"I think Felipe is doing it for justice" | Massa's ex-engineer Rob Smedley on 2008, Lewis & Ferrari

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FULL EPISODE: Former Ferrari, Jordan & Williams engineer Rob Smedley joins David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan on FFS! He talks about his close relationship with Felipe Massa, his thoughts on the controversial ending to the 2008 season and how Lewis Hamilton will adapt to life at Ferrari.
This episode was recorded in February 2024. You can listen to brand new episodes of FFS! every Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you get your podcasts.
Produced by Whisper.
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00:00 - Intro
01:38 - Early years & joining Jordan Grand Prix
11:41 - Relationships with drivers
15:22 - Working with Felipe Massa
18:20 - Thought's on Massa's legal action over the result of the 2008 F1 Championship
22:53 - How will Lewis do at Ferrari?
30:11 - Opinions on current F1 cars
33:57 - Sato replacing Frentzen at Jordan
42:07 - Closing thoughts
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@SpaceHCowboy Ай бұрын

"Stay cool Felipe, baby, stay cool". Rob Smedley the LEGEND! 🙏🏼

@steviemac8075 Ай бұрын

Boys you have battered it out the park getting Rob on the show. The guy is a Legend 👍🏻👍🏻😂😂

@beaujeste1 Ай бұрын

‘batted’

@steviemac8075 Ай бұрын

@@beaujeste1 battered, I’m Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 so fu#€ off

@lamppostwillie Ай бұрын

HHF- One of the best. Would be great to have him on the show. Also, PLEASE get that absolute nutter Eddie Irvine in. The two Irish Eddies in one room would be a hoot.

@rickyprice7586 Ай бұрын

Oh yes. That would be interesting

@sharpsconsultancy2342 Ай бұрын

I was at Uni with Rob we became good friends. As a wedding gift he got us into the Ferrari padock at Silverstone an had one of the best days of my life

@bazmataz07 24 күн бұрын

Boss that mate 👍

@totalcfh Ай бұрын

Wow great to have two legends of F1 hosting a podcast. Thank you DC and EJ for the fun and stories!

@andrewgreenhalgh4076 Ай бұрын

A very easy listen.. and you seemed to have stopped talking over each other! Great anecdotes.. nice work.

@thysmulder1741 Ай бұрын

Great stuff, thank you gents. It brings back such good memories !

@David-ws6zr Ай бұрын

Just flicked on to this to see what Rob Smedley was up to,was actually glued to it watched till the end, loved it ,its great to see people do get on in F1 and become good friends,this was a great to watch.

@TheUKNutter Ай бұрын

This guy comes from my hometown. Makes me miss Middlesbrough.

@stuartmcgarvey9332 Ай бұрын

Really enjoyed that, great down to earth talking from these guys.

@princes9577 Ай бұрын

Thank you ive been waiting for content like that for years !

@user-or4hs7xq9u Ай бұрын

Goodmorning DC, didn’t know you had a channel. Enjoyed your F1 commentary, subscribed

@martinboulden4388 Ай бұрын

Wow - Possibly your best podcast to date. Brilliant guest. ❤

@jeffsteyn7174 Ай бұрын

As a massive ferrari fan. I would stand with massa IF they didn't screw up the race with Masa driving away before the refueling hose was removed. That actually screwed up his race

@andyglastonbury6032 Ай бұрын

Not forgetting how he performed in the following 2 races, especially allowing Hamilton to beat him in a China.

@biljancanin Ай бұрын

But crash gate is crash gate, and Bernie and the FIA knew about it.

@andyglastonbury6032 Ай бұрын

@@biljancanin Other than a claim which Bernie denies, Crashgate didn’t actually come out until Piquet Jr was sacked and he then cried to the press and Media. This was half way through the 2009 season. But are you saying Bernie and FIA knew about this before it happened, immediately after the race (in which case why was Alonso presented with the trophy) or did a Bernie find out when everyone else did in 2009.

@slopat2503 Ай бұрын

Love the show, great guests.

@ab8jeh Ай бұрын

I still don't understand. Justice for what? Ferrari blundered the pitstop and that ultimately lost him the championship, it wasn't Renault that lost him the title as much as he'd like to think that it was. Common sense just seems to be devoid. There could have been any reason for teams to pit, Ferrari messed up pure and simple.

@Gamertrix117 Ай бұрын

Met Rob in 2015 in Barcelona while he was at Williams. What a lovely guy he was, I have fonder memories of that day than with Lewis as a Lewis fan. Also Nikki was amazing to talk to, so blessed to be in the paddock that day.

@xFFSx Ай бұрын

fantastic banter. scotsman, irishman and an englishman taking the mick out of each other, comedy gold.

@dankorolyk5917 Ай бұрын

Fantastic interview as always gents

@elmadi7391 Ай бұрын

This is the 3rd time I watched your channel. I love DC and EJ co-hosting. I got hooked in F1 during the eras of these two great guys. I just subscribed 🙏🏎🇺🇸

@openbabel Ай бұрын

F1 needs the sprint race to be raced by the team spare driver.Three driver teams are the future with soo many GPs increasing on the calender.

@gcmarcrod Ай бұрын

Maby the sprint race should be driven by the team principles.😂

@andyelliott8027 Ай бұрын

That's a great idea, a grid full of spare drivers. We get a chance to see who deserves a full time drive for the future, i'd like to see that.

@y.a.p8951 Ай бұрын

@@andyelliott8027the only problem with that is the team preparation throughout the weekend for the main race and the test driver( spare) crash in and end the team chances with some teams having not enough replacement parts.

@andyelliott8027 Ай бұрын

@@y.a.p8951 Yes, I suppose It'll never happen.

@andrewharrison7767 28 күн бұрын

@@y.a.p8951 so exactly like Fernando Alonso crashing in fp3 this weekend, or the Williams earlier this season, crashing in practice in Australia & Japan? All 3 with regular drivers & not even on sprint weekends - if the most experienced drivers on the grid (Hamilton & Alonso) can have big moments in practice, there's no difference to a test driver crashing crashes happen, so its up to teams to plan for them

@Drenwickification Ай бұрын

Always loved Rob, he seems like such a great guy. Will always remember that ‘fernando is faster than you’ radio message. It was like a big FU to the bosses at Ferrari with him making it so obvious to everyone else what was going on.

@jimmytorbet9931 Ай бұрын

Best podcast yet could listen to them all day

@scottballantine1329 Ай бұрын

Another fabulous podcast gents…

@itsmrripley Ай бұрын

EJ wants to be careful picking up young boys and pulling them off on the Yorkshire moors 🙊

@paarker Ай бұрын

At least he’s not burying them on there.

@Andybarney555 Ай бұрын

Hes irish.. standard

@tube44a Ай бұрын

Love this podcast!

@thatguyfromcetialphaV Ай бұрын

Rob always sounded to me like he should have been pulling pints in the Rovers Return.

@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Ай бұрын

Brilliant Episode Rob, One Of My Favorites!!!! Forza Felipe!!!!!

@r7coo Ай бұрын

He is from Teeside not Manchester !

@user-bx6zm5gj8g 23 күн бұрын

More like just coming out of the Bongo Club at 3 am.

@deadpoolredsuit4892 Ай бұрын

Jean Alesi.. Ha-ha! - what a character! I'll never forget the F1 race, Jean Alesi being told over the radio to come in for fuel. He sensed victory, and refused. Some laps later, Jean Alesi pulled over to the side of the track.. out of fuel. What was Jean thinking? XD

@Alan.livingston 27 күн бұрын

I got into the sport in the early 90’s and Alesi in that scarlet #27 really epitomised it for me. I’ve always loved drivers with shed loads of talent, questionable self control and no luck.

@TriumphRascal Ай бұрын

I’m really enjoying Formula For Success. I never used to like EJ and thought he was very opinionated. Well I think he has character and I’m glad he has strong opinions about things, we need more people like him in this woke world. Great interview and good to see Rob Smedley and hope he comes back into F1. Keep up the good work DC.

@jamtalawah2231 Ай бұрын

Yes I miss the weekend debriefs he used to do.

@joelguapone Ай бұрын

Love your show

@ChrisWilliams-um8bf Ай бұрын

Another brilliant episode

@medialies6254 Ай бұрын

love Rob Smedley....great guest

@griptopia Ай бұрын

second best f1 podcast on youtube, after Marc P, F1 elvis

@gcmarcrod Ай бұрын

I love EJ's growl. Hit like to keep the the growl ! 😂

@kartgrippp Ай бұрын

Grate podcast. Must be longuer.

@richardmortimer8147 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I can't understand what Massa is doing. For one thing, Lewis got screwed in Spa. A commentator said, "If Massa wins, it will always be tainted." Also, how many times could a legal case be made retrospectively? What about Bandini taking G Hill out in Mexico so he lost and his team mate, Surtees won?

@dorianharley2040 Ай бұрын

Amazing podcast / episode

@tonystewart7287 Ай бұрын

Great guest 😎😎👍

@TC2290-wh5cb Ай бұрын

FELIPE BABY STAY COOL!

@biljancanin Ай бұрын

I think "We are checking" is the most famous radio message in F1 history. Like come on. But hey, it's again by Ferrari

@mrorangepeel659 Ай бұрын

Massa drove off with the hose attached, binned it in the wall later, had the clearly better car over a season, and was an embarrassing spinning top at Silverstone. Let’s not even get me started on the FiA screwing Lewis at Spa to bring Massa back into the title fight. I’ve lost all respect for Massa.

@gaycha6589 24 күн бұрын

And Smedley was a charlatan.

@nervo6321 Ай бұрын

Dragged him off the Yorkshire Moors…classic 😂

@frankluton3643 Ай бұрын

We need Rob Smedley in F1 commentary. He is brilliant

@cyberfutur5000 Ай бұрын

Really good one, again! Any chance you could get Heinz Harald to join one of these? (And Mika, please)

@shelbygl0ck545 Ай бұрын

Please get Mika 🙏🏼

@rickyprice7586 Ай бұрын

Yes mika

@stanislavmelekhin6908 Ай бұрын

EJ says about replacing Frentzen by Sato. But that's not how I remember things. I remember that Frentzen was replaced by Zonta in Germany and then by Alesi for the remainder of the season. Moreover, there were two car and with Jarno leaving for Benetton/Renault anyway you can fit both Frentzen and Sato.

@DavidMorley Ай бұрын

It falls into the "if my mother had balls, she would have been my father" territory.

@techtipsuk Ай бұрын

Wish Rob was still in F1 he was / is a great bloke.

@marantamil459 Ай бұрын

Rob is great.

@Gamertrix117 Ай бұрын

The best bit about working for EJ is handing in your notice and moving on.

@brianjames6082 Ай бұрын

I would love to know how Eddie got the Sasol sponsorship

@R1koe2840 Ай бұрын

The biggest injustice was Lewis in 2021. If you look back there could be loads of court cases.

@donaldfarquar 27 күн бұрын

😂 McLaren-Merc shouldn't have even been allowed to enter the 2008 Championship, never mind what happened in Brazil. Dennis and Whitmarsh were cheating bullys. Merc screwed up in 2021, if you think it was unfair following the directives of not finishing under the safety car, you can call it Karma. Like is said in this video, sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. No point crying about it.

@TheGamerTim Ай бұрын

You can see Rob being a proper jack the lad in his early years, great guy, cheers 🍻

@nickofzo Ай бұрын

EJ's "aaargh" is a crucial part of the video's.

@satanswolf Ай бұрын

DC thank you for what you're doing with More Then Equal

@Areah7wp Ай бұрын

EJ, Keen for Oranjezicht Market tomorrow morning?

@davespain7716 9 күн бұрын

When are we going to see Eddie on one of these shows Great video thanks

@MM-xr6tz Ай бұрын

TV GOLD.

@axelknutt5065 Ай бұрын

What’s the giant screw on the ikea bookshelf behind Rob?

@413TomaccoRoad Ай бұрын

I have a photo of the grid at the 2000 USGP. All lights out and all cars in their boxes. 1 car with a wisp of tire smoke on the right rear. ..D.C. Time stood still.

@Reddwarf1994 Ай бұрын

Jump start

@bobbadger8813 Ай бұрын

No need for what massa is doing and if by some miracle he’s successful it will open the door for many drivers to appeal results . Prime example 2021

@user-ie5ke3uj6d Ай бұрын

Totally different story, mate.

@bobbadger8813 Ай бұрын

@@user-ie5ke3uj6d no it’s not and it puts many outcomes at jeopardy. If hamilton loses a title to massa then it’s a no brainer Hamilton will do the same with 2021

@stevetadman6272 Ай бұрын

I ave got so behind with my work so many times due to listening to this podcast and the other episodes before. I don't care.

@mike.tag.autosport Ай бұрын

22:45 Michael Masi is not a racing god...that circumstance was man-made. The '08 circumstance was nature naturing.

@davidmcmillan6839 12 күн бұрын

I worked with ALL THREE of them.

@user-lv2mm7vg4e Ай бұрын

Eddie DOGGINg on Yorkshire moors???🤣🤣🤣

@user-ki4tl5kz4z Ай бұрын

Hello David! Talking about justice, what do you have to say about the movement on the Williams Fw16 steering wheel/column? It would be nice to hear something from a Man like you David Coulthard. Thank you for all the videos with that "mad" pirate named Eddie! Rrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

@velvetjones1856 Ай бұрын

Jordan probably perfected the pirate growl on his Oyster Yacht around the world sailing.

@adampetten5349 Ай бұрын

Talking about Takuma like he's Sakon Yamamoto or Alex Yoong. His Jordan scored 9 points, 2 by Sato, 7 by Fisichella. It wasn't winning a race with Schumacher at the wheel.

@user-ie5ke3uj6d Ай бұрын

Justice should be done.

@wwilll 21 күн бұрын

Takuma Sato won the Indianapolis 500 twice.

@henkjaegerde7591 Ай бұрын

Taku was special. He crashed everything all year then came up with a 5th in his last race in Japan for Jordan.

@KR-qb1xi Ай бұрын

Ditch the hybrids and go to hydrogen combustion V10s. All the sound, almost no emissions.

@mpfour4203 Ай бұрын

No such thing as bad luck 🍀 just bad preparation. I remember Ron Dennis saying something like that.

@andrewharrison7767 28 күн бұрын

Forever to be known for 'Fernando is faster than you'

@SaabJitsu Ай бұрын

You 2 are awesome. If I've said it once then it's worth repeating. Lewis is, at best, a 2x champion on merit. '14 &'15. Massa got screwed on '08, Jenson beat him in a car with a Merc engine zip tied and gaffer taped in the back. '10-'13 saw RBs 1st run, '16 Nico had enough and beat him in equal equipment and broke Lewis and the Merc PR team so '17-'20 he got a compliant team mate, Merc outspent everyone by a wide margin and now that there is a cost cap we see the results. I'm not hating on Lewis but if you go back and watch the races, Google the budgets you'll see for yourself. Merc has alot of money in Lewis from day 1 Nd fair play to him and them, it was not against the rules, but neither was it on merit.

@liamneale1831 Ай бұрын

Your mad

@SaabJitsu Ай бұрын

You got time to comment, then you got time to Google it and see for yourselves. Not trying to change anyone's minds. It's there for everyone to see but I understand some folks blind admiration and fandom for thier hero's, that part of the sport but if you truly believe that Merc and Lewis went 4 straight on merit and not by spending close to 2 billion then bless your hearts. Just look at Bottas. 10 wins and 60 podiums in a Merc. Now he's lucky to get out of Q2. His talent didn't fall off a cliff that hard.

@SaabJitsu Ай бұрын

Here's just 1 you can check. Red Bulls 2017 budget, 200 million. Mercs 2017 budget 450 million.

@Lockwoodbeck61 Ай бұрын

That's a brave post ! , The fanboys don't like any level of criticism being fired at their box ticker hero never mind a full on broadside.😂.

@SaabJitsu Ай бұрын

@@Lockwoodbeck61 I've been a Merc fan probably longer than some of the teamLH fans have been alive so it hurts to see them like this but facts are fact. I had to do the research to find out what went wrong. Now, he has been in a very top seat since day 1 as well so there's that but this podcast has changed my mind a bit. I'll give Lewis 3 championships cause, stuff happens but the big run was bought, not earned. Merc and the 17-20 run is a major reason there is a costcap now. And don't get me started on Michael schumacher, they'll come with the pitchforks and the torches for sure. 😅

@roguecamel1828 Ай бұрын

In Lances Autobiography he mentions Massa

@jeremywentworth1833 Ай бұрын

The very first thing I thought of as interviewed started was Rob to Massa ( Fernando is faster than you ). Was it Alonso's Maiden race for Ferrari if not it was definitely his 1st season partnering Massa. I like Massa but he's wasting his time and money ,regarding the 08 WDC he was world champion for less than 10 seconds and that's how it is plus it was 16 years ago

@matt355 Ай бұрын

Bring Sato on.

@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын

Best Sport💚💚

@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын

Standard

@Obetv01 Ай бұрын

Rob's a legend. At Ferrari. The Fernando is faster than you, was all about the punctuation. Gotta admit, these podcast could be even longer they are that interesting. Compared to Gary Neville anyway.🙄

@gdwlaw5549 Ай бұрын

What’s the story about Eddie always wearing Lindberg eyewear?

@fcojperez Ай бұрын

Eddie Jordan is my hero🤣🤣

@ciaronsmith4995 Ай бұрын

What justice? Kimi was being sabotaged, hated the car/tyres and Massa made countless mistakes. Massa did not deserve 2008 at all.

@Matthew-bu7fg Ай бұрын

I'm by no means a Lewis fan but this whole Massa thing is ridiculous. You can't rewrite history. There have been plenty of rule breaks that have happened throughout history. Do we have to now go back through history and invalidate all results from any grand prix which featured a driver getting disqualified? Well said Rob for putting that one to bed. Speaking of rewriting history, it seems that Eddie has forgotten he dropped HHF for Alesi again...

@pietervanbreda4360 Ай бұрын

Yes you can , it happened a few times in sport.

@andrewbragg504 Ай бұрын

@@pietervanbreda4360please explain?

@ninja12lawbreaker Ай бұрын

Naughty Phillipe, HILARIOUS

@draganpejovski Ай бұрын

Lance Armstrong's 7 titles were taken of for cheating many years after he won. Why in F1 it looks strange to do justice. Many people were punished even banned for life but points were kept. Also with last lap saga of Max and Lewis and banned software that is installed but not used, secret tests etc. That is the ugliest part of this sport.

@FlightData101 Ай бұрын

The team that cheated didn’t win the championship.

@arendeepropertymaintenance Ай бұрын

There are just far too many variables.

@Red5_ Ай бұрын

2021 was the biggest robbery and that was instigated by the FIA and the race director of all people. What chance do you have that being over turned.

@cbyod Ай бұрын

Lance still won them titles, as they were all doping then, lance just did it better. You can't compare the tour de France in the last 90s to mid 00s to Massa almost championship.

@alebangalter Ай бұрын

Exactly, and their titles were not handed over to anybody else, which is exactly the right course of action and still Massa would not become world champion that way 🤭

@RottsTube Ай бұрын

Last time I was this early, my wife got pregnant.

@NicotineRosberg Ай бұрын

U don't have a wife but nice joke

@daniel69 Ай бұрын

Get a DNA test

@smith2781 Ай бұрын

How??? What was she doing when you were making early comments on KZfaq videos ??? 😂🤣.

@fatrick5004 Ай бұрын

Eddie was rambling a lot in this one. Rob…great guest. David is really on form too.

@MichaelKillorn Ай бұрын

It looks like EJ is in a pub!

@TheDavidGoldmanphoto Ай бұрын

I could listen to this guy read the phone book.

@doughnuts_88_ Ай бұрын

Eddie was definitely after a smoke 😂

@manmonkee Ай бұрын

Does anybody believe this Frentzen Sato story?, Eddie's regurgitated it several times but he didn't sack Frentzen mid season for Sato to jump in the car. No Alesi was in the car, if Eddies story is true why didn't he wait till the end of the season? There were rumours flying about at the time of a rift between Heinz and Eddie.

@petesmitt Ай бұрын

David and Eddie have opposite heads; long and skinny vs short and wide; Rob has a normal bonce.

@TheIr2way Ай бұрын

Couldv'e just called the show, people Jordan screwed over

@degeautdfanfirst Ай бұрын

V12😊😊

@londonman8688 27 күн бұрын

eddie was very good a picking up young lads ???

@carlosfreitas6845 24 күн бұрын

Massa 🏆

@charleswindsor1184 Ай бұрын

That was a corrupt conclusion to 2008.

@rusroydon8470 Ай бұрын

Is there anyone Eddie doesn't owe money 💰 to 😂

@NFAQ1 Ай бұрын

I met Rob once, he was a bellend

@Montman2009 Ай бұрын

Must have been a different Rob, as this Rob is the nicest chap you could meet. Calling someone a bellend is pathetic really. Keep hiding behind the keyboard warrior.😂