I'm really liking these types of videos! It's one thing to buy a product from a review, but actually testing it out for a month to see how it holds up and then providing a review on it gives a lot more depth, instead of just "here are the specs, if you like em then buy it"

I had similar "lock up" frozen screen, BSOD, crash to desktop issues with my 12900K system as well but solved it due to a long process of elimination. I did not experience the no post issue under the exact conditions though something of the nature happened but more memory related. System: Full Custom Water Cooling with 2 360mm Radiators (Corsair, but using all Lian Li Fans) CPU: 12900K GPU: Asus Strix 3080 Ti Motherboard: Asus Z690-A Strix DDR4 RAM: 4x16GB GSkill Trident Z Neo 3600Mhz 16-19-19-39 DDR4 OS: Windows 11 Pro Right off the bat when everything was put together and booted up normal operation was largely fine, but sometimes there would be occasional BSOD or CTD/lockup on certain games. But then it started getting more frequent. I ran all sorts of diagnostics and hardware monitoring and everything seemed fine, CPU checked out, GPU checked out using Cinebench or MSI Kombuster, 3DMark. Then I got the idea to do a full Memtest64 since it was bundled with the Asus motherboard. I had enabled XMP Profile #1 (there are 2) and boom, after the Pass #1, Pass #2 through #4 had issues. The bad part, it was entirely random. Nothing that indicated a consistent bad range of memory addresses or a particular CPU core. I then returned the memory and got the exact same kit only to get similar issues in Memtest64. I turned off XMP Profile and it works but why pay for faster memory when you can't use it? The same instability issues were still present, random BSODs, CTDs or lockups. After some Googling I found an obscure Reddit post mentioning XMP Profile #2, well what's the difference? XMP Profile #1 sets basic primary timings but leaves the secondary timings to the motherboard to decide. XMP Profile #2 are strict tighter timings that set even the secondary timings as defined by the memory manufacturer... I thought it was worth a shot, I switched it to XMP Profile #2 and a miracle happened, Memtest64 passed, I even reran it multiple times to confirm. System was then stable afterwards even with aggressive overclocking (after I verified stability). No more BSODs, no more Lockups, no random CTDs. The system is stable even with the following aggressive OC settings: CPU: P-Core: 5.5Ghz Single/Dual 5.2Ghz All-Core (Can hit 96C on some cores) E-Core: 4.1Ghz All-Core (Won't go higher, even though only at 71C) GPU: +145Mhz Core Clock +1150Mhz Memory Clock TLDR: Check Memtest64 and check which XMP Profile timings work for your system. Edit: Wanted to note that I also checked board and memory compatibility during troubleshooting and the board and those 4 sticks are compatible according to GSkill. Also corrected board model to Strix not Prime.

Running a 12700K on DDR4 and enjoying it both from a cost saving as I got to re-use my drr4 3600 ram and performance perspective. The power draw as compared to a 12900K is so much better and well under control. Overclocking is fairly straightforward on the per core overclocking and it has been a big step up. Couple of issues at the beginning with Windows 11 but now fairly resilient.

First ever build with a 12900k at the centre on a z690 hero MB, 32gb ddr5 corsair 5600mhz, Windows 11 and RTX3090 FE. I have had no issues at all, no crashes, freezing or odd behaviour. XMP profile is on and as commented on in the video, experience of usage is just wow at how snappy and responsive every load and interaction is. Games like Halo Infinite and Apex are running solidly at 140fps at 4K. Temps on the 12900 have not been a problem with the corsair H150.

Really appreciate this honest, casual advice. I'm in mid-build myself right now and this is really helpful.

Reminds me of the 1990's, early 2000's where problems often occured because of mismatched hardware.

This has actually helped make up my mind. I have an 8th gen build that needs upgrading. I was planning to upgrade to 12th gen, but now I think I'll throw in an 11th gen board and chip (don't need to change anything else), then just save up for when the platform is more mature and I can get all the good gear, instead of cutting corners with DDR4 B series boards like I would have to at the moment.

Glad to see a video showing how to methodically approach unknown errors / random quirks in a system step by step, including the failed steps.

I've been running a 12700k since launch and have never had any issues with stability. I switched from a 9700k and was going to go with a 5900x until I saw 12th gen. I live stream sometimes and regularly game for 8+ hours straight on the weekend and I have never crashed (other than the game itself but I just count that up as just Warzone issues since on my 9700k the game crashed once every so many weeks as well. I honestly can't remember last time the game crashed on the 12700k). I have moved the PC probably 10 times going to friends and have never had any issues with posting or stability. It honestly has been extremely reliable. But in February I built a PC for a friend with a 12600k on a MSI PRO z690 DDR4 and could not run XMP on SP 3000 MHz RAM up until about a month ago with bios updates but other than that they have had 0 issues with the system as well. My specs: 12700k Asus TUF Gaming z690 DDR4 WiFi Had a Gigabyte 2080s in it for about a month with no issues until I was able to get an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 in late December last year through their queue, again been running with no issues. 32gb Corsair Vengeance 3200 DDR4 970 Pro boot drive I build a new PC with each generation of GPU (So every other year but this PC was delayed because of gpu availability). This system has been rock solid so unless AM5 or 13th gen have massive gains I might just get a 4080 and stick with this system for the next few years.

Can’t wait to see what raptor lake has in store for us. Alder lake really was a great step for intel.

i built my first pc since 1993(god i am old). watching your vids inspired me as well gave me some helpful tips and advice. went with the 12900k on a z690 steel legend MB, 32 gb ram ddr4, 3080 gigabyte vision gpu all in the corsair 5000d icue case. it has been a week now and all systems running fine.

Enjoyed the video, bummer about the stability issues. I've been using a 12700K/Asus TUF Gaming Z690/Corsair DDR4/RTX 3060ti/Kingston S3000 nvme for my main work machine for about a month now. Zero problems, but the only over clocking is XMP. Previous daily driver was a Dell 8th Gen i7 laptop with onboard Quadro. This machine is astonishingly faster in daily tasks. Most of my code is for windows console and service apps, so they are not huge, compiles are so much faster. I opted for DDR4, stability was critical for me. I did use win 11 since it knows how to deal with the ecores, no issues with stability and start 11 removes most the crap that bugs me.

If anyone is looking at the large kit from Ifixit just know that the larger bits are not magnetic. It was very disappointing to pay so much for something that I will not really be using. You would think something being sold for building and repairing electronics that this would be a given requirement to have.

Hey Jay, just wanted to say you've been a huge inspiration to me for the last few years now. I've been running a 12900K for the last few months now and it has been good so far. 16GBx2 DDR5 5600MHz. I do have it overclocked 5.2GHz all 8P cores and 4.1GHz all E-Cores. Now granted, I do have 53x2, 52x6. AVX Ratio at 0. Overclocking TVB Enabled with TVB1/TVB2 95c -4, TVB3 - TVB8 95c -3. V/F Point Offset 6: -0.025 V/F7: +0.06. Min/Max Ring Cache: 40. Adaptive Mode Additional Turbo Mode CPU Voltage at +1.35. I get around 35c idle and around mid-high 80s under load when playing games. This is NOT ideal for Rendering but it has been an absolute dream for games.

I used to build my own PCs, often out of junked parts just to see if I could get something to work. Spent many a late night trying to fix some weird BIOS issue or getting a MB to post or trying to straighten some bent pins on a CPU. I finally decided to treat myself and buy a pre-built gaming rig with a Core i7 11700F and an 8 GB 3070. Swapped out the RAM for 64 GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4 and even with Win 11 Pro, it's been smooth sailing. It's not the newest or greatest, but it's fast and stable and looks pretty with all those LEDs in the case changing colours. It's nice to click the mouse and have the machine come out of hibernation exactly where you left off with no issues. Sometimes good enough is good enough. Since a lot of what I do is not platform or OS specific, I could have just given in to temptation and bought a Mac Studio, but I didn't give in to the dark side, and I came away happy with what I bought.

Did my upgrade a bit over a week ago to an i5-12600k, so far it's been perfectly fine with 4 sticks of DR4-3200. Probably more stable than my i7-6700k system was. Parts list: Asus Z690-P D4 Corsair Vengeance Pro SL 4x8GB DDR4-3200 2TB Samsung 980 Pro (Game installs) 2x 1TB WD SN 750 Corsair H115i Elite 6+ year old EVGA 750 gold PSU.

Had my 12900k with ddr4 originally with zero issues. Now changed to a new MB and ddr5 6200mhz 2x16gb and zero issues. Both times W11 was fresh installed. I did make sure my ddr5 was on the list on the Asus site as validated to work.

This sounds so similar to my experience with an ASRock board, ddr3 and a 4790k. I spent so much time and effort dealing with intermittent issues that were constantly solved by doing basically nothing that I just parted it out and started again. Just wasn't worth the time and effort anymore.

I appreciate this video and your feedback. I picked up the 12600k and I’m running DD4 on an Asus board. I don’t do any OC on it because it’s just crazy fast compared to my old rig. I love my setup. I’m sorry you’ve been having the issues.

Thanks for a review of the new tech. I am skipping 12th Gen, as I got into Ryzen last year (5900x and 5600x for my 2 PCs). With all the new standards that dropped at nearly the same time - socket, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 - I didn't feel like being the troubleshooting department for making them all work together. I may jump onto the new Ryzen CPUs when they drop, but at least DDR5 will be a bit more mature and mobos should at least have that figured out by then. Also, interested in new PSUs with the new PCIe power plugs... hope to see those reviewed soon as well.

I have two 12th gen systems, running overclocked for about 3 months now, one with an asus board and one with a gigabyte board, both are on ddr4 (4000mhz cl18 both), didn’t have any issues with them and the performance is really impressive

I have been using my 12900K for two months now and I have 0 issues with it. Everything works great. I'm using ASRock Z690 Taichi, my favorite all time motherboard.

In our company we've upgraded to self built 12900k systems about a month after launch. In the beginning had some issues with the bios settings but after those where solved they have been rock solid. We're using these for software development and some gaming. All systems are ddr4 and water cooled with the same over clocking settings.

Always appreciate these sorts of videos where someone gives a review after having owned a system for a while. Sorry to hear of the difficulties. I am running a Ryzen 7 3700X on a B450 motherboard with 16GB 3200MHz memory and a GTX 1070 Ti for my gaming rig. Will likely sit on it until the fall of 2024 and look at a whole new rig.

The system not turning on after a power loss, CMOS clear doing nothing, etc... That sure sounds like memory training issues. I had these issues early both on X79 and X99 with certain kits of RAM. Despite them being name-brand and validated, they always did this. It wasn't until RAM went cheaper (way back when) that I bought a 32GB kit for both my X79 and X99 system and the weird issues went away. To this day, both are solid runners running XMP and overtclocked. Back then, I was all about stability, no overclocking no XMP and the random crashes and lockups would infuriate me. Heck my X79 system would drop a memory channel from time to time. Hopefully the teething issues get sorted out for you!

My first build ever with 12th gen, system is solid as, using a MSI Carbon 690 board, DDR5 (xmp off) with a 3080ti. Mild OC on both. I run VR (reverb g2) sim racing and have had zero problems.

Hey J 12900KF Gigabyte Aorus Master Z690. Ran fine for 2 days but had lots of memory training issues on GSKILL @6400. 2 days and it damaged 1x 16Gb stick from the pair. Swapped GKSILL for Corsair @6000MHz and it's been smooth sailing for the last 3 months. I am struggling with overclocking and heat issues (aorus waterforce x360), other than that its really been great. New subscriber, thank you for the content. Built this 12gen, my first PC after watching almost all your videos.

Jay, I had bad RAM recently and all of the issues you describe seem to match my own. I am on 10900kf with ddr4, but still absolutely same issues. Consider switching the sticks.

Plot twist: His head shown in the first few seconds of the video is the actual size, it is shrunk for the rest of the video to look normal.

I'm running my 12700k since end of january, oc'ed with Asus ai suite, never had a single bluescreen or frozen system. Absolutely no problems so far. Really happy with it. Forget to mention: DDR4 3600 cl16 on Asus strix z690-a, gpu is still a 2080s. Since everything is custom watercooled, it's the best system I've ever had. Came from a 9900k..

Hey Jayz, hey everyone! I was really happy to see this video! My last two months were filled with trouble shooting regarding my new ITX build 😞 Here are my components: Intel i5 12600K, Phanteks Glacier One 240 MPH, MSI MEG Z690i Unify, Corsair Vengeance DDR5 4800Mhz, Asus TUF Gaming OC RTX 3070ti, Corsair SF750 PSU, Samsung 970evo plus 2TB, all in a Lian-Li A4-H20 ITX case. I startet with a fresh Win10 64bit installation, deactivated driver installation coming from Windows and installed all hardware and chipset drivers coming from the websites from Intel/MSI/Asus. Because of all the new components, I also focused on stability - so no OC at all. The system is/was 100% stable in "office mode" - so without any gaming. But while gaming, the system was absolutely frustrating. In Rocket League, the game always minimized to tray or black-screen to desktop or crashed (sometimes hard-reset necessary, sometimes back to desktop via task manager). Civ VI always crashed to desktop after a few minutes. I tested the stability with MemTest (several hours with no issues), Ungine Heaven 4.0, FurMark and with my two main games (Rocket League and Civ VI) and always watched frequencies and temperatures with monitoring software. After speaking with MSI support, I did a BIOS update to the latest beta-version (didn't helped). I then did all the "fixes" like DP-cable change, using just one RAM, clean GPU driver installation with DDU, adjusting BIOS-setting (deactivating E-cores, enabling/disabling XMP, setting fix PCIe Version, etc.), deactivating game mode, deactivating xbox game bar, setting energy mamangement to max power and all the other well known tweaks (like undervolting GPU). Everything didn't helped. I then updated to Win11 (via Updater, knowing that this would be the worst kind of update). This system update didn't helped either. I then re-built the whole system from the base (unplugging all components and cables and re-building the wohle computer coming from an empty case) and cleaned the whole SSD and fresh-installed Win11 via boot-stick. This time I chose to "let windows do its thing" and installed all updates/drivers coming from windows. I then installed nvidia drivers and nothing else, just to see the system behavior without doing "too much". After this, RL and Civ VI was playable without any crashes 🙂 Now, my system is kind of stable. I'm down from "one issue every 30 minutes while gaming" to "one issue every one, two or three days while gaming". Interestingly, beside "normal game crashes to desktop" I now have also blue screen and "instant re-boot" as error-indications. I also noticed that I can have a game-crash and after re-booting the system, the game is stable for hours. Now I'm updating all the drivers like sound, BT, network, wifi etc. "step by step" and test the system at least for one week after each update. I hope my story may help someone - at the end I can only recommend to check all the cables and hardware connections and to do a clean Win installation with a bootable medium. Best regards and thank you for your channel! 🙂

Love these videos. Thanks dudes.

I'm waiting for the new platforms at the end of this year. I'm due for a change being on 7th gen Intel but I'm comfortable to wait with what is right around the corner. I won't be building as soon as they drop likely due to scarcity and demand so will have to wait a bit.

Your description of issues sounds a lot like my experience when I had a ram stick start to die. It would even pass memtest sometimes, but would also lockup with frozen image on screen occasionally. Eventually I found errors in a memtest and got the stick RMAd never had the same issue again.

You've also switched to editing the audio in your videos, as well, which I thank your very big voice so much for.

Hey Jay! thanks for the awesome PC build content. 12th GEN and DDR5 running like a champ here- it blows the old 3770K 3rd GEN so far out the water it's not really even comparable at any level- except for maybe heat. But - i took your advice and ran the 420mm Corsair LCD AIO and it works amazing. I ran 6 Corsair ML140 fans in push/pull in the front of the Phanteks P600S case and it's been keeping idle temps with 12900K to 27c all night. :) 4 sticks of DDR5 all good running at 4000Mhz. in the SPD in AIDA64 for XMP v3.0 it even says they recommend to use 1 stick per channel if you want to use XMP so i never tried. I heard some people got 4 sticks with XMP working fine. Only issue i've come across with this setup is running 2 instances of Ableton Live i do get some pops & clicks over the Thunderbolt 4 connection. Single instance no issues.

I had the problems you described when I underclocked the cache voltage to much. I'm now running 5.0Ghz cache with just 0.010v offset undervolt 100% stable. Running the Asus TUF Gaming D4 z690-plus wifi which is a DDR4 board though.

I went for 12700K on a DDR4 platform and I had loads of memory training issues to start. For a long time I couldn't lock XMP profiles (on a 3200 CL14 kit). Strangely, I could manually set timings to get it to boot but it wasn't particularly stable. I believe that issue was sorted out by a later bios revision. I had lots of weird, stuttery issues as well during normal use but I think that may have been due to using Win 11 on a pair of Gen4 nvme drives in RAID0. I only used it for a couple of weeks in that configuration before I switched back to Win 10 on a single drive which was a more pleasant experience. I also couldn't really overclock the system without using more exotic cooling; I normally use a NH-D15 that was just not up to the task. It's been fun to play with the new platform but it's definitely less stable, less efficient and requires much greater cooling than the 5900X I switched from (and have since switched back to). The Linux experience is still pretty shaky on 12th gen as well, depending on your base distro.

I went with a 12700k, DDR5 5600, and a 3080 using windows 11 with a Asus Z690 mobo and I've been very impressed so far. Zero weird issues so far using it primarily for gaming so far but have done lots of stress testing overclocks and custom watercooling. Hopefully it'll work out for you.

Thanks J, I have been thinking to adopt the tested 3960x over 12900k. Since AM4 won't have future updates and I don't typically update frequently. Hoping strx4 will last longer and will provide future proof core counts. Currently running i7 4930k. And the drama with Z690 is too high.

Great video Jayz. I have a 12 Gen Intel system (i712700K) and as most users who like updated hardware and software, I put up with some of the headaches that arise. I’m in the process of getting myself up to speed in the video editing arena and am currently working with Davinici Resolve Studio. While I like games, I don’t have much time for them considering my full time job in management, the occasional round of golf, and my faith based responsibilities (oh, did I forget to mention my Mrs. :-) . Back to the point at hand…I wanted a system (of reasonable cost) to get me through the new hobby of mine (videos, edit, etc). My other system (which I’ve repurposed most of the hardware and incorporated into the new) was /is based on the Intel 9900KF, 32G DDR4 ram, multiple 1TB NVME /PCIE drives and NVIDIA 2070Super. The issues initial installation of Windows 11 aggravated me so much that I almost went back to a clean install of windows 10;but, if you have great hardware, its a crime not to use the proper software that takes advantage and is designed for your investment. Thanx for the great posts and videos (wide range of tech topics…love it).

Thanks for this video. And hopefully it will show younger audience that experienced only Intel for a decade (because Bulldozer) and didn't move to Ryzen, because it had "stability issues" - that this is universal. No matter what manufacturer your CPU is - when you move to new micro-architecture your system will Always have some problems. This might impact Intel slightly less - since they have more money to co-operate with Microsoft and other huge corporations on how their CPU's work with their software, but it will happen nonetheless. Usually the quality of company can be graded based on how quickly they respond to issues that pop up when large amount of people move to new micro-architectures. Intel response to 12th Gen when dealing with this problem was not bad, but could be better. I don't blame them, given that everything there is new (DDR5, PCIe 5.0 - though you mention 4.0 - I have to check, but if you have 4.0, Ryzen 5000 series and 5xx series mobos already had this and for NVMe drives it was a big change, so IDK if the change you were describing was due to faster processor, better SSD or you simply meant PCIe 5.0 and have drive that can use it?), but amount of money they have should have helped them dealing with it. Though it's also partially MS "fault" - after all Windows 11 is a new OS. So some of the problems might come from this as well. Honestly looking forward to see how AM5 and Zen4 will handle their issues - and especially looking forward to your video(s) about it. AMD for once has enough market share that they should be able to have enough money to validate and debug some stuff prior to launch, but a) they still don't have the Intel's budget for that nor co-operation with Software developers on the same level and b) Regardless - it will be new architecture, so it will have issues. I hope that this time at least they will have co-operation from mobo people that won't release "mediocre" mobos like 3xx series of AM4. And that their response time to their specific problems will be as quick as it is for Intel. We need competition, we literally cannot afford to not have one. So I wish people in Intel, NVIDIA and AMD that they continue to develop great things and that their profits will be enough to ensure that R&D and debugging is as swift as possible, but that they won't be so high, because of them increasing prices. I understand inflation and transport costs increase - I can handle increase in price of that range. But above that - No, it's greed. And yes - I'm an AMD fanboy for disclosure. That doesn't mean I won't buy Intel or NVIDIA. All it means is that if I have 2 equal (or almost equal, since literal equality is improbable) products - one from AMD and one from other vendor - I will choose AMD. But if performance or price or power use is worse on AMD product, I will buy Intel or NVIDIA. I'm my wallet fanboy 😉

I finally picked up my last piece of hardware for my new 12th gen ddr5 build (first computer build ever so I'm crossing my fingers I don't mess anything up). Big improvement from my current 2nd gen ddr3 PC. From reading the comments, it seems that the instability comes mainly from the DDR5 memory. I hope I don't have such issues, I'm terrified of having a boot problem and needing to troubleshoot it. Anyway, I've been watching a bunch of your videos lately, and I appreciate how clear and easy to understand you make everything. It gave me confidence to try my hand at pc building. I'm quite anxious about it to be honest. I'll be posting an update on how it goes!

First of, great video. 👍😊 My troubleshooting all points at the Z690 chipset got some kind of issue, as I have set up 2 systems, and I have never had that many issues with any builds before combining 12th gen Intel and Z690 chipset boards. All kinds of crashes in windows, memory not dual channel, when it is and works in other system, GPU issues, bios issues, almost all problems I have ever come across in my about 25+years of experience with building computers, in building those 2 builds. 🤯 But when you get it to work it runs very good. 👍 But the headache you get with it is heavy.

My 12th Gen Intel 12900K system has been awesome!!! I went with a DD4 RAM and have it set at 3200 MHZ. NO boot issues ever. It crushes with my 3090

I've had the exact same issue with boot or system changes. I have a 12600k, 32 gb 5600mhz Gskill DDR5, and an asus Z690-A Prime. Any time I do a Bios update of which there are many, it's a a solid hour to get it back functional. I've also found leaving it alone somehow makes it think about life enough to fix. Only other issue I've found has been an occasional 5 minute delay of hardwired network connecting. Initially it was on a dirt cheap DDR4 board from MSI and the problems weren't present, so I'm assuming it's ram related. It has been a smooth transition other than that

TUF Z690 DDR4 with 12700k from near launch. Rock solid despite heavy overclock. One of the most stable intel platforms I've ever used, and I've always been on intel mainly for the stability. I think the new RAM is the issue Jay

Thank you for the video. I was seriously considering z690 hero + 12900k + 2x32G DDR5, but now after I saw that, I'll definitely pass. For me reliability and stability always comes first. I've experienced the early adopter fun few times in the past and I don't want that fun any more. Currently on Z590 Hero and 10900k +2x32GB DDr4.

MSI have been killing it with motherboards recently. The Unify boards are very solid with great memory overclocking.

06:42 No overclocking is the problem. System these days try to optimize too aggressively for all use cases. For gamers a static frequency and voltage is always the best. I ran my 12700K at 48/47 and turn off E-cores and gave it some overvoltage to make it super stable and temp at 60-70C under stress test.

Jay, I love using Windows 11. I have been using windows 11 on my desktop and laptop since October. I recently did a build with a gigabyte Z690 Aorus Extreme with a 12700K at 5.001 GHz on all cores and Corsair DDR5 at 5200 MHz. The owner of that build absolutely loves it for gaming. He is also running Windows 11

I never had any issues with my upgrade to 12th gen, my 32gb adata 5800mhz ram worked first time, xmp enabled also worked straight away. No random crashes, haven't felt the need to overclock. Cpu temps have started to creep up. But vast improvement

Been running a 12700k (to replace a 6700k, kept the GTX1080 from prev. build) for a few months now. Went with the DDR4 build to save cash, and no complaints so far. Definitely some weird booting issues from time to time. Definitely concerned about the power usage if I choose to upgrade the GPU later, as I bought a new EVGA 750W PSU, and looking at how power hungry some cards are I might not have enough for everything. Chose a Noctua NH-D15, been very satisfied.

I’m running a 12700KF with DDR4 3200 and a 6900XT. Runs perfectly with no issues and performance is amazing. 12700K runs a bit cooler than the 12900 with only a minor performance dip.

I came to 12900KF from Threadripper. It’s amazing how bad stability is with 12th gen, however gradually I have gotten it to be reasonably stable. The biggest problem is with multimonitor source switch glitch and having two different resolutions.

I had a lot of the same issues at the beginning, random freezing or restarts, blue screen of death... I have a 12th gen i9-12900K, Asus RTX 3060 12g oc, Maximus z690 formula, corsair vengeance DDR5 64g 5200Mhz ram. I kept getting a 00 error code. Long story short I found out that the ram was actually causing the issue. Then I had to use the onboard video output because, for some reason, it didn't like the driver from Nvidia. However, after updating everything and switching to windows 11 I have not had any issues. I'm getting too old to compete in PVP anymore, my response time is too slow lol, but it's a perfect rig imo for farming and streaming video on a separate monitor.

I was having similar stability issues where games would lock up, although, I didn't require a power cycle to recover. I disabled all overclocking on the CPU, didn't really need it anyway. But I believe my issues were solved when I switched from XMP II to XMP I. The system has been very stable since I did that. 12700k ASUS Maximus Formula Trident Z 32GB 6000 MHz 3080 FTW3 Ultra Windows 11

I've had an i5 12600K on an MSI Z690 Tomahawk (DDR4) for a few months now. I have 2 PC's and this is a pure gaming machine. When I bought the 12th gen CPU and related components, 30 series GPU's were out of reach so I stuck with my GTX 1080. The only issue I had is that I could not get any output from the GPU unless I changed the PCIe slot to Gen 2 in the BIOS - even on the latest BIOS from MSI. When I finally was able to buy a 3080 at a decent price ($1399 AUD) I installed it, changed the PCIe back to auto and have had zero issues with the PC at all. I'm also running Windows 11 Pro. So, I am very happy with 12th Gen Intel.

Jay, great video as always, I learn heaps from this channel so thanks! I built a new system as I'm into a little gaming and some video editing work.... It was years since I ever built a system so I may not have it all correct and in fact the only thing I feel I need at the moment is a better GPU BUT what I do have and run is great, no problems to speak of apart from Steam not supporting Win 11 when it comes to VR Halflife which is a pity as the game is fantastic when playing in Win 10 OS. Anyway my specs are as follows: Asus Rog Z690 MB 12th Gen Intel i9-12900 CPU 3.2 Ghz - 5.2 Ghz 980 Pro 2TB M.2 SSD x 2 Corsair Vengeance DDR5 RAM 32GB @ 5600Mhz Corsair RMX Series 850 Watt Plus Gold PSU Kraken Z53 Liquid Cooler Win 11 Pro - Corsair 7000D White AirFlow ATX Full Tower Gaming Case Oh and I have to admit I think I really need a bigger water cooler.

I've been really surprised with how stable my 12th Gen system has been. 12900K, Rog Strix Z690-F and DDR5.

Hi, my take on this is that my good old Hackintosh got a "little" outdated for my homestudio works (music production, audio editing and 4k footage editing) and i stumbled across guys wondering if it would be possible to make this happen on 12th gen CPUs, as Apple does not use them. Long story short, these insane nuts made it happen with not too much hassle to get around the big/little stuff and i tried to give it a crack. Thunderbolt is working, performance is insane - to be honest: power draw as well, but given the fact the Mac would have cost me at least three times the money i consider this a win/win for me. And no: for this setup AMD would have never been a possibility, as AMD hacks always show up weird issues with Apple specific software as Adobe studio, Logic, FCPX or the macos version of Davinci. As i am dealing with the power draw only while rendering, it is bearable for me. Fun fact is that i am getting the same performance with my macos setup as with my WIN11 setup (dual boot). Am i happy ? Yes ! P.S.: GB Z690 Gaming X DDR4, 32 GB DDR 3600-CL16, 12700K, some NVME Gen4 drives and my trusty RX 570 8GB (for given reasons)...and anything before BIOS version F4 was...ahem...difficult - so this stuff was not only Asus related.

I run a 12900k on a strix z690 with 2x 16g vengeance ddr5 5600and strix 3080ti and have not experienced any issues as of yet... however my computer is stationary and never unplugged. I may have to test that now after watching this. thanks for the great vid

I've been on a 12900K since release on an Asus ROG Strix Z690 Gaming A DDR 4 board with a 3080 and have had 0 issues Jay, slight overclock to 5ghz all core on the CPU and 2 x 16gb Sticks of Crucial ballistix DDR 4 CL14 3600 running at 3800 on Windows 11, It's been rock solid since day 1.

I got the 12600K after release along with Windows 11 and haven't had any issues with those but.... The Z690 motherboard issues were a disaster. I got the Gigabyte Z690i DDR4 and had to RMA it THREE times for QC issues. First time it was DOA; second time was a dead m.2 slot, third time it was the PCIe slot intermittently recognizing my GPU. I did not have a working system for like 4+ months. I finally went Asrock and has been solid since.

Since Jay asked about 12th gen in general, one of the PC i'm using is an 12700k and it has worked flawlessly for close to 2 months now. However 12th gen is where the similarities end between my PC and what Jay has: i still use Windows 10 and i still use DDR4, my mobo is a Gigabyte z690.

Jay. U r the man dude. I’m doing a i9 12900kf, z690 formula liquid cool cpu with 32 gb 5400 ddr5. Hoping I don’t run into any of these problems man.

I don't have any issues keeping my 12900k cool. I do find the Corsair 1700 retaining screws too short which is probably why they're bending procs. I used the 15XX screws and it fits perfectly and even with modest overclocking stays around 70-75c while stress testing. Obviously going higher heats it up more but I'm not going crazy because it's expensive and already a beast.

Love my 12900k after around a month of use. Haven't experienced any issues with DDR5 and ASUS motherboard. It definitely runs warm and I undervolted with offset of -.095. It still benches ~27k in Cinebench while being 10-15 degrees cooler.

Had a similar issue with my 12900k and 3090 system on ddr4 platform. I dropped 200mhz off the ram and it runs smooth now. Specs of my Build are in my uploaded Videos description.

Just built 12900 on an MSI MPG Force WiFi with DDR5 32Gb Fury Beast 4800 mhz. I'm only gaming with MSFS2020 and Xplane. My first and only build using Noctua H-D15 and MSI 4070 TI. Love it so far. I originally was going to use ASUS MOBO but chose not to when Steve from GN said they had issues using them. It's still early in the build yet! Love your channel 😊

I honestly believe it's the board Jay. MSI boards are the only ones I've heard of not having problems. I'd also be interested to know what your voltages and core frequencies are looking like. I've had extremely great performance running my 12900k, on my MSI Edge ddr4 board. I've pushed everything to extremes to learn where the limits are and then throttled back for stability. The two things that made a huge difference on temps for me was the load line calibration mode, kingpin thermal paste, and the rock it cool liquid metal delid.

I’ve been running a 12900k with a 3090 for almost 2 months. So far my biggest issues with it is heat and ram speeds. It’s been great especially since I’m like you Jay I came from a 9980xe to this and it blows it away. Rendering out my first videos after switching to it made me laugh hysterically. So much faster even though I lost 2 real cores. Also gen 5 NVME storage is NUTS. Windows 11 has been good so far as well. All of my programs work just fine and WTF the windows search actually works now. I’ve noticed that a lot of the programs that I used, run on the CPU harder which could be why it’s so much faster. Also Wi-Fi 6 is great with the new motherboards especially when uploading files. I’ve had one issue where a ram speed setting would work great for about a week and then it would just boot loop. Then I would lower the ram speed down and it would work for a week and it would boot loop and reset again. I’m running the ram way slower than XMP but it’s still way faster than my older PC. Setup CPU: I9 12900kF Cooler: NZXT Z73 AIO with free room heater ;) Ram: 64GB DDR5 ram 6000 speeds ( I used two kits of 32 GB 6000. Runs at 4700 tho) Motherboard: MSI z690 MEG ACE Graphics Card: EVGA 3090 FTW 3 Power Supply: EVGA Supernova 1600w 80 plus platinum. Case: Lain Li o11 Dynamic XL

Definitely seeing one similarity where I'm playing a game for a while and it'll lock up entirely requiring a power cycle to come back to windows. I've found it being better after the last Bios update and doing a clean install of Windows 11. Otherwise no issues thus far, thankfully. Edit: I should say that the lock-up happens very rarely. Maybe once every few days while playing Satisfactory.

I want to request a video(s). I think it'd be great if you made videos about motherboard manufacturers (Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Dell, ASRock, etc). Just talking about the history of the manufacturer, quirks/trends you've noticed, and what you think about they're products in general.

it’s such a beast, it just gets pretty hot while gaming. i pretty much can’t play new world without getting to 75-80c so i just don’t even bother. to be fair, it seems more like it’s new world’s fault, but it’s proof that if this cpu gets a heavy load it will be cooking

Just built a new pc with a 5800x3D, end of the gen so no more upgrading, but tbh I’ll enjoy all the stability and I know people still playing their games on gtx 970’s, and I only play multiplayer fps, which those come out once in like 5-10 years at this point. So I think having stable gen with what imo is currently the best cpu available will be absolutely fine.

I've been on 12900k and DDR5 for about 2 months now and yes, I've had complete system lockups. No bluescreens but two occasions where I totally froze up and had to hard reset. I am using all gigabyte parts, though, and a 3080ti xtreme.

So far I have to say my experience has been awesome. But to be honest I upgraded from an i7- 4790K Devil's canyon, which I would still keep using if the motherboard had not died. When making the purchase at micro center I was almost talked into going AMD (they pushed hard). But I don't regret my purchase. So far after 2 months I have not had one crash. The only issue I had was an annoying blinking when switching between monitors which was instantly fixed when I updated the my drivers. I was told that the initial RAM I wanted would not work and I had to have my Ram changed several times before we found one that worked with my board. Prob as expected making such a drastic upgrade for me made a world of difference. But I am happy with my experience. I am even using a fan heatsink as I did not want to deal with having to replace an AIO in the future. I've have still only had my system for 2 months so we will see if the great vibes continue but here is breakdown of what I'm using: Corsair 32GB 2x16 DDR5 5600 Gigabyte z690 Aorus Ultra AtX MB Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 Cooler Case: Lian I LanCool II Mesh Maingear T2 1200Watt powersupplyIntel I9 12900K Time to get a new Mobo for my 4790K maybe turn into a HTPC.

I haven’t had any problems yet with 12th gen. It’s really fast and snappy as you describe. I’ve also overclocked it to 5.2 pcore 4.0 ecore, but I also feel it’s not worth. I am rocking DDR4 also. And for gaming and streaming it’s feels amazing. Really happy at the moment with it’s performance.

I would like to see more of this,cause persons just build a pc show it works n when you do build the same build you run into alot of software problems.

I have had my 12700K for 5 months now and it has been great. I am using a DDR4 platform with XMP enabled with no issues. I have had only 1 app that had an issue with the E-Cores. Knockout City would have massive stuttering issues and be unplayable until I disabled the E-Cores in my BIOS. I also have had issues with Lock-Ups however my monitors cut to white, green, or black, with the 0x116 code. Its almost like the GPU stops responding because sounds are still being played and I can still communicate with people via discord before the system resets. Which leads me to think its not an issue with the CPU. I have used both Windows 10 and 11 on this machine (Just upgraded to Windows 11 a couple days ago) and so far no issues. I will see if I get the same 0x116 codes on Windows 11. UPDATE: My PC just crashed with the same 0x116 Code, so I can confirm it still happens on windows 11 System Specs: CPU: i7 12700K GPU: GTX 1070Ti RAM: 64GB DDR4 @3600MHz MOBO: MSI Z690 Gaming Edge Wi-Fi Boot Drive: Samsung 850 Evo SSD

i will get the i9 12900k tommorow and my motherboard MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 next day..i will inform you how it went ..keep the good work

Hi Jay, just finished setting up 12th gen. 12700K + Asus TUF Gaming Plus Wifi D4.. So far no blue-screens, no issue with system hanging.. XMP 1 profile set in and never had an issue. ☺️🤞🏻

Sounds like the mobo , I've had mine since release ddr5 12900k and I'm on an aorus pro mobo . Absolutely no issues for me gaming or workload.

I’d check the power at your receptacles in both rooms. You can also check for power consistency to see how steady the rec stays at the standard 120v. If it’s bouncing around a lot , that could be an issue. Also there could be voltage drop depending how far you are away from the panel. You could try a upc apc battery backup sine wave and that will provide a clean and consistent power to your pc. Some other simple fixes would be to unplug everything else from the problem circuit and see it the issue still happens. I guess if your really desperate you could change out the rec and circuit breaker with new ones.or it’s just a Lemmon motherboard.

I just love the ifix it add I cry my eyes out laughing every time i see it keep up the good work

I built a new system in February 2022 much like yours Jay. Asus ROG Strix Z690-E motherboard, i9 12900K, 32 GB G.Skill 6000 DDR5, EVGA RTX 3080Ti, Windows 11 Pro. I made sure I was on the latest BIOS, and have the latest chipset drivers etc. I also made sure my memory was on the qualified Asus list for this motherboard, and I have no overclocking set except for using the XMP1 profile for my memory. Temps on the video card and the CPU are around 32 degrees Celsius at idle, and under load are between 60 and 70 Celsius each (I have a 360mm Enermax AIO cooler on the CPU and 4 case fans in my Corsair 5000D Airflow case). The system has been rock-solid EXCEPT for when I run Battlefield 2042. That game would regularly crash and put me back to the desktop seemingly at random. Some nights it doesn't happen at all, and other nights it happens three times in an hour. No problems with any other games or apps (like Rainbow Six Siege, or when I edit and encode my GeForce Experience videos for KZfaq using the ShotCut program). The first thing I did in an attempt to stop the crashes with BF2042 was to use DDU to remove all the drivers and reinstall the latest GeForce drivers and GeForce Experience. After that, BF2042 would still crash and I even had a complete system lock-up and blue screen error while running BF2042 (a first for my system). However, it has just been over the past few days that I believe I have figured out the reason for my BF2042 crashes. When I play BF2042, I stop running the EVGA Precision X1 software (I still run Precision X1 all other times). Over the past few days, I have not had a single crash or blue screen while running BF2042. I suspect that BF2042 simply does not run well with Precision X1 for some reason. I hope this helps someone out there and gives some insight into what may be causing issues others may be having. I'm very happy with my 12th gen system and am very glad I built it earlier this year. Good luck in resolving the remaining issues you may still have with your system. I know it's not an easy or always fun thing to troubleshoot.

These type of problems sound like bad power delivery to the CPU. Which could sometimes be fixed with a BIOS update or be caused by a bad motherboard. But don't forget the PSU in this matter. I didn't hear Jay say he tried a different PSU, which is definitely worth trying. Especially because he mainly had the problem in one location but not the other.

absolutely no problem with mine have had it from launch mighty cpu

So far so good for me. I have been using a 12700k since January and haven't had any issues. I am using a Aorus DDR4 board running windows 10. Been considering switching to Windows 11 since I'm on 12th gen, but haven't done it yet.

So I was a very early adopter and started my build early this year as soon as I could get my hands on all the parts. I went with the 12th gen i9 with 64 gb GSkillz 6000 DDR5 (4 sticks of 16) an Asus ProArt Z690 (took the longest to get even though I had a lot of the parts by the end of last year and I will explain the need for this board in a bit) went with 4 gen4 Samsung 2tb 980 pros and a water cooled 3080 with an Asus ROG Ryujin II 360 on the CPU for cooling, all the rest of the case fans are Noctua and the Phanteks 1200 w dual system power supply (because I have a mini-itx running a AMD 5600G on the other side of the of the Metallicgear NEO cube as a daily driver). The AMD system is running on the Asus x570-I and runs flawlessly. The i9 on the other hand runs great now, although the occasional blue screen happens after sitting idle for more than a day with Ableton live open on it. I had a ton of trouble getting the bios to recognize the ram speeds before a few bios revisions, but now that is working fine. Never had any lockup issues though, even in the early days of use. The overclocking works great and is a speed demon running all my audio production software and plugins without so much as a hiccup. Can't say the same for my old 32 core threadripper, that speed and workload wise, can't hold a candle to the 12th gen. At least for my use case. I am using the system for audio production and have a ton of audio tracks and effects running live all the time, hence the need for the ProArt with built in thunderbolt for my UAD effects box and Presonus thunderbolt audio card. So far other than the occasional idle blue screen problem (haven't really looked into it because it hasn't affected my workflow) the system has run flawlessly. No complaints here, and that is hard for me to say with new tech working for me so early in the cycle, especially for my audio production use case. Just my 2 cent 😁

Hilarious timing. I'm watching this video right now while waiting for my memory test to complete on my DDR5 memory. I have spent months trying to figure out how to get this platform stable, and it's still on-going. I've been chasing what I thought was instability on my CPU, but I'm now starting to wonder if it's RAM related. Never had to put this much work into stability testing as I have on this platform. It's fast, but my God. I haven't had much issues with the 12900k in games and work, with the exception of Star Citizen. That game absolutely will not run with the E cores enabled. You HAVE to disable them (and parking the cores doesn't work either), which is extra annoying.

Sitting tight with my 5800x/3080fe system for now but my next full-upgrade will most likely be Intel-based. I really enjoy this type of longer term "hands-on" content where we learn things we normally would not until AFTER buying!

I just swapped to 12th gen and it’s been doing really well! Like you said the response time is so much faster and frame rates have skyrocketed

Jay.. that ifixit commercial kills me everytime.. please do all your adverts like that.

Just finished my 12900k build. First thing I did was undervolt. It's way too power hungry for my liking. Was able to go -0.075 vcore offset and 190watt with no loss in Cinebench. I feel they really are inefficient to push performance, beyond what we've ever seen in the past.

Upgraded my wife's computer to 12th gen with DDR4 and it's been rock solid, even with the existing Windows install. I definitely think DDR5 is your culprit here.

I am using 12700K and it has been great so far. With 10+ virtual machines running at the same time and surfing and watching videos at the same time, I have not encountered any issues. I also game, mostly strategic games where a lot is going on the screen and have not had any issues so far. It has been 6+ months now. Rest of hardware is nvidia 3070, 64gb ddr4 3600mhz, 2 m2 ssds, all air cooled in a lancool new case. interesting thing though is, gpu and motherboard are both from MSI.. so having same vendors there might have helped? Thanks for your videos Jay!

Video is a year old I know this but, I had to comment because I just received the parts for my new build, which included i9 12900kf and DDR5. I wanted to comment to personally thank captainloony for issues with the ddr5 memory and how you fixed it by *not* using xmp profile 1 and used xmp profile 2 because xmp 2 profile uses the strict timings set by the manufacturer. Awesome post Thanks Captainloony4356

This has made me realize how stable my 3600 is despite overclocking it the edge; for those curious it's not a good sample being earlier silicon, I'm running 1.3375V and 4.15GHz under a 280MM AIO.