Monkey klick button...

Lol the guy who made salamangreat really made it imune to noobs

And it really does show why he'll never get into Yu-Gi-Oh as well. Bro making moves like that on top of the game already being difficult as it is, explains a lot about his previous videos trying to play

If you want to start off with a combo deck, take Crusadia: easy, linear lines and "spamming" in one deck. You also learn the basics of the game. I would recommend Crusadia as a 2nd deck after a control deck Speaking of, I would always take a control deck with some active engine plays as an introduction to the game, e.g. Altergeist, as Control decks put more emphasis on learning things like resource management or the right mindset for YGO - and less on knowing lines.

​​@@StriderYGOI agree my friend tried Crusadia and got it immediately Salads have alot of small combos that a new player could miss and having to keep track of if you already used the field spell effect for a link summon and wolfs arrow effect can be Abit of a headache

Marincess isn't too bad, Their combo are mostly specific If someone want an easy to learn combo deck, I think Speedroid is a good one

Salamagreat is still pretty simple compared to most decks, and in MD it can climb pretty high in the ladder compared to the other structure decks.

@@user-ms5mt7xs1i i would tell new players not to touch Cyberse with a pole as a new player (as a deck)

All I've learned from Bagooska is that the incredibly tired force IS the immovable object

@@beefnoodlegaming Not if you're using a link deck xD

That shouldn't be the take away from this video. It should be: Yugioh is oing to die because new players don't exist beause they need to read novels.

I mean to be fair, majority of Yu-Gi-Oh requires patience, so...

Have you seen the lines of some combos, it can't make sence until later.

At least he didn't start going to the phDDD course. You don't know how many years it takes to successfully graduate just to pass an opponent by making baronne, sigfried, high king Ceasar, machinex, and Gilgamesh.

And not just seeking clout?

@@KuribohTwinAs someone who has tried both of the following decks: D/D/D and Dragunity, I want to say that dragunity seems more complicated in terms of lines to me.

I'll be honest this is 1,000,000% facts and this is what I've been trying to tell people this entire situation, Coder and Farfa realized it but MBT and Stevie want to be ignorant to these facts.

@@emiliovgc507 I don't think MBT particularly cares whether Rarran is being hard headed or not. The issues the game has that were emphasized by this whole thing is probably all he was interested in, otherwise, he probably would have tried to get in contact with the man himself. I think it's less about Joseph being oblivious to it, and more about it being irrelevant to him. Stevie is just stupid, tho

@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. Real shame Stevie was the YGO ambassador on Rarran's channel though Dude is actively hurting the YGO community for no good reason

Pretty sure in one of Rarran livestream (reacting to MBT/Farfa reaction) he said that he will not play YGO anymore, so I kinda surprised here.

@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. yeah idk wtf Stevie is doing, man never has a good take. I'm pretty sure MBT was ragging on Farfa tho, like there was a stream where Farfa was pointing out how dumb this situation is and the innate bias of Rarran and just started shitty on Farfa and trying invalidate his arguments

I mean that s a good idea. The problem with salads is like Rarran said he doesnt even know the win condition. In Blue eyes even if he only knows the og vanilla almost every card looks strong and makes instantly sense. In salads all the monsters are material for Access or walling up. To even know that access is your real boss you have to know his effect because he looks small with 2300atks. Salads is like farfa said not a good first deck choice.

@@Pkey995 agreed. A grindy link deck is far from a deck I would recommend to beginners. I think if you're trying to introduce someone to Yugioh, a deck like sword soul, synchrony, or maybe speedroids. Synchro monsters are fairly easy to understand.

"Upon the 7th summon, God rested for the turn..."

It's a simple, big, fun dragon deck that doesn't take more than 5 minutes to explain. Clearly it's the better start for new players.

@@Pkey995 the win condition is the long game, but he's looking for a blowout win condition.

N3sh 3 cigarettes deep after 2 minutes yelling my brother in Christ can you fucking read

N3sh is one of the few people who would call rarran out for phoning it in like he did in this video

​@@mattgibson9337And it would make sense

desperate times require desperate measures

"You illiterate monkey read your cards. NO, WHY DO YOU NOT **READ**. I just TOLD you this!"

I would agree, but Rarran is also a highly skilled tcg player. Skill between tcgs is generally transferable in some way. This man could understand Salads if he gave a shit. He just doesn't.

This was the most tilting. I hate that he literally asks why he did something immediately after being explained in a succinct manner why he was made to do it.

THANK YOU, this dude is just either really disrespectful or just ignorant

@@monkeylemur Not sure. I got the feeling he was asking what was the point of sending that card there, as more of "Ok, but why should I want to search this trap card."

When overwhelmed you don't always notice everything people tell you. I actually found Rarran to be a surprisingly fast learner, given the amount of stuff at hand. It also might just be that Rarran didn't understand farfa the first time around, and needed time to process. Besides, I think farfa kinda screwed up some teaching moments as well.

@@lowfianimal8605 Rarran plays enough card games to be able to understand what Farfa said. He is just fully checked out of Yugioh and couldn't even show basic courtesy to even try and learn anything Farfa showed him.

Thing with rotating formats is that they often kill the "wild" formats because cards are designed for "standard" with little care of what they do to wild. So wild will often just be stuck in a horrid state until powercreep provides solutions in maybe a year or 2. Yugioh's biggest advantage over other card games is the lack of mana as that removes a lot of powercreep from the game. Yugioh still hasn't reached the powerceiling but manabased cardgames regularly reach it and thats when rotation comes in. Wild is where we can observe how badly powercreep screws over manabased cardgames.

​@@luminous3558this is just egregiously wrong. It's precisely because YGO has neither rotation nor a mana system that it's the most power creeped TCG of all of them.

Legcy in mtg. No rotation in legecy. And commander. Just ban lists

If you are an established player in any card game at some point you realize how deep you are when you just know every single card in multiple decks which people outside might think is wild. If you are a fan of non-rotating formats figure I should mention magic the gathering has like 5 of those. Might be worth looking into.

Even in hearthstone, there is no deck that has one card that is just "the wincon" except combo.

He was being purposely anal-retentive in my opinion. Personally I became kind of obvious that he had no intention of really learning the game after his initial video

@@ich3730 Yeah but that’s the thing. For a non-yugioh player, this is a combo deck, so it’s reasonable to expect to combo into a specific wincon. That’s how most combo decks work in other card games.

It wasn't that he needs exact 1 card to be a win condition, he wanted to know what the win condition was (which could be explained as easily as "we will end up making a huge monster and attacking twice in 1 turn")

I don't blame him. Let's say he did learn this deck. He'd then have to learn all the equally/more complex lines of every other deck and learn the choke points just for those decks lines to change completely with the next set/future sets/new ban lists/whatever. The lines in other card games aren't as complex, even in magic. And all of this for a card game that gives the worst prize support compared to the others except for like maybe vanguard.

@@Joolenplus That is very true. But my retort would be that once he gets the intricacies of the deck and sees how his opponents play, his mind will get used to the flow of the game and will allow him to take that mindset and try newer decks. It is a complex ass game especially in the current meta so I totally understand why he doesn't want to get swallowed up by the YGO mind rot.

A magic player does not have the lung capacity to play yugioh

@@Awsomeisimo imagine going from playing Mono Red to playing an Adamancipator deck? I would lose my mind

​@@Awsomeisimoidk about that , I think yugioh is like path of exile while magic is like diablo 2 , when you tell a new player about the skill tree of each game of course everyone will say path of exile is complicated(because it is). The only difference is that path of exile players admit their game is unfriendly to new players while in yugioh people cope hard by just saying read the cards and the game is not that hard

"why you gotta do this and by doing so will lead you to say to your opponent you aint gonna get to play this round" SIMPLE LOL

thats why salads is hard lol, the win condition is to keep cycling monsters lmao

I never played Salamangreat. From what Farfa is saying the way this deck is winning is through getting more value/outresourcing the opponent?

I played a lot and playing salad is just trying to stop opponent from doing their stuff with all kinds of hand traps, traps and bagooska and if you see that you can finish game with access code you do that and end game. This deck can do a lot of stuff from grave so it can be hard to stop from coming back in some capacity but if you can otk or negate you can stop salads easily. Can be complicated at the beginnning but sooner or later all combos feel super similar and i grow bored with doing same stuff. Also going second with salad can be a painful experience if enemies have good board but it is for most decks i think especially rouge ones@@shyshek_shyshkovic

yeah, it's a bit obvious he just doesn't want to learn. Farfa had to carry this hard to make it entertaining.

make sense, it's like he already hating the game it's self or the community behind it so make a bit bias imo

I think he probably not comfortable about how fast the game is, he obviously capable of playing, but most of the time he just drift and click everything that glowed...

@@darkira2129 Again let me repeat i would agree with you if he was just a random person. But the problem is he was at one point THE HIGHEST RANKED HEARTHSTONE PLAYER in USA.

@@AcacontrolsI think this says more about Hearthstone than it does about him

I've been trying to get into magic recently, and what has surprised me is even with me not even reading a deck (just goin in with a pre built deck) it' pretty easy to see what the game plan is. And not just for yourself, but about your opponents too.. Not to say that's a good way to go rack up wins... I lose more often than not, but I never actually feel 'lost' in terms of understanding what's happening in the game during said game. Only time it comes up is when a new keyword pops up and wrecks my shit. I admit there are some rulings that do confuse me even after trying to google the card name. But understanding the keywords and seeing it interact in a few matches with other cards serves as a stopgap measure.

​@@YouboremenowThe biggest problem I had when starting Magic was that I absolutely despise the entire concept of lands. I hate opening too many or too few lands and having to go "whoops, guess i'm losing" because of it. Sure you can mulligan, but that just puts you in a worse position so now you can play a little before losing instead of not playing at all before losing.

@@skeletonwar4445 I hear that, Especially when it comes to using instants and what not in your opponents turn. Going from easy access to trap cards and quickplay spells to having to make sure you have mana up is annoying af.

Nothing wrong with reading imo, what the heck Every game requires to learn the basics

@@elvenatheart982 will a newbie know what he should discard, and what should he add on a different hand and different game state by just reading lady debug? i don't think so. You see he add gazelle after normal summoning because all he know is "Lady debug add gazelle" from a youtube combo

@@jps_user20 yeah you dont know, you olay the deck test it.

@elvenatheart982 In context, I think it's more like, "Welcome to English. Now read Macbeth." or "Wanna learn math? Let's start with trigonometry." While card text is rudimentary to YGO, the complexity behind the context of the texts varies from archetype to archetype. In a format where hard once per turns and one turn end boards are very common, Salamangreats revolve themselves around recycling a single monster, using its effect for resources rather than ending with a protected boss monster.

​@@jps_user20but isnt that the point of learning? Getting the basics so you can start making decisions? And if your decision was wrong, boom you just learned

He made progress on Cimo's video, is not like he doesn't want to play YGO, but feels overwhelmed by current format

@@Jyxero That's what I initially thought too, but after watching this vid, I no longer think so. Idk, maybe you're right and I'm just hard to convince.

​@@lolhuman25 he was already done with yugioh by the time he uploaded that controversial video of his. Everything afterward was just content farming and humoring other yugitubers. Guy's made up his mind a long while ago and all we can rrally do is just cope and move on.

That's why everyone should try to be successful and good at what they do. People will go a long way to appeal to you if you are.

@@Jyxero he doesn't want to play is what he keeps saying But you know he will be involved considering the views YGO makes for him

Because you are correct. He didn't want to learn a new game but he wanted the video. You can tell he doesn't want to be here for anymore than his OG video but I guess he wants the collab so he's here. He's already made up his mind that he hates the game, why bother learning the game if you are going to hate it, even if your rationale for hating it is you being bad. You can't teach an old dog new tricks

Imagine someone guides you through every step of the first turn, and when they ask you how you can apply what you've just seen, you answer: "idk, I was clicking buttons pepega"

You’re not wrong on that impression, many will agree that he just wanted to play the game to hate on it. If you want to try a new game you have to start with an open mind; what Rarran did was: “I don’t like the game, therefore I won’t enjoy it, and thus the game is bad” and with farfa teaching him was exactly the same: “I don’t like the game, therefore if someone tries to explain to me how to play it properly it’s not fun, and thus I don’t give a bs about it.” Farfa explained it detailed but baby games brain is like: “OH! A WINDOW POPPED ASKING SOMETHING, YES IS THE ANSWER!” Sure, Yugioh is a complex game, but not to the point where you can’t learn Rarran just didn’t want to do it regardless of who was teaching him.

See more than this, as someone who knew how to play yugioh up to synchros and then came back into it with master duel and having no idea how xyz link or pendulum worked. I came back to play blackwings, and before I even played one single game I read all of my cards on the deck builder. Yes it took a little while and I still made misplays, but at least I fucking knew in some way shape or form why I was doing things. This is why his yugioh take pisses me off, he's not wrong about the new player experience but it doesn't even feel like he's trying to help himself. Man should just go back to hearthstone, it's a good game that I also enjoy and I like his content of it.

Not only, he didn't want to learn the game, he was actively sabotaging Farfa's efforts, trying to be "funny" so he wouldn't come out as obviously toxic. Good thing his new favorite game is appropriate to his mental age.

So true... He didn't come in with the intention to want to learn the game... He may be a good player but if you don't want to play the game and try to actually put some thought into it it's really not going to work...

He's a hearthstone player so.

There's no way he's supposed to intuit at least half the stuff he didn't understand though. It's difficult to remember what doesn't come naturally when you learn the game but it's honestly most of it. But yeah his attitude was definitely also a factor.

@@Caleb-zl4wk I agree but once the combo has been explained to him if he had been receptive he should have learned. Or at least been able to spot his mistakes. He wants nothing to do with it he just wants farfa to play for him. At least that's the vibe I got.

I mean in the intro of the vid he looked pretty bored yeah.

The Point is absolut valid, but some times even if not reading the Cards in adventage, its realy easy to crasp how the Deck works. I copied a Kashtear Deck i looked up online for Masterduel, didnt played the Paper Format the last Years, and only Knew Fenris Search, XYZ Does Funny Field Disabling stuff. It only took me around 2 Min to get how the deck Realy works, what other Win Cons could come up with it, and got up to an 12 Winstreak. But if you just dont Want to try it in the first place, like Rarran did, its an impossible task.

This was painful to read. A beginner won't know what their cards do even if they read it beforehand. This is just the generic gatekeeping bullshit. Reading cards is good if you are already familiar with the game. For a beginner, it doesn't help much. If it does anything, it's just more confusing.

@@whyler1 “For a beginner, it doesn’t help much. If it does anything, it’s just more confusing” What you just said is also completely bullshit. The guy clearly did not read Accesscode AND then he ask about the deck’s win condition. If you see a monster that can have 5300 ATK, you should know that it’s your win condition. Clearly reading the card alone is not enough, but not reading it beforehand and then spend a minute reading it, or click random button and shit aren’t so much better. If anything, it’s the worst way to approach it.

@@khiemvu8510 well, you clearly missed the point of the comment I was replying to. So I guess you should read more as well. It's about reading cards before the match, not during the match.

@@whyler1 I was talking about reading the card BEFORE the match.

Yeah, the first thing a new player needs to do is look for a deck that they think is cool. Even if its just the aesthetics or the theme or whatever. As long as you understand to play *a* deck, *any* deck at all, whichever one, the rest will come naturally.

as a judge best way to return or new players are demon on locals, demos are free, use speed duel pack on general are doesnt have complex combos its like set a card special summon 1 or 2 and thats all, some demos use deck of the anime character plus if u want to buy the pack its easy, one of the best for me is the gx dark ruler with 8 deck for 30 bucks enought for enjoy with friends, its not meta yugi but u can cath the basic easy with demos

I unironically think Rarran would be best off with an Eldlich deck. It's pretty much Click Yes To Win.

The best explanation of YGO “combos” I’ve seen.

"2 cards combo" means you start with 2 cards in hand and end up with 2 cards in hands, 5 monsters on the field and 3 set cards.

Yes, and that's why yugioh has one card combos. A single card can get you access to 6 other cards that all synergize and have effects when they're sent or summoned. We're talking about a single card that can go lead to a 6 step combo.

Except decks that don’t do that.

He should have just said, "One of the trap cards destroys your opponents cards and the other negates their cards. You recycle those traps until you outgrind them."

Yeah he should've said turn one you're aiming for at least two disruptions to your opponent, every turn after you are trying to outresource them since when they don't have interaction you can very easily clear 2 cards + do enough damage for game.

That's not even close what Salad Is trying to do on the First turn. The First turn Is literally SURVIVE so you can out grind your opponent in your next turns or kill him

He doesn't read/comprehend his cards and clicks yes to every pop up

​@@LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68playing like a bot

@@LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68 I mean yeah imagine playing a new cardgame trying out a combo deck and not getting why you even play x y z cards. Salads is rly just a bad choice I mean 100% of your main deck monsters are materials and 90% of your extradeck are also material and protection. You cant understand the purpose of those cards by reading them. We get them quickly because we know synchro or links combos. It is not new to have a deck full of little extenders no beaters no walls all materials for your extradeck. In HS everything is in your deck. So the first deck should be not that extradeck dependend imo. Something like Monarchs Blue-eyes even DM or maybe even dinos. At least in those decks he can see those big beafy monsters he can summon to beat the oponent. In salads the finisher is 2300atk big. He didnt even know what his win condition was because he saw no real big monster. Ofc we know access is big after his effect but as a new player give me pls a deck where I instantly know what to summon to win. In dinos he would imediatly notice UCT.

@@Pkey995 but he says he's a veteran card gamer so he should understand all this that's why he doesn't read his cards and fully take his time to understand what they do that's my biggest complaint he says he needs to entertain his viewers fine then read and look up the combos on your own time I taught my nephew appliancers and gouki both link decks and coder says he taught his ex salads and she had no prior experience and there's tons of v tubers that play Yu-Gi-Oh now so I don't buy that yugioh is so majorly complicated he's just not trying and being a troll in my opinion for views since that's all he cares about Edit: even fuslie and sykuno 2 big streamers got into master duel and sykuno was initially scared to play modern decks and I saw him playing punk recently and Leslie won that tournament with her blue eyes deck

@@LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68 yeah you taught your nephew right? You didnt give him a combo deck and say read the cards you introduced him to the concept of the deck the reason why card a b c are played the goal of the deck right? Thats how it is always done in yugioh and that is my point. Now the deckchoice is important aswell because you dont learn games with complicated strats. You learn all games with simple strats. Even in chess. In hs people always say play mage or hunter not smthing like warlock or priest because the 2 classes are not beginner friendly (at least back then). Btw make the same video with an absolute chad genius like magnus carlsen he wont get wtf is going on with salads when reading the cards. I got the impression aswell that he does it bad faith but still I think the deck choice is a big factor. Salads theme is ass the deck is boring to play and the cards looks like shit. Give new players something like blue eyes dm or dinos. I dont know why you bring those 2 streamers who played like a year? So what?

Yeah, the most important thing for a new player in my opinion is to try and find a deck you like for any reason, even if its just style or theme or whatever, and then try to learn that one deck. Cause once you can play a deck, any deck, no matter which, the rest will slowly come naturally by playing against others.

fuck it just teach him @ignister

Better, make him play Adamancipator or DDD

Same, pleasantly surprised it happened!

Because it isn't rewarding and "teachers" suck at teaching.

​@@rogaldorn4759its because hes farming views and wasnt in it with good faith since his first vid*

Dark Magician is even better, because there is a structure deck for it.

A deck full of beaters is also way more satisfying for beginners :D

I don't think it's a good idea for a beginner to start with decks as bad as Blue Eyes or DM, at least not for beginners that actually want to learn and understand the game. They will just start losing to better decks piloted by people with a simmilar skill level and it will just be a frustrating experience making them think they are bad when the deck is actually the problem. Something like SwoSwo would be optimal imo. Good enough to still be considered a viable deck, but also braindead enough that the skill floor isn't too high. Kashtira once it has the missing cards might also be a good beginner deck, especially if they don't need to know how to optimally lock zones because Mindhacker is hopefully banned by then.

​@@zaifir8119 but then again, you give Rarran a decent at best deck, and he can't even use it with the intention to actually learn and pay attention, because of his refusal to read and set aside his biases, LET ALONE actual good decks with more lines of play and intricacies depending on your opening hands.

Having a deck that loses to itself 80% of the time is a horrible learning experience. You won't understand which losses are your fault and which aren't so you either overly blame yourself or become a league of legends player and deflect blame onto outside factors at all times. Also again Blue eyes just teaches you 2012 powerlevel yugioh.

That’s pretty much been the story of this entire drama.

yeah, he's so focused on his own thoughs about yugioh that he's never going to enjoy nor learn anything. Even if you bring Coder, Joshua, MBT or whatever other content creator that has knowledge of the game he would never learn a thing.

@@LynnLynsyeah, he heard somewhere that yugioh is difficult and just refuses to ever learn the game properly to confirm his idea that the game is bad. I mean, its a difficult game, but if you want to learn and put as much time as he has while ACTUALLY trying, its not that hard.

​@@jvictorfettI still think it would've been better to change decks to crusadia

​@@jvictorfettfrom what i see he WASNT trying, the entire time his face just show i want this to end, and IDK face

I play a going second icejade deck and I've beaten many meta decks before (purely came out) and I've played through maxx c ash and a barrone its about learning what your deck does and playing to it

if the badmouthing is completely factual and correct does it really matter?

"Sad because the game lost another player with potential but for the best" If what all the new and upcoming players are gonna do is to be closed minded when claiming to "try and learn" a new experience, then that experience would be better off without them.

@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz its not though.

This is honestly the only way to learn decks. Just sitting down for an hour and reading cards doesnt help. You learn by making the dumbest of mistakes until you stop making them lol. Took me a few failed matches with ancient gear to learn what missing the timing was a few years ago in duel links.

Yeah but Rarran doesn't want to learn it. He's not incompetent (when he isn't currently raging or tilted) so if he gave a shred of a fuck, he would be able to play yugioh normally by now. He's already written it off after his very first video and is just kinda going along with people because it gets views.

very lil text in ygo is fluff outside of normal monsters. the issue is often that text needs ot be like that to remove ambiguity and potential loopholes as some of thegame's most broke ncards became so thru lack of problem solving card text.

Farfa didnt tell him the wincon though, he didnt say "outvalue your opponent" he said "cycle your guys" he never said WHY you re cycling guys

Agreed. Fairly powerful with very easy basic plays. If you see Mo Ye or Taiya, you're gucci. And with room to grow if you include the Tenyis and Yang Zings.

And its not like he has to, he has every right not to like the game. But the longer this goes on and the more he sabotoges actually learning the game just cause its content makes his original (truthful) points about yu gi oh being a hard game to pick up carry less weight over time. Total newbies have picked up the nuances of yu gi oh faster than him, so its just frustrating watching him click buttons as soon as a pop up comes up as if *any* card game works that way.

Agreed, after a 4 years break I mained Eldlich so I could focus on understanding what the other decks were doing. Still with everything crunched into the first 3 turns the game has become completely abstract to new players who haven't memorized all the mechanics of a turn or chain (and how some cards abuse them for advantage) or even how to parse PSCT.

nah it's pretty clear he never really had any interest, Farfa was more patient than anyone reasonably should've been and Rarran did nothing to try and reciprocate

nah cause he fr just is not listening

​@@dudezrandom7544he's just not reading

Yeah he absolutely was phoning it in, Salad honestly is a great deck for beginners since the skill floor dropped a ton after the access/update jammer combo was added.

@@LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68 so he's your average YGO player.

Coder I think said it best this guy went into it knowing he wasn't gonna like it and wasn't actively trying to learn what his cards did.

Couldn’t have said it better. This video was rough it actually annoyed me listening to him. Shut up and absorb the information given to you instead of asking “How do I end this game I just started” the entire time

@@basica645if rarran was hiding his toxic attitude in any way then this video is the 1 where he took off the mask, i reckoned the game design diploma he keeps mentioning to shove off claims about him not understanding tcg is actually fake

I don’t know anything about him. This wasn’t a great first impression tho. Definitely gonna avoid content with him tho

@@basica645 oh yeah, im referring to another video where iirc he mentioned something about having a game design it was it game developer diploma and used that as evident that his issue with yugioh being too hard wasnt on him but an issue with the game itself overall this is like his 4th time trying yugioh, first attempt was with MD several months ago where he did a lot better, 2nd attempt was a couple weeks ago that started all this controversy with the video titled I played yugioh to prove how ridiculous it is where he did shit like spend 40m on tutorial and solo mode (doesnt even finish tutorial either) only to drop his entire hand for 2 kitchen dragonmaid and proclaim he did a very good first turn against his first live opponent (also uses this very play of his as evident of yugioh being ridiculous) only to proceed to get 1 of his 2 kitchen’s effect negated and atk changed to 0 on the opponents turn but then on BP he activated the negated kitchen… in same video he watches the first listed world’s match with the adamancipator player and uses it as evident of yugioh being a bad game because the opponent couldnt play the game against an adam negate board despite having dropped 3 disruption onto the adam player with the 3rd actually choking him until he insanely drew into block dragon then spends 40m building salad, going over the cards and even watching a 55s short on salad just to fumble all his plays because he couldnt be bother to remember even the tiniest synergy the deck has and he did all this while refusing any sort of help because he wants a genuine new player experience (yet was perfectly fine letting his chat guide him) even in his 3rd attempt with cimo playing edison on duelingbook he doesnt bother to read his cards 80% of the time, forgets even rudimentary mechanics like normal summon and early into the video he asked cimo what “set” was because he read snowman eater but then proceeds to click the button to special summon it in defense and then proceeded to only press the special summmon atk/def button for the entire video 4th and hopefully final attempt was this video guy’s a clown

except that’s his take on it, he doesn’t want or learn the game but still believes he has a valid opinion despite actively sabotaging his time with the game

yes but raran just refuse to learn, i play yugi magic, pokemon and still dont get it on pokemon XD, but i cant blame pokemon for that, raran blame yugi for be well yugi XD, but hi try eddison and was more appeeling to him, maybe he just have short atention rate, for me personal i stop play yugi on 2011 and i was a judge on 2011 and back like a month ago retake the test score 85 on both, and the first weak was hard to learn but latter its was just oohh its easy its complex yes but the combos are like a flowchart but u need to learn when use handtraps for disrupt the deck, still i dont play with unknown deck on locals cause i dont know the breakpoints but people on locals are cool and teach me the breakpoints of their decks well no all are some guys who are toxic XD but mostly are good people

What decks do you think are good starters then?

i think sky strikers a good starting deck honestly im kinda sad they didnt say maybe it was combo wasnt his playstyle or something maybe a more controlled playstyle might have geld better

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@caellanmurphy4751I don’t think sky striker is a good starter honestly, control decks typically need to know what to destroy or negate to counter the opponents like where or what is the opponent’s choke point for example to be able to effectively do their thing and newer players probably won’t be able to grasp some unintuitive plays like sending a spell to grave with hayate to add it back with kagari if I were to pick a good starter it’d be soemthing with simple straight forward plays/combos and wincon is just a generic beat down strat

@@israeldelarosa5461 In my experience XYZs deck are the absolute best, give someone a simple deck that focuses on special summoning level 4s and a rank 4 tool box with a variety of monsters you can make depending on the situation and board state. After a couple games they will figure out on their own on what to make like "oh my opponent set a monster facedown and didnt set any spells or traps at 2000 LP if I make malevolent sin I can banish and hit for game" for example.

honestly i think Live Twins can be a nice starter deck as the combo line is very linear and very hard to mess up truly due to their effects that for the most part mitigate such mistakes while also having room in the deck for handtraps,spells and traps to stop your opponent from getting as out of control and kinda learning how those work as well.

Has MBT interacted with him?

@@MiyaoMeow588 not directly... I wonder why lol

I would assume MBT just doesn't want anything to do with him, and that's a good mentality. If someone actively wastes somebody else's time, he isn't worth effort or nerves.

they are not stupid, they know this but the attention rarran's video got means everyone gets ot profit off making content on "proving him wrong"

@@Teixas666 I mean, he's wrong about plenty

Dragon Link isn't a link deck, various builds of it use pretty much every summoning type and it's a quintessential oppressive combo deck. It's hard even for experienced players. You should've introduced your friend to Red-Eyes ftk at least (assuming he wanted to play casually) or just combo Red-Eyes (Flare Metal turbo/rank 7 toolbox) with some generic tools.

@@kindlingking yeah, it is primarily a link deck though, generally with just a couple synchros in the mix.. Pure Tears (before the recent slap) would still generally be considered a fusion deck even though most run less than half their extra deck as fusions. He did want a deck that would be meta viable though for once he got it down.

@@captianfail1406 well, if he was willing to dig in regardless of difficulty I can only praise his patience. I was speaking more generally, cause people for some reason like to recommend all these complex combo decks to new players when much simpler although often less powerful decks are available - it's not like the person is attending world championship in a week, we don't have to overcomplicate thing and can start slowly. Tears were a fusion deck because their best and most important cards were fusions, everything else was up for change. While initially Dragon Link actually involved around Guardragons by this point the deck is a good stuff pile that run pretty much everything that's good. Rokket build getting Borrelend is the closest the deck has to being a link deck, but again, if a new Fusion Borreled but better came out, the deck would ditch the original one and play this new fusion, like when Bystials came out and became an integral part of the strategy. Honestly, Bystial Dragon Link is probably my platonic ideal of the combo deck.

Stop trying to somehow align mechanic and complexity. Every mechanic has simple decks and decks that jump through a million hoops while halfway ignoring the basic concept of their mechanics. Dragon Link does some very unorthodox stuff in its combo line and it has a ton of variations depending on your draws including having to think on the fly if you draw into extenders (or garnets) mid combo.

you'll be surprised at how brainded some people can be and is still blaming yugioh itself for this

For rarran its more like that he watched 5/20 but doesnt pay attention to the plot, themes or characters and could not tell you the protagonists Name

Especially cause at this point he just seems tuned out from actually learning. Like he clearly tried his best by himself and yu gi oh's nee player experience *is* absolute dogshit, but when yoy have people holding your hand through it and you're still not bothering to stop the impulse of "just click on everything" it's obvious he's just sabotaging his own learning at this point. Like its not that he can't learn the game at all, at this point its obvious he doesn't want to, which is perfectly valid, but going through the motions like this for content isn't making anyone look good lmfao

Of course it would be batshit insane when you admit to not reading your cards and learning what they do or learnining the rules. Which Raran did do in that video. It’s less the game is batshit and more the fact that he did not bother to learn. The game teaches you fine. Could it be better? Yes. Probably the best thing they could do is split the solo modes into complexity levels so it’s clear which decks are easy to learn

Fr man. He seems so against learning the game. I understand not having coaches, makes perfect sense, but he just doesn't CARE to learn the deck or the game and then blames the game itself. Yugioh is not newplayer friendly but he just shits on the game itself instead of trying to learn.

To be fair he's just pretty fucking stupid that's all there is to it lol. Farfa did all he could.

@@lordgrub12345 Kinda reminds of all those people who called FFXIV a weeb game and it's not for me. LOL

@@ArmageddonEvil I don't think those two are comparable at all.

​@@ArmageddonEviltbf, ff14 is the hearthstone of MMO's. Ygo would be Star wars galaxies or smth xD

Bro refuses to read and just clicks yes whenever anything pops up on screen and he's a veteran card game player c'mon

I started playing this game because of one of those Vtubers. I'm glad Rosemi introduced me to this game

I don't even know how he got so popular. The guy is an idiot.

It's probably BECAUSE he's a veteran TCG player since Yugioh is so different from every other card game out there which clashes how he expects card games work. And that's ignoring how insane of a learning curve this game has.

@@armedweiss5531 i'm thinking the same thing here. what if those random VTubers startet to pick up Magic or Hearthstone or whatever instead and after that tried to get into yugioh.

I know, I came to modern ygo when amster duel came out, I didn't want to learn long combos and asked the community about it, they tricked me into playing sky striker (no, i dont have to learn long combos for my deck, but I have to learn the long combos for every other deck to find and interrupt the choke points) , and I was plat after 2 weeks of playing, so if I could do it someone who reached legend in HS could learn as well, but no the win condition part of exhausting your opponent's reosurces, a common strategy in hearthstone went over his head because tilted and salty

Exactly I started Master Duel after years of no yugioh content. Went through the beginner duels picked up the fusion deck did some research and built a blue eyes deck. I took me two weeks to get to Plat 3. My point being If I can do it without ever touching a card game then he can do it having pre knowledge how card games work

He spent 5 hours straight caring to learn the game, it was literally impossible to progress. At this point he's more than earned his dislike of the game.

​@@pakman184He doesn't need to earn the right to dislike it. He can just dislike it for no reason, that's allowed. But let's not pretend he actually tried to learn it. Even in his first video, he clearly went in with the expectation of it being too complicated so why learn it in the first place. His ass was clicking random buttons for hours with not a single comprehensive thought behind any action.

@skeletonwar4445 Clearly you did not watch any of his first video or the stream it was taken from. He actively followed the tutorials, learned the core mechanics, and then found out that they're 90% irrelevant. Nobody was normal summoning, games lasted a couple turns at most, and even the "bad" decks he was facing were filled with combos that he had no clue how they functioned. He event spent half an hour watching tutorials on how to play a deck the Chat recommended, which barely increased his odds more than 50/50 because the game didn't give any information to play reactively.

@@pakman184 Oh I don't blame him for not learning shit from the ingame tutorials, those are atrocious and any yugioh player that isn't being willfully ignorant will agree on how absolutely ass they are. Konami needs to get off their fucking ass and implement comprehensive tutorials and *especially* rework the starter decks. They don't need to be perfect meta contenders or anything, but they should at least be playable out the gate without embarassing yourself, which sadly isn't the case right now. The current starter decks are some of the worst shit you could possibly be playing outside of literally trolling with a non-functional deck, it's insane that this shit went past quality control. What I *do* blame him for is not learning shit after getting word for word, step by step guides on it. The man isn't a baby, he's a competent TCG player when he isn't refusing to learn, that's how I know he's not trying. If he can be the highest ranked HS player in america, he can understand a basic ass resource loop. Yes, he didn't know what his opponents' decks did. That's a reality of every single tcg at the start ever. I don't see how that's even a point anyone sane would ever make. "Nobody was normal summoning" is just *objectively* incorrect. Sure, not every single deck relies on its normal summon as the entire lynchpin of the deck (although a lot still do) but even decks that don't rely on it entirely still _massively_ benefit from their normal summon, so that's always a good point for interaction to start even if you have no idea what they're doing. There are maybe like 3 or 4 viable decks that realistically forgo their normal summon entirely in favor of something else, and one of those wasn't even implemented in Master Duel at the time of his video.

@@pakman184 And clearly Rarran was not bothering to learn. He already set out to prove a point. That coloured his experience and came off as dishonest.