power dmg ranger weapon is just a niche that is super full Greatsword (Moblity + Block) Axes (Range + cleave) Sword (Mobility) Longbow (Range) Maces (CC + Sustain) For any weapon to get a place there is hard spear is the same just with mobility + stealth + some range so a semi mix out of GS and LB - which for non group PvE is good, but not for Endgame PvE

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Big issue 1, is sword/axe have traits for those specific weapons, and spear's Beastmastery trait was preemptively nerfed. Big issue 2, after years of supporting multi-strike, CC, boons/control condi, and non-stealth gameplay, dropping a single-strike, no-CC, no boons, no condi, stealth-dependent weapon in our lap wasn't going to fly, not without reworking a ton of traits, adding substantially more source of stealth, and giving Druid pDPS traits or spear conditional cDPS or cDPS traits. GW2 is about having to specialize for purpose, and currently, there's no meaningful way to specialize for spear use.

I wish that the second skill would become ranged while stealthed. As you said; numbers can easily be changed but what threw me off the most is how little you can do at range - basically only AA and the pool noodle. That's it.

If its good for sPvP/WvW, I guess that's fine. When you think about it, there's not a lot of niches left for ranger weapons to cover outside of maybe a pure high powered ranged weapon, which is nice since most Ranger weapons are solid alternatives when they're not BiS

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I don't think ranger spear will be a raid weapon anytime soon, but I can totally see it being useful for new players who want an open world build. Before mounts came out, I would have loved some more stealth while doing map completion.

My favorite part is how they didn't even slightly consider that MAYBE in PvE the Ranger might have some abilities like traps or other things that pulse damage and completely break your stealth. Also, nothing feels better in a rotation than having to wait like a second to make sure you're stealthed so you don't waste it on an AA. Stellar design overall, 10/10, Ele's in shambles as always.

Thanx for the video, i wos looking for this🐣

Enabling any Spec to use any weapon leads to weapons sinking into oblivion as the main deciding factor will be numbers. This is either more or less DPS than Axe, one of them won't be used.

Hope to see the spear beta for every class because for me the necro spear felt weird and I cant really tell why. Maybe it was just weird using a beta Charakter that I never played with

what was annoying in wvw was the forced reveal when you use the empowered skill. I stealth and press 4 to leap away, but you reveal as soon as you press it

I like how spear here is designed for melee play, but still lets you apply ranged pressure. This direction of not letting players feel useless when forced at a range is good.

tried the engi spear briefly i got basically identical numbers when i ran it on condi mech not bad, felt a bit slow but usable

they need to specify in the skilltip that it has a different attack profile based on ranged or melee distance.

i tested it thoroughly myself and i could never get spear to beat any other of the strong weapon combos either, they just need to buff its damage, I practiced for a while and the best i could get was with hammer/spear and was still 1k less than my goto hammer/mace/mace combo

I probably would have changed the mace/mace instead of the sword/axe on your dps test. Axe offhand is usually the weapon you wanna keep as axe 5 is probably your best dps skill.

With the longbow buffs spear might be the worst dps of all ranger weapons

I am amazed that no one is talking about this spear being basically the Ranger greatsword in melee. It is insanely similar. And at ranged it is a lesser weapon. Why is it so similar. Couldn't Anet figure out something a bit different in that regard. And as spear has ranged attacks too, the weapon can not be as effective in damage as greatsword. Otherwise it would make greatsword mostly useless to even use. Spears ranged skills are underwhelming too as you are a lesser version in ranged when compared to melee. Autoattack is less dmg and is just plain damage. Skill 2 you can not use as it is only melee range. 4 is movement and 5 is the stealth / web control. Only the skill 3 feels ok as it is the same as in melee. Now can the weapon feel fun. Sure. But what is the point of the weapon. We have better melee and ranged focused weapons. Yes this combines both worlds and has it uses in pvp but seriously. We could have gotten a bit more with this weapon in terms of play style difference. For example the weapon being ranged with all skills and 2 melee skills only with stealth mode. It could have made this weapon more like what they were trying to describe it to be in the initial blog post. Pressure and main mode in ranged, and finish off the enemy with a surprise attack. The spear could have been a mid range mobility and pressure weapon. Now though it is just meh.

Appreciate the Ranger spear review . Did you try in WvWvW or PvP ? Ranger needs to be able to throw traps & stealth again. Best WvWvW content for me . Spear was fun for me to play in all modes. Pokey numbers need a fixing up . Thanks for this

I really think this should have been a condi/hybrid weapon, we have so many power weapons atm. Ive been liking power quick untamed lately, and i dont think this will be taking the place of greatsword or hammer. Plus we have no two handed condi weapons, besides sb.

for me all those weapons feel a bit stiff in the animation department. Like those spears do not have flow while youre attacking. Character in most situations is very stationary.

idk what you mean you had no option for ranged at OLC.. axe exists and its great choice for untamed

It was kinda sad to play on the beta. I hope they speed up the stealth 2 and bump numbers a bit so it's worth running on PvE, the motions were very graceful and lovely and it would be sad to have it locked as a comp mode weapon.

The ranger spear /felt/ nice for OWPvE as in WBs and meta events as a more versatile option.

I tested just a bit on power dragonhunter. Well don't see any point in using a spear so far. Damage was very weak. They need to do a lot on the spears imho. I would have prefered one handed land spears over all tbh (cause spear and shield always look cool) but ofc we take this too 😂

I feel like anet it's using spear to give the classes the "weapon set" that they are missing. For me ranger spear feels like a kinda zerg weapon. Same with the other spears

Why can't they make the 3 on spear into a push (non-stealth) and pull (stealth). It will synergise with spear 4 (non-stealth) and be a unique, actually useful weapon skill.

give 2 a cd of 1 or 2 seconds or two charges, problem solved =P

It's funny how they "buffed" the numbers on Ranger Longbow for PvE and it's STILL worse than carrying an offhand axe instead. It needs another number buff and it needs more freedom of movement. It's funny that we compare the spear to it though. The spear is still better than longbow for range. Deplorable.

Far too many classes have a spear run animation. Which either runs you out of a hitbox or runs you away if you're healing/booning 😂

I hate the new spear for ranger, not because the concept just because it’s make me fell how much anet disrespect was ranger They just drop melee and range and steltj without thinking what it is supposed to do

What is swiftness on auto attack good for? Isn't swiftness effectively disabled in combat?

In pvp spear is really good and im tired of ranger having the best weapons

22k WITH a weapon swap? Tragic weapon.

Ranger spear feels really fun in open world and PvP but probably wouldn't use it in more intense PvE scenarios. Agreed that spear 3 feels incredibly underwhelming.

the stealth needs to go. We have way too much stealth in game. And such hard hitting out of stealth is mind numbing idiotic.

For PvE its underwhelming.

Gonna keep saying it even though people keep trying to correct me as if i am wrong but i am not.....swiftness boon is useless during combat swiftness boon is useless during combat swiftness boon is useless during combat swiftness boon is useless during combat