I Traded the Gold to Silver Ratio - Here is What Happened

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Жыл бұрын

With the Gold to Silver ratio at 91:1, the trade favors silver. Are you thinking of trading gold for silver? If you are, there are a few things to consider. I'll tell you how it's gone for me over the years.
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@danielharris3180 Жыл бұрын

I just bought my first gold coin. 1oz Britannia. Didn’t realise how much smaller gold coins are versus silver. Arguably the silver coins are more impressive visually. But man it’s cool to own some pure gold now.

@bigsky300 Жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re smaller but the ounce of gold is way heavier than the ounce of silver ;-)

@services50 Жыл бұрын

I wish I could have all gold instead of my silver, that's a tough situation. LOL

@Brandon-jw5cv Жыл бұрын

Check out a 1 oz Platinum coin. Crazy small and heavy... Really messes with your mind!

@GetIrked Жыл бұрын

I had the identical experience buying my first gold coin - both the size comparison to silver but also the feeling of owning pure gold. Welcome to the club, my friend! 😀

@swinn848 Жыл бұрын

Those Britannia’s are beautiful and probably the best value coin right now

@SilverForeverX Жыл бұрын

You killed it on this one. Great content

@lpandy21 Жыл бұрын

Dang...I have to watch this video a couple of times to process everything. Thank you for your time and effort.

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

One of your best. Thank you! I've often wondered how to capitalize on this extreme ratio

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@grants169 Жыл бұрын

I've become skeptical of silver. The high premium is the main reason. In previous years with a silver drop like we've had I would buy silver. Instead today I'm still looking to sell it, as I've been selling it gradually over the year. Hell I can still get close to $30 per eagle.. My brain says that won't last when I was able to pick up the 1000 of them I initially bought for about $2 over spot. IMO the premium will come out of silver (just a matter of time) and there's going to be a lot of discouraged stackers because of it. For now I'm sticking to accumulating gold, and even that I'm skeptical of premiums, as in previous years you could buy gold AT SPOT, or a miniscule premium. I think I was buying AGEs for like $10 over, and spot when it was a "special price." It's a life-long game, and I've got time.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I’m skeptical of silver too. I wouldn’t be surprised by a brief run, but I don’t see a bright future for it. Cheers!

@johninphx9360 Жыл бұрын

I just paid 3.49 over spot for 10 oz bars. I used to pay .99 over spot. But prices are so low its still stealing silver at 22 and change per oz.

@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Жыл бұрын

Well, you’re making a mistake. I believe silver is 18.75 an ounce right now. You’re a fool if you don’t buy

@bcharlie Жыл бұрын

I’m new to the game, but I believe in silver for its long term industrial use, just like the palladium family. Tho, I do diversify in gold, mainly because it has some value to people, even tho I don’t really see it. Sure, it has physical uses, but not as many as silver imo

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

I used to get AGEs for $89 over spot, and I thought that was fair. Look how much now!

@kscoins4787 Жыл бұрын

I'm not trading,just holding the gold and buying silver and platinum since I think the last two are on sale...BIG sale. I still think of the 4 gold and palladium will hold value...silver and platinum have more potential to double in 3-5yr Thank you for your time and input Dr. Gold, ALWAYS a pleasure to view your content! Peace from the land of OZ!!!

@shibui99 Жыл бұрын

Quite interesting topic with some logical and specific results. Thank you 2 is 1!!!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@cryptonbarton6717 Жыл бұрын

Hard flex on your PMs today. I’m loving the RCM bar

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I’d grab a few more but the premiums are wild. Sunshine bars would make more sense. Cheers!

@cultureofcurrency Жыл бұрын

LOVE Charles Dickens! Great stuff as always.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@_Hound_ Жыл бұрын

Great points. I can't think of anything to add.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@cotinavs Жыл бұрын

As usual, I appreciate your content✨

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@bruceedginton3139 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you know what works for you. Appreciate the insight ! Silver is my budget capable investment.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I get that. It’s the trading back and forth I don’t think makes much sense. Cheers!

@keenanxipher Жыл бұрын

U da man 2is1

@jeremiah1059 Жыл бұрын

Interesting topic. I've thought about the feasibility of trading the ratio recently and I've come to the conclusion that I'll just continue to stack fractional gold for the foreseeable future. On that note, I just bought my fourth quarter ounce gold eagle last week so I officially have an ounce of gold! That means I'm on track to stack 6 ozs this year. And since Virginia has abolished the sales tax on all bullion purchases effective July 1st, I can save quite a bit on premiums through getting fractional Brits and Phils from SD. Thanks again for the great insight and content and as always, forever endeavor my friend.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic - congrats!

@davidwatson7919 Жыл бұрын

I am in your line of thinking. If I budget fractionally gold and silver instead of 1 Oz gold should be better in long term. I cannot do both...hopefully but time will tell.

@davidwatson7919 Жыл бұрын

However fractional gold is way cheaper from most LCS than any online dealer. Got 1/4 maple 450 at lcs.. SD is 493..513 credit card. For example

@jeremiah1059 Жыл бұрын

@@davidwatson7919 are you in the States or Canada? That makes a difference when it comes to coins that come from whatever country you're in. For example, I live in Virginia and my LCS has quarter ounce gold eagles considerably cheaper than online places like JM or APMEX. If I want a fractional Britannia, Philharmonic or Kangaroo at a decent premium then I have to look online. I also think buying fractional is easier than saving up 2 months for an ounce of gold.

@davidwatson7919 Жыл бұрын

@@jeremiah1059 US. Got another quarter oz Canadian bull. Nice clean coin still 450. I buy the gold that is cheap but BU at LCS. So I have a mixed bag for sure. Got a Oz Britannia and 1983 Krugerand beginning of July for 1850 each. I use the the online prices to compare offers by the LCS. If it's lower then I buy.

@calebdoner Жыл бұрын

I buy gold and silver pieces that I want because I want to have them and am OK with the sticker price. I'm not much of a stacker and definitely not a trader. I just like it and know that I can always get 90+% of my value back if I really need to raise some cash.

@christophermccormick8670 Жыл бұрын

I just buy the ratio in the dips. I hold all I purchase knowing it’s my physical savings. If the price soars on silver I may drop some weight but it would have to a solid real estate acquisition for me to move the Gold. Always seen silver as fractional pocket change to throw in a jar and cash in when it gets to full and heavy at the proper time of coarse. Thanks for shooting straight from the hip on this.

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

Good review. The bigger gain might be to trade the silver for gold when the ratio drops below 40, or even down to 25. The premium, though, is what kills the profitability. Thanks for the video!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@lovebutton7850 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad that I watched the video instead of just reading the title. I thought you lost your mind. I'm glad you stuck to the gold.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Ha! Others were like, "he finally listened!" 😂

@lovebutton7850 Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold🤣

@Phaser1x Жыл бұрын

“doesn’t always have to follow logic in the first place” Says. It. All.

@njstacker6758 Жыл бұрын

I understand the concept and in a perfect world it would work, but we do not live in a perfect world and there are too many variables to consider. Have been stacking for awhile and I have developed the patience over the years to save up and buy gold when ever I can.. Cannot see myself trading it for silver. Use to buy silver also but it took up too much space so I sold most of it and bought gold. Love the color of yellow. Thanks for the video.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I can relate. Cheers!

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, space and storage are.killers for.a mountain of silver. Maybe better to take a kilo of gold out of the vault fee, bury it in the backyard and let the vault hold 200 pounds of silver at a much lower monthly fee!

@laurabell3592 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of trading all my silver to get some gold. Have at least 60 pounds of it.

@caseyflynn9093 Жыл бұрын

@@laurabell3592 that is going to be an expensive move, the ratio suggests to go the other way right now

@laurabell3592 Жыл бұрын

@@caseyflynn9093 You're right. But I have enough to get at least 5 ozs. I'll make it work.

@CampbellsCoins Жыл бұрын

A very pragmatic approach. The ratio would have to hit another extreme for me to consider trading. I do see another 120:1 occurring though simply because of the current ratio. 90:1 used to the be the extreme and in the last three years, it's been the norm. Good stuff!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

120:1 wouldn’t surprise me either. 50:1 would. That s end to be the popular dream. Cheers!

@hashgraphium3222 Жыл бұрын

I think the economic outlook looks grim, so I think industrial metals will continue to fall and increase the g/s ratio over the next 12-24 months (or until the industrial outlook appears stronger)

@goldeneye70 Жыл бұрын

Also we need to remember that this is the ratio for now and we probably need to accept the fact that silver will be parking around 19 maybe even 18 for quite a long time. Only buy as much silver as you can carry

@Jerry-Parker Жыл бұрын

Excellent Video ! 👍 Just subscribed ! 🔔

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@byteme0000 Жыл бұрын

People have short memories. Markets go up; markets go down. Don’t buy PMs to speculate. That’s not why we stack. It is not an investment.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@aromachocolates Жыл бұрын

Why anyone would trade gold for silver is beyond me. I just don't see value in silver, thanks to the low prices and high premiums.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I don't get it either, personally. It's apparently a very popular idea on KZfaq, though. Cheers!

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

2 + 1: Here is synchronicity for you. Mike Maloney traded the gold/silver ratio today! Here's his perspective: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbeKhbiFqKfdl6c.html

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Ha! Interesting.

@Brandon-jw5cv Жыл бұрын

There are places to buy and sell on FB groups where the premiums and bid/ask spread are way way way way tighter than doing online and God forbid doing it at an LCS. The only issue is you have to have some buying history for awhile and do some smaller sells before you're vouched for enough to do big deals.

@mdavid2100 Жыл бұрын

Yah, I've tried to figure a way to trade gold for silver, without talking to a dealer. I figured if it didn't make sense to me that it wouldn't fly with the dealer either. And silver is damn heavy.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Hard to make out like a bandit if the take weighs more than you! 😅

@jamesvelvet3612 Жыл бұрын

PMs are kinda the same/similar asset class. The ratio is the ratio and generally, completely moot. But, trading non-similar asset classes when arbitrage opportunities come up can be very fruitful. Example: Dec 2011 home purchased for 88 troy oz of gold.. Sell the home now, (was a rental property) and buy 204 troy oz. Turn 88 ounces to 200+ ounces doing nothing but collecting rent ;-)

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

That’s the kind of timing they make movies about!

@jdb2722 Жыл бұрын

This is my goal. Turn gold to rental real estate

@atomicwedgie8176 Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold I'm 400oz short of 10,000oz in silver...i think I'm just going to bite the bullet. I believe silver is drastically under valued! I have more than enough gold to trade, but think I should just use worthless paper money for the transaction. Just having trouble pulling the trigger...smh

@straightblast100 Жыл бұрын

What absolute CRAP! Have you ever had a rental? Do nothing but collect rent? Nothing about repairs, maintenance, vacancies, property management? Conceptually spot on about arbitrage between classes...but please...I've had rentals.

@newbiereview6291 Жыл бұрын

Would it be more effective to decouple the sale from the buy? Use two different LCS to complete the trade?

@jimmyhowes8423 Жыл бұрын

A paun shop traded me 90 Silver Eagles for a 1919 ungraded Saint Gaudins about 6 months ago. He took a loss, he said, to increase his inventory. A LCD will not do it but a Paun Shop near you may do it. The Saint Gaudins was AU and the ASE's were BU from a tube.

@latemodelclassics Жыл бұрын

I looked into trading gold for silver a few weeks ago when G:S was 90:1. Due to the price of silver premiums, the best deal I found was effectively 80:1. Now you'd need to consider that you'd likely want to trade back to gold for the game to work. Factoring in loss of silver premiums, it came back at 70:1 to trade gold for silver and then immediately trade that silver back for gold. So the ratio would need to be lower than 70:1 for break even. Also consider that as silver goes up in value, premiums would likely fall, so instead of getting spot for your silver, you might be at spot -$1.00 to sell.

@72cmcinc Жыл бұрын

Yep, the GSR is really not what it sounds like.....and definitely not for me! That was one hell of a deal you had with the Crypto, nicely done! Maybe and just maybe could it work, but too much effort for that! Awesome as always!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@rd9102 Жыл бұрын

For me there is too much manipulation to play the GSR (Gold to Silver Ratio). I personally think it's better to keep things separate and stack both for their own merits and perhaps...PERHAPS maybe trade a small amount one for the other. OMG you have my RCM bar and it's the way i want it in that plastic holder, i knew there was a reason i stay on this channel.

@good2goskee Жыл бұрын

ground silver to gold is stated to be 15 to 17.5 : 1 Ratio in antiquity was 12 to 15: 1 126:1 was the recent highest lowest in 2011, SGR went to 23:1 over many many decades the average SGR range is 40-60:1 91:1 is spot swap now which is out of wack. I traded physical 2 oz bars of gold for 5kg of silver ( about 81:1 on a physical swap). I also buy SPLV . This way I have some physical, however, I also have a large amount of allocated silver stored at the RCM for a low MER, and will convert when the premiums get tighter. It is inevitable some day the ratios will swing low and premiums will be low- its a long game. So, why not be patient? if the ratio goes to 23:1 again, I'd likely get 30:1 from a dealer in a swap. That means my 5kg of silver (costing me 2 oz of gold bars) will = 5 oz (plus) in gold bars i.e. 3 plus oz of free gold. I know an old fellow who played the swaps by being patient over decades. Without adding any further money and being patient, he increased his gold holdings 40x by swapping. He has specific exits to swap gold for silver and visa versa. Why would I wait decades to patiently take advantage? Why would I do this when I could do other things/investments? ...... A~ I do both. The old guy I spoke of has done both! The swaps are a side note for his money where patience and a simple and strict swap plan has made him a winner with these swaps over time. His end game is to get free gold.....he has! Regardless he always keeps a little silver.

@davide2711 Жыл бұрын

I typically stack silver. Probably have 200 oz of silver and 3/4 an oz of gold. Plan on splitting the difference and going more into gold, thanks to your videos

@michaelmccoy2847 Жыл бұрын

Great perspective! That premium spread takes the luster away from these gold to silver ratio deals. I like silver but those premiums make it less profitable. It doesn’t make sense! The only thing is the price point makes it easier to buy ounces of silver vs even a fraction of gold. For awhile I thought the trading notion was interesting until I did the math a few times. Nope! I’ll just directly get what I want; investing, gold or a little silver. And usually I’ll take gold regarding precious metals. Best wishes to all!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if I want one or the other, I’ll get them the old fashioned way.

@LegacyStacker Жыл бұрын

Great video 2 is 1! Congrats on those Bitcoin trades! 😎

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks!

@LegacyStacker Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold What? Is that silver I see in your stack? I think that's the first silver I've seen in your stack since I've been watching your videos. Your advice on gold has been very helpful on my gold stacking journey. 😎

@LegacyStacker Жыл бұрын

Oh, and let me know how you like my channel

@outlaw6429 Жыл бұрын

The only type of trade I've made is to get rid of my stuff with the lizard queen on them, and trade up to Eagles. Had to cover the difference, but well worth it in my view.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I’ve made a few of those too.

@yourshootingbuddy Жыл бұрын

I agree with you that actually trading physical gold for silver just doesn't make sense. To me the high ratio becomes a signal to now buy silver.

@mmorris2962 Жыл бұрын

Great explanation. Doesn't this really call into question the idea of investing in physical metals in general? I stack for prepping reasons and possibly to pass on to my kids, but i really don't do it as an investment.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I can see why people also invest in derivatives as a portfolio hedge. I think most who do probably have a rounded plan there. Cheers!

@ronk6405 Жыл бұрын

That's what most miss "You dont buy gold/silver to increase your wealth , you buy gold/silver because it IS wealth."

@abuwarith1 Жыл бұрын

If by prepping you mean as a hedge against financial uncertainty I totally agree.

@okgroomer1966 Жыл бұрын

When silver is under $20 out the door I'll consider buying again. I don't even know a place to trade the ratio. I'm still just stacking paper for 1500ish gold.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

$20 all-in has been my number too.

@Seven-Seven-77 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never been able to get it to work whenever it’s been in my favour there is no one prepared to change over

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Yep, I can relate!

@ultimore 8 ай бұрын

If you would trade GSR with physical metal, you need to trade the actual physical gold to physical silver ratio including buy premiums and sell discounts. Much better to do that with ETFs.

@MrThe1234guy Жыл бұрын

The proper way to trade the ratio is to sell your metals retail as a flipper and by as close to wholesale as possible. Selling your medals is a skill everyone should have anyway.

@DeptOfNumismatics Жыл бұрын

As one of the premier "hands-n-coins" channel, what regiment do you follow for your hand care needs? Nice cuticles BTW 😂🤣😂🤣 All in good fun Good Sir!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

No special hand care regimen yet. I’m sure that first manicure will be something, though. Make me feel like a brand new woman! 😂

@willweed6168 Жыл бұрын

I have only done it twice. One time I traded a 1/2 oz Libertad ( 2- 1/4) for 42 engelhard prospectors so it definitely worked out for me and then I traded another 1/2 gold Libertad for 40 vintage rounds. On both occasions I was able to make an extra 20% on the silver. As long as it is not buffaloes you should at the very least break even.

@Joshuamorris256 9 ай бұрын

Why not buffaloes

@getx1265 Жыл бұрын

My simple strategy: Buy enough silver to make me happy and my wants satisfied. Then, buy gold the rest of the way.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@StrongStacker1 Жыл бұрын

Just buy Gold and Just buy Silver straight up when the ratio works in your favor. No trading

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

No trading is a good plan.

@Kenlydford Жыл бұрын

Real facts

@catsteal4 Жыл бұрын

I traded silver when the ratio I believe was 80-1 had 60 ounces of silver rounds and paid the rest in cash for a buffalo. My LCS gave me a great deal basically giving me a 1 oz buffalo for the same as a eagle.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Trading that way is almost like layaway. I get it.

@punch_bowl_turd3005 Жыл бұрын

i traded the gold to platinum ratio, tried to catch the 3 for 1 (failed due to massive price drops dealer wouldn't let supply go ) but could only get a 2 for 1 months later.

@bobbyp6738 Жыл бұрын

always enjoy your videos ,I traded 240 ASE for 4 gold buffalos

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@BusyBeeCompany Жыл бұрын

I traded and sold eagles to buy eagles, I also did it the other way from full sovereigns to eagles...but I traded at the ratio of 126 -1 but reality was 115,and traded the other end across 72-1 to 68-1 across trades...it's good if you fight tooth and nail for near to spot on buy n sell.

@GR19611 Жыл бұрын

Silver is a pain. There is the option of locking in low prices with a pooled Allocated product with the view of selling for cash when the prices rise again, minus $1 AUD per oz , or $30 per kg if you are brave .

@Kenlydford Жыл бұрын

Food for thought 🤔

@plumtree1846 Жыл бұрын

I traded gold for silver this weekend at a ratio of 74.3 (all premiums included). I'm still thinking about the wisdom of the decision. Your video covered all of the issues going through my mind....

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I guess we’ll know eventually! 😄

@plumtree1846 Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold I'm new at this and wanted ground truth when swapping at the LCS. Premiums at the LCS are a big variable, yet I hope this will improve if I build a rapport with them, Alternatively, private transactions have their own risks.

@thinkforyourself9311 Жыл бұрын

@@plumtree1846 never swap gold for silver.

@ronk6405 Жыл бұрын

@@thinkforyourself9311 There are times , this is one of them

@thinkforyourself9311 Жыл бұрын

@@ronk6405 Not really. Your best bet is to hang on to your gold.

@UnionWireman292 Жыл бұрын

FINALLY.....someone who understands and talks about the REAL gold to silver ratio (not the spot price ratio). The real world ratio of gold to silver in comparison of like for like, meaning how many silver eagle to get a gold eagle, how many silver maple leafs to get a gold maple leaf or even how many generic silver rounds to a generic gold round. To me, this is the ACTUAL gold to silver ratio. Thanks for showing this 2 is 1.

@ronk6405 Жыл бұрын

the REAL gold/silver ratio is 7:1 , time is coming

@PreciousMetalinvest Жыл бұрын

Selling silver ounces on eBay I’m seeing the ratio as approx 48:1 maybe lower, am I the only one seeing this ? sell on ebay buy physical gold from dealer

@NYC-pd4ku Жыл бұрын

I had a coin-op business for 10 years I saved all of the silver quarters I found and dimes and it bailed me out twice over the last 15 years. WINTER IS COMING SO YOU BETTER STACK

@coreymerrill3257 Жыл бұрын

When I first got into sliver, I had read an article somewhere explaining that with American eagle bullion coins ,there is a fixed trade number of silver to gold. Like x amount of silver eagles always equal a one gold eagle. But I haven't found it again. Does that sound familiar to anyone else? It was like 40 to 1 No matter the market . Being as I cannot find it again after years of trying , idk if It was real information or not.

@markedfortime Жыл бұрын

Swapping out physical is a PITA with shipping insurance, etc. Not to mention, the paper doesn't reflect reality and premiums are still out of sight. For me, it's easier to just buy more Ag today. Not to mention, I will never swap out my core Au position. I suppose it might be easier if I had all of my PM stored with a bullion dealer in an IRA account who could execute the swap, but if you don't hold it, you don't own it.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's way easier to just buy it. Especially if we're talking about silver.

@artboston4787 Жыл бұрын

So what's your opinion on palladium eagles?

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I don't get into the Platinum family, personally. They don't fall far enough into the monetary metals category for me. Cheers!

@rodgerjohnson3375 Жыл бұрын

I have no interest in the gold /silver trade. However, I am an information sponge I soak up everything I believe of value for use at a later time. Its all good. Thank you as usual for this presentation.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@rustyshackleford2719 Жыл бұрын

Why are people paying the premium for silver eagles? It's insane.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Maybe insanity isn't so rare. :)

@rustyshackleford2719 Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold Maybe you're right but I just don't understand the slavish devotion to them. One could spend that money on Britannias, Noah's Arks or even Kookaburras and have a lot more silver. Perhaps I should be grateful that people are so insane as it makes better products available at lower prices.

@neophytestacker9471 Жыл бұрын

Let's see. Fear of missing out, the saying that ASE's are the most liquid, sought after, and popular around the world. Lol 😆

@goldilocksminer8393 Жыл бұрын

I bought ASEs and Maple Leafs a few years back because the Maple Leafs were $1 less per ounce. Now, they're worth $3.5 less per ounce. No advantage in holding he lizard queen. ASEs, everytime.

@s.p.3575 Жыл бұрын

Some big players,like China,USA manipulating all metals,there is no logic or ratio,silver is underpriced,gold is a metal that is easy to keep in a pocket and take with you.And platinum is almost forgotten.Thanks for you clear explanation.full on. Just stuck all,they are real money.

@jayroc3337 Жыл бұрын

The only metal I trade or sell is Palladium when I’m well enough ahead because it fluctuates so much and I can make money on it every 6 months

@markhuber8345 Жыл бұрын

I may have mentioned it before so please for give me if so. I started stacking early 2020 when premiums were still more reasonable. I can remember buying 2019 and 2020 eagles for 23.50 when the gsr hit 63, I wanted to do a trade because gold seemed so out of reach for me. Looking back on it. I realize how happy they must have been to see me coming in with a monster box to trade for gold. Recently, I have been watching the charts for when the ratio hits about 98-100. I did call them just to see if they would be as happy when I come in with a few gold pieces wanting a monster box back. It was an interesting conversation… the numbers have to work and I got lucky at 63. They would not budge off of that number at all. I wouldn’t consider trading back unless it was north of 98.. we almost hit it 2 weeks ago..

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Those ASEs are spendy!

@danherrington6345 Жыл бұрын

I asked a broker what trade ratio I could get eagles to eagles and he said 59. The premium makes it tough. He suggested trading AGEs for 10 oz. bars. I said no thank you.

@brianingram2068 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't trade the Gold-to-Silver Ratio at all, mainly due to silver's high premiums. However, one could dollar-cost average between the two metals. If a set amount is spent to buy metals each month/quarter, then start with a base allocation % for each metal-type. When the GSR changes, simply buy a greater % of that purchase in the cheaper (according to long-term GSR) metal. The only catch here is whether the buyer wants to hold (more) silver or not due to space/weight issues.

@brianingram2068 Жыл бұрын

Back-and-forth trading will eat one alive with the fees/premiums, just like excessive stock trading when there are commissions/fees on the trade.

@Evertubo Жыл бұрын

What's the knife brand and model please ? I like it and want one ^^

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

It’s a Holt Morpheus. 👍

@birneapfelphilipppaultrier9301 Жыл бұрын

Do you recommendation where to buy Goldcoins? I live in germany and all the Gold you can finde here is like extreme flat and just a few grams.

@lovebutton7850 Жыл бұрын

I like to hear the 10x stories. I haven't had one yet. I came close with Qualcomm. I'm really bullish on natural gas right now. SWN is my top pick.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Well, it was a pretty small one, unfortunately. I have a few others, but they almost all took a decade or more. So many 10x stories from 2020 - 2021. I feel like I didn't try hard enough! 😄

@philspd473 Жыл бұрын

When I bought Bitcoin in 2009 @ $1.00 each I thought it would be a "cute" savings account... When it got to 60,000 I traded for gold through a private guy. He is kinda bumming right now but me I'm doing well... 🤑

@normangage6953 Жыл бұрын

The point is to buy silver when the price/ ratio is extreme. 100 to 1 or greater. Then sell when the ratio is in the 50 or 60 to one. Use fiat dollars for each purchase. Makes life easier not that making a ratio trade is easy. Time is always a factor and this type of transaction takes time for markets to get right. Recently we were at almost 125 silver to 1 gold. That was a buy!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

All time peak was 114 : 1 in 2020, right? And silver was unavailable at the time. Seeing a blip on a chart is one thing, acting on it is another. Those extreme cases are almost never actionable. Cheers!

@GetIrked Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold Too true. Your point about using the paper products when you want to trade is spot on (I couldn’t help but make the pun… sorry). Whenever I want to capitalize on a flash crash (or spike) in silver or gold, I always turn to the market products. My physical bullion is for wealth storage. 😀👍

@normangage6953 Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold I agree, thats why timing and resources for sourcing your metals is very important. Not all metals come from the bullion dealers. Love your videos and the thought they invoke. I, like you and many others in this community am always looking for creative way to add to the stack as economically as possible. Gold, silver, and yes even some platinum.

@Phaser1x Жыл бұрын

If the shit REALLY hits the fan, what will a shiny metal be worth? I mean really. For decades? For centuries? You can’t eat yellow metal. You can’t feed or defend your family or property with it. Exchange it now for TANGIBLE ASSETS. imho Keep maybe 5% of all assets in yellow metal.

@freedomdog77 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you. My coin store does 2 separate transactions. Which ever direction. I'm still tempted to trade my last silver eagles for a gold eagle to take advantage of the over spot price id get.

@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Жыл бұрын

Dude, don’t do it! It may even go down more with silver. This is the time to buy remember this is a long-term investment and also remember when the paper money gets worse not worth anything people will take gold or silver and silver is easy to train at 1 ounce of peice!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Tough call. Silver is beat down at IFTTT now.

@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Жыл бұрын

@@2is1gold Which is why I think it’s a good choice to buy

@ronk6405 Жыл бұрын

Easy choice on silver , if you look at a long term chart you got to buy silver at 1/90th only 3 times in history and each time the ratio got slammed back down

@freedomdog77 Жыл бұрын

@@ronk6405 Great observation. Please remember there are two sides on the ratio, it can be gold going down bringing the ratio back also.

@northernmichigan4108 Жыл бұрын

Taking a break from any and all spending outside of the necessities.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@BusyBeeCompany Жыл бұрын

I also deal in high premium silver and gold jewelry, the benefit is you have investable capital in close to liquid compared to weeks or months with other investments..I have taken losses in order to buy other things to make money..I found buying junk silver made money...I found whatever I did made better returns then stacking...there are no dividends on holding metal...if youre saving to make an income then dividend stocks are better, if it's to become rich, well the rich invest, dont just buy to hold.

@sebastianrmaaa3275 Жыл бұрын

I dont think trading the gold to silver ratio in physical metals is a worth while endeavor. I just overall don’t like silver, the main reason is that it is incredibly inefficient in storing value in a compact space. Recently I’ve been watching full stack videos showcasing thousands of ounces of silver. They were definitely interesting to watch, but to me they prove silver is just incredibly inefficient. Not only does silver take up huge amounts of space, it also forces you to pay higher premiums across every purchase. Gold on the other hand has low premiums already starting at the 1 ounce size. Just some food for thoughts. Great video as always, thanks!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ve seen some of those full stack silver videos as well - some look like a fully disassembled vehicle laid out on a table to me.😂

@josephalvarez6735 Жыл бұрын

So I decide to trade couple of my 1 ounce gold bars for more Sylvera considering that Sylvera was more for 1 ounce of gold and I got 68 ounces of silver instead of 80 ounces and on top of that they were willing to pay I believe 85% to 95% towards spot for gold When gold was around 1675.Yeah it’s a little more harder bargain to do if you’re going to try to come out on top. But I know they were selling silver $3.50 above spot price. I actually had to do lotta shopping around where I live so it’s not that easy but who knows it may just come down to what it is you’re wanting to trade and how you wanted to trade it. I have American eagles that I know or at least a lot of money in comparison to generics so I might try something with that. Other than that I’ve taken your advice and it comes to sending money aside to buy ounces of gold with a budget as well as silver comparison to other KZfaqrs so either way I appreciate your advice and what did you guys talk about your my best to enact and other advice I try to dare myself to see How it goes. I always watch your videos the end thank you very much for your wisdom

@Dustin_Love Жыл бұрын

Monumental metals has 10oz bars for little over 10% premium if that helps ur swaps. You d have to sell ur gold than buy silver online to come close to ratio. Personally only trade stocks and cryptos. Metals are for inheriting or emergency whichever comes first :)

@Jerm-the_worm Жыл бұрын

I'm new to the precious metals market is now a good time to buy gold and silver ?

@Fortuna_Magica Жыл бұрын

Ya i wouldn't, I changed to primarily invest in gold when I found out i pay 25 % taxes for my silver in my country, but my gold is tax free so a major difference price wise for me. I do keep a set amount of silver though, in case ild need it at some point, but primarily I've focused on gold while accumulating for my retirement X-D

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

That makes good sense. Cheers!

@services50 Жыл бұрын

I notice you stack fractional gold . . . I have always been told makes no sense to do that since you pay a lot more on the gold if you go that route. All I use a fractional gold is Swiss Francs. I mostly stay strictly with 1oz BU coins

@reidloscidem3562 Жыл бұрын

I want to buy American Eagles, but damn that. Premiums are still too high. It's like they keep moving the goal post. 😂

@jamesmgately Жыл бұрын

I traded roughly 220 ounces of silver for 2 3/4 oz of gold when gold was at it's peak at almost 2100 per ounce. Some were maples some were generic rounds. I was happy with my LCS him and I have a good relationship

@jamesmgately Жыл бұрын

That was what got me into my first gold bullion because until then I stacked silver only

@anthonys239 Жыл бұрын

I like both metals but if the ratio ever hits 50 to 1 I’d sale some silver for gold just to get rid of so much weight!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

50:1 would be a huge spike. You’d have to act fast!

@papi7rx7 Жыл бұрын

Besides swapping. Would you buy Gold over Silver right now?

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I would / am.

@charleswells2182 Жыл бұрын

I don't think you could ever make money from your lcs unless the pos or pog went up quick. So, given that. What about trading with fellow stackers. AGE for ASE's. As private stackers we can ignore premiums. Can't we? What could be a negative trading the actual GSR with someone?

@cyclingphilosopher8798 Жыл бұрын

There is one other thing to consider and that is the continuous uptrend of the average gold-silver-ratio. Gold is a monetary metal and silver is half commodity and half monetary metal. This means that the gold price in the long run tends to increase in line with monetary inflation (the rate of increase of M2 money supply). The silver price about half of the time trends in line with CPI and half of the time trends in line with monetary inflation. As the rate of increase of the CPI is lower than the rate of increase of M2 money supply, the silver price in total has a lower rate of increase than that of gold. This, in turn, means the average gold-silver-ratio increases over time. According to my calculations the average gold-silver-ratio increases at a rate of about 1.5% each year. Doesn't sound like much, but it means that over the course of about 46-47 years the average gold-silver-ratio doubles.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

I see them continuing to diverge as well. Cheers!

@chrisaustralianfinance9204 Жыл бұрын

Silly question, why do you have the case on the silver bar? Does it damage easily?

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Yeah, silver doesn’t like to be touched.

@cynthiastogden7000 Жыл бұрын

Sensible commodity

@esquared5064 Жыл бұрын

The physical ratio between gold and silver is ALWAYS lower than the paper ratio because the premiums are always higher in silver. Anyone sitting on gold thinking they will get the actual paper ratio in a trade is living in fantasy land. I've done dozens of trades and my favorite way of finding the actual ratio for the trade is by using the retail price on JM or Apmex as the basis for all items in the trade. (Or use the buy back price if it is published for all items in the trade). The problem is when someone wants to trade some high premium foo foo item to me since I'm a stacker and could care less about collectibles and only even buy US Mint items if i can get them at a discount.

@michaelknight8459 Жыл бұрын

I traded my silver for gold when the ratio was down around 66 to 1 about a year and a half ago. With the premiums mainly on silver and the dealer needed to make a profit its usually not worth it unless the ratio is really wacked. If it breaks over 100 to 1, I think it may be worth it then. I would hold your gold for now too. You can buy kilo or 100 oz silver bars for around 2.25 over spot where gold you can buy for around 55 over spot. Silver is a 200 dollar premium to golds 55 dollars. You factor in dealers buy back and premiums your looking at a 300 dollar swing to move gold to silver. I would not trade your gold to silver unless its north of 100 to 1. That is just my opinion.

@good2goskee Жыл бұрын

ok...but silver can also go out of wack the other way... 2011 SGR went to 23:1 EVERYONE wanted silver back then and dealers were crawling over each other to get it

@KCTShark Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

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@Glock_4_tay Жыл бұрын

Hi silver squirrel here...where exactly can i find this "deal ben silver", squirrel!

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Ha! Every dealer I know has "the bin".

@kirbyvacuummadman1814 Жыл бұрын

What about trading silver for gold? I keep hearing about people who can't save money for gold "so they should buy fractional gold to add it to their stack" just for the sake of having gold in their stack? To me this is not smart to pay the high premiums of fractional gold. Where there is a will there is a way. What say you?

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Silver typically has a higher premium than gold, so I don't buy one to swap for the other. Any time I've tried it, I've had to pay premiums for both metals. It's never a simple trade. Cheers!

@loboplateadostacker Жыл бұрын

I see the ratio as the ratio between the prices of my favorite gold (Maples) vs my favorite silver (Maples too), Right now that ratio is 67 in my location.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

That’s more reasonable.

@typhon800 Жыл бұрын

Premiums are a fantasy. Spot has little to do with physical these days. Spot Schmot spot is for paper and huge quantities

@gregjohnson5175 Жыл бұрын

I’m way too lazy to trade in either direction. And I don’t have 10K oz of silver and a brinks truck.

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Ha!

@tronziebit Жыл бұрын

Always bet to the faster horse 🐎, especially in crypto. Don't chase, wait and snipe...😎

@Shark-qd1pz Жыл бұрын

Help me understand, I’m a newbie. With Silver $35 an ounce with a base price at $18 , isn’t it more bang for your Buck to buy Gold?

@2is1gold Жыл бұрын

Absolutely is. The people saying to trade the ratio are looking at only two things: the price of gold and the price of silver since the idea is to trade between the two. I’m still far more comfortable with gold. Cheers!