I Swapped to the New Surface Pro 11 for One Week! (Snapdragon X)

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The Everyday Dad

The Everyday Dad

4 күн бұрын

I swapped to the latest Microsoft Surface Pro for a whole week!
So how did it go?

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@Vincent_Koech
@Vincent_Koech 3 күн бұрын
Video editing is a really niche use case that KZfaqrs focus on too much when regular people hardly edit videos.
@Louis-kg7qo
@Louis-kg7qo 3 күн бұрын
I received the LCD model yesterday and am really impressed. It is a computer not a tablet, crazy fast. I returned my Ipad pro m4. I could not justify the price for the iPad that it is only good for consuming media.
@nate5887
@nate5887 3 күн бұрын
I returned mine as well for the same reason.
@bassyey
@bassyey 3 күн бұрын
You're a person who thinks about purchases, congrats. iPads are hot garbage and redundant. Literally just an iPhone.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
I bought the OLED Surface Pro for £1750 & £340 for the keyboard. It has been a disappointment for me. The battery is less than my iPad Pro M4, and it does less than my iPad. I am sure, given the time, that Gen-2 might be better than an iPad, but at the moment, the OLED one is too expensive and has too many issues. I use Google Drive, and it's not working. I might have tried the cheaper LCD version, but having seen the ArtisRight video, I see its performance is terrible, and it has significant issues doing anything photographic or video editing. Almost unusable. So, I will return to my iPad Pro, which has a significantly faster CPU, GPU and NPU, and I prefer the pencil. I also have an MB Pro, so I do not need a tablet to run a desktop OS. Even MS now classifies the SP as a laptop. MS no longer make de facto tablets due to the disaster of W8 and their decision never to make a hybrid tablet ever again; it cost them many billions and is why Apple and Samsung will never tread that path to a hybrid device. And of course, MS no longer exists as relevant in the tablet market as iPads move towards one billion units sold.
@dairyfreemilkyway239
@dairyfreemilkyway239 3 күн бұрын
@@bassyeyI say the same thing about your mom
@Louis-kg7qo
@Louis-kg7qo 2 күн бұрын
@@andyH_England I can afford the Oled surface but I really don't need an Oled computer and I don't want burnt pixels on a computer that I would be using for more than 5 years. Nahhh, the only thing that you could do more on an iPad is watching videos. iPad OS is the issue.
@magus269
@magus269 3 күн бұрын
I've been looking at reviews since this came out but I think i'm sold. Your reviews are the best I've found because I feel like I get a realistic view of how it will work for me. I also really appreciate that you don't have any bias towards MS/Apple and are just looking for the best computer for your needs. I appreciate that because I feel the same and also have a mix of products.
@firstnamelastname1984
@firstnamelastname1984 2 күн бұрын
Oh God yes, every time tech KZfaqrs start showing the processor speed benchmark bars, and listing measurable nits of brightness in the monitor, I just glaze over. Just tell me if it works, or if there are noticeable irritations!
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 3 күн бұрын
I used to trust you, I thought you never would lie to us... and then it happened... "I don't do a lot of gaming"
@flexo6969
@flexo6969 2 күн бұрын
😂
@flexo6969
@flexo6969 2 күн бұрын
😂
@flyingaviator8158
@flyingaviator8158 2 күн бұрын
I mean... in that device... he definitely don't 🤣
@netnomad47
@netnomad47 2 күн бұрын
He's a Mac user. This is a good Mac alternative. Not a good gaming laptop alternative
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 2 күн бұрын
@@netnomad47 See that white box on the floor in the background? That looks like a high end gaming PC to me. If not, I know he owns one, as he has mentioned it beofore.
@arondyte318
@arondyte318 3 күн бұрын
This Surface Pro proves that this generation of Windows on Arm devices is actually pretty good and Dell just sucked at making theirs lol
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p Күн бұрын
To be fair, Dells mostly suck nowadays.
@iu1191
@iu1191 2 күн бұрын
Surface Pro user for years. I have to say I agree with you on every level. What a device. For people who don't know, the Surface IS a PC. It is not LIKE a PC. It is not SIMILAR to a PC. It IS a PC. Once you get that, you are good to go, and the world is your oyster. You have a PC with you whenever you need one. I have a sling bag which I throw mine into, and I take it everywhere. It is amazing. I have the SP9, so I also have a battery pack and a charging adapter, which is a bit of a bummer. If I had the SP11, I would just leave home with the device and be good to go. I am looking forward to that day. I might wait until the SP12 or 13 when all the kinks are gone from Windows on ARM. Also, my device is just over a year old and does all I need, so I will keep it for a little bit longer. The SP line is amazing. I have no real use for a tablet of any other kind because I have a 13-inch tablet whenever I need one and I have a PC all the time. Since I got the original RT, I have had a Surface and I would simply never go back. Of course, if I had needs that meant the cooling was a problem for me, I would change, but since I don't, I am good to go and loving it. It is so good to hear someone who is used to having a Mac and still uses one enjoying the SP11 so much. It kind of means that Microsoft has really upped their user experience game, which I think I can agree with. Windows 11 has some road left to travel in becoming a good tablet interface. Let's be honest, it is NOT a good tablet interface, haha, but apart from that, everything works and the workarounds are great. Small keyboards, pop-up trackpad - a godsend. It all works and will get better now that the tablet can be an all-day tablet. I am so looking forward to what happens next. Great video. Thanks for making it.
@Burbanana
@Burbanana 3 күн бұрын
hey there, how is this on the lap when you need to write or do some programming? Thanks for this video
@hyltonclementson
@hyltonclementson Күн бұрын
i have always admired this machine, and the new model would be a dream come true. great review!
@Givenofficial
@Givenofficial 3 күн бұрын
well i have to ask.... how does it really perform for gaming? if im gonna spend a lump sum on this device, i want to know how it performs for *light* gaming. nothing insane but just casual planet coaster or nolimits2. (roller coaster games)
@whipaw
@whipaw 3 күн бұрын
My honest opinion is if someone doesn't go outdoors to edit and likes to stay in his room to do stuff on his device then a Desktop PC is preferable and also has many customization choices
@LionelGeek
@LionelGeek 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. I agree with your assessment. Been using it since launch day last month. Love, love, love the flexibility of this machine. It's worked great for Office apps, Teams and Zoom calls, Photoshop and the (non-classic) version of Lightroom have all worked flawlessly. Only hiccups wee with the Davinci Resolve beta... but it's not a critical app for me. I can wait for the official ARM version. Only issue I had so far: the Flex keyboard wouldn't work when I detached it from the SP11. The pen did, but the keyboard didn't. Microsoft's recent hardware update fixed the issue for me. I'm really happy with the performance, the battery life and the flexibility of the Surface Pro 11.
@Burbanana
@Burbanana 2 күн бұрын
hey there, how would you rate this for using on the lap to write documents or do some programming? basically lots of typing and reading on the go
@XxVenusBooxX
@XxVenusBooxX 2 күн бұрын
How would you rate this for day to day grad student life?
@darkinfuser_44
@darkinfuser_44 2 күн бұрын
@@XxVenusBooxX i dont think everyones doing grad school but it seems pretty good
@acstewart4
@acstewart4 2 күн бұрын
Another youtuber asked do u want a lap toppy tablet or a tablety laptop? As silly as it sounds that is an accurate question when deciding what device works best for you.
@LukeoftheTauri
@LukeoftheTauri 2 күн бұрын
I'm curious why you bought a Surface Dock if you already have a Thunderbolt dock for yoru Mac? I'd be curious if you had issues with your existing dock! (I bought an SP11 for personal use, and it works with my work Thunderbolt dock just fine, so I can just flip between work computer and home computer)
@avssmith1
@avssmith1 Күн бұрын
Which version of the Surface 11 is this?
@kasualkombat6404
@kasualkombat6404 3 күн бұрын
Competition baby!!!
@michaelolz
@michaelolz 3 күн бұрын
I'm a Mac devotee who is now curious...can it run something at least as old as Diablo 3?
@cohoonatube
@cohoonatube Күн бұрын
How is the Bluetooth performance? Any issues with 4 or more simultaneously connected?
@baltmatrix
@baltmatrix 3 күн бұрын
How warm does the device get after watching a bunch of videos over an hour or two? Either local or streaming.
@TazzSmk
@TazzSmk 3 күн бұрын
according to other tests, around 45 °C because the cpu/gpu throttles down to prevent overheating and excessive power draw (depends on energy profile in Windows)
@markstev0
@markstev0 2 күн бұрын
Have you tried the Minisforum V3? I can't help but think at the moment Ryzen might be the way to go while ARM Windows finds it's feet. Also love that it can be used as a second display, making it a great personal device to add a second screen to a work laptop when travelling.
@scttymn
@scttymn 3 күн бұрын
I was curious if this worked with the Studio Display. I know you mentioned it in passing, do you have any other thoughts?
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
I read it only supports 4K but no confirmation.
@tri0xin
@tri0xin 2 күн бұрын
looks awesome.. but is it gonna bother you that you didn't get the OLED version?
@granttaylor8179
@granttaylor8179 3 күн бұрын
I have the base model Surface Pro 11 and the only time I have heard the fan is during the initial setup. When it was applying the update the fan was on but once the was done it was silent. I whs Microsoft had kept the swiping multu tasking from Windows 8. It is interesting using the Pro 11 and the Surface RT side by side. The Pro 11 plugs straight into my setup at home with a single USB-C cable abd a wired keyboard and mouse. I have not had time to had a extended use session yet. Everything so far has been native ARM software. I have yet to try any x64 applications but I will do so. I have a wireless MFD to try and a portable monitor to checkout. I also have Anker Thunderbolt dock with a Blue-Ray drive and a 1TB external drive. I am interested to see if there is a Vmware Player for trying out virtual machines. I am not sure if upgrading to Windows 11 Pro and rry out Hyper-V would be good. Virtualization is supposed in the chipset but how far you can go at the moment is unknown. With only 16GB of RAM I would not have a lot of RAM to play with but it would be interesting. I do have Intel NUC's with 64GB of RAM for running multiple VM's.
@hostssk
@hostssk 2 күн бұрын
How's the programming on this device? I'm using VSCode or Webstorm, node.js running, docker instance.
@Louis-kg7qo
@Louis-kg7qo Күн бұрын
@@hostssk I am programming on it. I installed Windows Subsystem for Linux and have Ubuntu running on the WSL, postgresql, a really heavy python app running inside the Ubuntu, and vscode installed on Windows connected to the Ubuntu WSL. I haven't experienced a single issue, not even debugging the Python app from vscode and Chrome. I would say that it is running faster than my MacBook Pro M1 the same setup I just described.
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 күн бұрын
Quick question.. Was the $1000 for everything? Or only the laptop/tab.. And you had to pay extra for the pen and keyboard?
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
In the UK, it is £1050 for the base SP, £340 for the keyboard, and £100 for a pen. The OLED is at least another £500 more. The base SP only comes with 256GB, so as most people complain, it costs another £200 for 512GB. So the non-OLED could set you back £1700 for the above-recommended specs. That is awful value, especially as some videos show it has performance issues.
@rousing22
@rousing22 2 күн бұрын
Does Google drive for desktop work on this? If not, deal breaker.
@nitind
@nitind 2 күн бұрын
How can they not have cellular models day 1?
@lolz.s
@lolz.s 3 күн бұрын
Interesting competitor to the M4. I'm not a super user who likes to get on the action at the beginning. I can hold out for more apps to be available and it becomes a seamless integration.
@orangeofmars2835
@orangeofmars2835 3 күн бұрын
Good point about Windows 11. I use a Surface Pro 8 (with i7) and am trying to find out if upgrading to Surface Pro 11 is a better idea than upgrading my iPad Pro 12.8 inch 2018 to Surface Pro M4. I like Windows a lot. Not sure if it is because I have used Windows 11 a lot more but I really prefer it over MacOS though I cannot say anything about either that I really don't like. I am leaning to upgrading to Surface Pro 11+ when Lunar Lake comes out and upgrade my iPad Pro to iPad M2 11 inch rather than a 13 inch. This will depend a lot on how well the Samsung Ring works and how well it integrates with the Samsung S24 Ultra and the Galaxy Watch. I expect Apple will come out with Apple Ring but not until likely 2026 which is a long time. I am an artist and prefer the iPad Pencil 2 over the Slim Pen though the Slim Pen is fine. If Microsoft would upgrade to a Surface Pen that is a complete rival to the Apple Pencil Pro I will go with upgrading Surface Pro.
@TazzSmk
@TazzSmk 3 күн бұрын
I'd wait for new MacOS+Macs and new Windows 24H2 final
@mohammedridhaabbasyousif2700
@mohammedridhaabbasyousif2700 3 күн бұрын
Why don’t you try a Wacom pen with the Surface pro. I think it will be better for an artist
@monkz3196
@monkz3196 2 күн бұрын
I’m definitely eyeing the Pro 11 but hoping to get a back to school deal in the coming months
@LucaRossi79
@LucaRossi79 3 күн бұрын
I've been using a SP9 for a while now as my daily driver. Not the fastest machine (but in my line of data analysis when I need fast i need to connect to a remote machine) but flexibility and portability are unmatched. You need to join a meeting, it's a nice note taking device, you want to share slide or show videos to colleagues... It's a gorgeous screen, you want a laptop... The keyboard is very comfortable. The only downside has been battery life that doesn't do more than 5ish hours... If arm fixes that, it's a killer form factor.
@mikhailkalashnik0v
@mikhailkalashnik0v 2 күн бұрын
Can surface pro 11 arm run hyperv so we can run linux?
@damonaniton
@damonaniton 3 күн бұрын
Once drivers and more apps are optimized for arm and with a dock this can quite possibly be the only device many if not most people need.
@Louisianalaughs318
@Louisianalaughs318 2 күн бұрын
Battery Life?
@masdi727
@masdi727 3 күн бұрын
Is this keyboard able to hide the pen like the previous version?
@willharrington4571
@willharrington4571 3 күн бұрын
Yes
@chinaman1
@chinaman1 3 күн бұрын
I honestly think the issue is just softwares, especially enterprise softwares, might not work on the snapdragon chips...
@jdneilso
@jdneilso 3 күн бұрын
This looks awesome but I've been thinking lately that I very rarely use a Windows device outside of my job, which they supply. Between my S22 and Tab S9, I only use my laptop when I need to use a windows only program. I think the last time was when I did my taxes. I'm just not sure I can justify a purchase like this considering how little I use my current laptop, which runs all the windows stuff without having to use a compatability mode.
@kzmailman
@kzmailman 3 күн бұрын
I am in a more "managerial" position, meaning, office work all the time, messaging, zoom meetings, google sheets, etc... and I use my Tab S7+ with a logitech mouse and keyb (yes the Master 3 mouse) and everything works fine... connected to my external display and wired network, no problem... and I take it home and use it as a tablet the rest of the time, couldn't be more happy with it. A glitch here and there, but nothing noteworthy
@EZBlast
@EZBlast 2 күн бұрын
got the Yoga 7X - it rocks!
@aashishnakarmi1690
@aashishnakarmi1690 3 күн бұрын
Next gen x-elites should improve 20 percent on cpu and more than 150 percent on gpu to be truly what it was meant to be.
@WarAlex16
@WarAlex16 3 күн бұрын
How do you know?!!!! I’m hoping Snapdragon partners with Nvidia for external GPUs
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 күн бұрын
Yeah.. That would be awesome.. But would would be super awesome is if Nvidia succeeds with the own Arm GPU and partners with Snapdragon and Laptop makers to bring a good and very very very efficient gpu to these laptops.. Maybe not exactly x86 dedicated gpu level, but very close and very very very efficient. That would be incredible.
@bassyey
@bassyey 3 күн бұрын
Even this elease could improve just by having applications built for it. Every developer and company is ignoring it, not releasing native builds for it. Probably will be abandoned in 6 months.
@erikjohnson9112
@erikjohnson9112 3 күн бұрын
@@bassyey I think this time is different. All prior ARM pushes for Windows have essentially failed, but I think Microsoft fully on board this time. I have the new Surface Pro tablet because I'm a developer and wanted to try Windows on ARM. I think Intel has Lunar Lake (is that right) that might bring it back into the game, but I expect that ARM will finally take this time.
@erikjohnson9112
@erikjohnson9112 3 күн бұрын
Btw, I totally agree with the OP, GPU is clearly the weak point right now.
@MikeStevens
@MikeStevens Күн бұрын
Nice. If Qualcomm can catch up to the M Pro and M Max chips, I'll be very interested. Really need more power for high-res photo and 6/8K video editing. Yeah there are workarounds, but I'm happy to wait until that day. I'll stick with my M3 Max until then (and my Samsung phone lol).
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 Күн бұрын
Imo waiting for the Surface laptop 13 & 15" reviews w/ the new SD Elite chips
@fatyak4122
@fatyak4122 3 күн бұрын
I'd like to see Surface Go with the Snapdragon X Elite.
@mohammedridhaabbasyousif2700
@mohammedridhaabbasyousif2700 3 күн бұрын
You mean with X plus. Even though it will not come until next year I guess
@TCPULLEY
@TCPULLEY 3 күн бұрын
Is DaVinci a native ARM app ?
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
Yes, but in beta. It works okay but seems to have bugs as after a while it has issues and is not recommended at the moment.
@TiggerLyOne
@TiggerLyOne 2 күн бұрын
It's basically an i5/r5 performance at price of almost i9/r9 but arm too. Looking forward to its 2nd or 3rd gen when softwares be better optimized so the gap is just i5 vs i7.
@69memnon69
@69memnon69 2 күн бұрын
Sounds like you need to update the firmware on your dock...
@ericgao1935
@ericgao1935 2 күн бұрын
I agree with you! I would say this is the first time the Surface Pro "really" did what it should do. I think in the past few years, the most pain point of the Surface Pro is it does not have a really suitable chip. The Snapdragon X chip (especially X Plus) really solves this pain point!
@catgirl_eva
@catgirl_eva 2 күн бұрын
I have the exact same spec of Surface Pro 11 and just love the device. For me, it's the first Windows laptop I've ever had that can truly do everything! Work stuff (courseware testing though a Remote Desktop connection)? Check. Games? Check. Media consumption? Check. Long battery life? Check. There's still going to be a few snags with this transition from x86 to ARM, but Microsoft definitely seems to be giving it their all this time around!
@Poppingsboi
@Poppingsboi 3 күн бұрын
I’m replacing my m1 iPad Pro and CraigOS promises with surface on ARM.. was waiting since 2020.. but the surface laptop
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
Warning, if you use the SP outdoors, it is unusable unless you find the shade, too reflective. Maybe a matte screen protector would help, but it is a major problem if you are a road warrior.
@TheLilbrat22
@TheLilbrat22 3 күн бұрын
Dang I wish this would’ve came out along side the M1 IPad Pro’s because I would have definitely picked this instead.
@ghekomakmur1605
@ghekomakmur1605 2 күн бұрын
I'm waiting for gaming handheld with this snapdragon
@allisterhaworth6024
@allisterhaworth6024 2 күн бұрын
This is the first product from Microsoft I’m actually considering to purchase, as this is what I’m after now in an everyday device. And this is from an Apple user since 2009. Just wish Apple did release something similar to what Microsoft has done with the surface pro (know they won’t just yet). They have the hardware (iPad) and accessories (Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil) to do it, but iPadOS really limits it.
@cohoonatube
@cohoonatube Күн бұрын
In the same boat. Been waiting for years to see Apple release a touch laptop or a solid iPad OS lite variant... Apple is committed to keeping their touch interfaces and desktop OS' separate... and I have paid a lot of money for it. For the first time I actually enjoy Android and Windows 11 more than Mac OS or iOS. May be moving to a Surface Pro as well.
@deathdogg0
@deathdogg0 2 күн бұрын
I love this little tablet. I just love it! It's so small and portable and its battery is truly amazing, and if you're lucky enough to be blind like myself, you get even more cause you can turn off the screen. This windows arm "revolution" may not be where it should be just yet, but it's definitely good enough for my use case and I will continue to swear by this thing
@Steves_view
@Steves_view 3 күн бұрын
I have the surface dock 2 that I use with my surface pro 11 and it works perfect. I did buy it now paid full price. I use it with my old surface nine so perhaps your doc is broken but a good doc goes a long way.
@magscorner
@magscorner 2 күн бұрын
As a Surface Pro user for the past 8-9 years i am genuinely sad i am currently priced out of the current models, i love the form factor
@alyessamaddox7022
@alyessamaddox7022 2 күн бұрын
I do like some word processing
@kingforkings
@kingforkings 2 күн бұрын
if you can check, check out the temps based throttling because Microsoft chose to force low wrist-wrest temps. This to me is the death sentence. My AMD 8845HS is faster and well cooled minus the keyboard temps but for never throttling, I am super happy
@heygeej
@heygeej 3 күн бұрын
Your audio is superb, i'm obsessed! May we know what mic are you using?
@ertwro
@ertwro 3 күн бұрын
Goodnotes is the way to go. At the moment windows is a second class citizen but it has most of the capabilities it does on iPad and is single payment unlike notability.
@andreaslassak2111
@andreaslassak2111 2 күн бұрын
Try to enable AI feature for GPU in settings to get better gaming performance.
@geekhomeworld4248
@geekhomeworld4248 3 күн бұрын
I would love to collaborate with you. We could discuss current and future devices/tech trends. I have enjoyed your content for a long time. 😊
@aspiringastronaut9992
@aspiringastronaut9992 2 күн бұрын
The fonts used in the Windows operating system interface are MUCH easier to reax than MAC OS
@moustafasayed92
@moustafasayed92 2 күн бұрын
Lack of apps support could be deal breaker for me
@lebombe8342
@lebombe8342 3 күн бұрын
Grab my unit with OLED! Amazing device!
@JohnCross-rz5uq
@JohnCross-rz5uq 3 күн бұрын
I would go for a Asus Vivobook with the Qualcomm Snapdrageon X-Elite, you get much more for your money, at least in Europe.
@Josh-im9go
@Josh-im9go 2 күн бұрын
AHHHH, Coke Zero. I love it. lol. The fans and the battery life are absolutely what are keeping me away from any Windows laptop. Nothing can compete with a MacBook's battery life and magnificent sound of silence.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 3 күн бұрын
I had one of the early Surface Pros and was impressed with the build quality, it was an excellent device, but these days I like the new Surface Laptop better.
@logaandm
@logaandm 2 күн бұрын
Surface Docks can be a little finicky, especially the older ones. Try downloading firmware for it (not always done automatically). Try unplugging everything and plug the monitor in first. If you have more than one monitor, the reverse the monitor inputs. Because most USB devices are turned off when the laptop goes to sleep, it can cause issues when waking up. When plugged in set the Surface to never sleep. I have tried setting USB devices to always on, but that doesn't stop all the problems. Ethernet on the Docks is usually slower than 1GB and it is also possible that stray voltages on the ethernet wire is causing some of the problems. Using a USB3 ethernet adapter often works better. Surface also works well with USB docks. A bit of a shame to not completely use the Microsoft power port, but that's mostly your OCD talking. I've never really had issues or limitations using a USB dock. USB docks are cheaper anyway.
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 3 күн бұрын
I think we still need to wait for davinci to get out of beta
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 3 күн бұрын
This is the most exciting snapdragon computer for me. It’s gonna replace my iPad 👌🏽
@samcurmudgeon
@samcurmudgeon 2 күн бұрын
After throwing my money away on a Surface Pro 7 that overheated any day of the week ending in the letter "y," no, I'll never consider another Surface product. That being said, I noticed a lot of the positives in this review were about the form factor of the Surface Pro, while most of the complaints were about Windows on ARM issues. Mind you, a Windows build for ARM CPUs has been a thing for about 9 years now, with commercially available Windows on ARM devices around for about 7 years (I think). That so many applications are either just now in beta for Windows on ARM, or still relying on emulation to run, with so many PC manufacturers on board is, well, something.
@nickbeau
@nickbeau Күн бұрын
Have a look at the latest beta of davinci... it's rendering is a lot faster
@mademedothis424
@mademedothis424 3 күн бұрын
I said it on the last video and I'll say it here: stop bending the keyboard backwards. It detaches for a reason, and if the ribbon cable under the cover cracks the entire super expensive thing has to be replaced. It's happened to me. More than once. Otherwise, I mostly agree with everything said here. I think the Surface acutally works very well as a tablet, it's just a tablet that turns into a laptop with a single gesture. And yes, those of us who bought into this idea ages ago have always known. We just kinda needed all the annoyances of Win x64 regarding battery life and sleep states and noise to be resolved. Which they have. I weirdly agree that the Pro 11 is a game changer but coming from the other side: it's not a new concept for a laptop, it's the hardware catching up with the old concept for a 2-in-1 and making ti as smooth as an ARM tablet. I love it.
@netnomad47
@netnomad47 2 күн бұрын
Mac Users: Wow what a great laptop! 😀 Windows Users: No AAA multiplayer gaming what a horrible laptop! 😡
@NeKa..
@NeKa.. 3 күн бұрын
Surface pro 11 is a step in the right direction. The rest (or most of the rest) depends on compatible vs emulated vs native performance. Pretty much like iPadPro M4, which depends on iPadOS. Hardware wise surface pro 11 still takes the crown because it can do much more. I don't think Microsoft surface line waa ever about the 'best'. I think the tag line was 'original by design'. Anyway, marketing aside, it still took them up until surface pro 9 to get close to my goldilocks case. I can't use XElite yet because my apps are niche and not supported. So I am satisfied and happy with my 32GB ram surface pro 9. I did upgrade to the new flex keyboard though. Which you can't with apple because my partner can't borrow my apple pencil 2 anymore to work on his shiny new ipad air. Honestly though, it is 'cheap' of apple (or any company) to bring out products that's not backward compatible. So while Microsoft is taking a step in the right direction Apple is going down my value and perception chain. Maybe that's another reason new copilot 2-in-1s looks like a better option to spend. Most of us have to choose one and surface pro is still best spec on any 2-in-1 category
@lespaulguitarman24
@lespaulguitarman24 3 күн бұрын
your crispy audio gives me asmr vibes. thank you
@Piotsze
@Piotsze 3 күн бұрын
So you are just another one week man... 😀
@fredrickbambino
@fredrickbambino 3 күн бұрын
The only bias you should have is for what works best for you.
@PenNBrush
@PenNBrush 2 күн бұрын
2:55 Those docks never work or if they do, always break.
@nauscakes1868
@nauscakes1868 2 күн бұрын
If it can run warcraft enough for me to do dailies while I'm travelling in Europe, I will be stoked. I'm getting older too, so my choice of games doesn't have to be the flashiest with the best graphics. So it doesn't have to be a 10 pound fan machine of a laptop. Just let me run my basic shit on low settings so I can do the "mechanics" of it, and I'll enjoy the flashy bits at home on my big-boy PC.
@0xKazuto
@0xKazuto 2 күн бұрын
Finally, i can sell my intel macbook and ipad
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman 3 күн бұрын
And this vs a Samsung 9 with Dex? Still rocking my M1 iPad Pro 13”. Love it.
@jokjoan
@jokjoan 3 күн бұрын
People still fall for these swap videos? 😢
@name_christian
@name_christian 3 күн бұрын
A whole week! Common! That's insane! How do you come up with such things! Damn.. 7 days.. with a Snapdragon. I love creativity!
@TechXSoftware
@TechXSoftware 2 күн бұрын
I'm told Windows spies on you.
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 3 күн бұрын
The thing I like the best about this review, is Apple is going to see it, and it is a slap in the fact to what Apple is doing. The iPad is an outstanding piece of hardware, but purposely crippled for the purpose of Apple's bottom line, at the expense of capability to the consumer. Everything you said about this, the iPad could do, if Apple had allowed it to do so. This level of enthusiasm could have been directed Apples way, but Apple wants you to buy two things, and not one. Good on you Microsoft. Thank you for making a product as good as you technically could, and not have a meeting internally where you say "yea, we could allow it to do that, but let's not, so we sell more Mac Books."
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
Apple is expected to sell 9 million iPad Pros in 2024. The Surface Pro will sell a few million. Most people do not want a laptop-hybrid-tablet; they want the best tablet, and they use a separate laptop for a no-compromise solution.
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 3 күн бұрын
Most iPad owners don’t buy the pencil. Should they remove the feature because most people don’t use it? No. Having pencil support takes nothing away from those that simply don’t care about the feature. There is nothing architecturally different about the iPad, then the Mac book air. It would be simple to offer a feature, to allow desktop mode when the keyboard is plugged in, and disable the screen. I am sure they have already done something like this internally. And, if you don’t want it, don’t use it. But not having it is a numbers game Apple plays, and not a technical decision.
@osbert
@osbert 3 күн бұрын
Apple will not care even slightly.
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 2 күн бұрын
@@osbert One can dream that something will come along, and force Apple to care about its customers again.
@cohoonatube
@cohoonatube Күн бұрын
This die hard Apple fan boy is certainly considering the Surface Pro 11. Apple is not moving in the right direction with their OS, iOS, or their crippled hardware. Apple is also losing much of their market in China and has never had as commanding a share in the EU... Apple needs to take notice and truly start innovating again. Steve Job's created a trailblazing empire with the release of Bondi Blue, now they are in many ways copying or playing catch up. With Jobs we got iPod, iPhone, iPad, Logic, etc. etc., Sans Steve Jobs we are getting a new calculator and movable widgets as WWDC highlights! Losing their one ace in the hole with their Apple Silicon (Arm chips) may be a financial game changer... and the drama continues.
@Ebenecel
@Ebenecel 3 күн бұрын
The surface pro is a tablet because Microsoft sells it by itself with No keyboard.
@lululemon0424
@lululemon0424 2 күн бұрын
nah, the ship has sailed. im leaving microsoft and de-googling from my life except youtube & google search. in these days of era, privacy has become a huge concern. both microsoft and google have terrible track record. i choose the walled garden
@cohoonatube
@cohoonatube Күн бұрын
Equally concerned... "walled garden" = Linux?
@lululemon0424
@lululemon0424 Күн бұрын
@@cohoonatube i’m no expert, just someone who started to touch computers at the early age. from my understanding, linux is the OS that has the least control from any parties. Apple is the one i referred as the wall garden. i just need a set of essential computing devices to deal with my life. Apple somewhat fits the bill. by far, they have the best privacy practices, the most organized ecosystem structures and are still booming. i will probably change to a “totally” “ off the grid” ecosystem (lack of better words to describe it) by the time it will exist once i have more time to deal with it. i’m not sure if i’m sailing the right course. it’d be nice to hear ur input.
@cohoonatube
@cohoonatube 20 сағат бұрын
@@lululemon0424 I personally don’t believe Apple or Microsoft are more secure with our data… Google is the worst. The only real option to decouple is to go Linux and utilize open source software (which there is a huge selection and user base now). The French government is now on Linux and uses LibreOffice vs. Microsoft Office. I highly recommend Protonmail vs. Gmail. End to end encrypted, and outstanding support, tools, and ecosystem… great VPN and other tools.
@jacksautorepair
@jacksautorepair 2 күн бұрын
It has the same problem as the Surface Pro X, iPad, and Android tablets. If this thing won't run x86 or x64 commercial software like a full blown Windows Intel laptop, then there is no reason to buy it. If Microsoft is competing with Android tablets and iPad then they have already lost the war.
@bekemax
@bekemax 3 күн бұрын
> no 3.5mm jack > "port selection is pretty good"
@osbert
@osbert 3 күн бұрын
> proprietary junk port that could have easily been replaced by... you know... ANOTHER USB-C PORT > "port selection is pretty good"
@xali2008
@xali2008 2 күн бұрын
This is shows how useless iPad + iPadOS is, something that can replace your computer and laptop, but it limited to just mobile apps!
@TazzSmk
@TazzSmk 3 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for proper tablet with full OS experience, Apple failed to deliver, now Microsoft feat. Qualcomm tries again and may succeed, I'm lucky to have Apple Silicon Mac with Parallels license to test actual native ARM apps for Windows 11, and so far what I need isn't there yet native, so gonna wait bit more, once nVidia brings high-performance Windows tablet, I'm in...
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 күн бұрын
MS says the SP is not a tablet, and they do not make tablets for Windows. If their statement wasn't enough, they have now cancelled the Windows subsystem for Android! Surface devices account for 2-3% of the tablet market and prove beyond doubt that most people are unsold on this type of device. They want the simplicity of a real tablet like the Samsung Tab S or iPads.
@4dzxk332
@4dzxk332 2 күн бұрын
Windows was a disability, why would I want to complicate the process even further by using another form of disability upon that. This is just not worth it for the average user, might as well get a laptop that can do a lot more for the price then this. Personally, AMD's Strix Halo will be the new standard for future laptops. Windows on arm still has a few more iterations to go to especially on the integrated GPU side and I'm not waiting for everything to become compatible with it. Not worth the wait at all, this is only for tech KZfaqrs who need to gain content views and use this device to gain that, or a basic highschool student or basic office tasks, nothing more. Otherwise grab an Apple, it's integration of software on Arm is the standard for these device's. Or just grab a tablet, basic tasks just like this device can manage.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 2 күн бұрын
3:13 Windows 11 is "clean"? You just lost your credibility completely
@noah-j00
@noah-j00 2 күн бұрын
are you bald??
@tanmartin07
@tanmartin07 2 күн бұрын
Imagine if Apple puts the MacOS on iPad instead of the stupid iPadOS...
@jamesdominiak
@jamesdominiak 3 күн бұрын
Biggest drawback is it still has windows. Much prefer mac and IOS.
@Utkarsh_1508
@Utkarsh_1508 3 күн бұрын
Windows will get better for arm but wished ipad had mac os, or binned down version of it, like Samsung dex does. It would be awesome.
@Robin-wr3qv
@Robin-wr3qv 3 күн бұрын
Windows 11 is way better than mac OS
@franci2a777
@franci2a777 3 күн бұрын
@@Robin-wr3qvexcept in implementation, coherence, design and consistence, but sure
@ertwro
@ertwro 3 күн бұрын
iOS kind sucks. MacOS >windows at the moment, unless you use Linux, then with Wsl2 it kinda beats macOS.
@emersonhopscotch3852
@emersonhopscotch3852 3 күн бұрын
@@franci2a777 And terrible window management. Let's not forget how MacOS can't actually fullscreen apps, and creates another virtual desktop instead. Let's not forget about the lack of touchscreen on Macbooks (damn near a dealbreaker). And Apple's intentionally imposed artificial limitations on iPadOS makes me go for Windows instead. A true 2-1, so unlike anything Apple is willing to put out (due to their greed and arrogance).
@iseptimus
@iseptimus 2 күн бұрын
It does nothing well. It’s a worse laptop and a worse tablet. Jack of all trades, meh at all of them.
@gundamo_ig
@gundamo_ig 3 күн бұрын
I owned a surface back in 2015, main reason why i returned it was that it could not sleep correctly, I closed it after preparing a presentation and put it in my bag. Went to work the next day and the surface was blazing hot and the battery was drained. Does the new surface with snapdragon sleep properly?
@ArthropodSpidey
@ArthropodSpidey 2 күн бұрын
yeah, but it runs Windows so it's a no.
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