alright colour me perplexed i knew gen one and 3 had megas but i didnt know about serperior emboar and samarot having megas

If it was underwhelming people would forget it exists, like they did with gates to infinity lmao

Explorers definitely could be said to have set a high bar in for an epic adventure. There also is probably a level of nostalgia that plays into it. Gates suffered from following it up (heck, Time and Darkness even get less recognition primarily because of the special episodes in Sky, despite having the same story), but it and Super are both good games in their own rights (Honestly I think one of the bigger downsides to Gates was the inability to do multiple missions per dungeon run). I mean, I think there are things they do even better than Explorers in both story and gameplay. All the PMD games have been great, emotional, and fun, to me.

I played super first and enjoyed it more than explorers.

Nah PSMD is the BEST game ever made Tbf it‘s the first pmd game I ever played so maybe I have a bit prejustice

@@neroclaudiuscaesaraugustus Same boat here my friend.

I remember sacred ruins being absolute hell to get through. I tried with many different legendaries like the legendary birds and I'm pretty sure I ended up beating it using rotom but I don't remember. Sacred ruins is the true final boss. Destiny tower is like weeny hut Jr's in comparison

SAME THOUGH! I Remember Nuzleaf betraying the MCs but i dont remember there being a Kirby crossover (Dark matter)

Huh?

@@Akumo69 on screen from 1:21

I haven't played Gates yet and barely know anything about Bitter Cold, but I've seen some people make videos on their differences and how they serve different stories...maybe you'll find that one day somehow. Again, havent played to understand if it's different enough. (Also I'm glad that's the only thing you didn't like. I really enjoyed SMD after only playing Explorers.)

Nah Dark Matter was much better. It was much more threatening than the Bittercold was. And it made much more sense that the only way to truly defeat it was for a Pokémon to accept the dark side of themselves. With the Bittercold they didn't have to accept anything. They just found a loophole about how it couldn't affect humans and made the human destroy it for them, instead of accepting what they had created. I feel like the heroes of Gates failed to properly defeat the Bittercold just like how Mew originally failed to destroy Dark Matter in the distant past. It's only a matter of time before another Bittercold emerge.

As someone who recently played and finished both Super and Gates within days of each other I can tell you inmediately that Bittercold was a lot more underwelming as a threat than Dark Matter, not to mention Dark Matter actually did stuff in the story like having it's lackeys turn every legendary to stone instead of just sitting in the one glacier and not even moving until the end game, Dark Matter was more of a continuous threat throughout the game, and having a more interesting final boss fight to booth.

@@wintersong2266 I know I'm like 1 year later, but... The main thing for stopping the Bittercold wasn't the loophole, that'd be like saying the reason they had an opportunity against Dark Matter was because of the Harmony Scarves. The MC wasn't able to really damage the Bittercold until people started having hope again. I actually think for this same reason the Bittercold was better handled; they destroyed this iteration of it, but it will appear again if they continue to be so negative on the world. They KNOW it will happen again so the best they can do is to treat each other better and keep hoping for a better future. On the other hand, the partner accepting Dark Matter kinda felt like "we defeated negativity forever!!11!1" which is okay for a fictional story but falls flat compared to the more realistic morale of GtI. Anyways PMD is great. And I love GtI 🙂

Have the entire universe nearly got obliterated by a black hole lmao

This universe has gone through multiple world ending threats at this point, the PKMN world is a very scary place!

The village has better characters, but the city has better story. So both have their pros and cons.

@@wintersong2266 Indeed.

@@wintersong2266 the city's characters are pretty good IMO, you get time with all of them but i agree with this

thats fun shit u got there

Can't recruit legendaries? You can get: Virizion, Keldeo, Cobalion, Terrakion, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, and Meloetta Yeah it sucks you can't get certain legendaries but you can still get legendaries.

@@judgementbird2248 The problem is there are legendaries coded into the game which you CAN fight but not recruit. It's the stupidest BS!!

Same My only problem with SMD is that i don't recruit members and it sucks tbh But other than that, i love that game overall

It also came right after explorers, which is a huge game to try to match, let alone do better. I feel they outdid themselves a bit too much on explorers, which while not bad at all, gave us players some unrealistic expectations for the next game

I think the problem with Gates is that it has an issue with tell but don't show. We're told early on that Pokémon are all becoming cold and cruel to each other. But really apart from a few con artists we encounter early on the situation really doesn't seem as bad as the game imply it is. Heck we had much more cruel Pokémon in Rescue Team and Explorers and no one complained about the cruelty of Pokémon in those games.

I think it's because of the major focus on Emeras for dungeons, if you don't get the right ones you need for a difficult dungeon, you'll find yourself struggling a lot more often. I remember the first time I got to the last boss in the main story (Me: Riolu, Partner: Fennekin), I had barely gotten any good emera pickups throughout the entire dungeon and lost to the boss multiple times.

not unless you emulate it illegally

3DS

8 months late but I agree, I think they're missing out on a lot of opportunities on not using specific Pokémon as the big bad in the PMD games like they did with Time/Darkness/Sky. It started with a meteor, then a snowflake and finally some comically ominous looking orb