I Thought This Was A Chibson... But It's Complicated | Guitar Hunting w/ Trogly
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:16 - A Very Odd 1983 Gibson Les Paul Custom
2:52 - It's Real?!
6:17 - The Conclusion
7:09 - Heavily Modified Vintage EB-0
8:29 - Lawsuit Ventura Les Paul Blonde Beauty
10:29 - 1992 Les Paul Custom Heritage Sunburst
11:18 - 3 Pickup 1978 Les Paul Custom
12:50 - 1959 Les Paul Special DC Inverness Green
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7:19 1967 Gibson EB-3 Electric SG Bass Faded Cherry
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12:04 1978 Gibson Premium Color Catalogue
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@Trog 2 жыл бұрын
That first guitar certainly has a story behind it... 🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com 🔴Reverb: reverb.com/shop/troglys?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly ❓Private Help Sessions: troglysguitarshow.com/help-appraisals/
@jonlennon3348 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like he either rolled the finish on or dipped in a bucket with varnish and dirt. I think it is a fake.
@Trashslayer76 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that on Ebay too. I was thinking "From what I've learned from Trogly, that can't be real"🤣
@stereoroid 2 жыл бұрын
“Select by EMG” is to EMG as Squier is to Fender, basically. Licensed copies, passive as others said.
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
Wallmart
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Best Comment EVER
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@haywoodjablowme699 2 жыл бұрын
The tailpiece is in the wrong spot on that Blood Orange. Gibson tailpiece are above the nearest volume knob when held upright. That's a fake.
@silverXnoise 2 жыл бұрын
Good spot. It’s clear just from comparing it to the other LPs in this video. I also thought the finish looked like it was done way too thick by someone who doesn’t know how to fill in the grain and sand properly. Pitted, uneven, just awful.
@OkFixer 2 жыл бұрын
yes, huge tell
@scootsmctoots8862 2 жыл бұрын
I love the lawsuit guitar stuff. You should take a dive into it because its a fun historical look into what was most peoples first guitars.
@randyheath8566 2 жыл бұрын
Austin is in His House 🏠 of AWESOME Beautiful Guitars 🎸 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Randy is in the House
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Randy in the house
@brianfurry9542 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the EBO, so worn, dirty, over modded but yet very cool. I see potential for that one!! Thank you Trog!!
@baorozzo 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t find that on ebay, even on the sold one…
@mike02614 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@Greg-vd5om 2 жыл бұрын
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Greg in the house
@gethinap 2 жыл бұрын
Trogly! Trogly! Trogly!
@princequestly2218 2 жыл бұрын
That Ventura MIJ was awesome for 695 that a sweet guitar and a great player. I’ve got a couple 70s MIJ ibanez Gibson law suit era and they are phenomenal guitars. The craftsmanship on MIJ stuff in that era is some of best.
@luminousbrilliance1711 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I was going to say to Trogly-chances are that's a Matsumoku MIJ Ventura-I have one of those-and they are epic. They can be so rare that even Trogly has never heard of them. They shred. Mine's a a 1971 Black Beauty. 🙂
@cyrilchi6452 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@joermnyc 2 жыл бұрын
There’s an Orville EB-3 from the 1990s on Reverb, it’s got the traditional varitone setup, unlike the “SG Bass” they’ve been selling now, and it’s short scale (Unlike the last Epiphone EB-3 which was full 34” scale and just made the neck dive worse.)
@sydrose13 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Gibson fit and finish quality us guys who grew up in the 80s know all about
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
Haha same as Dutch Egmond (Martin company) you knew from 100 meters 1every hunderd where great even Jammn it👍😊👍
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
Oah ya
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@Jester-Riddle 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the old roadworn EBO ... (I have a weakness for it only as my first Bass was a fair EBO copy ... not because of it's tonal characteristics ! Mind you, it would be fascinating to hear the tonal range from the additional pickups ...).
@dw7704 2 жыл бұрын
My Les Paul copy has the open book headstock & pancake body Different brand Would have liked to have seen a picture of the neck plate
@lexrichardson7820 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah-! Troglodytes
@nolarocks 2 жыл бұрын
The volume knobs on that Gibson are the first tell-tale sign, no?
@lazvt8469 2 жыл бұрын
yep, the neck volume know is an inch too far north...close to the top of the guitar.
@williamking576 2 жыл бұрын
Austin, the arrangement of the knobs in relation to the stoptail is incorrect. Gotta be a replica.
@ConvexSpade 2 жыл бұрын
9:40 That's trapezoid, not parallelogram.
@johndelgadillo2815 2 жыл бұрын
Thise are select by emg which are passive emgs which sound great in my experience
@69goldtop14 2 жыл бұрын
Whys the stop so far past the knobs
@mophead7759 2 жыл бұрын
trogly’s daily uploads bring me much joy and anticipation. thx for the great content!!
@MikeE- 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really want to buy a dc special one day. That refin was nice. I liked the wine red custom too
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
The better the wine the better the..
@matthewsabin1841 2 жыл бұрын
it could be an employee in Kalamazoo using up parts before losing his job. being from the Kalamazoo area I've heard stories of guys doing that
@myoptik3x103 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, if I could know the back story behind that SG Franken-bass I would totally buy it. I think it would be better marketing to just list it at a higher price and claim that the shipping is free though.
@caseysmith544 2 жыл бұрын
Ventura still has a model of Guitar of their own under the Kaman or now Ovation in 1983 with a single Ventura model Ovation at least in the 2000's. Just looked that up.
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
#10 Wooo WHooo
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Top 10. Great job brother.
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgt.grinch3299 I try! I'm gonna lose my mind, 9:49, Trapezoid, NOT Parallelograms.................sigh
@thecanadianbassgearshow3332 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to buy the EB0 but the seller does not ship to Canada ..
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
Walllmart third place
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on making the podium today. Enjoy your Bronze Medal for today.
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Very Close
@RussBMCSGT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so Triumph Motorcycles & Gibson Custom Shop worked together to make a 1959 Les Paul Standard & it’s pretty cool looking, maybe try & get a hold of one to review & demo?
@MattSmithMe 2 жыл бұрын
Gibson does have a database. I own an ‘81 LP Standard, and a ‘77 Flying V, and I have spoken to them more than once about these guitars. They were able to identify them.
@mikejackson6751 2 жыл бұрын
Love your show keep the content coming
@dalekoster9955 2 жыл бұрын
I owned an Ibanez Les Paul Custom in tobacco sunburst with a set neck in 1980. IMO it was 98% as good as my 78 Gibson LP custom with the same finish. Wish I had kept it as set-neck Ibanez’s are hard to find these days. Would love another one 40+ years later. The Super 80 pickups were killer.
@zigzagrz 2 жыл бұрын
That questionable Gibby, due to the placement of the neck, is it still a 24.75" scale or is it now 25.5"?
@monmixer 2 жыл бұрын
Obvious to see where Hamer got the Sunburst and Special design, that Les Paul double cut.
@DDE_ADDICT 2 жыл бұрын
the volume knob is to far forward of the tail piece
@bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708 2 жыл бұрын
Trogly, get former governor of the State of Minnesota Jessee Ventura,to ride in a Pontiac Ventura driving down Ventura boulevard, listening to America playing "Ventura Highway" while strumming a Ventura Les Paul !
@PikkaBird 2 жыл бұрын
I think what sticks out to me on that "Custom" is that the binding is just way too wide, it looks like it's something like 1.5 times too wide and makes the top look ... "cramped", sort of.
@monmixer 2 жыл бұрын
That B string is almost touching the tuning peg for the high E
@hannoverfist5628 2 жыл бұрын
That bastard EBO was up on eBay too…..high bid was like 770……but then it was put up for auction again right away…..missed the reserve I guess?
@Dan.Solo.Chicago 2 жыл бұрын
10:22 Using a water bottle as an improvised neck rest is actually pretty clever. Full or empty, as long as the cap is on tight it’s all good. Empty might be the safer option.
@honkytonkinson9787 2 жыл бұрын
I use a shoe sometimes, or a pair of pants wrapped around a small book
@DavidHBurkart 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ride!
@alpeterson 2 жыл бұрын
Those were EMG Select pickups, which are passive, and also sound like absolute rotten dog turds. If you don’t like EMG’s you’ll reeeeeeeeeally hate their cheap junky pickups.
@saltpeter7429 2 жыл бұрын
I had EMG selects in an 80's Epiphone Spotlight I think it was called. It had a Steinberger trem and it was neck through. Really good guitar, buy yes, absolute Dog doo pickups.
@cryptoesquire3168 2 жыл бұрын
The listing has updated... '57 Classics pickups from 2011....
@9372duffy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@kc0lif 2 жыл бұрын
i like les paul custom and similar. i got a livewires les paul custom.
@lazvt8469 2 жыл бұрын
The knobs LEPT out...Waaaaay off.....especially the one closest to the stop bar....the neck volume.
@hectormutton2542 2 жыл бұрын
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@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Peace Peace Hector
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
✌️✌️ Peace Hector ✌️✌️
@hectormutton2542 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgt.grinch3299 ✌️
@hectormutton2542 2 жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 ✌️
@fairguinevere666 2 жыл бұрын
"Why did they sink the shaft of the pot through the knob" looks like a Big Boncc, as someone I know would put it. Just a good smack on a hard surface maybe? The chipping looks like blunt force.
@Davidckennedymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yah
@briansmythe3219 2 жыл бұрын
wow Good Info There Trogladies Thanks or that , I like learing about these things , Take Kare
@acoffeewithsatan 2 жыл бұрын
Former Gibson CS employee? Judging by his craftsmanship, I guess someone was rightfully fired off the plant!
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
Hehehe eh shitty shops first lose good personnel hehehe👍🤣👍
@acoffeewithsatan 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterghee1 yeah, sure! Judging by the headstock and the gap at the humbucker that could fit a 24 fret neck, they really missed out on the marketing opportunity of having Stevie Wonder as a master luthier!
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
@@acoffeewithsatan I'm sure his hands make a masterpiece anyway 😁
@haydenramos8629 Жыл бұрын
I have a Jay Turser sg with an ebony finish. It has guitar fetish p90s in it. And it plays amazing. My dad has more guitar knowledge and he says that it almost beats my Jackson in a close game.
@chriswhite9218 2 жыл бұрын
Watching made me thing of mine I have an 70's les Paul copy I think it had no name on headstock looks like humbuckers in it but are single coil!! I had to sand it because when I got it the paint work was damaged, it's a ply body, with really nice figuring on neck, (bolt on)I have no idea what it is can anyone help me?😁👍
@Riverdeepnwide 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I had an El Degas bolt on white ply LP copy, gold plating, humbuckers. Pretty good. The guy I gave it to forty some years ago still plays it! If remembering correctly, I think I had heard that a manufacturer shipped the same model in batches to various companies and stores around the world who would then decal their own unique name ID on the guitars.
@chriswhite9218 2 жыл бұрын
@@Riverdeepnwide I can't find any markings on it at all , it supposed to be a custom model, ( first fret inlay, binding on body neck and headstock)
@jonathanhudak2059 2 жыл бұрын
What a fun episode to watch, lots of cool Les Paul's and IDK but that 82/83 Les Paul just seems like there's something fishy going on with that one, let the buyer beware!
@kirkwahmmett1666 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny I was in the middle of the Gibson Icons Tonny Iommi interview when you uploaded. Time for some Gibson content in the middle of my Gibson content.
@Tensen01 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I want that Special
@rickreynolds7255 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man that's funny - I was going to bid on that bass - I tried to get him to come down on the shipping - he says he doesn't ship ground because he's had complaints that it took too long to get there 😉
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Another first. #14. Wooo hooo! To quote RONDO BONDO
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
I knew you would win
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Way to GO
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
You just won the fabulous Wallmart award for the very first comment wooohooo you are absolutely amazing 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the best award on the net RONDO BONDO
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
Oah yeah wooohooo
@vmann-jd5yw 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please start posting to Rumble as well?
@ELWOOD.. 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Dean Hens Tooth! Mercy, Mercy!!!!
@straight8ight 2 жыл бұрын
That's why we let you take the time to investigate these listings.
@kevinberg84 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Gibson's site has been down for over 24 hours!
@skullstjohn 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video on Ed Roman. Are you familiar with him and his reputation and have you (unknowingly) purchased one of his fakes?
@danbremer7010 2 жыл бұрын
My daily dose of guitars.
@michaelpacinus242 2 жыл бұрын
Trogly! Let me check out that THANG 😩
@imannonymous7707 2 жыл бұрын
So whst are the finssl verdict yes legit or no ?
@themac3421 2 жыл бұрын
nope, "custom made"
@Masterfighterx 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like an Epiphone headstock that got a makeover. Looks better but too cramped together, which is also why i hate Epiphone headstocks.
@bakman2411 2 жыл бұрын
1
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. I’m pleased to present a Silver Medal for your efforts.
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the Silver Bakman24
@rondobondo6600 2 жыл бұрын
Second place wooohooo 🍍
@eaglewarrior8707 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why people wanna own a old guitar that is stained in tobacco tar and some guys stinch.
@hadtodoit4391 2 жыл бұрын
Just giving you shit good show bro
@jaredcoderre3062 2 жыл бұрын
Troggin!
@clarkbabin9799 2 жыл бұрын
You think maybe a Delorean and a reclusive Doctorate physics professor had something to do with that guitar? Oh look apparently the owner was one of those that used doritos chip picks to play. I'm with you on that LP. At $3500 I'd just as soon buy a new or used model that I know can be proven original Authentic. Lol That 78 3 pickup LP is gorgeous even with the little imperfections.
@mikestevenson6745 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like an epiphone with an ebay laminate headstock.
@TheQakman 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the tailpiece is too far back.
@joshuataft5541 2 жыл бұрын
I want a black lp😥
@griffinsalerno 2 жыл бұрын
That’s right folks… January zeroth, 1983
@grantcindrich 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a 50s Gibson you wouldn’t find Inverness green anyways
@Mary.Lou1978 2 жыл бұрын
20th
@ammeltman1674 2 жыл бұрын
yeah so i saw this listing and it bamboozled the crap outta me...
@jameshughes6049 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy that Les Paul. Uh uh.
@donttalktome4696 2 жыл бұрын
That gibson logo looks like my 6 year old did it.
@holstorrsceadus1990 2 жыл бұрын
So late.
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you. Good evening
@holstorrsceadus1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgt.grinch3299 and a good evening to you too sir
@larryburwell8550 2 жыл бұрын
Micky mouse club guitar
@jonmaegdlin4278 2 жыл бұрын
Trapazoids.
@earthstrong-43.72 2 жыл бұрын
Worth 500 clams. That Les Paul, if real, has been butchered. The seller is high on crack.
@brayan_lopes 2 жыл бұрын
But seriously though, where do people buy Chibsons? Is it safe? Are they minimally descent?
@zaccds 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely sites like aliexpress. From what I've heard they range from decent to absolute garbage. If you do buy one and import it make sure the headstock dosen't say Gibson or it might get seized by customs for being a counterfeit.
@jameshughes6049 2 жыл бұрын
Chibsons are garbage. Technically illegal to import them to the U.S. but people do it.
@rodrossi9749 2 жыл бұрын
@@zaccds you will find the most of the good ones are starting out at the Epiphone plant in China. I currently have 3 and I know for a fact that 2 of them were built on the side by employees. Both have fret nibs and all Epiphone parts. They have Epi stamped on the Pro- Bucker pickups and all the hardware. Full size CTS pots, and very nice wiring. Unfortunately the last 2 , I custom ordered were seized by US customs . I invested between 2 and 4 hundred in each and have had many experienced players say how great all 3 play. Since I never intend to sell them I have no problem owning them. Had I purchased the US versions of these it would easily have cost 10,000 dollars. All 3 from China with upgrades are $ 1500. I also have 7 US made Les Paul's each costing $ 3000 or more, so Gibson definitely got there money from me. PS: the seller I delt with is no longer there.
@brayan_lopes 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrossi9749 Where did you buy them?
@rodrossi9749 2 жыл бұрын
@@brayan_lopes ..... all 3 are from AliBaba. The seller is no longer there.
@Steve.Cutler Жыл бұрын
I've seen chibsons that looked better.
@waynecribb4922 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bunch of junk IMO. Still enjoyed the video. Keep 'em coming.
@IDGAF_PLUS 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a hunk of shit regardless of what it really is.
@killemall1983 2 жыл бұрын
that fake les paul has a horrid finish. do not buy something trash like that.
@Guitar5986 2 жыл бұрын
Old does not mean vintage. There are a lot of old guitars that are just that...old. Doesn't mean they are bad or good, but they are not vintage & never will be. Reissues and copies are never going to be vintage. This is why a lot of people don't refer to most Norlin era Gibson's as vintage. I own a '70 Gibson SG. It's not vintage. It's old. It's a great guitar but it's never going to be vintage. I love your videos but you really need to stop throwing around the term vintage for every single guitar that is old.
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
We will see
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
No way it’s legit. Not interested in that wacky bass.
@shovington67 2 жыл бұрын
Relic... too lazy to put the miles on yourself?
@hadtodoit4391 2 жыл бұрын
I was # 445 to like your show what did I win ?
@DDE_ADDICT 2 жыл бұрын
fake
@markpell8979 Жыл бұрын
I bet today's subject guitar is a poor knockoff. The body is not proportioned correctly at all.
@jxw129 2 жыл бұрын
Trash. Better off getting a new LP
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