I Spent 60 Hours Rebuilding This Broken UTV. Will It Run?

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I Spent 60 Hours Rebuilding This Broken UTV. Will It Run?

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I buy an Odes Dominator 800 UTV and rebuild the entire engine. Will it start after the rebuild? #Odes, #800cc #sidebyside,
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@davidcustard9311 10 ай бұрын

I just wanted to say is I went to school for small and marine engines for half a year until the class was closed due to lack of students. Anyway, I have to say I've learned more watching a half dozen of your youtube videos then I did in the crappy class. Thank you. I really enjoy it.

@andysinn8655 6 ай бұрын

I went to tech school for automotive years ago and they were so far behind the times.What was taught was a joke and we were working on rear wheel drive vehicles and never touched a front wheel drive.I also learn more from youtube than I did in class.I learned from hands on only whether my time in a small engine shop or automotive.

@sunswimgitman 10 ай бұрын

What a frustrating set of circumstances with that rig! All I can say is that for you these basket-case jobs just mean another awesome video which I appreciate even more than the easy jobs. Good thing nothing ever seems to faze you! Thank you for all the great content! Super enjoyable and informative!

@johnb5519 10 ай бұрын

Maybe the thermostat is stuck closed. Maybe it overheated before, and that ruined that gear. Great job and good you didn't give up.

@allan1353 10 ай бұрын

was thinking the same.

@Smdove 10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@bryangannon7868 10 ай бұрын

Also keep in mind to fill the coolant system then warm it up with the radiator cap off then fill more as needed once flow starts.

@jjh130 10 ай бұрын

Coolant: was the system blead? Maybe too much air in the system and fan not working? Agree with the stuck thermostat theory too. Armchair mechanics here...😂

@simonpritchard6074 5 ай бұрын

All the time you devoted to that and now overheating and you didn't swear!..may the force be with you Luke!

@travharrell1713 10 ай бұрын

Didn't see where you bled the cooling system. I know on the Yamaha Rhino there are two places to bleed on the top of the engine where the coolant goes in and on the bottom at the water pump. For the rhino you have to raise the front so that the top of the radiator is higher than the top of the engine. If you haven't bled at the pump, air in the pump will not allow it to pump coolant at all.

@OldTimerGarden 10 ай бұрын

I thought this also.

@JoshuaJonah 10 ай бұрын

@@OldTimerGarden I'm not sure about this thing, but most Can-ams bleed pretty well without having to open the valves. On a Can-am, they're on the coolant elbows where they join onto the head.

@chucklesy 6 ай бұрын

I had an eagle premiere that was like that. Any French connection?

@oldkicker8958 4 ай бұрын

Good point, I read somewhere about bleeding to system.

@Jeffrose_ 10 ай бұрын

It's a shame the cooling system isn't working. However, You are keeping your cool very well. Part 3 for the 4x4😊

@sdick01 10 ай бұрын

Hey Joe, you show amazing patience here. I agree with all the comments on bleeding the cooling system, might be an air bubble trapped. Also, your secondary can be shimmed or de shimmed, the belt should not be spinning at idle, that will help shift between gears and provide less take off jerk. Scotch brite those sheeves and she'll grip the belt better as well.

@AvocatDude 6 ай бұрын

Man you’ve gotta have so much not only technical knowledge, but the patience of Jobe to work on these machines.

@Upnorthmoto443 10 ай бұрын

Hey Joe, might check to see if you have an air bubble trapped in the cooling system. Look for an air bleeder. My dad’s did the same thing after installing a heater. Took us forever to get the air out.

@JB-mf1zc 10 ай бұрын

take the radiator cap off and start it up and lit circulate till you gat all the air out.

@G-Man-kc2nm 10 ай бұрын

Nice work! Keep following your gut, possible stuck thermostat, or something simple like air in the system. I’m very impressed with your attention to detail. I’ve never worked on these small engines, mostly auto and diesel stuff. You have earned my subscription. Can’t wait to see the fix.

@MPDano 10 ай бұрын

I can't believe you didn't put anti-seize on the primary clutch shaft after what you went through trying to remove that. That Odes doesn't look too difficult to work on, looks very similar to the Yamaha Rhino set up. I have worked on a few makes of UTV's, the absolute worse and suggest you run if you find one, is the Honda MUV. I literally had to cut off a few brackets just to pull the heads, then re-weld the brackets back on. It's like Honda put the motor in and then started welding brackets on top of the motor. Known issue on the Honda MUV is the cam lobes wearing out and a serious pain to do that job. For your overheating, I would verify if your Odes has a thermostat as the later Rhinos do. Also, there is some kind of whining noise going on and it sounds like the transmission as the noise is while your rolling. Anyways, I commend your efforts.

@jerrywilcox9890 10 ай бұрын

Reason there hard to get off lol.someone that says they work on them should know full well you can't put anything on the shaft lol.

@MPDano 10 ай бұрын

@jerrywilcox9890 well, been doing that on primaries now for over 15 years and not one fell off and that's using an impact to put the bolt or nut back on. Tolerance is so high that most of it gets pushed off the shaft, in turn it also seals the shaft from ever getting corrosion or rust on it. Bolt or nut will never back off as the rotation of the primary is opposite as long as you tighten the crap out of it. Or torque it to spec if you wish. Works for me, so I'll keep doing it. You can struggle on your setups.

@christinegreen7120 10 ай бұрын

Very impressed with your commitment - I'd have put a match to it ages ago!! My guess is the thermostat is jammed shut (if it has one) as the water pump was spinning freely when you tested it.

@greathornedowl3644 10 ай бұрын

Love seeing the engine out on the workbench, my old back twinges watching you bend and twist reaching things. Great learning moments, keep up the hard work

@tonyeaton3886 10 ай бұрын

Note to self....NEVER buy an Odes side by side!! Maybe that's why the previous owner finally dumped it on somebody else.

@bigbadford81 10 ай бұрын

I would say it’s the water pump gear. There is nothing to keep it from sliding inward and disengaging. That’s what probably chewed up the oil pump gear to begin with.

@digger_jon2778 10 ай бұрын

There's supposed to be washers behind that gear I seen that also same with the all the gears the thrust washers are all missing

@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын

Even not magnetic, will clean up the seats! Just a tip. Don't horse em but gently lap them to clean em up. Great vid, I don't ever want to see one of those in here. Do work on Can Ams a lot.

@cboutdoorfun9955 10 ай бұрын

Make sure there is no air in the system first before tearing it apart. Sxs’s can be a pain to bleed

@wrathchild3581 10 ай бұрын

I just cant get over those plastic gears in a UTV engine. Just makes me cringe!

@djpar3492 10 ай бұрын

Garbage! People spend thousands on junk.

@danburch9989 10 ай бұрын

If they could make an entire engine out of plastic, they would. B&S does the same thing with the cam gear. Nylon/plastic for consumer grade engines, metal for the commercial Vanguard line.

@jerrywilcox9890 10 ай бұрын

What most engine's have now unless someone puts aftermarket ones.

@aaronhoward7593 10 ай бұрын

planned obsolescence

@MR-puffnstuff 10 ай бұрын

I know some gearing it is better to not use the same materials gear against gear ⚙️ but this cheapo plastic era is going to come back to haunt the future of this planet.

@ozarkarky 10 ай бұрын

This has nothing to do with the overheating problem (thermostat if you're lucky). But at around the 19:00 mark I think I understood you needed to set the intake valves at .005 to .009 and then you set them at .003

@sunswimgitman 10 ай бұрын

I heard that too.

@quickturn66 10 ай бұрын

.05 mm is what he said, then he used English feeler gauges. .05 mm is .002 in English.

@Mr63kw 10 ай бұрын

Could be you need to burp the cooling system might be an air pocket.

@johnhicks735 10 ай бұрын

That ground is one of your main body grounds to your wiring harness relays. Checkout the impeller woodruff key and impeller blade on that part of it. That starter solenoid could be going out on that also. Thae other is check your thermostats on the upper and lower lines for proper coolant Flow. And 180° degrees test them in boiling hot water.

@chrisl.9410 10 ай бұрын

I had a similar problem with a Kubota UTV overheating. Removed the thermostat and it still overheated and was not circulating coolant. Ended up being the water pump cavitated. Took thermostat housing back off and filled pump housing with water and it was good to go..

@hoosierway 10 ай бұрын

I think other than your 700xx missing parts, this has to be your most difficult task yet. You certainly show great restraint and patience with these machines. Good job.

@wilbar66ful 10 ай бұрын

yeah i would have drivin it into the lake by now lol

@TonyHills-c2d 25 күн бұрын

Love your videos. At 70 now takes me back 50 years to a world where we fixed everything ourselves, the world was a better place. Now it all a shit show.

@falconislit646 10 ай бұрын

Im sure you love working on this utv🤣

@MM_in_Havasu 10 ай бұрын

Excellent job, Joe! Sure did enjoy the whole video series on this one, thanks for sharing it with all of us! I'd be looking for a thermostat stuck shut if you aren't circulating coolant, if there's one in the system.

@ragnarironspear1791 10 ай бұрын

You must hate that thing by now . Brilliant channel 👍🏻

@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын

No aftermarket metal gears??

@luuk-out-below9804 10 ай бұрын

Almost there Joe! Disconnect the hot line and make sure you got flow, there isn't much on a utv. If there is flow then an air bubble or pocket can inhibit flow, the weak pumps will just try to compress the air also check your thermostat. If no flow, hey you got experience pulling the engine for water pump work!

@rigguyjt 10 ай бұрын

I noticed the inside where you took the oil pump out has been rubbing hard metal to metal. It shouldn’t be that way. The oil pump could have bound up against the inside of that case.

@themarfman 10 ай бұрын

It almost looks like the top left part of that surface was smashed, probably where it contracted and stuck when it destroyed the gear? 3:03

@II_WH1T3-SH4DOW_II 10 ай бұрын

You really have my respect for bringing this UTV back to life ❤️ 👊👊

@adambooth9630 10 ай бұрын

Try a rebleed of cooling system, also check the thermostat

@rodswim492 24 күн бұрын

Joe, get yourself a bench vice to put that valve spring compressor in. It sure makes it easier.

@ThingsYouMightLike 10 ай бұрын

So awesome to see this far man! Followed the whole journey, and definitely a labor of love. But you're nailing it. Now that you're intimate with the internals, I would definitely hold onto this and turn it into yours for the long haul.

@rikmiles6531 10 ай бұрын

Intimate..really?

@ThingsYouMightLike 10 ай бұрын

@@rikmiles6531not sure why you're having issue with that word. But yes, intimate. Very close contact, association, or familiarity. Seems to accurately describe the situation. Sorry if that bothers you.

@SuperTrumptight 10 ай бұрын

Becarful with the clutch bolts. On can am maverick and renegades the bolts are 1 time use. Meaning they stretch when tightening. Means you have to replace the bolt with a new one.

@seananthony5439 3 ай бұрын

Yes can am does recommend replacing the clutch bolt each time but i have used them twice and had no problems so far. They also have a torque setting then and angle in degrees from torque setting.😊

@wesleypulkka7447 10 ай бұрын

2V, with the original retail on these machines being so really high the one you have is going to be a true bargain when sorted out! Cool video!

@thebigguy8306 10 ай бұрын

Great project. A time of year in the upper midwest (Minnesota) when many of us are considering a UTV for plowing. Love the engine out videos. 🤔Somebody needs a Japanese Mini-Truck - only 660 cc engine

@snowyowl7042 10 ай бұрын

Got it humming along, great job. Lots of learning moments

@daveco1270 10 ай бұрын

I really like this channel. 357k subs is impressive. I'd like to know more about Joe. Is he self taught or did he go to school to learn this stuff? Is he doing this full time? I'd love to see him do al live stream Q and A.

@jayjudd6518 10 ай бұрын

😊Another chance to enjoy a video it’s like a Ford -[fix or repair daily] sell it off quickly once you get it completed.😊😊😊

@devonhoward1635 10 ай бұрын

You know he’s tired of this machine the way he sends those bolts in with a drill lol I’ve been to that point lmao

@jamesathey9306 10 ай бұрын

You could have an air bubble in the cooling system. I have had a over heating problem with these machines and found there was an air bubble on the bottom side of the thermostat. You may have to bleed the system.

@martymcmannis6581 7 ай бұрын

I found it hard to believe that you were lost without marks showing TDC. You are smart enough to figure out when piston is at the top and the stater is at on the flywheel. Maybe I'm just old school but looking at the valves open and closing . Oh nevermind, I just hope you always have marks to go by. Nice job now drive by those guys that sold it to you. Thanks for sharing

@gtisid 10 ай бұрын

well done for taking this on , a big job and so close to checking the water pump! ! personally i wouldn't touch one they look a mess. should fetch good money once its sorted

@markusayt 10 ай бұрын

24:37 no engine hoist needed just a strong back and arms 😂. Great work.

@kalaharimine 10 ай бұрын

Also check that thermostat, also the fan should have been working overtime with that heat.

@NoConsent33 10 ай бұрын

Why don't you check to see if Can Am makes an aluminum gear kit for those 3 or go have them cut at a machine shop? I know a couple shops that would cut gears. Could have them Laser cut at 100/hr and machined at 50/hr + cost of material. Could do flat gears in 5mm thickness and add sleeve spacers and copper washers for alignment. Aluminum and Copper slide and work nice with each other when lubed.

@peteraitken6494 10 ай бұрын

Hi joe good job mate maybe thermostat is stuck mate or water pump is jamming somewhere good luck nice machine must be so frustrating at times , good on you though for keeping cool I would have kicked it a few times of camera a few times right enough 😂😂 take care and all the best 👍👌🔧🔧🔧🦴🐾🐾❤️

@ROTV-DanLockhart 10 ай бұрын

Always fun to watch you work, Joe. Thanks!

@tomw5824 6 ай бұрын

Anxious for part 3. Hopefully you'll provide your best guess for whatever the original problem was.

@TheTwistedStone 10 ай бұрын

Don't loose hope, haven't seen you fail at anything and your persistence is not futile. Cheers for sharing.

@allan9603 10 ай бұрын

Joe I wasn't feeling well until you released this new video!😂😮😅 Allan in Columbia, SC

@315gamer5 10 ай бұрын

I’d check the thermostat probably stuck closed if u didn’t replace it from when u got it love the content brotha 🤘

@jeffreyness9741 10 ай бұрын

For a recently lazy person which is me, I feel inspired by your work.

@georgepidick9967 10 ай бұрын

Joe, you did a great job rebuilding !two cooling issues with that engine. It has to be bled by water pump or it get a bubble and cavitates. The temperature sensor on radiator goes bad and prevents fans from running also. Good luck... clutch seems a bit jerky , could need some attention. Otherwise nicely done !

@youngblood2 5 ай бұрын

I don't see how you can remember how everything goes back together. Amazing memory you have!

@bubbataft7462 5 ай бұрын

I'm glad there's cell phones w cameras on them. I've gotten to where I take a picture before I take it off now. It's not like the ol days when you could just line it up on the floor, there's too many pieces.

@regnor166 10 ай бұрын

It's perhaps a dumb idea but you could hoist the engine with a ratchet strap on the roll cage. wish you keeping cool with working on this again, best regards and thanks for the videos.

@JoshuaJonah 10 ай бұрын

The one-way bearing in that primary you probably don't want to take apart again is boned. That's why it's not idling very well. The secondary shouldn't spin at idle. As for the secondary coming off, that's a torque-to-spec bolt. Can-am guys know that's a one time use bolt. Every time you pull the secondary you pay the $8 for a new bolt or risk paying $400 for a clutch case and secondary spring.

@billdyke9745 10 ай бұрын

Odes. An anagram of 'does'. Unfortunately this one doesn't... Looking on the bright side, the harder it is, the more we like it... Well done, Joe, it's nearly there. 👍

@dhooter 10 ай бұрын

At the end of the day I definitely now know what UTV not to buy lol. Plastic gears inside a engine. Wow

@rikmiles6531 10 ай бұрын

My back hurts just watching you struggle with installing that engine. I would have used that roll cage and a pulley/ hand winch

@kevinsellsit5584 10 ай бұрын

When filling the cooling system you should do it from the highest point you can. Either the blue hose or if it has a heater core it might be higher. It may be very low on coolant. For idle quality always start by cleaning the idle air controll valve and throttle body with the valve removed.

@thomasdavis8062 8 ай бұрын

I would love to have your knowledge working on these! I rebuilt the top end of my Polaris Sportsman 500ho and was shocked when it ran afterwards! Put a hammer in my hand and I can build most anything but I’m NOT a mechanic. Love watching your videos.

@user-fv6lx6ku1d 10 ай бұрын

Well it’s really frustrating but keep up the good work Joe. Worth trying the “easy” stuff like checking the radiation for blockages, removing the thermostat, before checking the water pump impeller because I’m pretty sure that requires the engine to be out but maybe you can reach it from underneath. I’m willing to bet the impeller is plastic too and has melted, too bad they’re using so much plastic on engine internals.

@michaelbradley7529 6 ай бұрын

If you rotate those 1-quart oil bottles 180 degrees from how you had them, the oil will pour out smoothly and not glug out.

@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын

Looked like you set intake and exhaust the same on cylinder 1.? Gonna sucj getting it in. Need an over head hoist or winch, makes life easier with those sxs. Good job Joe!

@ronethridge9875 8 ай бұрын

it will be nice when -you get the problems fixed/i want to see it all done/thanks much

@danwingo7512 10 ай бұрын

My Yamaha, which is what that is a copy of, had a burp port on the top of the motor that had to be opened when refilling the coolant. I'm not familiar with Odes, but it may have he same setup.

@DjRobalx 10 ай бұрын

Whyyyyy plastic gear whyyyyy so stupid for al engine overall thats kind of force to those plastic gears. The manufactor have to think twice Peace from Sweden

@rapidfire-0680 9 ай бұрын

Dude IDK, I did a Google search on Odes, I had never heard of them before, and i found out that they're a Chinese manufacturer, and nothing against china or anything, I've personally bought a predator engine from Harbor freight in the past, and for the money no complaints, but there's a good reason why a Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, or a Polaris will set you back thousands of more dollars, with those cheap Chinese knock off brand's, they lack in quality in comparison, and they can't take the abuse the others can take 😲 !

@wisemannhlakaniphobhengu2285 3 ай бұрын

I enjoy your work on small engines

@vmax673 24 күн бұрын

Take those gears to a metal shop and get them to make you some aluminum gears

@davidorcutt9246 4 ай бұрын

I wish I had the knowledge you have, good on you!!! Fun to watch. I have been trying to find a UTV that good condition and bad engine. My 14 year old son wants to convert one to an electric drive. I must not know where to look for them cause you have found lots

@18wheeler77 10 ай бұрын

26:00 I’m surprised you didn’t hurt your back, that looked pretty heavy!

@benmiller5015 10 ай бұрын

He's still young lol in like 10 years he's gonna need a backiotomy from working on everything bent over n picking up engines lol

@18wheeler77 10 ай бұрын

@@benmiller5015 I wanna talk to Samson!!!!!

@benmiller5015 10 ай бұрын

@@18wheeler77 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@craigmorgan4676 10 ай бұрын

Great work there Joe,looked like a serious mission fiddling with the engine and getting it back and hooked up!Very interesting to watch,gg brother!👌👊🦾🦾🦾

@chrismedaris4873 10 ай бұрын

I think its great after all that work u can still say thats not good and not hide it great job u will fix it maybe get a biger moter with real gears

@proxc2077 10 ай бұрын

Cooling system could be air locked or thermostat could be stuck.

@johnjackson3483 Ай бұрын

You should have Googled "How do I pour oil when the filler neck is off-set!" The offset goes on the high side to prevent the gurgling you got.

@user-jp8tl1wi7g 10 ай бұрын

Of course it fired up Joe, did you expect any different!! Wow what a monumental feat, the biggest fix to date in my opinion. Great job!! Great job indeed!!

@kollak01 10 ай бұрын

for cleaning engine parts or certain parts that have a heavy stain try wheel cleaner. if its raw aluminum try chrome wheel cleaner.

@brnschr 10 ай бұрын

The Secondary Clutch came off because you probably didn’t align the helix with the back of the clutch. There are three ears on the helix that have to slide into three slots in the back of the secondary. If you tighten it down without aligning the helix it will come right off as soon as you put it in gear. Also noticed you removed the one way bearing from the primary which is a big no-no if you’re not paying attention. There are two springs in the one way bearing that will fly out when you pull it off, just speaking from experience on that one lol

@jimjimmy3343 10 ай бұрын

cant believe there is no cover on the clutches

@Carbon12_666 10 ай бұрын

U need more cooling water in the system. add more when running the motor.

@cliffchance347 5 ай бұрын

You did good for no Manuel to follow I’m impressed good job 👍

@kensmall1379 10 ай бұрын

Hey Joe. Keep up the great work on the videos. Fun to watch and learn. I have a Bennche Tboss utv, and love it. Mine started overheating, and I noticed the fan wasn't turning on. I replaced the fan relay sensor. $14 part and a 10 minute job. Not sure if that brand/year has one, and I couldn't tell if your fan was running when it overheated. Good luck!

@artmraz575 10 ай бұрын

It may be air locked look for a bleeder screw around thermostat or where the highest radiator hose comes off the head :))

@darrellstark8566 6 ай бұрын

Looks like regular oil change on time is very important

@mackinghorn1991 10 ай бұрын

Think it might be just a case of bleeding the cooling system out rather than just filling it up with coolant. Pretty common problem with these units were you end up with a giant air lock in the engine. Should be some bleeder screws on the engine to help with bleeding out the coolant system.

@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын

Turn the winch dial on the right go freewheel. It'll pull right out. They eat batteries.

@crowtubecrozier2857 5 ай бұрын

I think that stripped gear definitely had something to do with the rod bearings going. Could have the crank stripped the teeth on that main water, oil gear? Weird it's plastic. Hmmm interesting

@MatthewSmith-to1hz 10 ай бұрын

Check the thermostat, that will stop coolant flow.

@jasonbirkenkamp660 10 ай бұрын

Check your coolant level I was positive i had my rzr was bled out. But after a good ride it let me know different. Just had to let it idle a long long while and add more coolant!

@Trinity_Window_Products 10 ай бұрын

Man i was soo happy. As soon as it started i was like "he did it" then the oberheat and im like DAMM!

@darrynruzicka2883 10 ай бұрын

It might have just been the casting from the factory or the camera but it looked like there was galling on the case behind the oil pump which is the gear that failed. maybe there is supposed to be a washer or shim back there? The first rule of repair is to know what caused the failure you are repairing or it will just happen again and wreck all your new parts. But, it could be just a weak plastic gear. Hard to believe they put plastic in setups like that but it is used in a lot of small engines these days.

@tallboy49 10 ай бұрын

Have you checked the thermostat, it may be stuck closed and not allowing the coolant to flow

@phatmhan69 10 ай бұрын

I dont like and comment often enough, usually I watch your videos while I'm not logged in on a different device. But I'll try harder. You do a great job. And I do anhoy watching. I've wanted to suggest a few things and often learn things. Keep up the good work!

@phatmhan69 10 ай бұрын

Enjoy*

@brody8r 10 ай бұрын

I didnt notice the new driveway! Nice driveway though!

@hunterstump9748 10 ай бұрын

That first valve spring yoj took out it fell out an yoh put the retainer on the wrong side btw

@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 10 ай бұрын

Looking for shards of metal in the pump, flush with WD-40 and hover the area with your magnet on a stick is the way to go.

@starpuss 10 ай бұрын

I miss working on Old Broken Junk!! At one time my YT Channel Was Making $2500-3,000 Per Month doing videos like this. Really Wish i did not stop making ATV/Dirtbike Videos!