@@NCFC-do5djyes WE love Ellis

Aye too right, we all love what you do and how you go about it, fuck anyone that speaks ill of someone having a medical situation whilst looking ace at the same time

👍🫡 second this. His skin will get better but the people who feel they have to point it out will still be vile.

Fair play for him addressing it. NHS is crap though he needs to go see a private dermatologist

Spot on!

I mean hell, this weekend the Carolina Hurricanes will literally be wearing the uniforms of the team they stole lol

English football is the european league system people care the least about relocation, investors etc. I get your point but maybe praising "european football culture" would be way more accurate than ENGLISH football culture. You should read up why very single austrian and german fan base hates the RB clubs for example

⁠@@valpix7007stole?the owners moved the team,Hartford didn’t own the Whalers.

It was Wimbledon FC that were forced to move to MK not AFC Wimbledon. AFC Wimbledon were formed by a group of fans who rejected the idea of the move and didn't want to lose their local football team. They held trials at a local park, started at the bottom of English football and rose through 9 levels of leagues to where they are now. They even raised the money to build a new stadium next to where the old stadium used to stand (which is now a housing development). A truly remarkable story and one which I am proud to be a follower of. COYD!!!⚽⚽🔵🟡🔵🟡🟡

@@TDtog2112Nice

and they,originally,claimed The F A Cup win as their own:(

I mean from looking at and reading the history it sounds like the fans did slowly abandon them. I mean when they couldn’t build a new stadium that had to use a different one and attendance started falling and the owner couldn’t pay for it anymore so he sold it which lead to the new owner buying it and moving it

Im 40, not from MK but if I was who would I have supported then growing up in the 90s?

@@Scott-dp3lu Your families favourite team? The local non-league side? Whoever you want, but you should still support that same team now

@@stevenrose86 Milton Keynes is a new city that was established only int the 60’s. Football is live entertainment, don’t forget. If people enjoy it, fine. If you wanna hate them, also fine.

@@Dude0000 I don’t know what your point is. Burton Albion were only established in 1950. They had over 50 years of non league football before earning their current place in the league. MK City were a non league team that ended up folding once Greasy Pete had stolen Wimbledon. The city had a team. They didn’t support them. They stole someone else’s league team and then decided to support their local.

I wonder how many defected from Luton Town or Northampton Town. Can fans of either side confirm a notable drop in attendance around that time?

That guy had me raging a bit because he said the fans abandoned the club. Yeah, the only ones that abandoned the club was the owner.

'Personally I don’t hate them' is a brave position for a Wimbledon fan to take.

He’s the British version of John Fisher with the Oakland A’s, Koppel is Not just for how he so committed to selling the team to move to MK, but how he mass-sold players in the middle of seasons to kill promotion hopes

@@danpreston564 not really. I know where the real wimbledon is.

@@wimbledan I’m not sure I see the point in the hate. The old Wimbledon was dead, whether or not it moved to Mk.

No it’s because the FA forced MK to give the trophy back to Merton Council and not AFC W

​@@williammears9272 They never.

You can’t claim a 1988 cup win if you’re formed in 2002,the MK Dons are the 1988 winners as it’s basically the same club with a new name and location,the old Wimbledon didn’t leave the football league and reform as Milton Keynes,the name changed in the close season,I’m no fan of the MK Dons but I don’t think you can re-write history

@@sr7791 MK Dons were formed in 1889 as Wimbledon FC. They moved location and changed name, as Arsenal did. Wimbledon FC moved to Milton Keynes starting the season 2003-4 in MK as Wimbledon. Half way thru the season they changed their name and kit colour. MK Dons hold the 1889 registration. They have to otherwise they would be out of the league. MK Dons won the FA Cup in 1988. Wimbledon FC have not been dissolved.

As Wimbledon FC moved out of Merton, as a gesture they gave the trophies Wimbledon won while in Merton to the people of Merton.

Fuck Luton

I just call MK team the McDonald's team. I've done FM saves where I will make them a new kit with McDonald's sponsorship 🤣

Is it that deep though? Do you still hate Germany because of Hitler? No you just hate Hitler. Leave it in the past and move on. Some people will never accept change. Get with the times or be left behind is what I say

Don't care how Luton fans refer to other clubs ..Luton is an absolute shithole but props to anyone giving it large about going there..I wouldn't wish it on anyone tbh

@@harrycross3467 aw, you ok Harry? Seem like a very angry person.

Super sammy hoskins

@@louis_anderson0590 Forgot Ronaldo and Messi he’s my goat

John Brady’s Barmy Army! NTFC!

NTFC fan also, for me it's a toss up between MK and Peterborough. 😂 I do wish we had a stadium like MK's though.

@@goneriding1853 I don’t really hate MK but the scum (borough) on the other hand absolutely despise them. I’m not sure if I’d want a stadium like MK’s don’t get me wrong it’s a nice stadium but we’d end with the same problems as they have ie we wouldn’t fill it and the atmosphere wouldn’t be great.

Good to see TWO absolute giants of men appreciate a good supermarket

IKR 😂😂 before I even clicked on the video I was like MILWALL😂

Millwills like marmite loads of people like them or they hate them, I would like to see them in the prem.

@@joegilbert3149 apart from about 50% of people love marmite and 50% hate it. With Millwall about 0.01% of people love them and 99.99% hate them!

I was expecting Milwall, Franchise FC are just as bad 😂

Should be Arsenal really. I've been to MK Dons and Wimbledon in recent years. Give me MK Dons any day of the week. Decent ground, nice fans, good food, a nandos is outside for goodness sake. Wimbledon is cramped, horrible fans, abysmal stewards, even worse food, awful football. Up the MK Dons.

As one one that has been ridiculed in some shape or form my entire life. You can let it destroy you or you can rise up & meet the challenge head on find away of making itvless hurtful my way was to turn the situation in to joke so I was in control not the person or persons that where giving me a hard time in the first place. I am extremely skinny because I have Homocystinuria I was born with it pepole used to say to me when I was a kid at Primary School you look like Skeletor. I would say well you had better run for it then because he is evil & if he is evil just Imagine what I might do to you. My Dad would always put me down because I liked American football would tell me it was a stupid game & that he did not understand it I would say to him that's because your to stupid to understand it your stuck in the past. That way I was in control of the situation not my Dad. So if for example someone call's you Pizza face then say I will never go hungry then unlike you. It's all about taking control of any given situation.

We have much stricter rules in The U.K in terms of licensing drugs. And buy the sound of what you are saying that drug would not make it on to The U.K. market as it would not meet our extremely strict regulations.

I'm from the UK and about 15 years ago I was given a drug called Roaccutane. Exactly the same warnings and feedback you described. But it worked amazingly well for me also

Accutane is prescribed for acne in the UK@@alanfox691

There are quite a few drugs available on prescription here in the UK, going up to some pretty strong treatments with consequently pretty severe potential for side effects. A GP will always take skin conditions seriously and prescribe accordingly. @@alanfox691

I wouldn’t normally comment, but Ellis mentioned it. I had similar cystic acne until my early 20s. Accutane was the only thing that solved the issue for me. A total life saver. Generic is itotretinoin and looks like it’s available through NHS in UK.

i had accutane too, had no issues on it whatsoever, cleared my skin within 3 months. Had to go private tho as wait on the NHS was a joke.

Also went on accutane, had a pretty severe case, nodules and all. Was on accutane for 6 months. Pretty mild side effects.

@@maxharwood4696 Yeah a lot of people will have it without issue, it can cause some pretty nasty side effects i was lucky to get off with just the severe dry lips and headaches, carmex gets you through the dry lips though if anyone happens to be reading this who needs it haha!

Yep can vouch for roacutane, 15 years later and no hint of spots since

I took this drug too...its rough! I would not blame anyone for not wanting to take it either, its a real personal decision and may have long term affects.

RB Leipzig aren't liked in most of Germany but they are very very popular in Leipzig and parts of Eastern Germany. However if you go to Salzburg and watch Red Bull Salzburg they are not only hated by the whole of Austria but they are hated by most of their former fans. After they changed the name, colours and history of Austria Salzburg. Most the ultras of Austria Salzburg helped form a new club SV Austria Salzburg who play in the Austrian third division. They played in the first derby recently after they got drawn in the cup and it was crazy.

​@@davedavids57 What are you waffling about? East German football fans hate RB Leipzig, most football fans in Leipzig even hate RB Leipzig.

@@LinkeScharmlipe Ich habe 5 Jahre in Dresden gelebt. Dort hassen sie Bayarn noch mehr. RB hat eine durchschnittliche Fanzahl von 45.000. Jemand mag sie offensichtlich. Sie haben keinen bestehenden Verein übernommen. Lokomotive spiel immer noch. Es ist gleich nichts Red Bull Salzburg.

Hoffenheim is hated too

@@davedavids57hoffenheim might worse anyways

Now but the damage is done

Up the fucking dons

Young people won't understand

Lad clearly had no idea what he was talking about the entire time. Typical MK fan trying to justify supporting the franchise

american wombly here. Wimbledon afc will always be THE club. there are alot of international fans in the Americas because we loved seeing this club rise out of the ashes and spit in the face of the greedy bastards. i have yet to find any MK Don supporters in United States. MK Don's only contribution to English football is a HITC video

@@glencurtis6052 I'm 19 and understand perfectly

So the slightly over 1,000 attendances for two of their 'final season' games said nothing to you about a club in administration and without a home ?

@@harrycross3467we boycotted the games as the move was approved by then . We all watched AFC . 2-0 win against the Bletchley Stealers was intense 🙄

@@theskidmarkoforion4829 were you boycotting in 1993? 3,039 vs Everton that season....

@@leedsalex I hated going Selhurst. 😂

​@leedsalex our highest EVER average attendances were in the 1999/2000 season, 2 years before the relocation was confirmed. We've never been a big club, so our attendances were never particularly high, but they only became significantly low once the relocation was confirmed.

Yea I don't get the criticism that it's a soulless stadium, sell it out and it would actually look quite tasty.

stadium looks amazing imo but yeah empty af

The Enemy, proper underrated band. Class that you have a song made by local lads and fans attached to the club.

Chris billam smith?

Lincoln City Fan here. When we played them the season we won L2 we took 5.5k and they brought 10k. They were so spread out they made no noise. Also they only had that many that season as they did a deal where home supporters got a free Nando’s with their ticket. They got a lot of stick that season for it

Completely agree. Winkleman is a bit of an oddball, ex-music business bloke who revels in being the 'man about town' in Milton Keynes. Believe it or not he actually thought that building a retail park around the stadium would be a big money spinner, and cared less about the impact of moving a football team across the country.

It's pretty on brand for all of MK to be fair. It's a post WWII city near London but not London. It was nothing but a village until 60s. It was always artificial.It's pretty on brand for all of MK to be fair. It's a post WWII city near London but not London. It was nothing but a village until 60s. It was always artificial.

@@CJonesApple I've heard other commentators in looking at old forgotten media footage describing MK AS a bit of a plastic place, overall. So it probably isn't surprising that they got a team in such a lackluster manner; the team may well reflect the artificiality of the place. Honestly, MK should just drop the dons entirely and just go as their name period. 20 years is long enough, especially if you're going to not have any attachment to the old club at all. (My forgotten club, the Hartford Whalers, are only NOW finally being embraced by the team they replaced, and I'm still annoyed about that.)

If AFC can be formed out of nothing and rise up the leagues so could a local MK team. He saw an opportunity to make him money and that's the truth

Actually agree about the Dons part, they should just call it Milton Keynes FC. They might actually attract more MK support if it's 100% 'their own'.@@BigBlack81

Do you remember the Fort Lauderdale Strikers and Tampa Bay Rowdies? Are they still going?

@@lordprotector3367 no unfortunately their league went defunct. We have a new league starting next year. Jacksonville will have a team. And I think Tampa and Miami (like they need another team) but it’s going to try and be a league to rival the MLS or the very least be competitive. None of our tv covers the smaller leagues which is tough on them.

@@gypsiehunter12 That's a shame. I remember when Rodney Marsh signed for the Rowdies. I also remember NY Cosmos, with Pele!

Jags crappy owner needs to Get better players for Trevor

Some great names there

I didn't know aubameyang played for mk Dons 😂

Wrongun

They used to. Not sure why changed

and get a semblance of an atmosphere..

They cheated 115 and got away with it, being bantered for having plastic fans is the least of your concern

In all this mess have I found a fellow Clevelander?

@@Lefty216 All my life

Go Browns 🧡🤎

I actually went back to see if he ever went to the Kenny and he has. I’d love to see an updated video of him there, getting Norms and wondering around Bury Park 😭

Football violence is for bum boys

Also apparently that chairman tried it get Wycombe to relocate first but changed to wimbledon when he realised it wasn't gonna happen.

@etiennedevignolles7538 it's league two football though that's a steep price also looks soulless no atmosphere at all.

they absolutely fucking did claim the history in the beginning. It was only after AFC Wimbledon rose through the ranks they gave them the history back. The fact that they have the fucking balls to still call themselves DONS is all you need to know about how disgusting this club is.

They absolutely tried to have the history be included as part of MK. It was part of their whole plan.

​@@JMEAUS22 You are correct. I've learned some history about Wimbledon.

​@@JMEAUS22oh well

As a teenager, I had bad acne. I used a type of soap called biactol. It really worked. That's not the point. Nobody should see or comment on it. It's very poor. Skin conditions aren't something that anyone chooses, but being a sad arsehole is. Try to ignore the trolls buddy. Love your content. Good on you matey.

@@alfiekelly5914 mate, I was offering friendly advice. Definitely not trolling him, he’s a great content creator. Less of your bad attitude mate, it’s not cool

@@JamesPaulUK769I apologise. I didn't realise the full context. It's not bad attitude. I just hate people that judge others for things that they can't help. Peace?

The fans weren’t looking to move, it was the owners. If they’d announced they were going to Dublin or Yorkshire, the fans would have reacted the same way. As for Winkelman, he was the one who did it so naturally gets all the stick. To be honest the MK Dons is a hated club is a new one on me.

What about Winkleman’s plan to move QPR to MK? It was always his intention to move someone there…

It was engineered, they wanted a Premier League club somewhere potentially big, Belfast, Dublin, MK Gatwick etc We watched season after season of this, it was deliberately done for this purpose and the whole thing backfired on everyone.

Dublin.. 🥔😂

They wanted to merge with scum city Cardiff is it obvious I'm a jack

I love North American Sports have done since 1993 but my one bugbear is teams run my billionaires relocating pay for the God dam Stadium yourself you cheepscate billionaire. I look at The Raiders like a nomadic biker gang they are never in one place for to long The Dival

I love North American Sports have done since 1993 but my one bugbear is teams run my billionaires relocating pay for the God dam Stadium yourself you cheepscate billionaire. I look at The Raiders like a nomadic biker gang they are never in one place for to long The Devil's Tribe like from S.O.A. to me that's The Raiders in a complete nutshell no ones child forever scarring the land for a place to call home for a will. I am a Steelers fan since 1996 from Scotland. The N.H.L was my first interest in North American Sports in 1993 though N.H.L 93 computer game my friend Brought back from Canada & the Mighty Ducks Movie. Keep Safe hands across The Atlantic from Scotland U.S.A , U.S.A.

Hello Sgaun. Whilst I am bitterly disappointed that my Club: Millwall are no longer considered the most hated,I can understand the fury of Wimbledon fans winning the infamous 1988 F A Cup Final by beating Liverpool,in one of the great football upsets and then seeing,for years, MK Dons claiming it as their victory. My team : Millwall moved just 1/2 mile away from an old school Football Ground to a plastic, soulless, sanitised stadium in 1993 and I still have not found them :)

@@Isleofskye outside of the UK, Millwall actually have a decent following as a sort of outlaw club

@@shaunnichols1743 That's good to know. Thanks Shaun.

That’s any owner of any team.They care about your money,not you

That’s really only baseball and hockey.Hockey minor league teams often have pretty big followings

Yeah but you actually get to watch the Saturday games on TV. We can't and it's in our country lol

Good job. Football is all about The ATMOSPHERE and EXPERIENCE not sitting in an armchair waiting 3 minutes for a VAR check and in May,I enter my 8th decade:)@@bhvillaman4401

Hello, mate. We used to be even luckier, when you, simply, queued at the ground on the day. I lived in the heart of London from 1954-1983 when I moved to the very edge of S London, in The Suburbs and we just chose which one of the 12 teams we would watch. There was one occasion when this system came unstuck when 41,000 turned up for Tje F A Cup 3rd Round at The OLD DEN @Milwall and I could not get in . That was January 1968 for Millwall v Spurs but I DID get in for the replay when 73,000 turned up at Spurs and they let the first 58,000 in, under the lights :)

College football games(in the Midwest and south)are in bigger stadiums and are very loud and full.

@@frankf684 were talking about real soccer not eggball but yeah I’m sure that’s the truth.

I came here to ask about that.

If we was plastic we would watch a prem team not spending our Saturdays going to watch Barrow and Forest Green

😂😂😂😂

That hardly makes you old

@@glencurtis6052 4'1

​@@glencurtis6052that's at least 40 so yeah he is bud

I am too - never seen such a complete donkey - he could barely pass the ball - think he only did when he found a player he wasn't originally aiming for. He gave us away fans the chance to take the mick almost every time he touched the ball. I will never forget the look on his face when someone accidentally tripped him up - the sheer indignation at the effrontery - didn't the player realise who he was.

Is that not down to Gateshead being a Newcastle United catchment area for want of a better team. Pulse Gateshead have that stupid running track round the pich is that not a massive issue atmosphere wise.

u lot were quiet all gane

Devon is yellow

@@iidannyinho yesss mate we have a genius on our hands here 💛💙

yep cheers mate😂

You support a great club! 👍

Your club is utterly sickening. Milton Keynes was made to reject Londoners to a new town. You'll never understand what it means to be from South London, a cultural hotbed, the best rollercoaster on Earth. So much great music and theatres and stadiums yet so many estates, so much deprivation, so many stabbings every single week. These estates bring cage football - AFC Wimbledon are the best example of triumphing over adversity. For a team that originally got rapid promotions in the late 70s to a club moved 72 kilometres away, with the colours, badge, name and location all drastically changed, from the 9th tier the fans set up a new club and got 5 promotions in 9 years. Through offering contracts to young pro footballers, we've saved so many kids from disgusting knife violence that you could NEVER understand. We still have no money as a club. We give players £15 vouchers for local cafes to get lunch as we can't even afford to have a canteen in our training ground. Our fans clubbed together to raise £33 million, £9 million of that in a loan - the largest football bond ever issued in sporting history - in which thousands of our fans put in thousands of pounds each at tiny interest rates knowing they wouldn't see the money again for the 20-year length of the loan. All this, in a cost of living crisis, to rebuild our club. A lot of Wimbledon fans DIED before ever seeing their team come back to Plough Lane solely because of your club's existance alone. I work in media and rest assured I will be speaking to my colleagues at ITV to arrange a docudrama on how repulsive MK Dons are and how AFC Wimbledon rose up the leagues from the brink of despair. After the Hillsbrough disaster and the Post Office scandal, I genuinely believe that Pete Winkelman stealing WFC was the third biggest miscarriage of justice in Britain's entire legal history. Rest assured that by the time we get this documentary out, there will be national utter outrage and the whole country will see what your club stole. It's only thanks to a massive effort that had a tiny chance of happening that AFC Wimbledon are back in the EFL and back at Plough Lane. Lives SHATTERED for three decades, homeless. You could NEVER understand what it means in South London, how culturally significant football is in the wellbeing of London citizens and the prevention of knife crime. The Hillsbrough disaster and Post Office scandal are so, so similar to AFC Wimbledon. All those board neetings, fighting tooth and nail for decades for justice. Ivor Heller, who set up AFC Wimbledon, is exactly like Anne Williams, or Alan Bates. Ivor Heller is literally like Matthew in the Bible. He facilitated a ressurection, from the absolute unthinkable brink of despair - WFC, a piece of Britain's cultural heritage, DEAD because of your club. You forced our academy players back onto the South London estates, back into knife crime. You will never understand. You stole a 113-year-old club, an institutiom bringing hope to South London since 1889. AFC, we were told by Parliament that our very existance was "not in the wider interests of football". We went back into Parliament with the organisatiom FairGame - it is thanks to AFC Wimbledon fans that the white paper on ownership is being put through. Thanks to these fans, who ironically had their own club shattered to utter smithereens, no club in the UK will ever again change badge, location, colours or name without majority approval of club fans. In summer 2002, Chelsea had just won the Premier League and AFC Wimbledon had just been set up in the 9th tier. The Dons, even in the 9th tier, had a larger regional charity operation than the reigning Prem champions! AFC Wimbledon have already had preseason tours abroad. Support from the brink of death, from despair, from not existing. We amassed record season ticket sales straight after our first relegation. Over 4,000 fans every other Saturday in the 9th tier and it's more than double that now we're 5 divisions higher and back at home. Thanks to US. And nobody else at all.

@@gabrielpurves7156 tldr :)

​@gabrielpurves7156 bro no one is listening. Got bored after the first sentence

I, too, got bored after four lines. Thank you all for your attention.

You’re getting beat by a franchise! Beat by a fraaaaanchise! Your getting beat by a fraaaanchise

...ok

Likewise

A pretty small club goes from winning the amateur fa cup to the real deal in about a decade, then is forced out of their ground with no certainty about the future of their club and forced into a decade long ground share and you’re surprised they couldn’t sell out Selhurst park? The abysmal running of the club was not the fans faults, Wimbledon may well have died and needed rebuilding no matter what but mk dons taking their place in the league, trying to claim their trophy and still claiming their name so their tosspot owner could sell gigs is a spit in the face. Got nothing against you’re average mk fan, especially not younger fans supporting their local but drop the ‘they abandoned their club’ bollocks. They rebuilt it, now mk should move on and trying to build a new identity with their community at the forefront of decisions made.

@@Lunatwoc you MK Dons to move on but Wimbledon fans need to also MK should drop the Dons part of the name in reality Wimbledon died and AFC and MK are two new clubs and the past should be left in the past

Opposite for me. Never had a good experience at Wimbledon either at Plough Lane or Kingsmeadow. Always found MK Dons to be a much nicer day out.

The FA and the Football League opposed the move - the owners etc would not let up - so it went to an independent commission to decide. AFC Wimbledon was formed before the move went ahead as a protest much like FC United of Manchester - as a result the original Wimbledon was forced into administration and was in serious danger of liquidation so Winkelmann was forced to buy the club to further his ambitions.