Lmao just saw that 😂 that's new for picking your characters

Yeah just saw that and my reaction to that was simply "Holy sh**!"

I didn’t see it the first time. That was very impressive, gets you right into the game from the get go. Visual story telling done well.

​@@technopunk8429It has been there for a long time now. It's also in PoE1

Yes, very metal. Would've preferred a guillotine though, haha

so they went from exile to exeution, interesting

@@dariusalas6835I guess the in-lore analog of roman empire was destroyed and degraded to the point of a less humane medieval times

Crucifixion must be out of fashion,hence the gallows.should show an impale at least...ffs

I need chara editor 2 enjoy..

thats all i think it is..looks good but annoying

honestly, given the endless delays and the fact that they still don't know what to do with the endgame. I think they have bitten off quite a lot more than they can chew here.

@@MrWilliGaming Where have they said they dont know what to do with the endgame? They have literally not shown the systems, they have poe as a template, teh best endgame in any game so far, what the fuck are you on about lmao

@@mikeparradise9333 when asked about the endgame they habe repeatedly dodged the question. also they have said that whatever they would be doing is going to be "not just maps" whatever that means. given that they showed us the same half finished campaign for the 5 th time already I think this conspicuous absence is rather strange. In addition poe's endgame systems as they are will require some adjustments for poe 2 anyway. for example right now when you die the entire zone respawns. meaning theres either going to be only one portal or people are just going to reset the zone at the mapboss by dying to effectively get 6 times the milage out of their juice. Mounts are another thing to consider. I think it's fair to say that they want to sell some good ol 20$ horses so there's going to be some kind of large open zone where non ranged characters would actually use that thing. they have also yet to show any non basic currency crafting, any endgame map, endgame boss and few uniques. people loved D4 in its early chapters . critics' were raving about how great it was. and yes i know poe2 is likely going to be good. I will remain sceptical until I get my own hands on this game and my first character into endgame. games not not going to release until late next year anyway

@@mikeparradise9333best endgame? 😅 mapping till you get yellow maps then till you get red maps……………….

Only scratched the surface lol

After 3-4k hours you can say you propably understand the basics well :D

basicly, he right :3 :3 :3

I still feel new and just crossed 4000 hours

800 hours in POE is new lol

My initial reaction was strongly disliking it. But after thinking about it for a while: yeah, its actually a decent idea

Alternatively, if a map is sooo hard that it leads to a bad experience for the average, that map needs some rework.

@@raianmr2843 maps aren't hard. If youre having a bad time then you're either under leveled or under geared.

So true

If in the meantime you want to try an ARPG with a similar playstyle to this, i can recommend Victor Vran: It is more tactical than other ARPGs, with you having a dodge roll and WASD movement, and way bigger focus on dodging enemies than powering through them

Agree. Clicking 1 button and running around with nothing else does get meh

Check out a game called No rest for the wicked if you haven't heard of it yet.

Same. Games like Diablo and PoE1 just feel like fancy idle clickers. Brainless gameplay for dopamine gear drops. I just really hope this guy is wrong, that the gameplay will STAY how it is somewhat in the early game. Having some of that power fantasy of blasting lots of mobs should definitely be part of it, through different stages or something (for example this part of the map you fight a bunch of peasants, next part you fight actual soldiers you cant blast through). I really can't understand how people enjoyed making characters in PoE1 that you could just AFK map clear with 1 button. Even PoE 1 I built my characters that played VERY close to how this gameplay is in PoE2 and it was great.

Hmm I don’t like it that much. But I also don’t like LEs map and so on so I guess it’s a me problem 😂

Could have a bit more color.

@@leederlee yeah.. i agree. i also don't like both LE and this map. I like Diablo map more, because it is clean. you open the map. you know where you are, you know where all the waypoint or poi are (instantly), it is easy to see and read all the words.

It’s beautiful and stylized I love it.

Similar to Don’t Starve art

Which one?

same. all in

Probably my biggest criticism of poe in the first place. So yeah Im happy to see them try to amend that

@@RJMacReady1 it's the same thing for diablo 4 as well and it makes the gameplay so boring.

​@@GOMD77 to be fair my D4 Sorc doesnt Press 1 Button all the time but all Buttons all the time 😂

​@@GOMD77 Yup. But then again, D4 has so many other problems too.

The poe one button spam also isn't technically correct either but we get the point they are making.@@enricofriske1696

I'd rather have that cause there was a time when most games almost turned into mobile games like haha

To original comment: I love that

Because almost everyone loves Souls, for good reasons...they play really well :)

This seems like the case and I love that

Hell yeah this sounds sick

I'm excited to try No Rest for the Wicked, seems like a similar vibe

its just early game stuff. no shot you wont be zooming across maps oneshotting everything

No it's not. It's literally a step backwards making it slower. ARPGs are NOT souls likes.

Haha Exactly, well all smart game designers use ideas from other amazing games.

They said Elden Ring is influential to the design

..... thats literally basic game design lol that shit hasn't been new for like a decade

im so tired of kids born yesterday comparing everything to Elden Ring. These are all very basic mechanics found in tons of other games

fromsoft did perfect it over the past decade and brought it to the mainstream so they deserve credit tbf

yeah, this is my question while im watching the video lol

not sure thats a loveable attribute

800h is less than a single league/3 months of playing a bit every day

Something only a person playing video games for a living (content creators/streamers) and people whose only hobby is playing a video game would say. For all the rest it's the opposite. I like me some depth in games, especially in ARPGs but the first PoE is not a game for an average player, as it requires way too much time investment to start enjoying the game as it should, but apparently there's a big focus on streamlining the learning experience and better explanation in PoE 2, so a lot of people will still give it a try, including myself. Tried with PoE multiple times and it's way too much.

This is a much more fair assessment than most would admit. As a 5k guy though, I don't want the game any less complex, I just want all the info IN GAME. That would be the biggest improvement imo. Not every game needs to be for casuals, but they should have the tools to see if its worth getting into it more.

Yep, game is designed for no lifers and stay at home dads.

He's always great!

It looks that way. The best arpg right now is Project Diablo 2 IMO but I am an old head.

@@pokermitten9795 that mod was very good. I like the slower methodical pace at least at the start that poe2 has. Reminds me so much of d2.

nah gameplay is to slow killing 1 boss takes 5 or 10 min

Slow early, fast later as is tradition

@@jeffhess8241 we gonna see that in 2026

Yeah thats a big problem in PoE1. You dont know what the fuck is going on without guides. Most things are not really explained ingame. And then things like crafting. Oh, you want to craft?! Take, hold my beer. Going to PoE University and do 3.000 Semesters of how crafing works, and then you are ready.^^ People want to play and not to study and work to play.^^

People search guides and builds for diablo4 and last epoch even though their builds are pure linear with 0 depth in it. My point is people will use guides anyway wither game is easy or not noone wants to read or have time to test stuff out

​@Saurfang having a choice to look up builds but not feeling like I have to look them up to be able to play at all is the difference.

@@Saurfang yes, people are zombies. unable to think independently because of guides and the fact that everything is taken away from them. but in PoE you probably need guides for the systems to understand them because game say nearly nothing.

@@MaxiSokrates yes true but i was talking more about builds not systems sorry if it wasnt clear

What i wanted from D3. But instead i got D3. I didnt buy D4 cuz it was literally reskinned D3 😂

even worse lemao@@Kpaxlol

Reminds me when Unreal came out. Giant Leap that shook little me 😅

Unreal, I will never forget leaving the ship for the first time, man everything about that game was world changing.

You should check out ‘No Rest for the Wicked’ then, it’s a souls like arpg.

@@roadrash2005that’s the one I’m super hyped for! That and this, poe2 looks sick. These are the two I’m waiting for rn.

Looks like Souls? Bro this is an arpg LOL

Hopefully this stands up

@@SuperJake9000 and? do you know what makes a soul game a soul game? because there are side scroller soul likes too and etc

That's why it has a lot of hardcore player's

@@marktorres6385 Yeah, I saw the appeal in hardcore and had a few attempts at it. However, I just feel so defeated after spending a weekend levelling only to die to a one shot and lose all that progress. This looks like a great middle ground to me. I am barred from progressing until I get good enough but my character isn't wiped out. I'm getting pretty excited to try it out in PoE2.

I love the idea of hardcore but honestly without a logout macro IMHO it can't be called hard core. After watching streamers use logout macro it just lost the appeal. Can't tell you how many I laughed at my buddy setting his chicken script to 23% hp and using 5 portals every map when he was 12 levels over. But that's par for course in poe. Borderline ToS abuse just to play.

I tried a very tiny drop of PoE, like 3 bosses maybe. I died to one, almost had him. I return, he's low health. I said wtf is this? and 1-tapped him. Maybe I'm too PoE noob to understand, but the other replies say that's "hardcore" - huh? That's not hardcore at all. That's wayyy too soft actually, and a major reason why I passed on the game.

@@daviddruen858Brother that's not hardcore, hardcore is a status, dying on hardcore sends you to Softcore - If you die on hardcore in many other games it deletes your character (essentially)

in 2026

@@kennyshi8933 better than 1 year of mediocre updates like the competition.

Now say it whithout crying

Same skill tree

right, because the best thing about dark souls is facing 20 mobs at the same time... but hey, people will understand once they try it. because something works on one game style, doesnt mean it works on everything. for years PoE has trained its players to rush things, not kill, but down right genocide entire maps in seconds, and in some cases, it even punished the player for not being fast enough, like the case of delirium and similar dense mob spawning. adding things that are the antithesis to that... everyone is loving it, im really curious a couple months after release, when they are trudging slowly and having to stop for 10+ seconds for each enemy, and getting whites only, maybe a blue after a 2 minutes duel against an elite... makes you wonder how much love and praise will be then.

But if it isn't "zoomy" the Speed Runners and Blasters will endlessly whine and complain and they will change it to appease them. Just wait and see.

@@KnEpH131 I think their goal is to have both, if you want to really min/max and use w/e is meta you can be zoomy, if you just wanna enjoy the game then you can do that also.

@@JoshDragRace0688the issue is that you can’t have both - one of the group will suffer, cause either it will be too much or not enough loot and subsequently, you will see economy crumble and be only fitted towards the man mixers who blast through maps. Having slower gameplay, you will feel left out and kinda forced to speed run, basically as it is now - everyone rushed through the campaign, not only to get to the maps as fast as possible, but also to get advantage over the market. The later you start, the less value will the items have that you drop. Now you will also have to get not only the currency to buy items, but also gold to even participate in the trade. And since the zoomers and hard grinders are the main customer base and GGG loves to appease them, just wait and see - PoE 1 will be scrapped and PoE 2 will turn into the zoom boom zoom boom kinda game PoE was.

I’m fairly certain only the boss respawns if you die fighting them, the area only respawns if you die to a mob.

@@roadrash2005 Ah, I see, in that case it's not too bad at all.

Get guud! Problem solved

​@@saucemasterx911 wow. Very original.

He said flask refills would probably change anyways, if they are going for a bigger audience they will definitely change that

Try POE again, they fixed rubber banding a long time ago, game got huge graphic overhaul since it launched, and It's now 10 acts and a ton of endgame after, compared to 10 years ago

PoE 1 is absolutely freaking amazing in 2024.

That's something they've directly said they want to address. They've said they added a feature where when you hover a node on the skill tree it'll show you exactly how it'll change your damage or what your skill is doing. They said they don't want you to need to leave the game so often to look things up or feel like you need to follow a guide to know what's going on.

going from tactical to absolutely brainless blasting has to be some sort of progression fantasy automation fantasy? or simply good olf power fantasy i guess

@@ayoCCI would prefer if it stayed engaging and brainless mode would be just one additional way of playing it. For exampl ein lower difficulty activities. I'm really curious how it plays out.

@@michlangelo2849 probably works out to sort of like that. You'll be brainless spreadsheet build blasting while mapping, then going to tactical intuitive fighting in boss fights.

It looks exactly what I was expecting from D3

Diablo 4 is in the dumpster. Let it stay and lets enjoy poe 2.

Why the hell would you repurchase d4🤥? Da fawk

@@robosing225 Isn't there another bandwagon for you to jump on yet? 🤣

Early acts be slow like that though

​@@mmmyummymmm in poe1, most new templars replace glacial strike ASAP. imagine having to use it thru the end of act2, or even longer, cause early acts be slow

not to mention it feels so slow. It looks too hardcore. I hope its not yet the final product

if it looks to hard then go play diablo, not every game is made for you nor should it be

@@rayu7191 It is obviously not the final product. In fact they have pushed the beta back to the end of the year.

@@SilverSeleucid With that logic PoE 2 wouldnt even be a thing. Devs have said they wanted it to deal improve on the onbording of the first game so more people can enjoy it. WASD movement and other QOL features are all targeted at the casual. My guess, PoE2 will be the casual version of the game with PoE will still be the go to for the hardcore guys.

@@SilverSeleucid The pacing is what I find unappealing, not the difficulty. I mean precisely what I said: "I'm not sure". As in, I could go either way. Obviously I'll have to try it myself on release. I like that they're trying something different at least.

​@therotten6152 the lead dev wants to abandon complexity and retain depth

This game is for a hard core audience, so you'll have to deal with it.

@Kpaxlol spending hours on a build planner is not hard-core (especially if you use someone else) nor is requiring another website just to trade. You can design a game to be complex without forcing players to use third-party tools. Also, I will not have to deal with it. Me and anyone else who prefers actually playing games to planning how to play games will go someplace else. POE is not so great that I would regret not playing. I can get my loot collecting, have a build delete the entire screen fix pretty easily these days.

@@lebanc571 A much expected reply to defend yourself. Yes they can make Path of building an in-game tool. But tbh that's probably a mix between them starting poor in the beginning and them not wanting to completely ruin any immersion and make the game mostly an equation that has to be solved and most players will be turned off by that IMO. Then again , if you don't wanna use the third party tools , you don't have to. May you give an example of a 100% required tool that you have to use? The trading site is their own. I believe they may do an integration that's like built-in the game and looks like the trading site in the future, just hard and technical to do most likely and not their original intentions. If you are talking about Path of building, then you are not 100% obliged to use it. You are just a hardcore player and not casual in case you feel the need to use it.

😂

they want the game to be dark souls but from top down.

I have done both but what I like doing is following a build but pushing it further than the guide and theorycrafting for endgame upgrades

U cant die for pots, cuz it respawns the mobs, didnt you watch the vid

@@Kpaxlol Where did I say they didn't?

Imo D4s combat seems better.

I'd recommend never starting.

@@Kanoog Yea i saw gameplay for POE 1. I don't mind the large skill tree but the combat doesn't look very satisfying,just zooming from one screen to another.

I think it's a smart idea, that way people will quit right away and not waste 9000 Days of game play just to always be behind.