

@cristianomikos2515 7 ай бұрын

Tenho um Ford trator 600 .com motor adaptado do trator Ford 8 BR perkin d4203 . 8 BR é a linha 800 do EUA 4 marchas e reduzida .que entendi por ser tão parecida a mecânica

@karenkartz3163 Жыл бұрын

Who ever did your sleeves didn't chamber the bores that's why you had so much trouble putting in your piston.

@MrDeancoote 9 ай бұрын

Could you keep it naked un painted just sprayed with old oil and diesel ?

@dieseJL 9 ай бұрын

I like paint 🤣

@sergijezagorac4281 Жыл бұрын

you didn't check crankshaft thrust bearing clearance

@eastpointer1304 9 ай бұрын

Curious on why you had resleeved. I have 1957 800 gas it has sleeves. The 1958 and up gas and diesel engines do not have sleeves. I had mine bored oversize it was cheaper and easier than changing the sleeves. Was your block worn too much to rebore?

@dieseJL 9 ай бұрын

They don’t make oversized pistons for a diesel

@eastpointer1304 9 ай бұрын

That really sucks , maybe not as much demand as the gas not sure of the numbers but the diesels are a lot less common than the gas. They were supposed to be the cheapest priced diesels at the time. oversize pistons are usually the same casting just left bigger when they are turned to finish. That makes me think twice about buying one @@dieseJL

@dieseJL 9 ай бұрын

It’s honestly just as cheap as boring. Every rebuild kit you can buy includes sleeves. I think with block machine work and a rebuild kit i was in $1100

@zillobeast5257 7 ай бұрын

@@dieseJL im hoping you include total prices at the end of the series, best tractor restoration ive seen on youtube or tv so i guess best ive ever seen haha

@zaneturner4478 Жыл бұрын

You are supposed to install the side seals on the rear main cap before you install it in the block and there are pins that are super to be installed after you set the cap in and before you torque it. That crankshaft should have never been machined it was junk when it was pulled out . A good machine shop would have told you that instead of taking your money .

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I really struggled with them. Thanks for the tip!!

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

This looks a bit like a A model engine,

@JamesJohnson-kw9gh Жыл бұрын

Just what is the torque on the rod bolts it sure seemed you were pushing hard on those bolts and they shodnt be much more than 40 foot pounds .

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

50, it definitely seems like a lot haha

@leemontoya8028 2 ай бұрын

On my 86 ford 1510 it calls for 20 lbs for the connecting rod bolts!

@skycarp2002 Жыл бұрын

Invest in an engine stand.

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

I need one for 3406’s lol

@jimthomas1989 Жыл бұрын

BUILT FROD TUFF ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

@patrickswagger Жыл бұрын

DUDE ?

@garygudmunson6766 Жыл бұрын

If that motor goes away put f85 V8 in it

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

As long as it’s a diesel lol

@glennmoreland6457 Жыл бұрын

Did you clean that block yourself first before assembly...? Never assume it's clean from someone else's workshops... ☹🇬🇧

@dieseJL Жыл бұрын

They tanked it and all. But you are right I assumed they did a good job 😶😶😶

@Onemanstrash1 Жыл бұрын

no oil , yet rubber gloves....

@slo3337 11 ай бұрын

There is a 4 letter warning that you neglected "Ford"

@tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын

Most important rule when assembling an engine, "NO CORDLESS IMPACT WRENCHES". You can't tell thread quality 😕 Please find a mechanical mentor. Don't give up 👍

@markg4233 Жыл бұрын

Amazed there is no surface rust for sitting around for months. Awesome job…

@simonfazackerley8131 Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry mate but you should hang up your tools before you kill anymore engines. You don't have the skills or the common sense to stop when it feels wrong

@natfunk5992 5 ай бұрын

First thing you should do is clean it again. Can't trust the machine shop.

@davidwebb7254 Жыл бұрын

Just Saying had a machine shop ruin a complete motor overhaul by takeing to much off 1 rod cap! , werid part is should’ve trust that dude after he said thought never going to get cap inside sirfave round!. End result was after dropping over $500.00 in the motor! Throw that rod thru the block! ! Completely waste of money & time! The hood of that is that machine shop no longer in business! Out the money! No longer having enough money for new block ! End up saleing whole car for scrap! Shows there are people who say that know what they doing but don’t!!

@leemontoya8028 2 ай бұрын

It's not a Motor! it's a Engine!