I Tried To Make Twisted W's And Turn It Into A Cowboy Knife / Bull Cutter Blade

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Fire Creek Forge

Fire Creek Forge

4 ай бұрын

Forge welding a billet comprised of 52100 steel and 15N20 steel. I want to try and make the pattern known as "firestorm", which is made by stacking "w's" and then twisting the bar. "W's" are formed by forging the bar on bias.
You be the judge of how it turned out.
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@jwstex
@jwstex Ай бұрын
That custom adjustable wrench twister bar is the BOMB.
@jwstex
@jwstex Ай бұрын
Second video. I gotta say, you do some things I have seen other guys learn the hard way. I have also noticed a ton of things you do that seemed overly cautious for the process but, having watched carefully, I see that these differences would result in a superior product. At least that's what I believe.
@user-pk2fg8im4u
@user-pk2fg8im4u 4 ай бұрын
Elijah, it is mesmerizing to watch you create knives, you make it look easy, and I know that very few are gifted to achieve the level of expertise that you have. It is really impressive. I did miss your narration on this build, that is another of your gifts, so don't think that isn't appreciated also. Thanks for putting these out, you have proven your skill over and over! Blessings to you and your family.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 4 ай бұрын
Very good looking knife, lots of pins in the handle gives it a great traditional look that I've always liked too. Which is the exact opposite of how I feel in my early years about working with cattle, castrating, dehorning and branding made for some long, very hard and mostly unpleasant days
@redrover1565
@redrover1565 3 ай бұрын
Switch your filters from 2091 to 2097. I did and got much better particulate and vapor reduction. My lungs and sinuses could tell the difference. Kindest regards from southern Oklahoma.
@dagnard5707
@dagnard5707 4 ай бұрын
bull cutters was my number one seller at shows. nicely done
@gordringaming
@gordringaming 4 ай бұрын
Love watching you work. It's very relaxing. Keep the good videos coming!
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 4 ай бұрын
I know some people prefer to use stick welders but if you use a Tig welder to joint the pieces preforge you can do so without adding any metal to the billet, it’s just the parent metal melting together so you don’t have to grind off any welds or worry about the welds making it into your billet 👍 plus it’s a good way to learn tig welding cause it’s not something that’s gonna really show in the end.
@zachpetty2930
@zachpetty2930 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately with pattern welded steel the weld will still show up because you're mixing the two parent metals together creating distortion in the pattern. I learned the hard way
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
I think it would be useful, just haven't gotten around to getting set up for tig
@clifbradley
@clifbradley 4 ай бұрын
The funny part is that even though Patrick wasn't talking,,I could still hear him explain everything he was doing. Highly familiar with bull cuttersl my grandfather had a nice one that Buck,made back in the day. A BC7. 7 inch Bull Cutter and we used it for its intended purpose of cutting bulls. My aunt raised black Angus in West Virginia and she banded them. I figured that hurt worsel
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 4 ай бұрын
Patrick? His name is Elijah
@fredfry5100
@fredfry5100 3 ай бұрын
So... That's a castration knife?
@derrickguffey4775
@derrickguffey4775 3 ай бұрын
Bill cutter means steer maker right?
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 3 ай бұрын
@@derrickguffey4775 yep, exactly what it sounds like.
@cadenayers9253
@cadenayers9253 3 ай бұрын
As grizzly as it sounds (and believe me it is), it’s a lot swifter and more humane than the alternative method. One deft stroke here, the other one having you tie up the poor animal’s jewels and cut off blood flow until they drop off by themselves. My dad raised goats and they’d spend a week hobbling around in horrible pain and discomfort. From what little I’ve heard, I believe it’s a safety measure, so males don’t get aggressive during mating season and gore the farmers. I’m probably wrong on that last part tho.
@michaelh2797
@michaelh2797 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful knife. I love that died bone handle. Normally, videos without narration or words make me fall asleep. Not this one. All the bulls in Texas are runnin for the woods!
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks!
@MarkTregelt
@MarkTregelt 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are pure meditation, thanks alot. BTW i miss the gagdgsen in the background
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@riddler3856
@riddler3856 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for a nice show! Very well done!🎉🎉🎉😊
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 4 ай бұрын
Very nicely done Elijah, Came out wonderful. Thank you for sharing.
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Randy I appreciate it
@shawnshaffer4230
@shawnshaffer4230 3 ай бұрын
a work of art for sure
@mulepowerforge
@mulepowerforge 4 ай бұрын
That looks pretty cool! Ive been wanting to do one of these for a while and I think thats next up when Im done with my current project.
@randylippert6416
@randylippert6416 4 ай бұрын
Truly a thing of beauty 👍👍
@DavidEricWilliams
@DavidEricWilliams 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful unique knife.
@concernedcitizen2868
@concernedcitizen2868 4 ай бұрын
I really liked this video. and that is a cool knife.
@Juzzy520
@Juzzy520 3 ай бұрын
Luvly work indeed!💥💥💪👍
@ryanhight1076
@ryanhight1076 3 ай бұрын
Excellent
@ryanblystone5153
@ryanblystone5153 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@neilwootton2691
@neilwootton2691 3 ай бұрын
From the point of having the materials all sat on the bench in front of you, to having a finished product. Typically how long does something like this take?
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
Just depends on the knife, and whether i'm doing a batch or not. Anywhere from several actual hours on a simple knife in a batch, to 50+ hours for a fancy project.
@brysonalden5414
@brysonalden5414 4 ай бұрын
Sheesh, when I saw the size of your initial billet I thought you'd changed your mind and were going to make a bull cutter broadsword! Obviously you're in production mode and now have plenty of great patterned steel for many more projects.
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Haha yep, if you're gonna forge a billet, might as well make it worth it..!
@aaronkreger1891
@aaronkreger1891 4 ай бұрын
That doesn't look like tried to me! That looks like you done did it!! Very nice!!
@mike-zh4kf
@mike-zh4kf 4 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm a complete novice and I have a few questions. What's the point of soaking your billet in diesel? And what prevents you from just pressing the billet flatter on the first pass in the press?
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
The diesel protects the steel from the atmosphere so no corrosion forms on the layers before forge welding it together, and then it leaves a carbon deposit when it burns off. Setting the forge weld is done in several passes, to ensure the pieces fully fuse together, before more aggressive forging.
@mike-zh4kf
@mike-zh4kf 3 ай бұрын
@@FireCreekForge That's really helpful info. Thank you kindly.
@ryanbennett2227
@ryanbennett2227 3 ай бұрын
I have seen other smiths place their billet in a bucket of something before heating it. What is in the bucket?
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
I use diesel or even WD-40, kerosene works too.
@gwcstudio
@gwcstudio 3 ай бұрын
Remind me to invest in borax futures!
@hulkthedane7542
@hulkthedane7542 3 ай бұрын
👍👍😆
@T_B
@T_B 4 ай бұрын
Wow!! Just looking at that knife can make ya bleed! I've never seen that type of "relief grind" at the end of the blade. Does that style at the end have a particular name?
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's sort of a razor notch you see on some straight razors. Just for style in this case.
@T_B
@T_B 4 ай бұрын
@@FireCreekForge Come to think of it, I have seen that on straight razors. Thanks for clearing that up. Beautiful pattern bud.
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 3 ай бұрын
Are you still moving back to Iowa? Haven’t heard anything more about that
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
We did have plans to move back to Idaho last year, but that's changed for now.
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 3 ай бұрын
Sorry I got the two states mixed up; I second guessed myself. Hope it all works out the best for the family. Ultimately that’s what matters in the end, as hard as it might be. Family and God is always first.
@ClenioBuilder
@ClenioBuilder 3 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏🤜🤛
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 4 ай бұрын
Was that first grind to knock the welds off?
@CothranMike
@CothranMike 4 ай бұрын
Yes, and no, it was indeed to knock the initial welds off, but, also as seen around 7:47 and 9:39, he is clearing cold shuts as well. The reasons for all that is plain to folks who have worked this type of fabrications but if any other questions come to mind ask away! Someone will answer. Edited for approximate time stamps...
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 4 ай бұрын
@@CothranMikeoh good a know it all that answers for the video creator. I’m a metal fabricator by trade and have done a fair bit of forging. I was just going to suggest that if he’s worried about the welds making it into the billet then maybe try Tig welding them together as to not add any metal, just melting the parent material together then you don’t have to grind all the welds off.
@CothranMike
@CothranMike 4 ай бұрын
@@minnesotatomcat other than your attitude, succinctly said, you intended to clip my wings. The reason wings are clipped with chickens is so they do not fly off in the first 5 minutes after fledgling-a poor practice imho. Make your observation (TIG good, stick bad) when you ask a question next time, otherwise an unsavory motive may be assumed by the reader. Gotcha questions are not nice, your attitude shows your mind, not mine. Please disengage... no or else, just a request I hope you honor. Edited to remove the worst of my spleen splash, have a great day now.
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 4 ай бұрын
@@CothranMike don’t hurt yourself Mike 🤣🤣🤣
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
I had some irregular stock that needed cleaned up before forging on the bias.
@h8uall66
@h8uall66 3 ай бұрын
I was always told a gas forge wasn't hot enough for forge welding. Was that BS or are you using some kind of fancy setup?
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
No, that's just bs, haha
@h8uall66
@h8uall66 3 ай бұрын
@@FireCreekForge Oh, well that was a nice simple answer, thank you!
@jwstex
@jwstex Ай бұрын
Also, a little more stingy with the borax than I have seen.
@christheodore3511
@christheodore3511 3 ай бұрын
Can we see a demo lol😅
@TobaccoTooling
@TobaccoTooling 4 ай бұрын
Something sounds wrong with the press. Sounds like the pump is dying
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 4 ай бұрын
Haha I hope not! There are a lot of rattling parts/ vibration, hopefully that's what you're hearing..
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton 4 ай бұрын
That billet barely fit in your forge. The pattern really came out nice with that angle. You should keep the short-cut beard, you look much younger now and less worried about catching fire.
@user-tb3ep8gc5r
@user-tb3ep8gc5r 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for blocking our eyes
@adamparker9765
@adamparker9765 3 ай бұрын
Acetate , Kerosene and Borax . You certainly werent taking any chances of that not sticking . Seriously you dont need all that , a little borax , maby .
@davidl6566
@davidl6566 3 ай бұрын
Man, with so many starting layers I'd even add some elmers wood glue and super glue to the mix too!
@michaelmorrison4843
@michaelmorrison4843 4 ай бұрын
Nothing about this knife says Cowboy knife! Maybe if it were a clip point! 🤔😯
@derrickguffey4775
@derrickguffey4775 3 ай бұрын
Why does it need a clip point to be a cowboy knife? Arkansas toothpicks were double edged and cowboys used those as well! Any knife the cowboy used could be labeled a cowboy knife.
@emildraxineanu7037
@emildraxineanu7037 3 ай бұрын
Wow .good craftsmanship but you wasted so much material for basically a razor?? Why ? I mean that wouldn't be o use even in the kitchen. Baffled
@FireCreekForge
@FireCreekForge 3 ай бұрын
I have the whole rest of the billet to use for other knives, just not in this video.
@donknotts5625
@donknotts5625 4 ай бұрын
Nice
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