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I Take You On A Tour Of The Electric 2023 Toyota bZ4X

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Out of Spec Reviews

Out of Spec Reviews

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@KyleConner
@KyleConner 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the RAV4 Prime PHEV makes significantly more power than this full EV is pretty telling. It’ll be pretty hard to judge the specifications until we know the price, of course. We can only hope this may be the cheapest long range EV on the market. Because if it’s not, then I don’t see any competitive advantage over the competition. What do you think? Was I too harsh on Toyota? Thanks for watching!
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 2 жыл бұрын
You're right on point. If it's cheap, all some are forgiven. If it's not, well....
@kurtpenner2362
@kurtpenner2362 2 жыл бұрын
Range at highway speeds is the parameter to be harsh on. They are behind the competition and haven't even released this car yet.
@JonMoralesLA
@JonMoralesLA 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way this will be cheaper than competition…let’s be real. I think it’s ugly and the interior again is another Toyota fail. What gives with them and interiors? They just don’t get it.
@Hans-gb4mv
@Hans-gb4mv 2 жыл бұрын
For the purpose and size of the car, it's more than enough power. A more powerfull motor means a higher price because you need more expensive electronics, thicker cables, the batteries need to be able to handle it, ... .
@WRPhotography-zx5dv
@WRPhotography-zx5dv 2 жыл бұрын
Your right, this thing doesn’t offer anything exciting over the competition. They dropped the ball on this thing. Toyota please design your own vehicles and stop letting other manufacturers do it for you. I’m looking to buy an EV this year and the Ioniq 5 looks better and offers more than this thing.
@smallmj2886
@smallmj2886 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Toyota loyalist, and performance guys just don't understand why we are so loyal. It is all about the long term reliability. We want cars that we can trust to go many 100,000's of km hassle free. I drove a Camry until last November when I hit a deer. It had 312,000 km on it and I did two repairs on it beyond regular maintenance (tires, brakes, oil changes). If I hadn't had my encounter with Bambi I probably would have gotten at least another 150,000 km on it. So to be successful, Toyota doesn't need to be the fastest, the best handling, have amazing specs. It needs to be practical, decently priced, and give us hope that it will last for a really long time. We Toyota loyalists see reports of Tesla's with no heat in the Canadian winter, of Bolt's that catch fire, of Tesla's where the flash memory dies from old age, and other EV problems and it makes us want an option from the manufacturer we trust. If the bZ4X sells well it will because of this reputation of reliability. Toyota doesn't need to win on the specs, they just need to make something that feels like a Toyota. When I needed a new car right away in November, I really wanted an EV. But the only ones immediately available in my province were the Ioniq (back seat too small, range too short), the Kona (joke of a back seat), and the Bolt (yikes). So I ended up with a Prius Prime. It was the right choice at the time, and when we eventually replace it many years from now we will likely start by looking at what Toyota has to offer.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Two years ago I had two Teslas in the garage and now I have a Toyota and Lexus, for obvious reasons.
@KenWaineo
@KenWaineo 2 жыл бұрын
I currently own a Lexus, but with the BZ4X, I think Toyota is abusing your loyalty. They know you will buy it anyway, so they trotted out a very uncompetitive vehicle knowing that the Toyota faithful will buy it anyway. I get why people love Toyotas, but don't be blindly loyal to them.
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 жыл бұрын
So you are an asshole supporting assholes who block climate change policy. Is that what you are trying to say.
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 жыл бұрын
@@InternetDude Toyota actively lobbies against climate change policy while pretending on Facebook that they care about the climate. In fact they are so eager to block measures to stop climate change that they are on a list of the 15 worst companies in that regard.
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 жыл бұрын
@@InternetDude so what were your Vin numbers then?
@phillipcowan9392
@phillipcowan9392 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo no frunk then right?
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the already released range figures or what they expect. Its 250 miles for the FWD, and likely a little less for the AWD (220-230). I don't think you can even call this a long range EV.
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota's website says the BZ4X (Busy Forks?) will get an 80% charge in 30 minutes but Subaru says it'll charge to 80% in an hour.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, Subaru is a lot more pessimistic about the platform they've been handed, and probably with good reason.
@jessebrook1688
@jessebrook1688 2 жыл бұрын
It is now officially the Busy Forks to me.
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 2 жыл бұрын
20-80? Under an hour but not specific. I’m betting (hoping) real world will be 20-80 in ~35 minutes
@StevenHoagland
@StevenHoagland 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru at LA Auto Show said under an hour. 30 minutes is consistent with that. Subaru Solterra European unveil said around 30 minutes.
@michaelblue7852
@michaelblue7852 2 жыл бұрын
Damn not sure what to say here.. as you say, unless the price is very competetive (doubt it) this does not look too good.
@danhassler6585
@danhassler6585 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is really one of the first true mass-market EVs. Assuming its priced to compete with the upcoming "30k" Equinox. This is essentially the new RAV4, one of the most popular cars in the US. As long as Toyota/Subaru know how to price this to undercut everyone else, it will sell like crazy.
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 2 жыл бұрын
It's only mass market if reasonably priced and produced in quantity, both seem unlikely at this point
@DougThompson
@DougThompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamespaul2587 Question......I've seen others state this, how do you know it will be in limited quantity. If they don't get the price down to 30K USD. They will be in trouble.
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@DougThompson I don't know for sure but it seems likely with Toyota's ongoing efforts to discourage EV adoption, and new models typically take a long time to ramp production even if parts and battery supply are available in quantity.
@DougThompson
@DougThompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamespaul2587 Yeah, the way Toyota is approaching this I wouldn't be surprised that they will do this. Toyota has really disappointed me regarding EV's.
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@DougThompson yes, especially for a leader with hybrid technology. Nissan is also a disappointment to me, as the LEAF remained virtually unchanged for so many years despite reduced battery costs and other industry improvements
@thomassoderqvist4666
@thomassoderqvist4666 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't impress, but as you stated there will be loyal Toyota customers going for this and if it is anything like the ICE Toyotas it will be very extremely reliable. Very important for some people.
@brandenflasch
@brandenflasch 2 жыл бұрын
EVs are pretty consistently reliable across the board
@melissamybubbles6139
@melissamybubbles6139 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandenflasch Are EVs made by companies known for lower reliability in ice cars making reliable EVs?
@Trades46
@Trades46 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandenflasch clearly didn't see a certain brand that only builds EV have the same low reliability ratings as Land Rover and Fiat then.
@bigtarget9709
@bigtarget9709 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing is more important than reliability. Everything else is useless if the vehicle can’t be dependable.
@belavet
@belavet 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've been impressed by anything Toyota has ever put out in terms of aesthetic or amenities. They live and die by value. You don't look at a Toyota and a BMW side by side. You go Toyota because you want a car that runs forever and that is fuel efficient. We don't know about it's efficiency or it's msrp so we are left with nothing to be impressed by. Other than feeling the pressure of all of their competitors coming out with EVs, I'm not sure what the point of allowing people to look at this car even was. The important information is all still missing.
@AguiaImperial
@AguiaImperial 2 жыл бұрын
Esse tecto de abrir abre mesmo para deixar entrar ar ou é só para dar mais luz ao interior????
@Ekuahx
@Ekuahx 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand this car at all. It looks good in my opinion, but the range, charging and performance are super disapointing unless this is a very cheap car, I don't understand who will buy this over other options like the ID4, EV6 and Ioniq5. Toyota also ahs repeatedly stated that they have zero interest in EVs, so buying one from them is like buying an already discontinued vehicle.
@heyheythecat
@heyheythecat 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the car makes it under 30k, I don't see how this can compete with tesla
@sydjaguar
@sydjaguar 2 жыл бұрын
Half hearted effort from Toyota. Great first impression video
@beautyofgrace3915
@beautyofgrace3915 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, I may consider it, if the price is right. I will be getting an ev this year, although I like the ioniq5 it's so expensive.
@Krylle
@Krylle 2 жыл бұрын
This Toyota will probably end up at the same price - and, it will not be on the market until 2023, as far as I remember (but I might be wrong on both).
@teslabot6517
@teslabot6517 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, This is an all Chinese vehicle- made by BYD. Nothing wrong with it being made in China bur it is simply a rebagded BYD.
@Krylle
@Krylle 2 жыл бұрын
@@teslabot6517 - yes, except that BYD's interiors is significantly nicer.
2 жыл бұрын
This Toyota will come to Thailand, too and it seems that the price will be right (no high import tax as other cars). I also very like the design. This car and the Corolla Cross are the first Toyotas I like. Toyota has a good reputation as a brand and I assume that this EV will be attractive for «normal» buyers.
@d3vp131
@d3vp131 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to pay 50k+ for a Kia or Hyundai. I’m at ID4 or Audi Q4 e-tron sportback. But in 2023. No way I want first run of anything, except maybe Cadillac Lyriq which looks and sounds there.
@Pekirt79
@Pekirt79 2 жыл бұрын
Great look-over review Kyle! I'm with you, there is zero excitement about this vehicle. Good specs for 2016, but way behind for 2023.
@BeechSportBill
@BeechSportBill 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna keep our 2016 RAV-4 Limited
@SkytheKorok
@SkytheKorok 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota really missed the mark on this one. Doesn’t offer a lot to put it above the IONIQ 5, iD.4 or EV6
@john1701a
@john1701a 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota's focus is appealing to their own customer, not enthusiasts. That's why the less obvious trait... reliability... isn't something you'd notice as an auto show. As for the desire/mystery related to more power, look at the RZ450e. It will supposedly retain the 150 kW motor in front and add another to the back.
@thatissomeBS
@thatissomeBS 2 жыл бұрын
Reliability isn't really an issue for electric motors at all. There's basically one moving part, and that's the bit that actually drives the wheels.
@john1701a
@john1701a 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatissomeBS Not motors, batteries.
@thatissomeBS
@thatissomeBS 2 жыл бұрын
@@john1701a They're likely getting the cells from the same places everyone else is.
2 жыл бұрын
The power would be enough for me. I don’t have to show off at a red light.
@mjorn19
@mjorn19 2 жыл бұрын
My last two cars have been Toyotas. I was excited when they announced this because I wanted an EV. Then they showed how ugly it is, then they announced underwhelming specs, add on how they poo poo electric cars. I'm no longer interested, good job Toyota. Going to get an Ioniq 5.
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 2 жыл бұрын
This is the general consensus I've seen too. Toyota was obviously behind. Honda insight obviously copied the Prius. The Hyundai Ioniq (regular hybrid) obviously also copied the Prius If Toyota looked at the Ioniq and thought hmm let's do something like that, maybe they'd get somewhere. Also, from a personal pov, I wanted something Yaris sized, and low on the insurance group too given I barely drive
@trevorwindel5426
@trevorwindel5426 2 жыл бұрын
I’m first on the waitlist for this car at our local dealership
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful 2 жыл бұрын
I realize that the specs for performance are a letdown for you… no 1,000 HP, no rear wheel drive… I will cry with you! However, I am STILL waiting for a tangible, affordable, normal EV that I can actually afford to buy. Where is that vapor ware Model 2 Tesla?
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 2 жыл бұрын
Not vaporware, Tesla has other priorities and limited production capacity to meet demand for more expensive models. There's no incentive for them to develop a 25k vehicle when they can sell every expensive model they can make currently
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the roadster that was announced what 5 years ago now?? LOL @ Stans.
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamespaul2587 I agree. A sad fact of the times.
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful 2 жыл бұрын
@@InternetDude Yes! Another promise awaiting.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronkemperful or the Semi. And full self driving. Cybertruck etc, company is a lot of hype. Toyota actually delivers what they say.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
I have a RAV4 Prime and I’m unsure of this BZ4X. I’m sure it will be quality and sell well but yes won’t wow people.
@chadpurser
@chadpurser 2 жыл бұрын
I would paint the front fenders and rear wheel arches in body color ASAP.
@motch6182
@motch6182 2 жыл бұрын
the Odometer Screen backed off is because they want to help you keep your eyes on the road, its possible this or a future version of this car will also have a LARGER HUD, which will take up more of the glass view (also helping keep your eyes on the road).
@adamroberge1201
@adamroberge1201 2 жыл бұрын
The Lexs is the Rz450 for your information
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 2 жыл бұрын
There are still tons of devices that have usb A. It's still needed to have ports for it
@mtumasz
@mtumasz 2 жыл бұрын
Piano Black Everywhere! To be honest it did not stop me from getting an iX3 because the rest of the car was great. Also, you might notice that piano black in say VW is not the same as BMW, I’m pretty sure Toyota’s will feel extremely cheap
@TheDennzio
@TheDennzio 2 жыл бұрын
Which EV is your personal favorite and why? You might have already addressed this in another video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of like the exterior styling, really don't particularly like that dash layout. With the gauges way out in front of you. They probably decided to go front wheel drive, because the vast majority of Toyotas are front wheel drive so maybe they didn't want to change the driving characteristics too much for their existing customers so they would feel familiar to them. But this thing needs to cost less than the ID4 base model, One thing it will have going for it is that it's not a VW. They're not exactly known for top reliability numbers. I'm sure that ID4 Will be more reliable than there gas powered vehicles. But there's still a lot of secondary systems like window regulators, HVAC systems etc. And things generally cost a lot more to repair on European cars. I don't think we're going to know for sure until we get to actually drive one of these. And get some real specs and driving impressions
@danieldecoucy8414
@danieldecoucy8414 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota is using different battery cell suppliers for the 2 packs, one is from CATL and the other is from Panasonic. But I dont know which one is which.
@jdsreid
@jdsreid 2 жыл бұрын
Fwd is better in the snow than Rwd, so that makes sense to me. I'm not sure why most existing EVs are standard with RWD essentially making them worthless in snow country.
@mfurmyr
@mfurmyr 2 жыл бұрын
In UK the price start at 41950 pounds/56550 dollars including 20% vat. It has 10 year 150 000 miles 90% guaranty on the battery. The car will probably get 5 year 120 000 miles car guaranty.
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 2 жыл бұрын
If that is the battery pack warranty then it would explain the slower charging and probably average performance numbers to keep the battery unstressed while the company gains some experience with all electric.
@lukesblog2
@lukesblog2 2 жыл бұрын
We need to click on these ads lads and ladettes. This man needs to get himself an iron! ;) Great video as always - passion for cars really shines through!
@MrMustangrick
@MrMustangrick 2 жыл бұрын
If this is priced starting In the low 40s It Is A winner.
@ossxq
@ossxq 2 жыл бұрын
37-42K USD similar to ID4
@prerunnerwannabe
@prerunnerwannabe 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that gauge cluster really kills the vibe for me. Also, ~1hr to go from 0-80%? That's like Chevy Bolt level stuff. . . Maybe it'll be super inexpensive or something. They certainly don't seem to be using anything bleeding-edge on this vehicle.
@martinchristiansen682
@martinchristiansen682 2 жыл бұрын
1 hour? where do you get that number from? it says about 30min 0-80 on a fast charger
@indomitablereasoning2875
@indomitablereasoning2875 2 жыл бұрын
No idio t because someone understand long live batteries and electronic 10 years later and your go to go,
@stevesinclair1791
@stevesinclair1791 2 жыл бұрын
Hi good review-Here in England at present the price will be around just below £40k but up to around £50k for the top of the range 4WD model Like you said will mainly sell to loyal Toyota customers Thanks👍🚗🙂
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 2 жыл бұрын
At 40k that's ridiculous when you can get a Ioniq5 for that. You can get an Enyaq for less than that. Both are, IMHO, better cars. I'd say that I don't get it but the simple fact is Toyota put this together in a hurry, they have zero interest in the technology and are doing the bare minimum required to meet emissions regulations. That's this car all over. Half assed.
@Methnerjacob
@Methnerjacob 2 жыл бұрын
“achieve an 80% charge in around 30 minutes with a 150 kW fast-charging system” from Toyota Press Release. So actually might beat ID4 until 2022 MY
@thomasbodegrim
@thomasbodegrim 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like this and it's Subaru sibling only exists so that they can say they have an pure ev in the range. They're not really trying.
@Woburn-RoxburyMedia
@Woburn-RoxburyMedia 2 жыл бұрын
When a Car's named after a Facebook Password, it's not a good start ;) An underwhelming first All-Electric entry by global leader Toyota.
@Nicdomi
@Nicdomi 2 жыл бұрын
I mean.. someone will like it. Maybe someone who is obsessed with Toyota and wants and EV... It's just not compelling to me personally... there are better EV's out there, from others already, and I am sure Toyota will want a premium for their name. Unfortunate, we were all rooting for you Toyota. WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU!
@iKaGe01
@iKaGe01 2 жыл бұрын
My EV has 109 bhp haha. It is certainly enough with the instant torque but obviously not a Tesla. As soon as you start driving a Tesla, you know it has all that power and it feels mighty. This Toyota will probably sell rather well but I'm not sure on the 2 tone look
@JamesKirk1988
@JamesKirk1988 2 жыл бұрын
Your 100% right. Not everyone needs that Tesla power. But for people that do enjoy it, there is no way they could step down to a basic EV as their primary car.
@SpecialKthx
@SpecialKthx 2 жыл бұрын
its just that today standard for a 40kusd cars you need to hit some points, the more points you tick the higher price you can pay for a car : performance, quality, options, range, fast charging speed, good brand, premium look and feel..... your car has 109bhp and was probly worth is price when you bought it but it also must have point other than performance
@mikearsenault6485
@mikearsenault6485 2 жыл бұрын
Looks a lot like my 2020rav 4 hybrid. I am loyal Toyota owner, Toyota is the only vehicle that I have owned for the last 23 years.usually get a new one every 2 or 3 years. I will be going ev when the lease is up on this rav, but if this is the best they are going to offer, then I will be be getting the model y long range.
@gustavodossantosferreira9550
@gustavodossantosferreira9550 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the steering wheel? Should be a different version for that dash?
@jonathan6665
@jonathan6665 2 жыл бұрын
They are now offering 10 year warranty in Denmark, that might be something for me.
@watchingyoutalk6539
@watchingyoutalk6539 2 жыл бұрын
Very bearish on Toyota’s future as BEVs start to take over. What kept people coming to Toyota was their durability…with the engine, transmission, etc., resale value, and gas mileage. People don’t buy them for styling or tech; which the good EVs are known for.
@huggybear1
@huggybear1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle, like your presentation style.
@eyes7054
@eyes7054 2 жыл бұрын
Good job for point that out about the motors. They don’t it to out perform their more expensive gas cars.
@StevenHoagland
@StevenHoagland 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the walk-around, Kyle. I think it looks really good, and I'm excited about this platform. I placed a reservation for the Solterra, so it'd be really cool if you did the same thing for it, although I know it's almost identical to the BZ4X. Keep up the good work!
@updlate4756
@updlate4756 2 жыл бұрын
What benefits does Toyota see from using lower power motors and a lower capacity battery? Less weight, less expensive resources, and less cost. Lower power motors likely means they're either not using PM motors or they're using fewer magnets. In case you haven't noticed, Neodymium (magnet) prices are absolutely SOARING! A ton of Neodymium is now going for $221,788, up about $20k in a week. Lower power motors means less overall material like magnets, copper in the windings, smaller rotor, less aluminum casing material and lighter weight gears. Overall it's likely just a smaller, cheaper, and lighter package, cutting overall vehicle weight; critical for BEVs. The smaller battery means less lithium, copper, aluminum, nickel, cobalt, graphite, etc. All VERY expensive metals who have seen their prices soar this past year. It also means either a lighter battery or a less expensive chemistry. Maybe higher in Manganese instead of Nickel. For a BEV, this vehicle's powertrain should be lighter than some of the longer range competitors; so power to weight ratio should still be pretty solid. The RWD Id.4 is the same horsepower, but the vehicle weighs nearly 300 lbs more. The BZ4X wiki page says this CUV's curb weight will come in at around 4230 - 4450 lbs. That's impressive. Most electric CUVs are pushing 5000 lbs or more. A model Y with AWD is 4550 lbs, but keep in mind that they accomplished that by using a LOT of aluminum in the chassis, suspension, and body panels. I can't imagine Toyota will use much of any aluminum in this vehicle to cut weight. Aluminum prices are extremely high and still increasing. We've been sitting on the edge of an impending supply shortage for the past 3 years.... Hypothetically, if all luxury brands decide to start replacing huge amounts of the steel they're using in their cars with aluminum (See the iX and EQS, with more on the way). Say even the mid-tier near luxury vehicle electric variants like the 3/4 series, Mercedes A, C, and E classes, Cadillac sedans, and small CUVs start using just a bit more aluminum in each and every car. Where does that leave the price and supply of Aluminum. Where does that leave Tesla whose using an enormous amount of aluminum in each of their cars. I guess we'll see. ;)
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 2 жыл бұрын
This is for Toyota loyalists and people who want potential Toyota reliability. Toyota never leads in any other category. They build for reliability which means never cutting edge. And the battery and charging situation will all be conservative for those reasons.
@igeekone
@igeekone 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like Toyota is not taking this car seriously. It could be that it's preproduction, or could be Toyota didn't see EVs being important so soon.
@tomjohnson8737
@tomjohnson8737 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know which one would be better. Rav4 prime or bz4x.
@tashi282
@tashi282 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota is slowly diving into the graveyard.
@jesperhald3969
@jesperhald3969 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that front is going to eat Stone chips like nothing else! I see a potential growth in the PPF- and ceramic coating businesses! 😬
@SWResto
@SWResto 2 жыл бұрын
Some other sites have quoted Starting Price at or about $40k
@Vowllll
@Vowllll 2 жыл бұрын
i love this review lol... it was painful to hear and watch lol.... i don't like it so far... i might test drive it if the price start at $31,000.00,
@peterwright837
@peterwright837 2 жыл бұрын
0-80% in an hour is about Chevy Bolt charging speed, which is over 5 years old now, and it’s about the same range. The only way I can see that selling is if it’s a fantastic value, like less than $25k.
@keithv3767
@keithv3767 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think we’ll be waiting for the next generation of a Toyota ev. From what I’ve seen so far I would take the Polestar, Mach-E, ID4, and the Ionic 5 over this.
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 2 жыл бұрын
Prius-Prime driver here. As much as I’d love to get a Toyota-quality EV, unfortunately, it’s ultimately pointless to talk about the bZ4X. I doubt if Toyota will make more than a couple thousand of these per year. Sadly, Toyota has *_zero_* interest in EVs. For Toyota, it’s just an R&D exercise, and a test of the market. Even more sadly, it won’t sell; feature-wise, it’s already *way* behind the Ioniq 5, and I doubt it’ll be out, in any meaningful quantities, until some time in 2024.
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 2 жыл бұрын
Actually no matter what Toyota brings to market it just sells: that because their loyal customers have no clue what is a difference between a compliance EV from yesteryear and a modern EV and they never cross-shop other brands. Besides, let’s not forget about the fact Toyota brought a miser number of PHEVs to USA market which means they will bring even fewer BEVs.
@ThePoltergeist
@ThePoltergeist 2 жыл бұрын
To quote Homer Simpson "If you're gunna do something Do it really halfarsed"
@markmd9
@markmd9 2 жыл бұрын
It won't be cheap, I think it will be a bit more than Ioniq 5. But the biggest problem is that it will be built in limited numbers and few will be able to get one.
@LarryZamba
@LarryZamba 2 жыл бұрын
I think this will be significantly cheaper than the Ioniq 5 because the 5 is so much more advanced. I see this sitting comfortably at 35,000. If they go wild with the price Toyota fans will probably get it, when there clearly better choices out there for less. And for what it’s worth, people say Toyotas say more reliable but that’s never been my experience. We’ve owned 20 vehicles in our family over the years and the Toyota was definitely on the low end in terms of reliability.
@LarryZamba
@LarryZamba 2 жыл бұрын
@Zero people buy Hyundai’s every day all of the time in that price even pre-chip shortage. Hyundai’s rank number 1 with JD Powers for their technology and excellence in execution for 2021. I’d pay $40k for Hyundai Ioniq 5 and consider it a bargain.
@dragoscucu3128
@dragoscucu3128 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota launched Prius in 1997 and 25 years later they announce this EV with moderate specs. This is similar to what Nokia did with the smartphones.
@Unbox-me
@Unbox-me 2 жыл бұрын
Kyle Can you compare price and performance of Tesla as gold standard vs Vinfast EV. Which should I buy?
@o751106
@o751106 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great. All about the pricing though. Anywhere close to a Model Y, then the Model Y would be my choice. Same for the Model 3.
@borisdemelo
@borisdemelo 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that front wheel drive is to differentiate Toyota from the Lexus driving dynamics. That’s assuming the Lexus version gets RWD. Otherwise, it might just be a manufacturing cost decision since it’s easier to bundle a majority of components into the front sub-assembly and keep the rear simple. Would have been nice if they made room for a spare tyre in that case, so missed opportunity there as well.
@BrianK04
@BrianK04 2 жыл бұрын
so much piano glass inside, they are SOOOO behind the times in everything.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 2 жыл бұрын
That’s literally the company in a nutshell.
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 2 жыл бұрын
@@InternetDude It didn't used to be. They used to be where Hyundai is now. They used to be innovative, whilst not being so ambitious that their vehicles became unreliable (like certain French cars and their dodgy electrics) Then they put their hopes on hydrogen, but at the same time the infrastructure isn't there for that, the car they put our for sale wasn't even a super car, they put very little in the way of infrastructure themselves and they were out manoeuvred by Hyundai Hyundai have actually innovated. Tbf Tesla did too. Hyundai made a car for "every person" whilst maintaining reliability. Toyota are spending good money after bad and it's quite sad to see such lack of foresight from a great manufacturer. It seems they're destined to go the same way as Nokia. I hope I'm wrong ofc
@olfin88
@olfin88 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!
@Somun-a
@Somun-a 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota: You asked for it and so here is an electric vehicle. We hope you will not buy it. We even named it with that purpose.
@craig8638
@craig8638 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is a screen to block the sun that goes into that gap above your head.
@clashwithneo
@clashwithneo 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with this car is that they made this car too expensive to produce, there are many ways for them to make it cheaper like removing glass roof or making analog gauges instead of that stupid screen for the instrument cluster. They could have made it cheaply to compete with a Chevy Bolt, but the problem is that this car is a heavier glorified Hyundai Kona which if people wanted they would have bought an Ioniq 5. This car I don't see appealing to anyone. However I will defend toyotas slow DC fast charging because it is for reliability. Faster charging wears the battery faster. Hopefully this car is has Bolt pricing but I doubt it.
@michaelblue7852
@michaelblue7852 2 жыл бұрын
I will probably still sell well with all the loyal Toyota fans. And there's a ton of them. There's already one in the comments saying he doesn't care about the specs, he just want's a Toyota EV lol.
@clashwithneo
@clashwithneo 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Blue there are a lot of Chevy fans yet GM is losing customers because they cannot out out a product that people should buy, except the Bolt and the Corvette
@0hypnotoad0
@0hypnotoad0 2 жыл бұрын
This will need to have some ace-in-the-hole for it to have any advantage. If they improve the charging speeds and bring the price below the competition they might have a decent vehicle here. Sort of vague with their "under an hour" charging estimate, that's like saying a fillup at a gas station takes "under an hour," we already know that. Maybe hesitant to give a specific time since they might still be tweaking the charge curve?
@bradleyanderson4315
@bradleyanderson4315 2 жыл бұрын
So VW got the small display right as well as putting the motor to the correct wheels.
@JamesKirk1988
@JamesKirk1988 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota's don't sell based on pizazz, power, or any of that. They sell for their reputation for longevity. In that vain, the Piano Black has got to go. Toyota should just focus on comfortable people mover EV's for now, as that's what they're good and what the world needs. Something that is aimed to compete with Audi eTron, BMW iX, Tesla Model Y, etc. should come from Lexus anyways. We hopefully will see a premium version of this with a more exciting powertrain from Lexus.
@Kimbrough87
@Kimbrough87 2 жыл бұрын
You should’ve showed us under the hood does it have trunk space under the hood
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Short hood for better approach angle and better packaging.
@talldave7799
@talldave7799 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that Toyota has NOT started reservations in California but Subaru has already done so!!
@WRPhotography-zx5dv
@WRPhotography-zx5dv 2 жыл бұрын
It better be quicker that the Rav4 Prime, at least 4.8 sec 0-60. Was waiting for this review as I’m going to buy a EV this year and so far the Ioniq 5 is winning.
@babyganga8786
@babyganga8786 2 жыл бұрын
umm u better go and start making ur deposit cause it's a 1-2 year wait
@16kn
@16kn 2 жыл бұрын
wait 2023? it's going to b e sold in 2023?
@jonnymj
@jonnymj 2 жыл бұрын
I like the design but the specs are very underwhelming. I am making making some EV commitment this year... but unless this is 30k or less with incentives this is a no go for me.
@TomTomdog
@TomTomdog 2 жыл бұрын
Is that BYD made? I heard BYD will make vehicle for Toyota
@wizedealer
@wizedealer 2 жыл бұрын
Yo dude, lighten up. I knew that you were coocoo after you commented on the look of the charging port! That is why its covered.... also the design of the display is setup so you can keep heads up and look over the wheel.
@youngmoon8762
@youngmoon8762 2 жыл бұрын
What happned on the fenders?
@bernardhsu
@bernardhsu 2 жыл бұрын
Love Kyle’s reviews
@siruauchiha9637
@siruauchiha9637 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that price will be the key in this. And there’s certainly some things they should update. Such as removing the pillar running in the middle of the glass roof and the glossy black all over. Also probably a car that most might want to have at home charging for if it takes an hour to charge fast (and that’s under normal conditions? Might be longer in colder climates I’m guessing) but if it’s at a good affordable price point for Toyota loyalists. It might actually do well. Always excited for new EVs either way!
@realMysta
@realMysta 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they were trying hard to make awd and fwd be same range?
@felaykasu
@felaykasu 2 жыл бұрын
everything looks like such an after thought. The interior is shockingly cheap looking. nissan’s early bets on EV are paying off.. the ariya is more impressive in every way
@CROX1153
@CROX1153 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing official but I've heard the price to be around $37000-$42000.
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 2 жыл бұрын
That "Eww" at 3:17 pretty much sums it up. As expected, it's simply not competitive. An Ioniq 5 does pretty much everything better and it was released worldwide LAST year. A Tesla? This thing doesn't even match specs with a model 3 from 4 years ago. Toyota. Doesn't. Care. They've done the absolute minimum amount of work to put this together and boy does it show.
@joer4367
@joer4367 2 жыл бұрын
That "Eww" made me laugh. Your last statement is right on-point.
@michaelsekalala8041
@michaelsekalala8041 2 жыл бұрын
you seem underwhelmed, but i think this is by far the most promising EV
@Reddylion
@Reddylion 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like Toyota……period… now I am happy electric is along with hybrid or whatever not my thing. Good for those who prefer that anyway.. that design is eww… but let’s see with open mind about range, power, motor, material quality etc. 🤞🏼
@marcusrose5943
@marcusrose5943 2 жыл бұрын
I read the battery size difference is based on different manufacturer
@smileandlaughs
@smileandlaughs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I felt the same way when I saw the 0-60 time. I thought there was something wrong with me, turns out it's just toyota cheapening out.
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 2 жыл бұрын
Solterra is 6.2, thus, this will be the same.
@ram64man
@ram64man 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate that lower black painting of the front and rear quarter. Please Toyota allow single colour options in the paintwork selection
@bshandyateverything
@bshandyateverything 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I really like the look just needs alittle more spice.
@khill50able
@khill50able 2 жыл бұрын
When will Toyota ever think of the front passenger’s seat comfort, example raise and lower like the drivers side
@azanuxm
@azanuxm 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these reviews, but I would love if Kyle or others recognized the role that brand reliability history plays in customers decision-making. Even though predicting the reliability of an EV based on reliability of ICE vehicles is not clear at all, there's a lot that goes into making a reliable vehicle with longetivity that goes beyond powertrain-related componentry. In my experience, loyal Toyota customers(not me) in particular tend to take pride in the ability to drive their cars longer and farther with minimal concerns about annoying vehicle quirks and failures and visits to the service dept. I honestly would love to hear more thoughts from kyle and crew on these dimensions of car production because they are pretty important to many mainstream consumers but there's not much commentary here in most reviewers channels. I would love to see more balanc between performance, functionality, and reliability considerations in reviews.
@victoryatco3780
@victoryatco3780 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review.
@rkgsd
@rkgsd 2 жыл бұрын
So far, not impressed with the range and especially the power. Performance options from VW and Hyundai/Kia are better. My guess is Toyota wants to see how it sells before offering a performance version. Not sure why they would have any doubt it will sell.
@DavidMortaz
@DavidMortaz 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Subaru shipping theirs in Mid 2022 while Toyota bading comes out in 2023!!!? In fact, Solterra is taking reservations in California.
@Dazhimself
@Dazhimself 2 жыл бұрын
For me it depends on the subaru price and how much you'll get for the money compared
@alankirby3839
@alankirby3839 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any 6+ seaters EVs for under $45k coming this year?
@dishwashersafe222
@dishwashersafe222 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the lack of added power for the AWD version is limited more by maximum battery discharge rate than the motors themselves.
@TAD-9
@TAD-9 2 жыл бұрын
It's limited by how lazy Toyota has become.
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