A message about the facial hair: media.giphy.com/media/8hYQ4XaKHVUcpx4tnD/giphy.gif We’ll be back to business as usual next week 😆

How is it that we are so eager to see someone else experience the same pain we did... It's a very strange feeling of belonging from sharing trauma generated by Jorge XD

Mortius:*laughing maniacally* Casper:*having a mental breakdown*

He did in fact, not Survive this song.

I guess you could say “ruthlessness is Mircsy” 😎

16:44 - Yeah, Polites, like everyone else, went through and survived the Trojan war, so he is very capable of killing. He's just sick of it I think.

"Whats Jorge's twitter?" 😂😂😂 Now you know he's mad!

“What is Jorge's Twitter?” There goes the sixth stage of grief! Revenge!!

This is where I deliver a "fun" fact (actually depressing) and state that Polities last word before he died was the exact same as his first word in the show "Captain"

Fun fact, so rub salt in the wound: this was alllll Jorge. In the odyssey, Polites survives long after the Polyphemus :D another fun fact about the odyssey and polites: while polites is an extremely minor character, he is referred to as Odysseus’ best friend

"Can you imaaaagine?? That'd be crazy!" > not ten seconds later in the song

In Jay's recap of the recap, he explained all the different jokes in the recap (because meta humor) and explained "the obligatory mention of Polites' death" as being "because I like pancakes". 🤣

"A mission, to kill someone's son. A foe who won't run, unlike anyone you have faced before" Not only is sung to the same notes and rhythm to Survive, but kinda describes Polyphemus as well as the infant.

captain :(

The first time I listened to Survive it was strictly audio and I didn't realize the first "captain..." was our sweet boy. So for the rest of the Cyclops saga I kept waiting for Polites to say something and I felt so much dread. so I watched this very animatic and it ruined my life 😭😭😭 devastated for you both but looking forward to the reaction!

The whole segment with Polyphemos relies on an ancient greek law; the law of xenia, or hospitality. This law was so important that it was overseen by Zeus himself - as in, those who violated it would be punished by Zeus and basically boiled down to "dont hurt, maim, or kill your guests so help me" and would in part be 'signed' by sharing a meal between host and guest; eat the food, you've entered the contract, and now xenia protects you both. Now, my only source for what I'm about to say is a translation of the Odyssey I read so I can't vouch for the accuracy, but according to xenia, those who requested your hospitality were to be lodged and fed for three days before the host could ask them their name or business. Strike one against Polyphemos, who asks this question right out the gate. Then there's the concept of guest gifts - as part of hospitality being exchanged, host and guest would exchange gifts upon their meeting, usually something valuable. Strike two against Polyphemos, who decides his guest gift to Odysseus will be eating him last which. Is not a guest gift due to the very spirit of xenia. Obviously. (Side note; this is also the crux of the Underworld, where if you eat the food, you're Hades's guest - which means you never leave) Anyway while us modern folk would think Polyphemos justified in demanding who tf is up in his house killing his animals and threatening violence, by ancient greek standards this made him a thug, and notably a bad host deserving of some eye-poking. (Oops this got long- But I felt context adds another layer to the song so here it is uwu) (Also, in the translation I read, Poseidon visits Polyphemos after the ordeal while Odysseus is on the raft sailing away from [spoilers] and once he learns what a terrbile host his son was he essentially drops his grudge which is. Fair, I guess. If a bit late lmao)

using odysseus's 'what 🤨?' from gigi's puppeteer to censor casper is so funny for no reason lmaoooo

Mort first going "oh wow can you imagine he died haha thatd be so sad luckily he's still standing" and then revealing he showed him my light before this? Villain.

Neither of these men are prepared for the Underworld Saga

Okay but Mortius dramatically lipsyncing during Polyphemus is *such* a mood and totally me when I'm introducing my friends to new music/covers 😂

Polyphemus couldn't have passed out sooner, he had to hit his verse, traumatize Odysseus, then pass out.

23:04 I feel like he's thinking "Those Lotus Eaters knew about this guy, didn't they? Lying little jerks."

Wait. With Polites giving Odysseus a hand, Im staring at that frame more and Odysseus is on the ground kneeling holding onto 2 bloody swords. His hands are full. To grab polites's hand he would need to drop a sword.

"what is Jorge's twitter" had me dying!!! 😂😂😂😂

I feel like the "I'm so glad we see eye to eye." comment really didn't help Odysseus's attempt to get out of this situation with no bloodshed.

The pancake saga 🥰🥞

The fact that Jorge memes the Polities trauma is kinda low key funny and heartbreaking

Him having the exact same face as Odysseus after seeing polites die is flawlessly tragic

"My favorite sheep." Odysseus will eventually get a taste of that medicine (somewhat) when he returns to Ithaca. Jay said that Odysseus's dog Argos isn't directly mentioned in the music, but he wants the dog to appear once in one of Telemachus's songs.

I saw another animatic that Polites died because Polyphemus was going to kill a lotus eater. He died protecting that lil' baby. Though I forgot whose animatic it was, I remember how heartbroken I was since it was also *the* animation that made it clear to me that Polites was the one who died first since I only listened to the audio.

He is NOT ready for this song. 😭😭😭

Casper was so done and broken lmao "What's Jorge's twitter?" Just took me looooool running to his channel to see the rest this is AMAZING! Mortius you bad bad person you enjoyed every second of thus and you know it lol

The way his smile instantly fades when Polites dies 🥲

When he suddenly said "What's Jorge's Twitter?" Got me so bad 😆 you know he is not happy on this one 😭☝🏻

32:09 the smile drop omg😭😭

God I love that we all have the same reaction. The immediate. “No no no, there’s no way it’s too soon” trying to find anyway for him to not be gone followed by just IMMEDIATE devastation

"A Trade you see? Take from you like you took from me!"

I don't think he's ready for Remember Them and My Goodbye.

I once read on insta a comment that said something like "If someone came into my house, killed my dog to EAT IT and then try to apologize by giving me a soda, I'll be pretty pissed too" so yeah, not cool Odysseus, you killed his pet so that's what u get 🤷🏻‍♀️

36:11 MORTIUS YOU... YOU... HOW COULD YOU

HIM STARING AT THE CAMERA IN THE END LMAO

When the cyclops said “you shall be the final man to die” and Casper’s smile dropped

36:10 you really start your villain saga with that last word you just said now. We know he does not know you are a villain (continue to be this way 🙏 )

The way Survive frames it the cyclops sees Oddy be lifted up by Polites, the zoom in and then shortly after he becomes the first death. I wonder if the animatic is framing it as the cyclops notices they have a stronger bond then most and goes after Polites with the intent of cause as much harm as possible to the man who in his eye wronged him more than any other.

fun fact: Polites didn't even die in the fight with Polyphemus in the odyssey. He died later, in what is saga 6 of EPIC

Im sure mortius already knows, but I recently put together that Polyphemus and Poseidon has musical similarities in that they both have their names chanted in their introduction.

39:30 Going through depression rather… *casper thinking really hard* WHATS JORGE’S TWEETER?! I LOVE CASPER SO MYCH OMG!!!

I'm placing this comment on Casper's video too, but a little Greek insight to Remember Them. In Greek belief, for someone to pass over the River Styx and make it to the Underworld, they have to pay the Ferryman, Charon. That payment is typically buried with their body. There wasn't time to bury the fallen men. Odysseus knew his men and Polites would have no afterlife. He knew there was nothing he could do, except.. Remember Them.

there is a saying that the biggest heroes are also the biggest villians. it just depends on from what perspective you look at them. heroes sometimes have a higher kill count than the villain of the story.

The verses in survive have the same tune as zeus in the horse and the infant, which is cool since zeus was the one giving instructions before but now Odysseus is in the same tune

32:12 That face drop and smile of glee is hilarious

I've seen mircsy's animatic several times, but I never noticed until now that Polites actively throws down his sword. 😭

Actually Polites is mentioned only twice in the Odyssey, once when Odysseus is recounting his companions and dubs him as "his closest friend" and the other when they're exploring Circe's island. That's it. That's his character. All the rest is Jay's thing.

Oh also if you noticed! Before Polites gets struck down, he is facing away from the cyclops(he turns around just before getting flattened). He dies partially because of his refusal to participate.

8:39 one thing I haven’t heard anyone mention is that, in the context of raising animals, “favorite” means some combination of “this is the best one I have” and “this is the one I breed the most from” and “this is the First one I ever got” AND “this is my pet”. Basically, Odysseus and crew killed Polyphemus’ Starter Pokemon. Just to make the Cyclopses response make more sense emotionally. That was something it took me about fifty listens to realize myself. Man this musical is good.

39:34 well..welcome to the Epic saga :"DD

The video picture and title leads me to believe CFR is as emotionally devastated as I think you might have been the first time watching Survive /lh

Mr jalapeño really puts a kick in his songs😭

Your uploads give me so much genuine happiness it’s crazy. I love your absolutely evil laughter. The way his face just dropped at the word ‘Die’ in Survive, you could *feel* the ‘oh shit’ going through his mind.

I believe the red eyes are symbolic to their willingness to kill. The cyclops started with red eyes, odysseus was first of the crew and he riled up the crew. Polites was the only one without the red eyes, instead white for peace.

Even knowing it had to be coming from the first few lines he has due to general genre awareness, that first named character casualty hits like a ton of bricks. It just goes to show what an incredible job the music and the art do together to pull you into these people's stories and make you care about them even if you know it's gonna sting. side note: As someone with a background in raising herd animals(never had sheep myself but I had friends and neighbors who did, while I grew up around my mother's horses, and my brother and I raised goats, which are kind of similar to sheep but more independent and sassy) you really do reach a point, very quickly, where they are individuals to you and also your babies, and you will fight any and all threats to their safety, up to and including god, with your teeth and fists if that's all that's handy. So while I don't agree with his methods, I 100% understand where Polyphemus is coming from in this saga, and it's not so much cyclops behavior as it is average farmer/shepherd behavior. That's just how it is. You defend your flock or herd to the best of your ability, because they need you and they trust you. To be fair, at this point, that's what Odysseus is doing, too.

I’m so sorry you had to go through this, but it’s a rite of passage. So now, Welcome to the Tauma Train driven by Mr. Jalapeño. 32:08 Why is it so funny to see other people so traumatized? Seriously, I think I need help! I started giggling at 33:22!

OMG Gigi is going to upload her Monster animation!! must have it in your reaction of the underworld said he was going to connect it with his animation of The Horse and the Infant! By the way, I'm loving these new collaborative reactions. It's great to see you being able to contribute new information now that you're involved in the fandom and Casper's reactions are so genuine and destroyed haha

36:10 YOU YOUUUUUUUUUU YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID RIGHT THERE

Oh this is going to hit hard… (Especially for our sunshine boy)

Random thought 25:19 Maybe it was choice made because Zeus is also the God of hospitality, since they entered the Cyclops home.

Mortius you did Casper so dirty.. that was so cruel. I couldn't stop cackling.... then you had the audacity to call back Ruthlessness though he doesn't know it yet....

OH. He is not ready

I love that they are doing this together ❤️ it’s always better to suffer with a friend

You are eeeeeeeeeeeevil, Mortius! Evil I say! xD that poor man (hehehehe)

32:07 the way his smile immediately fades once he realizes what happened is so funny

The fact we all took a moment of silence for Polites

He’ll definitely won’t survive this

Bro not putting Polities final moments as the Thumbnail :'D

Welcome to the genre of Tragedy, where the good die early and the heroes lose to themselves.

The beauty of wanting to not suffer alone :D

By ancient Greek standards Polyphemus's violations were even more egregious, with him in the wrong and violating xenia from the beginning. But by modern standards he was still in the wrong after he accepted the wine. Odysseus stated the terms for him receiving the wine were them leaving alive. By drinking the wine he accepted those terms, only to immediately change them and decide he was going to kill all of them. That makes him a thief as well as a murderer, using the personal injury he received as justification. To remain sympathetic and on the right side of things morally he would have had to decline the wine and refuse the terms, citing the fact they weren't enough compensation.

Are we bad people for looking forward to his reaction to Polites dying? Love these videos

5:30 i've never seen your light either and just had to pause and watch it real quick and man🥲 now i'm crying even harder at his death why would they do this to us shshsh i really wish it wasn't cut and was kept in it's such a sweet songg T^T thanks for bringing it to my attention man! I'll have to listen to it moee often😩👌

I went back to look for the horns on his shadow you mentioned in "Polyphemus", and for those who didn't see it at first like I didn't, 16:16 is where it's at.

My favourite headcannon is that Polyphemus definitely at least doubletapped Polites.

"I LOVE Polites!" To "Life and existence is pain and suffering."

Oh, the difference two days can make. Mortius, you sadist.

19:22 I don't think that's it. I think he was insulted by the trade, overhyped wine for his favorite pet, so he decided to punish Odysseus further, echoing his father.

Oh my God, watching his face go from, "Oh, everything's great", to "Holy shit!" during the very end of the Cyclops song was hilarious!

Like I said, the entirety of Epic is trying to deal with the trauma from the Cyclops Saga.

Poor man.. I already feel bad for him XD

16:16 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT MIRSCY'S GENIUS. THIS FRICKING SILHOUETTE IS ATHENA. ABSOLUTE GENIUS.

one thing that kinda broke me when I started watch the fan animations is the parallel scene in mircsy's Warrior of the mind were they are fighting the boar and Odysseus is able to save Polites from the changing boar vs Survive where the scene is setup the same but Odysseus cant save Polites from the cyclop's club

The thing is, Poisidon is also known as the father of monsters which is why the character design for the cyclops is so cool and why the coming chaos is soo good.

okay i’m not even five minutes into the video, and i just have to say: showing him “your light” RIGHT before “survive” is SO RUDE and i love it lmao

Fun fact about the prowler theme it’s the sound of a baby elephant noise but distorted and that that distortion is distorted and this continues until we get that theme for the prowler

This is truly Mortius' villain arc Showing him "Your Light" before this is RUTHLESS

"It's... it's..." *war flashbacks* "𝐑𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬"

"NO DYING ON ME NOW" Well some of them didn't get the memo

oh god that little message at the start has me weezing while at the same time want to cry

"I hope Polites has a good life" stares in [spoilers] saga. oh he's gonna enjoy that song when you get to it

When offering the wine you can tell from the animation that everyone knows there’s a trick being made. But what I really love is that you can almost tell from the singing as well, that it’s not just a desperate attempt to trade for their lives but he’s also hiding something. Or maybe my mind is playing tricks due to knowing the story. Though I’ve often felt like I’m better at understanding tone than body language.

24:26 I also perceived this as the infant being a (potential) future enemy that is the son of a present enemy and the cyclops being a present enemy who’s the son of a future enemy.

I just realized something. In Polyphemus, Odysseus says "Why would the lotus eaters pass up on all this food" as if there's no possibility that they just prefer Lotus because they've been mind controlled by it.