oh for sure! I thought about pushing it until I actually knew I could make it burn, which honestly you can make any of them burn if you miss treat them, lol. But I hadn't done the B-Roll footage yet and I thought it would look a bit funny if I showed off a stack with a bunch of scorch marks :p

All for science! lol

Now THAT is some testing! lol. I have done lots of the same, minus the water bits, with the many SB stacks that I have and never quite killed one. I know that isn't everyone's experience, but it for sure is mine.

@@BaconNinjaFPV Same here my friend ,not killed one yet . Be great if you could do a video on 5s packs on 4s motors 2500kv (ish) I really think people are missing a trick on this.👍

This company has impressed me: I picked up this stack, the 30x30 stack, and a few of the fixed wing versions. Not a single complaint, just superb value for money.

when it comes to the most features you can get for a set price point, they really have it down pat! Now...its not all Aikon's....but for the price you really cant shake too many sticks at it. I really hope to see more of this kind of price reduction in components over the next couple of years because I am really missing those pre 2020 price days!

me too! On their larger one I also like how they raised the solder mask so that it keeps the pool from going past the back edge of the pad. Makes it so much easier to keep it off of those tiny little FET surface mounts.

They had me at holes for the included capacitor. Oh SpeedyBee, you shouldn't have...

I always try to give my own honest experience about a thing :) I do find that I get a lot more lucky in crashes than some people do, and not everyone has the same breakage experience with things that I have which makes me kinda sad sometimes :( But all I can do at the end of the day is show you what happened with it for me and hope that you have the same things happen with yours.

It is one of the options I am looking at for it, that is for sure! Have a few more to test before we totally get there though.

Well thank you very much! :)

daaaaaaaaang slinging 10" props with this thing!!! Must be a suuuuuper light big boi!

Thank you!!

As long as I don't do this test again, I think we will be safe. lol

ya i have the stack in 5in source one frame but its not going to stay in that build going to get the grinderino built up and put the stack in it.

It sure does come in handy! I find myself getting at least speedybee app compatible ones now since it is so easy to mess with in the field. I still drag around a bag o' cables just incase though, lol.

I didn't realize their F7 is half the weight of the F4, (well, 4g lighter, but when every g counts)! Just ordered one - glad to hear your positive feedback on it. I've got some of their F405 FC's also, not one issue, either.

@@BaconNinjaFPV especially when you get a new build, always forgetting something or tweaking. and probably really good for you as a content maker, can imaging you shooting a video for some comparisons or whatever and thats so nice to just change things on the go

for sciieeeennnnceeee!!! ...and stupidity :p

I think it is by far better than the standard Crux 3.5 stack! It should be able to handle those spikes and keep on asking for more.

@@BaconNinjaFPV wow it's really amazing! The drone finally flies like it should. No jerky movements,no random seizures on full pull. I tought at the beginning I messed up by buying a 3.5 inch but it was just the aio that made it so bad. Now i can finally trust my drone with doing what my inputs actually are and don't have to be afraid that it'll just change directions with no input and fly into random obstacles without my fault.

ya am using Foxeer Reaper V4 2-6S F7 AIO Toothpick/Whoop Flight Controller w/ 45A 8Bit BLS Bluejay 4in1 ESC in a geprc phantom 2.5in frame runs great love it with walknail in it with 1103 11000kv t-motors on 2cell 650mah i get 7min flights with hit and its amazing one of my favorite quads to freestyle. Also frame comes with 3d print for elrs antenna. So am using radiomaster rp1 in it. I try to stay away from spi built in recivers.

oh man, the NBD Inifinity...dont get me started, lol. sooooooo many of those have burned up and they were super expensive too!!

lolol, im just out here doing stupid things so others don't have to!! Story of my life!

Now I am stuck here with all of this uncooked bacon! Guess I gotta eat it anyway... :p

In hindsight, I’m pretty sure mine was.

it is just soooo easy to get a little solder in the wrong spot or have something that touches when you least expect it. For sure sometimes it is also manufacturing or parts quality, but I would say a lot more die from something about how they were put in than more natural causes.

@@BaconNinjaFPV I think it was a cold solder joint on the cap that shorted mine out after a crash. That won’t happen again.

Yeah my higher rated (45-55A) 20x20 boards have the right mounting holes, but they are so much bigger than this little thing. Kind of nice on the one side, but I always wonder if they are gonna pop the smoke at some point, lol. Looks like at least the one I got for this test could take it!

Straight to the top on that KV! lol...honestly thats what I usually do too :p

@@BaconNinjaFPV I figured.. im gonna be there one day so... plus amazon had an awesome deal on 2x 1300mah 6s 100c for £35... how could I not spend some hard earned cash 😂 absolutely loving it buddy, such a rush 💪💪💪

You bring up a great point! I've never seen an FC so approachable for new builders since the Naza days. The V3, the Mini and the Wing have incredible instructions and diagrams, something I took for granted when using them for my recent builds (the print on the boards being top-notch). Heck, not long ago amperage draw was kind of an unknown, the calibration of current sensors being voodoo magic and no info from the maker). Also, 130 amps daaaang new guy!!! lol Come to think of it, they (intentionally or not) put enough of the boards in reviewers hands, ensuring an ample supply of curriculum on KZfaq University. I can't count how many times I've seen new builders get burned out before spinning their first motor, awesome build for your first, and straight to _the sauce 6s!_ Nice success story right here though :)

@@GhostRyderFPV thank you buddy!! Success story, you think! I just thought I was doing the normal thing lmao 🤣 yeah im yet to experience other FC's, esc combos as my cash flow is very limited when it comes to the hobby. But i have a shopping list to say the least 😄 Yes i did find that the diagrams of the wiring was absolutely awesome, great layout for a beginner fpv pilot and very direct, no confusing abbreviations and such... an awesome experience just building and i enjoyed it so much 👍 one thing i did learn after plugging a battery in (with zero smoke) is that i was suppose to have a fused device to connect between the battery and the quad on the first plugin, to prevent or to tell you there was a short... low and behold everything was fine 👌 but at the bargain price of £60 from unmanned tech fell straight in to my budget for my first build. Me and a good mate of mine both went at it, so we bounced off each other while building them, as our knowledge was minimal... but after a while doing research we got there. I went with the fpv racer next5 frame, obviously the speedybee f405 v3 stack.. a speedybee tx800 vtx, rumcam phoenix 2, Rpm rc 2207 1950kv motors and ethix candy cane p4 props with rush antennas and I bought a second hand pair of eachine ev800 goggles which I found for £30 in the first city over from the small town we live in.. I came in at £218 in the air. Oh i Also used my gopro hero 3 😁 like I say, on a budget. I already had a futaba t8j from flying a small amount of fixed wing but flights was very few and far between, so I used that with an sbus reciver, just to get me by till i could afford the transition to Elrs.. i've just bought the radiomaster boxer which is absolutely amazing, great peice of kit 👍 I'm going to be building another very soon and already cannot wait 😀

@@pingofthething5446 Holy Bargain Batman! That's gotta be the best entry price I've ever seen to get into a 5", nicely done! You mentioned the SmokeStopper - it's been a boon in past builds, most recently helping me diagnose a pair of swapped wires feeing the GPS in a VTOL Ranger build - why would there be two black wires in the harness, come on! lol That's a mean build you have there, I hope the one you're planning is equally successful! You mentioned fixed wings - my current obsession - at some point I got hooked on iNav, and have a small squadron of FPV planes, at first using old quad FC's, but now purpose built. Mixing the two disciplines with infrastructure, hardware, and software is pretty cool and definitely budget friendly!

oooooooo, 3D! If you wind up building it with this, lemme know what you think of it for that use case.

100%

noooooo, i promise :p Honestly though, I had this whole thing planned for the past 2 weeks and was just now able to release the video.

I am actually moving soon and will have a place of my own where I can just walk out and fly any time :) It will help me get back to that sbang'n!! I will also be muuuuch closer to more abandoned sites where I can go try some new and interesting things.

@@BaconNinjaFPVYess!! 🙌🏼

I am thinking about one for the Grinderino!

I still have to try Kiss ultra sometime! So far I have never gotten the chance to do it, but some day I will get the opportunity and make it happen.

@@BaconNinjaFPV they sell em at pyro drone. You will either really really love it, or will think its not different enough to change from betaflight. Thats usually the two scenarios with kiss ive experienced. with the occasional person has no idea what they are doing and gives up before giving it a chance. lol

I have some in a box....wanna find out??? lol

oh man, those avian props are real troopers! I always pick them when I can. They tend to be a tad heavier, but I have never quite had props hold up as well as they do in the sizes they come in.

Is Mamba better than SpeedyB?

@@memelol7167 in my opinion, yes, by far

It sure will! I am going to try it in a few bigger things and see how it goes, but 4" and less is really where it will shine.

@@BaconNinjaFPV Only thing I wouldn’t put it on, is a racing or freestyle build that gets properly pushed. In that application this ESCs will last for 10 days or less. It MIGHT not die completely in this time, but you will 100% feel an imbalance in the air. 100%!!! On, at least, one phase of one channel. FETs will start to wear unevenly, and a significant measurable difference in resistance will start to develop between the 3 phases of at least one of the channels… You will get= roughness, crappy response, and shit flight feel (caused by the uneven loading of the 3 motor coils). When you really start to push builds, shit gets real, pretty fast 😜 but most average cruisers will be fine with anything. They will NEVER wear out an ESC. I have to keep changing MOSFETs like a chump 😜 but I’m smart now and I measure my ESCs when new and when I feel an issue, because I’m NOT the best pilot and I have a hard time differentiating between an ESC phase imbalance or a motor bearing going bad. It just sounds/feels like uneven motor to me! Self degrading story time: I literally changed the bearings on one motor 3 times (3!!!) thinking that I kept getting bad bearings (even though they were from my friends at NSK Japan), or that I wasn’t installing them right somehow, or that the motor bell or base was messed up somehow (even though they were perfect)…. I honestly started to think there was something wrong with me (real downward spiral energy) 😜… It was soon after I started FPV, and I was a little scattered and overwhelmed. I didn’t have my troubleshooting system down to a science yet. Turned out it was the ESC, I changed the FETs on that channel and all was well 🤦‍♂️ BTW I ended up putting the original bearings back on that motor, so I changed bearings 4 times during this one troubleshooting session 😜

Maybe some day we will see the prices come down even further!! It is crazy to think that 3 years ago this stuff was literally half the cost that it is now.

lol, even the adults dont try that one at home!

-Stress- _Released the Magic Smoke_ Let us lower our heads, in a moment of silence, for all those lost ESCs ~¿ô

absolutely true!! For this test since I was using the same KV on 4S and 6S with no motor output limit between the two, I was pulling quite a bit more amperage for the higher RPM on 6S. I was really hoping to also exacerbate the voltage spikes down in the low RPM range when the prop started backup with the higher voltage of 6S. I thought maaaaaybe we would lose some functionality or a BEC on the FC as well, but it took it as best it could. A towel caught up in would have for sure baked it thought! lol

I haven't killed a WS VTX yet, but I sure do hear that lots of people don't have too hard of a time getting it done! lol

@@BaconNinjaFPV yeah I have 2 on the bench that seems to have died. One after a crash, one just randomly stopped working. Weird, because my 1s nano v1 WS vtx just keeps going while that 4" gets the most abuse.

It is more of a glass half empty way to look at my level of professionalism :p

I think it is for sure, at least partly, a marketing tactic to get the lower cost out there. It is one of those things where if it is always on sale, then is it really on sale? lol. Still though, a decent price for a budget stack!

I would love to! Unfortunately my words of persuasion are not so persuasive, and most vendors don't even write me back, lol. Outside of the ones taking part in the season of giving, the majority of them don't give me the time of day.

also the barometer never worked out of the box am in talks with speedybee right now since i bought it stright from them should have just got it from racedayquads 10min away from the house but they didnt have it in stock :(((

oh man, having RDQ 10 mins away from the house would be suuuuper dangerous for me. lol

looooooooots of other things :p

lolol, it really did take it like a champ!!! I only wish I had gotten some fire so I could have cooked bacon over the open flames of that disappointment.

If you want to stick to near the same price point, you might check out Diatone's Mamba lineup! They would be my next bet on a more budget oriented name brand stack :)

I had a bad f405 30x30 fc also But if you have the extra money i really love the t-motor stuff seems they put a really good product out. i have a few stacks and motors from them. One of my best quad is done in t-motor esc and fc with iflight xing motors f7 processor.

what design flaw

@@flat-earther the osd and black box run on the same spi so black box logging will either have a fatal sd card error or it will have broken logs or the osd will be stuck in the logo screen or a combination of the two.. that’s with betaflight 4.4 releases.

yeah that particular shared SPI design isn't too uncommon either among lots of different boards. I really think it gets this one in particular since it uses an SD slot rather than a flash chip so the addressing is a bit different. I really hope 4.5, which seems to be coming soon, helps to address that!

@@BaconNinjaFPV after long talks with the devs I highly doubt that will be the case unfortunately. The response I got from the devs was to either get another board or run a HD system. They essentially said there’s nothing much they can do to resolve the issue due to a “design flaw”. The issue has been closed on GitHub unfortunately.

hmmmm, it sounds like there may be some other things going on with it that could be contributing to that! Not to say it isn't possible that they were just bad boards, but from the hundreds of budget builds I have talked to people about only around 5% get a DOA stack component. Are you over on the discord? I'd love to see some pics of the build if you have them!

@@BaconNinjaFPV wasn’t DOA, worked for a couple weeks, few dozen packs. I haven’t had the opportunity to troubleshoot yet, it just died. I bought 3, I put another one in a moongoat with an 03. I’m not on discord, I’m not just new to FPV, but computers and social media as well lol. I need to find my way over there.

Those motors should be juuuust fine with that stack. In this test I was using 1404, so quite a bit less stator than a 1408, but they were at 3800kv so quite a bit more RPM than what you have there. It should do a great job and should fit pretty well in the F3 :)

@@BaconNinjaFPV awesome, thank you very much!

i would say so am running same stack on 2207.5 6s on 5in :)

@@wizardfpv7856 wow okay great to know! That gives me some confidence I could probably try flying 3d mode with this 3” build…just wish I knew what props to use for 3” 3d flying

yesssssssssssss!

yes, that was a 1404. I figured I was either going to burn up a motor or burn up the ESC, so I didn't want to throw anything too nice on there, lol.

@@BaconNinjaFPV I put a mini 40A jhemcu esc on my 5" 6S racer. It flew amazing. Only once I got stuck in a tree and wanted to turtle mode it down, did one if the ESC'S die. Okay it's a mini 5 gram esc running a 2207.5 motor on 6S that killed it when being blocked spinning up.

I have witnessed that warranty thing for sure. Unfortunately I have also witnessed it from almost all of the major brands too :( If there were one thing I could wish for in FPV it would be much better customer service all around!

i live right by racedayquads and rotor riot and i just go in and talk to them if i have something i get thats bad and they always give me a new one even with speedybee stuff

I have found that I destroy far less things when I just go fly it, and people tend to break way more things than I do. This time I decided to just go straight to abuse of the parts to rough them up a bit, lol.

I think YT was doing you a favor and trying to show less of this fuzzy face in your watch page, lol

@@BaconNinjaFPV lol

I think the 3.5 market is really going to take off over the next year! I was actually partly testing this stack for the Grinderino build series that I am doing later this year. I have this one and a couple of others in my list of possibilities to make it into the "stealth basher" build series :)