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I've Never Seen RNG Like This - Leningrad

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Күн бұрын

I still can't believe how many fires I had.
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@Art-Francois
@Art-Francois 2 жыл бұрын
Had the exact opposite the other day. 450 hits in the Marceau, only HE, and.... zero fire xD
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 2 жыл бұрын
I though 77 hits with Ibuki and no fire (on Tier 9s....) was bad!
@cob-codeofbrawl7668
@cob-codeofbrawl7668 2 жыл бұрын
39 hits with conqueror, 1 fire and insta cleaned
@m_swizzy22
@m_swizzy22 2 жыл бұрын
I had 250-300 in a Mainz and no fires set.
@timp.9593
@timp.9593 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god a week ago or so i had the exact game except i shot about 15%ap and only hab about 400 hits. meanwhile the ememys were accusing the thunderer on my team of chating cause he had so many
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 жыл бұрын
At least you know where they had gone :D
@perfectcell2061
@perfectcell2061 2 жыл бұрын
The other day a yammy dcp'd a single fire from my nevsky and i immediately double perma'd him. The next salvo also set 2 permas. That quadra perma was probably the most amazing thing i've ever seen in this game
@wizedo
@wizedo 2 жыл бұрын
It makes no sense although it feels great when you're on the dealing end. I think the fire mechanics need some kind of buffer. It gets frustrating to dcp a triple fire and get a double one just after that, even if from another ship.
@brianfrost615
@brianfrost615 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Potato Quality, love the videos and game play. I did the math. 9% of 233 is 20.97. You got 18 fires. So you were pretty much right on pace for the ships HE performance. Thank you for the video.
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is that he was able to send that many shells downrange and not get targeted to Hell and gone by half the red team IMO.
@shoukatsukai
@shoukatsukai 2 жыл бұрын
Imo, Leningrad's black and gold defender camo is the best perma camo in the game
@imhooks
@imhooks 2 жыл бұрын
You tend to only remember the bad RNG moments. It's like in poker, you only remember the time you were beat on the river by a 1 outer. But never the times you beat someone out in the same way.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR 2 жыл бұрын
While that is true, RNG in games is not true RNG because true RNG is very computationally demanding. Instead they use pseudorandom number generators using seeds, and the resulting incredibly lucky/unlucky games are due to favorable/unfavorable seeds.
@MrSharkswith
@MrSharkswith 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! You were pretty lucky that the enemy team wasn't trying to shoot you for the majority of the game is what I feel. Your choice of ships to shoot was well done, though, as you focused on ships that weren't on fire or had just damaconed your allies fires. That is just the way it goes sometimes...
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 2 жыл бұрын
This right here!!! The moment I light up in a DD 9 times out of 10 at least 2 to 4 red team ships are targeting me. And I see SO much of this in Unicom videos. I'm not saying I never have somebody do something stupid in front of me because just today I had a 5 citadel match in my Massachusetts so obviously it happens. It's just really rare that I see that level of stupid on the red team.
@antlerman7644
@antlerman7644 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same experience in Friesland and haru. Great fires per min DPM and sometimes I have games with 200+ shell hits and under 3 fires, other I fire 50 and I get 5/6 fires. It's so inconsistent it's frustrating.
@doomboygammer6009
@doomboygammer6009 2 жыл бұрын
My vote for how to deal with fire chance is to force them to be more consistent. For every shell that doesn't cause a fire, the fire chance increases so that the number of fires for every 100 hits is equal to the ship's fire chance. To balance this, changing targets should reset the buff, and there should be a fire chance nerf across the board, and the "garanteed fire count" would be altered by fire prevention (a ship with 8% fire chance firing st a ship with 50% fire prevention would be set on fire every 25 hits so long as the ship never changed targets and wasn't hitting a part of the ship already burning). Might make fires a bit too easy to get, but would at least make them more consistent.
@steelraen
@steelraen 2 жыл бұрын
i had 2 king georges call me a hack while i was playing my Hood the other day, i was able to get 3 fires on both of them, they DCP'd and then i was able to light 4 fires on them right after, never seen my RNG so good
@diegowushu
@diegowushu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the randomness is exactly the point of the design. That's how you get people to keep coming. Those that don't just ditch the whole thing as bullshit, that is.
@Adesterr
@Adesterr 2 жыл бұрын
yep, same mechanism as in casinos. I am pretty sure that wargaming is even monitoring your patience through mouse movement and other inputs and then rigs the rng to keep you just on the point of frustration that a good game will feel even more rewarding. They turn us into gambling addicts.
@zachary_maskell
@zachary_maskell 2 жыл бұрын
*patiently waiting for PQ to acknowledge the supercarriers*
@pyalot
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
18 fires per 233 hits equates to a 7.7% fire chance. The leningrad has an alpha fire chance of 8%. In match chance should be a lot lower due to fire prevention, hitting ships during dcp and hitting sections already on fire. Lets assume realistic chance is 4%. An 18 fire match is statistically likely to occur 153 matches. Below is the listing: - 2%: Every 100000 - 3%: Every 3000 - 4%: Every 153 - 5%: Every 22 - 6%: Every 6 - 7%: Every 3 - 8%: Every 1.6 Obviously a player can improve their chances by targeting sections/ships not on fire, picking targets with less fire prevention and waiting out dcps.
@eddieguzelis56
@eddieguzelis56 2 жыл бұрын
According to probability If the reduction was for all ships 40% that would make chances of causing a fire 5.4% And in 233 trials to succeed (cause a fire) at least 18 times P(X>=18) = 0.08 8% so you were in fact very lucky
@Borzoi-appreciator
@Borzoi-appreciator 2 жыл бұрын
Good RNG played a big part in this match, but it's also worth noting that you had half a dozen BBs pushing into you, none of whom where funning Fire Prevention, all while completely ignoring a DD running around in open water. I'd say it was the perfect storm of good RNG, being in a good/lucky position, and (mostly) MM putting all the apes on the enemy team.
@kurfurst6465
@kurfurst6465 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why pseudo-random isn’t implemented in the game yet
@angga2917
@angga2917 2 жыл бұрын
@@Legendendear and one guaranteed citadel when shooting broadside ship.
@totallylegit4092
@totallylegit4092 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a khaba game where I hate 220 hits and 2 fires set. Seeing this makes me cry. Lol I also remember a Sov Soyuz game where I had 20 pens and no damage. Havent had that in a while but no damage pens are the worst.
@bmvhusky
@bmvhusky 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I need a arsonist award for tier 5 or higher and the leningrad dropped in a crate for me recently. Looks like I might just have the perfect fire starter to pull it off. How did you build it out and what's the commander build like?
@Y0urricane
@Y0urricane 2 жыл бұрын
that embarrassing. but even worse is when shells hit the back of the ship, but fire appears on the front, because the back is already on fire. I've seen the same issue on Flamu's streams twice.
@syedushherahmad311
@syedushherahmad311 2 жыл бұрын
Got a game in my cleaveland, a fire every 10 shells, 180 shells, 18 fires
@timstruppi3414
@timstruppi3414 2 жыл бұрын
Cleveland has 12% firechance.... so 1 fire every 10 shells looks near to what should happen....
@willowsperch
@willowsperch 2 жыл бұрын
watching this live was absolutely nuts
@skupina1136
@skupina1136 2 жыл бұрын
It reminded me times, when you just got hits without visible DD somewhere over its firing visibility range... :D
@roydelpozo4816
@roydelpozo4816 2 жыл бұрын
The Leni and the gremi are known firestarters . Rng loves them .
@onaucc9899
@onaucc9899 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a nice Uptier compensation mecanic: a multiplier on the Fire / Flooding Chance.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 жыл бұрын
it really isnt nice, due to % based hp loss of each fire. Nothing balanced about them
@orionbukantis6470
@orionbukantis6470 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that different tier ships had different base fire resistance, great info!
@gabrielgasiorowski7827
@gabrielgasiorowski7827 2 жыл бұрын
I am playing Marceau and Colbert a lot, but never had 18 fires during one game, and those are fire starter ships 😬
@SpiderBoat
@SpiderBoat 2 жыл бұрын
Yo PQ! Chances here must be astronomical. I did notice though that everything i took notice of was not running fire prevention, so that might have been a big part of it too
@MrMengAmok
@MrMengAmok 2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember exactly. But I had a game in the Friesland with 25 fires ore something like that. But in this game quite a few got repaired right after they got set. Still was a good dmg game.
@Vodhka
@Vodhka 2 жыл бұрын
sir, your Leningrad seems to have decided it wants to be a Conqueror
@joedoe6444
@joedoe6444 2 жыл бұрын
i think the game spins a wheel when you log on and you never know till you start playing if it landed on "you will pen everything today" or " you will bounce everything today" till you start playing. i will have a 90% win rate one day, followed by a 20% day. i play the same, my aim is the same, but my win rate goes up and down by such a large margin from one day to the next.
@batrastardly4574
@batrastardly4574 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I've experienced this on occasion. What I see more often though is the opposite. Like 330 HE hits for one fire in a Smolensk. Considering the Smolensk shatters like crazy, that's a lot of "no damage" hits. I've suspected a bug for some time now. I also think there's an aiming bug everytime I'm in a BB and I hit a DD at 14km only to completely bracket a BB at 6km moments later.
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just say there is some wonky stuff that goes on out there.
@adamcook6557
@adamcook6557 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on how it seems the matchmaker is more broken than it has been in the past? Seems more teams are made of players that die in 2-3 min
@martinsjostrom5746
@martinsjostrom5746 2 жыл бұрын
The other day i got 23 fires with the 7 provincien, it felt unnormally lucky that game. Every time you wanted a permanent fire you got it
@Diisonbravo
@Diisonbravo 2 жыл бұрын
We need your thoughts on the Incomparable!
@admiralfloofz658
@admiralfloofz658 2 жыл бұрын
Yea Ive had that. I remember when the russian BBs came out and I got to the tier 6. First game ever in that ship I had 220k and 6 kills. 4 devstrikes. I sent the replay to Aetam and he featured it so its there somewhere, I said they were brokenly overpowered and he corrected me and said I got really lucky. Then I had a second game after that game with basically the exact same results. Over 200k 3-4 devstrikes and 6 kills. Then I was never able to redo it ever again. Look Ive been confident for many years that Wargaming games are rigged to all hell just like mobile games. There is no such thing as "oh Im good so I have a high WR". Its all in your head, its made so you think that way and so you spend money on the game. Like when I first started playing WoWs I had an abnormally high WR, like 58-60% for my first 3k games. I thought I was a natural and was really good at the game, then it was like someone flicked a switch. I couldnt win a game to save my life, for months, a year or two. My WR dropped like a stone and I was constantly furious at the game. Then for the hell of it I started a second account, with no flags, no premium, no camos no nothing. I grinded myself up to tier 8 in the british DD tree. That account now has a 68% overall completely solo WR. Its just a trick, a mindtrick.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR 2 жыл бұрын
Matchmaking is rigged (WG would probably call it "balancing"). The more often you win in recent matches, the more often you'll be bottom-tier. The more often you lose, the more often you'll be top-tier. The problem is that players that play poorly consistently will keep getting top-tier spots more frequently, thus impairing their teams because they can't carry, thus hurting their WR (and that of their teammates') even more. It's a vicious cycle.
@soulstrykena2934
@soulstrykena2934 2 жыл бұрын
Leningrad ❤️ I’ve had game like that in my Udaloi, another great boat. Enemies would comment in chat about the ridiculous fires.
@jezzae4962
@jezzae4962 2 жыл бұрын
Been on both ends of it had games where every salvo it felt like I was lighting fires, felt kinda bad for the enemy team tbh, but ive also had games where I didnt get a single fire until 100+ shell hits, also had games where 1 he shatter lights me on fire as I dive behind island cover only to get lit up again by a rogue shell as soon as that fire goes out.
@mongrelmarcos5488
@mongrelmarcos5488 2 жыл бұрын
let's have a drinking game, have a shot every time he sets a fire
@jfinn3575
@jfinn3575 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger luck in this video is the fact nobody is shooting at you the entire time, that's the real luck.
@mariusfourie4
@mariusfourie4 2 жыл бұрын
I've recently had a game where just about every salvo I fired hit a citadel.
@cwpo1973
@cwpo1973 2 жыл бұрын
One way you got really lucky was that that Pommern B obviously wasn't secondary spec'd.
@aRchAng3lZz
@aRchAng3lZz 2 жыл бұрын
I have experienced the extremes of RNG mostly in the Thunderer (either doing 2 and even 3 fires for every salvo, or making 1-2 fires for the entire game).
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 2 жыл бұрын
When was this game? I got burned to death twice yesterday (in Massa and Lenin) SO quickly, both ships are full survival build but there was no stopping the fires. Not the fast heal and not the fast DCP could save me, I was not taking any crazy risks or out of position, just almost any HE hit I took seemed to set me on fire. Stopped playing BB's for that reason yesterday.
@watdeneuk
@watdeneuk 2 жыл бұрын
It's like people believing in miracles: 99,9% of your days seem pretty normal, then one day you experience SUCH IRL RNG that make them say: that hás to be a miracle. Or ''game broken'' in WOWS.
@bonsaibaum
@bonsaibaum 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exakt opposite of fire rng :D 250 HE hits with Hindenburg and no fires lit. I felt pretty scammed to be honest. But at least I dealt around 150K damage, this calmed me down :D
@jebbyc6419
@jebbyc6419 2 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of fire prevention on those BBs, but still!
@wombat4191
@wombat4191 2 жыл бұрын
I think Minsk is just better than Leningrad. Having 8 km torps instead of 4 km is nice, but they are still quite situational considering the playstyle. In turn, Leningrad's downside compared to Minsk actively hampers the playstyle, because it is having that horrid turret traverse. Minsk traverse isn't great either, but at least the turrets can somewhat keep up with your turning speed. Leningrad simply can't do full maneuvers and shoot at the same time, which means that you either give up evasiveness or DPM.
@nicholashj324
@nicholashj324 2 жыл бұрын
I got 22 fires in a jean bart onse that was insane
@martinstanek9711
@martinstanek9711 2 жыл бұрын
They must really want u in the CC program 😁
@Capperr
@Capperr 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a conqueror game where it took just under 80 hits to set my first fire.
@krishwashere2
@krishwashere2 2 жыл бұрын
85k fire damage wow!
@maudrysilvain5905
@maudrysilvain5905 2 жыл бұрын
so, is that tier 7 Smolensk with that number of fire ribbon Also the painful question is here, tomorrow a video on supercarriers ?
@brett76544
@brett76544 2 жыл бұрын
may be on a Dallas, but on a DD, what did you sacrifice to the god of RNG
@nabilzakiron6615
@nabilzakiron6615 2 жыл бұрын
I once set 4 fires with my moskva, with only 5 shell hits lol.
@anij9085
@anij9085 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie my thunderer sometimes just starts the fire like every salvo and sometimes I got like zero fires for 35 hits in a thunderer 😑😑😑
@anttihiltunen5216
@anttihiltunen5216 2 жыл бұрын
If thunderer hit my ship(any ship) insta 2 fires 1 salvo... My rng...
@anidiot2818
@anidiot2818 2 жыл бұрын
Same but with my conqueror. This thing just refuses to set fires. It takes 4 salvos to get a double fire, which gets repaired instantly, only to get another 4 salvos and the repair is available again. That's why I don't play it often. Smolensk is also cursed for me. On the other side, my Cleveland is a flamethrower that sets everything on fire with the first salvo. It feels like some ships just don't work, while others seem broken.
@burningphoneix
@burningphoneix 2 жыл бұрын
RNG is actually based and chaospilled
@Studio-7V
@Studio-7V 2 жыл бұрын
Uploaded 54 seconds ago. Oh boy I can sense the gamer moment from here
@triarfunk5093
@triarfunk5093 2 жыл бұрын
PQ i got a khaba game the other day, 250 HE hits with 0 hits on ships which werent on fire, i was healing them xD know exactly what you mean
@sliceofcheese8360
@sliceofcheese8360 2 жыл бұрын
This stuff happens and then I fire 4 conqueror salvos at a republic and not a single fire lol
@cssmodding9190
@cssmodding9190 2 ай бұрын
i had a game in a kitakaze 372 hits with HE and only one fire
@bushyfromoz8834
@bushyfromoz8834 2 жыл бұрын
My RNG goes the other way. I have literally had 70 HE hits in Thunderer and had 2 fires....
@nedo6018
@nedo6018 2 жыл бұрын
Image if this game had minimal RNG, haru would be so broken
@krakenkill
@krakenkill 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing stronger than Stalinium, is Leninium
@marlucill9440
@marlucill9440 2 жыл бұрын
The luckiest game I've had was in mellonman, with 2 drops setting quad fires
@goaway7346
@goaway7346 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations You've been noticed and War Gambling have activated "CC rng" on your account.
@richardlochner5293
@richardlochner5293 2 жыл бұрын
King George in ranked 167k dmg and 22 fires
@Schnaqer
@Schnaqer 2 жыл бұрын
But comrad, is stronk russian ship!
@droidmotorola3884
@droidmotorola3884 2 жыл бұрын
I had a conkek game were I go 116 hits 2 fires.
@Beep2bleep
@Beep2bleep 2 жыл бұрын
I guess they use the real RNG. Yes absurd RNG (along with the comment of 450 hits and 0 fire) are totally normal if they use real RNG. Fact is most people can't understand real RNG so most games don't. A good example in Civ/Xcom they'll eventually give you a free hit you shouldn't make if you keep missing because people aren't used to real RNG. They could level it out and take that RNG into a chance per hit where you build up a certain amount per hit. Like if you had a 3% chance you light you'd get 0-6% of a fire each shot. So you'd get a fire on average once every 33 hits instead of having 6 shots light 6 fires rarely and have 600 shots light 0. Personally I'd prefer less rng and more of a system like that, but it would be a very different game. In the above described case you'd probably keep a count in your head and choose specific targets when you thought you were close to a fire. For PvP games I dislike true RNG. Or they could average the RNG across the game to help when you got behind or punish when you got ahead. But looks like they are just using the raw random numbers (which is VERY rare in most games).
@opposingcritter
@opposingcritter 2 жыл бұрын
Well this was beyond disgusting
@leebenson4874
@leebenson4874 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4k battles in the U.S.S. Benson and I will say this game is so rigged that it's not funny. It seems to do not go battle to battle most of the time but by the day. One day I can't miss the next I can't hit shit. WeeGee uses MM and RNG to rig the game. I've started to just play (more the one or two battles) the days where RNG seems to be on my side and my WR has gone up 15% over the last 500 battles.
@timstruppi3414
@timstruppi3414 2 жыл бұрын
Only considering the firechance not taking any lowering faktors in account I cant see the Problem. You have a 9% firechance and did 18 fires in 233 hits. Thats 7,7% chance for fires out of your total amount of shots. So where is this rng?
@hendrikaugustyniak-gaspers3616
@hendrikaugustyniak-gaspers3616 2 жыл бұрын
Today the enemy was lucky. I detonated in two subsequent games, that was fun
@phillipmerriman5603
@phillipmerriman5603 2 жыл бұрын
You said it has 9% fire starting. 18 fires in 200 hits is 9%. Nothing abnormal about the rng here.
@TK-lv9sc
@TK-lv9sc 2 жыл бұрын
My record is 120shell hits without a single fire with Hindenburg, but more often than not I need around 70 shell hits to get my first fire. Talk about RNG.. and this game being buggy as @#!#!
@murillo160592
@murillo160592 2 жыл бұрын
i remember in 2019 i delete my acount after 120 HE hits with my Gearing and get 0 (zero) fires.....
@kingmanta7679
@kingmanta7679 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what your giggling about, 7 ended up with around 8%
@paulmayer8782
@paulmayer8782 2 жыл бұрын
I swear this game rng is broken since release. I suspect that they modify rng for each game. Sometimes you get better sometimes it's worse. I don't believe for one second what I saw in my years with this game can be explained with rng. It's either that or rnJesus is actually the one real god.
@tomashermann2994
@tomashermann2994 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm my record is opposite....114 HE hits 0 fires set....... with ZAO XD
@AlanCoffey
@AlanCoffey 2 жыл бұрын
18/233= ~8%
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and what he's saying is that it shouldn't nearly be that high. 8% is Leningrad's default fire starting chance, which you don't even achieve against same tier ships.
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 жыл бұрын
Now show us your shrine where you worship rngesus
@ErvnRL
@ErvnRL 2 жыл бұрын
it's called russian bais :v
@josebonet4779
@josebonet4779 2 жыл бұрын
RNG its a f...ng joke. When u want to do damage WG says NOP!!! when u only shot with less probabilites WG says YES!!! Its a game done for a low capabilities players dont take spicological crisis for dont do damage.
@BernGrylls
@BernGrylls 2 жыл бұрын
It calls luck
@anttihiltunen5216
@anttihiltunen5216 2 жыл бұрын
I think that fires r ok but fire dmg is too powerful.. Dum that fires can sink a BB
@sardaukerlegion
@sardaukerlegion 2 жыл бұрын
Soviet bias? It's a "Lenin" right?
@red12stone
@red12stone 2 жыл бұрын
this particular game was very uncommon so lenningrad is not biased
@antlerman7644
@antlerman7644 2 жыл бұрын
Nah pretty balanced OG destroyer. Horrible consealment makes it balanced. She used to be one of the fastest ships in the game too at 42knotts
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