I have a lowpass and IR-cut removed from my EOS R and I love it. I shoot deep sky with it as well as daytime photos and youtube videos without any clip-in nor screw-on filters. Custom WB handles it all!

I love how in-depth Nico's videos are! Cheers!

Excellent comparison. An important factor to consider when testing and choosing a modded camera is the effect on focus position that the various replacement filters - or lack thereof - have. On scopes that’s not a big issue as you manually focus anyway. But when testing you can’t just swap bodies as each camera might focus at a slightly different point, despite all being Canons. That might account for the slightly soft stars on the Ra, as its pixels aren’t that much larger than the cropped frame DSLRs you used (5.35 microns on the Ra vs. 4 or so microns on 18 to 24 megapixel cropped frame cameras). But where the focus shift is critical is for use with lenses. Will they reach focus at infinity? Will they auto-focus? (That might not be important!). Or if they focus, are they now focusing at such a different place that their aberrations blow up, especially at the corners. Only some mods, or companies that do mods, install filters that retain the original focus point of the original filter stack. That’s not an issue with OEM modded cameras like the Canon Ra, 60Da, and Nikon D810a, all now discontinued sadly. Also, removing the anti-alias filter, while it does provide slightly sharper images, can I find introduce green stars from poor deBayering of the colour image. The stars are too sharp! At least, I see green stars on cameras that don’t ship with AA filters. It would be interesting if the full-spectrum cameras with anti-alias filters removed show this artifact. Again, nice work! Thanks!

Thanks Nico for this awesome summary of the various astro mods! Covers all the salient points and most helpful!

Amazing images Nico! Really like your in-depth videos

Amazing. Great help!

This was awesome! It’s cleared up a lot of confusion for me for sure! Thanks Nico!

Great job Nico I’ve been waiting for this video for so long a lot of great information and very helpful thanks

This is a great comparison. I'm right in the midst of trying to figure out what mod to get on my D600 and this is the kind of analysis I really need to see. I was leaning towards just an Ha mod, but I love the concept that the full spectrum can allow the use of clip-ins for Baader L1/L2/L3, IR, or even OWB filters.

Good stuff! looking forward to the next part of this.

Cool video Nico. I had a "Baader Mod" done on my T3i years ago. It was one of the the first astro things I did. I was glad I did it since I was not ready for a dedicated astro camera yet. Your comparison show a lot and is kind of nice as I agree they are all pretty close and with a little processing they would all be close to identical. The difference is what else do you want to do - get more filters, do IR work, and etc. - Cheers Kurt

Absolutely great content Nico!. Love your work.

Oh awesome!!! This is super helpful, I know I've wondered about this a lot. Thanks Nico!

Really cool and interesting comparison Nico! In-depth and informative.

Nice to see the comparison Nico, I did the baader lp1 and 2 mod myself about 6 months ago on my 70d so nice to see how it compares to the other options.

Great video! Thanks Nico (and thanks for the intervalometer advice!)

I always enjoy watching your channel. Thanks, Nico!

Your work, while always incredibly useful from the very beginning of the channel, just gets better and better, week by week. I'm delighted to watch Nebula Photos continued success and look forward to your work for years to come. Well done!

Nico, first of all, thank you for always informative concise fun videos! Really enjoy your channel 👍🏼 Secondly, IF you indeed are considering Nikon, strongly recommend testing Z6 with Full Spectrum Mod! Really is the best out there atm!👍🏼

Great video - so interesting to learn more about this process and to be able to see the results. Thank you.

Excellent, very detailed comparison. This has been needed!

Really great content. I love videos like these. Could have used them when I started out!

Another great informative video, I probably should have watched it before my mod, but it least I understand what they did now - Thanks 😀

Thanks for the video Nico. I am about to mod my camera and the websites you added in the video really helped me :)

Amazing video and information. Thanks for the astonishing comparisons.

Thank you for the detailed video with those very helpful illustrations.

Hey, Nico. Modifying a cheap used Canon is a lot of fun ! I did mines twice and results were quite good. You can try to do it yourself

Nice comparison. I'm waiting for the second video. I would be very happy if there are more photo samples this time :)

It's like you were reading my mind, I was actually starting to look for dslr mods 😎 Thanks for the informative video, looking forward to part two!

Great to see all these mods side by side and zoomed in. Honestly if I can mod cameras anyone can, just tape the screws you remove to a piece of paper and label them in step order else you'll be scratching your head when you put it all together again.

Great video idea! Thank you for sharing your results!

Already super excited for the next video!

This is very informative thank you so much nico!

nice vid, just remember if you go for a straight full spectrum mod if you use it without a UV/IR cut and have any lens in the imaging train then you will get some star bloating effects - can be significant on bright stars.

I'm going to have to watch this video once more. It's a great reference.

Thank you Nico. A very useful and insightful video. I would be interested to know how the mod cameras stack up against OSC dedicated astro cameras?

You really are underrated sir💯💯. Love your content and thank you for putting all the efforts in your videos❤️🙏

very helpful and great work! thanks!

Nice mug shots Nico 😂. Also good info on the mods 👍

Awesome video. Thanks!

One neat thing with my Pentax K-70, and k-1 II is it doesn’t have have the anti alliance filter. All Pentax needs to do is make a modified camera. With their Astro Tracer function it is great. The K-1 also uses the same Sony sensor as the Sony a7R, and the Nikon D810, and D810a.

Great vid. As a Pentax user and starting astrofotography i have an older tock body wich i'm going to mod myself. This video geves me sometyhing to think about before im going to do the mod..

That was a great explanation... Thanks

Nice comparison, one thing to add from experience. If you modify other brands (e.g. Fuji), they can be more sensitive to Ha already from stock. I had the LPF2 removed from my Fuji and unfortunately they put an IR diode somewhere in the body (possibly for exposure determination) and suddenly I had an unwanted lighting in the lower left of my lights and dark frames...so here you will need to add a special IR block filter after removing the LPF2. Don't know if other brands do the same.

Awesome tutorial! Thanks Nico! Greetings from Turkey!

Excellent video nico👍

Great video and you got some nice hair dude!

Also worth mentioning the Original White Balance clip-ins available for most Canon cameras (at least, maybe others too) if you've done a full spectrum mod; my experience here on a modded M200 is that the colour response is nearly indistinguishable from the stock configuration with the OWB clip-in installed without needing to use any custom white balance tricks, which makes such a camera much easier to use for normal photography while not impeding its use in astrophotography at all. This is of course more expensive since you'll now need at least a UV/IR cut clip-in and the OWB filter in addition to the mod, but I think it gives the best of all worlds. I modified the camera myself, so I put the money I saved there into buying the additional clip-ins ;)

Great video Nico.

Very nice comparison!

Hi Nico... Very informative video as always. Thank you. I would have a quick question if you have any time... I do litle IR too (565 and 720nm) and I have an old FS modified M4/3 Panasonic GF3 (12mpx / 4.33 microns px sze) for that purpose, with an adapter ring for my canon lenses, should I want to use them with it, or the Spacecat51. Do you think that it woud be good enough for attempting a nebula with it ? And should I use any specific filter, or can just I use it as is ? (Or in other words, is the L2 UV IR block fliter you use or any other filter needed ? - Since I thought removing the Low Pass filters to get FS was to get more of all needed wavelengths to better see the nebulas colors in the first place, and here it seems we're putting some back on with the L2 UV IR or others. May be something I didn't fully catch...) But at the end of the video, the comparative photo seems to answer my question, showing full spectrum only although I'm not sure you mention "full spectrum" meaning completely bare of any added filter, as my little GF3 is.) Thank you if you have time for any addtional insight. Cheers...

Great video! I have one video recommendation for you, spectroscopy using your telescope

Nicd in-depth review!

Nico, I am a Canon user myself, and a few of my friends have Nikon bodies. I've got to say, comparable Nikons, and pretty much all Sony sensors are superior to Canon's (in my mind), especially for astrophotography. If and when you try out the Nikon, I think you'll find that as a whole, there is far less noise compared to the Canon. I've also done a bone stock vs. astromodified dSLR on my channel. Your video is great! :)

Ha ha cool! Can't wait for your next video 🙂 The thing is ... I got a canon 600d stock which has a horrible glow on the lower edge if exposure gets past 30 secs and another stock canon 2000d which I now prefer ... Was about to perform the lpf2 mod when a friend sold me the 2000d and sincere thanks both the less noise and lack of glow of the new sensor has me sold I was considering modding it... After watching your video am considering full spectrum mod ... My Samyang 135 was bought as a Nikon lens and bought a Canon adaptor ... Now if your results with the Nikon are way better ... Might reconsider :)

10:16 So do you recognize the criminal amongst these five people? Excellent comparison as always!

Perfect timing for us - I love the Dark Side comment😂 - We are huge Canon shooters in this family - just getting into AP after years of wildlife and landscape photography & videography - planning to get an RA and modifying either our 1DX or 5D3 - struggling with how much it will affect our ability to still use the modified camera for normal photography. Any guidance/thoughts on that from anyone would be much appreciated… Thanks for posting this video and all of the other awesome videos that you have posted.

Well done Nico! You know I’m a Nikon shooter. I have both “full spectrum” and “Ha” modded Nikon cameras. As tempting as the “dark side” is, that Canon Ra is an absolute gem of a camera. I don’t think we have anything on the “dark side” that can beat that Ra. Cheers!

Great photos

Very informative.

Its always in the detail, there's nothing missed out

Hi Nico, always enjoy your informative and useful videos. I started in AP just last winter with a Canon 60D and Canon prime lenses. This summer (no AP In Norway during summer months...) I had a full spectrum mod for my camera, lfp2 was replaced by clear glass from Astronomik. I have done the Cygnus region this fall including the full Cygnus loop, the North America and Pelican nebula, both with a 200mm f2.8, and the Sadr region with a 100mm f2.0, and I am really happy with the results. However, my first target after summer was the globular cluster M13 in Hercules. The cluster show up 'bluish' on most pictures I see. But my photo the M13 is 'reddish'. Is this because of the filter removal and is this therefore a consideration if your targets are mostly nebula, or broadband?

Amazing, just wanted to type "but what about the Nikon which has no anti-alias filter to begin with..." and then the video rolled and said you gonna compare it to the Canons next week. I can't wait, I got a full spectrum Nikon D5300 (naked sensor) that pulls in some amazing and sharp details and I use both a UHC LP filter or just a UV-IR cut filter . I'm myself has no brand favorite, I did use a Canon camera as well in the not so distant past, also Pentax.

Self modding comes pretty easy for me (at 14 so far) and saves a ton of cash. I have been picking up used Canon T3i (and the like) for $100, plus the full spectrum glass for $45, so the total modded camera is less than the cost of the mod alone. Also not "blue skies", dark clear skies is what we want.

Great video thx

Extremely helpful info here. Thanks a lot. I would really care for your opinion on this : I have a canon t3i and a sony a7sii (low light killer here) . I am planning to mod one of them but the t3i will be Ha modified and the sony will be full spectrum. From my knowledge if I add a threaded UV/IR filter I could still use the full spectrum modified sony as a regular stock camera during the day. I assume sony would perform much better since comparing stock low light a7sii vs canon t3i , a7sii is light years ahead. :). Please let me know if I got this right, and again thanks for all the precious info you're sharing! It helped me a lot.

Just snagged a good deal on a Canon T5i. It's heading out tomorrow for a Badder mod leaving the LPF1 in place. Yourself, #Astrobackyard and #Astrobiscuit have been an inspiration to join this hobby. Thank You

Good video. I use a nikon d7200 dslr for a couple of years. It has no low pass filter. I read that can capture more details because of this can be also more sensitive to Ha?

😍 great help

Thanks! This was great for me as a newb!

Great vid.

What goes in the head of those who disliked this video? It should be added to the mysteries unsolved episodes. Great stuff Nico.

best astrophoto youtuber!

With these mods are you still able to capture a dynamic range of colors in other nebula/galaxies or do they limit you to mainly red colors with hydrogen emission nebula?

Nico: I'm going to try out that Nikon and maybe I'll switch Canon: I felt a great disturbance in the nebulae. It was as if millions of photons cried out, but were suddenly cut off. Nikon: Join me, and together we can image the galaxy as father and son!

Great info. Makes it clear for me now as all this was driving me crazy to figure out. I am going to remove just the 2nd filter. Questions though. If you want to use the camera normally again you can get an IR clip filter or one on the EF-S lens? I also hear after doing this mod, Auto focus may not work or you might not be able to reach infinity focus using stock EF or EF-S lenses? Any chance you can go into these issues? Again I would like to Astro mod removing only the IR filter and then also be able to use the camera normally with stock lenses.

Great info. I bought a white balance mod from your sponsor. But I don't understand what white balance setting (oir how to make a custom one) to use for astro after that is done. I have a Canon 90D, and ordered the "1A. UV/IR blocking filter removal with LPF (Enhanced Spectrum)." Thank you.

Thanks for the video. I wish there was an example of the full spectrum without the added filter. I assume that any filter that you add blocks some light and it'd be interesting to see what comes out of a filter-less camera. I'm going to manually mod a canon 1200D to full spectrum :)

Haha, welcome to the dark side. I have a full-spectrum Astro-modified Nikon D810 and I loved it as my dedicated Astro camera.

Spencer’s talked about how full spectrum mods increase luminosity vs ha mods. I’m guessing that’s mainly for Milky Way shots. I use an ha mod only so I’ve never compared.

Great explanation of a sometimes confusing topic, Nico! Thanks. I'm sorry if I missed you saying this but do these mods, even if done by a reputable shop, always void the camera warranty?

Okay so I do need to get and mod a camera haha. Duno if I wanna mod my EOS550D yet though, might get a cheapper one first

Hi Niko. Again a great video. Thank‘s a lot! I know now the difference of all the mods for the camera, but may I ask one more question? Does it make sense to use a modified camera together with a narrow band filter (for instance I have an optolong L enhance clip).?

I am surprised with a Baader IR filter. - it really looks good

Would the full spectrum without the clip-in have a star bloat problem due to the infra red light? I sometimes hear people talking about it

A very helpful video to see, thanks Nico! LOL....typing this as I watched the video, only to see you finally curse out loud, saying "Nikon", as I was thinking to myself "darn it, why is Canon on top of things with their designs so as to facilitate snap-in filters, providing a stock astro-modded camera, etc.", me being deep into Nikon.

Hey man, have you ever done any aurora photography? I might get a good chance in February and I have no idea what to do to get the best shots/videos/timelapse.

I have a gopro that has no filters witch i use with a vintage 135mm vintage lens, i recentelly removed the ir cut filter i had on the adapter and now it always shows a red haze arround the stars... Is the full spectrum any good without adding filters? maybe a way to deal with this durring processing?

I totally agree with The Silent Astrophotographer

Question I use a zwo broadband filter and filter draw on a ed72 skywatcher, is it worth getting a ha or oxygen etc or stick to broadband? Cheers erik

hi Nico, nice video, I want to ask you about the astronomik uv/ir, someone is selling me a canon full spectrum and I want to buy a uv/ir filter, and i saw there are 3 different astronomik uv/ir, l1,l2 and l3, at first glance i thought the best it would be the L1 filter because is the one tha let pass more of the hydrogen signal but I see that you have the L2. which one do you avdice me to buy? do I buy the l1 or better the l2 for any good reason? even so on cloudy nights someone said that the astronomik gives him annoying reflections. thanks in advance, cheers from Chile

thanks!!!

Did you not shoot a modded 850 Nikon at one time? The Canon RA had stories about issues (haloing?). Were they resolved?

Maybe I missed it in your excellent video review, but the Canon Ra has been discontinued by Canon. This is really a shame since it is such a great camera. I love mine and use it for Milky Way nightscapes, deep sky.and landscapes. By the way, the red haloing effect with bright stars near the edges of the frame is essentially absent when using RF lenses. I have tested the RF15-35mm f/2.8L, the RF 24-105mm f/4L and the RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1L with Jupiter at the edges without the issue. The super bright moon did show some of the effect when placed on the edge but the RF lenses appear to work much better in this regard than the adapted EF lenses. Thanks again for your videos.

This is really helpful to understand all the different kinds of mods. I am contemplating getting a Baader mod on a Canon 6D. Will I still need any kind of light pollution filter since they don't seem to sell the clip-in types for a full frame camera? Thanks.

Awesome man! Thank you. Would you suggest an older CCD sensor camera for astro. instead of a newer CMOS with higher resolution? What's your favorite older CCD by the way? Thanks again.

@7:27 im not sure if i see a Blur there. Looks to me more like in the lpf2 the stars are elongated which could be due to guiding error or tilting.

"Switch to the dark side" you made my day 😆 Btw. I am shooting stock Nikon exclusively and although I envy the Canon users for their clip in filters I for myself decided to skip the step of modifying a DSLR all together and save up for a dedicated astronomy camera. I hope that this will be cheaper in the end as I guess that everybody will use a dedicated and cooled astronomy camera in the end.

With a full spectrum mod, is it beneficial to use a narrow-bad filter? If so, which one(s) and when? Thanks!!

Hello Nico, I got an idea for such a Video. Could compare DSS and Sequator? For me it is a puzzle why DSS needs Bias files and Sequator not? Cheers Stefan