the directors suck at telling a good story about creme bule

Creme brûlée is a plothole.

Spoiler: Of course he did

@@raulalvarado3244 yea he's ZEKE

naw the worst part is we only get to see milk time once

I love the second movie but you could literally cut out Gabriella completely and it wouldn't change a thing

The second one is probably my favourite but I gotta agree. It added the least to the overall story. I still enjoyed it the most though

@@aris3054 except for the Troy and Gabriella duets

Yes. But also the sound mixing in the second one was terrible

Oh, absolutely. I adore HSM 2 but it is, in fact, kind of a nothing movie. But it's a...strangely good nothing movie?

dayum

@@matthewbartlett3442 Bad posture?

Ashley Tisdale was so good Disney dropped her.

@@mrcroob8563 When did they drop her, didn’t the Phineas & Ferb movie come out just last year?

@@matthewbartlett3442 do you mean from her pregnancy?

YOU CANT BET ON IT! BET ON IT! BET ON IT! BET ON IT!!

Let’s work it! *aggressively hits pans.*

I'm gonna get slain for this, but I don't like Bet On It and I Don't Dance all that much.......

I don’t dance is literally just sexual tension and we’re all there for it 👏

@@darryl0745 SLAIN!!!!!!! Ok, but in all seriousness, most of us (mainly me) love all High School Musical songs! They’re just so catchy and nostalgic of the late 2000s you can’t help but dance and sing to these songs regardless of what one would think about the movies (I love them)!

I thought that too-

"Sharpay and what's his name"

@@Sabrina-jl4sp you get it, bro, you get it.

@@Sabrina-jl4sp Sharpay and the Gay Disney Prince.

*W H O ?*

That's the basketball coach talking about his star player/son, 11/10

Engineer Gaming

I've seen these movies dozens of times and it is still the best line in the entire franchise. I use it as a reaction line constantly.

It's unironically great

It is the best line, but I think the timing and the way the dad says it makes it an even better line

fuckin saaame

kelsey and ryan were each other's beards and no one can tell me differently

Not straught...maybe bi? Or pan?

@@MaeAlessa the creator confirmed his gay... so yes, he just used Kelsey to cover his gayness

@@MaeAlessa kenny ortega and ryans actor both intended ryan to be gay, so i think kelsi is literally meant to be a beard

Yes because it's a musical about high school, not a high school musical.

This is Twinkle Towne erasure and I will not stand for it. Minnie and Arnold do not deserve this

@@Ignasimp r/woosh

@@Ignasimp Yes, the title is the premise and the genre. It would be like retitling Metal Gear Solid into Tactical Espionage Action or retitling Death Stranding into Strand Type Game.

@@HydraSpectre1138 tbf strand type game is almost the same already

Yeah, 100%

They were eachothers beards XD

I mean Ryan is clearly gay, but Kelsey? Who did she have tension with?

@@heartless2147 The piano lol

Indeed, wlw/mlm solidarity at it's best

gabriella did had vocal training tho she sang in the church also it was a callback in a high school musical there was no need to sharpay to get that stressed just because the director gave another chance to troy and gabriella

@@Leo-ox1rd I recall her being super nervous singing in front of someone. She just seemed like a amateur, at least, in high school musical terms. She auditioned for the lead role but can’t sing in from of one person. That’s strange.

@@Leo-ox1rd Singing in church is not the same as vocal training. For one thing, most church music is written in limited ranges so that the majority of people can sing it. And even if she did more difficult stuff, being part of a church choir isn't the same as being a soloist, as evidenced by her crippling stage fright when put in the spotlight. It's reasonable to think Gabriela might not be ready for a starring role. But Sharpay was being unreasonably territorial for the kind of show it was, like the way she wrote her name across several lines on the sign up sheet.

@@seraphywang4638 many people (including me) find it much harder to perform in front of a small group of people, especially if it's someone you know like a teacher for example

@@seraphywang4638 she was shy, and she broke that barrier during the audition. thats what happened

How old is he?

@@julecharlotte he says it at the very start of the video, 22 years old

23 year old here, SAME lmao

@@takiyeet6946 lmaooo

@@takiyeet6946 I mean if your sister found it out a bit late then she must have ignored the constant child jokes....

If it does come out in 2023, that's going to be the same year I graduate high school

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I’m kind of looking forward to a review of Ice Age A Mammoth Christmas special.

Nah... I'm more excited for "Why High School Musical 3 is the best in the series" coming in 2028

@@cloudshines812 I don’t like that one

He grew into his own person throughout the trilogy and it was glorious

He's also one of the only characters who remembered his growth

Yes, way better than Sharpay, who never changes

@@Naahi95 She becomes nicer towards the final act and then her character resets every movie.

Well, he technically sings, but only 5% of the time or something. He sings the very first verse of "Start of Something New", the small reprise of the former song on Gabriella's balcony, and the first few lines of "Breaking Free". Other than that however, it's sung by Drew Seeley

I wasn’t you could always tell his voice never matched what was being sung. It’s really noticeable

Right they used Drew Seeley's voice

Yea Knowing that honestly makes the first one hard to watch

oh absolutely

beards

👏👏👏👏 you put to words something I couldn't put my finger on

So you're telling me that movie was not just something 8 year old me imagined?

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@@oniisdead2974 stop self promoting

That was actually the only high school musical movie I’ve ever seen lol

He’d hate it so much because it ruins Zeke and Sharpay’s relationship.

Best part of the Troy/Gabrielle Arc

vvsvlogs somebody is up to date with their film theory videos

Agreed

MATPAT WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION

But that’s just a theory

I feel like you watched a certain theory

@@colorcola1464 A Film Theory

That's crazy!!!

Wait that means EVERYTHING IS A SHARK TALE REFERENCE

@Connor Dean But so many things have words so they *must* be A Shark Tale reference

@Connor Dean My whole life is a shark tale reference!

Oh no is shark tale going to be the new jojo

Based

Maybe someday

My favourite... I’m high scone music too

NICK!!!!!!!!! I love u king of nostalgia❤❤❤🔥

give it up Nick, Schaff has the high ground

'CUS I'M EVIL AND BAD TO THE BOOONE! (I love both versions but I think the reprise is more my favorite, also starship is so underrated)

I think i have some problems, 'cause the very same moment i saw the title i started looking for comments about Zefron poster. This exciting new religion Starkids started just won't let me do other stuff.

zeke oniichan

Zeke senpai

Well it's about time someone did. Disney did my man DIRTY

My entire pre-teen years was me simping for Zeke, GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE WITH SOME FUCKING TASTE AROUND HSM SUBJECTS

I simp for Ryan

Lee Brice: Hey, you stole my name!

The song that stuck with me ♥️

I approve of this and I'm proud of it.

amazing.

I remember when my school did that too...

Hey man. Prawn Srars has been making me laugh for almost 7 years. You're like cs188s lil bro

Oof-

I was in high school musical as a middle school musical.

My school production of HSM was cancelled right before tech week from corona. It's a shame, I was cast as Coach Bolton.

I love your profile picture

Was the alternative "A Musical in a Highschool"?

@@kaykutcher2103 "a dramatic production, involving singing and dancing, set within an educational facility"

@@anormalcorpus4804 thanks, the artist is Creampeach, I think you can find them on Twitter

Lol

and a gabriella breakup song !!

@@swirlingsun Say what you want, those were some of the best ones

What was that for him in HSM1? Getcha Head in the Game?

@@mcwyman7928 Yeah, his little interlude, where he sings about how his head's in the game but his heart's in the song

Nothing like troy getting his own way because he's hot and selling out his friends and still being presented as the good guy

that’s how musicals work 😀👍

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Schaff, you have not seen the camp I used to work at’s cafeteria when Country Roads came on.

1000 like

No my school legit broke out into footloose during lunch one day my freshman year

*high school musical: the musical: the series* >As a millennial, I am _triggered..._

@@a-s-greig OH RIGHT SORRY HHRKHKR IT’S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I’VE WATCHED IT

The video game

ITS SO GOOD THO

If you speak Spanish, you know this,but there is another highschool musical movie a Spanish reboot, also by disney channel, instead of basketball they play soccer.

Now that he has officially mentioned Starkid it is only a matter of time before he makes a video on them

Lauren Lopez would be the best Sharpay oml

@@alisonschwab7842 i need that in my life wait--- i can see it perfectly... a starkid high school musical parody with lauren lopez as the main character Sharpie that actually sounds like something they would do

Another WoF fan I see?

Actually Linda Monroe from Black Friday feels more like an adult, mother, Sharpay

_Sameee_

Upside is that Kelsey gets Ryan as a cool theater kid BF.

Yeah :((((

@@a-s-greig misspelled beard :y

Two guys can have great chemistry without them being gay

i love starkid btw i don't know who that is

@@natty486 kzfaq.info

the video was literally just posted, wait a little longer and my fellow starkid stans will flood the comments

@@ariellelyons lmao trust me I believe you

*inhale* HOLY MUSICAL BATMAN

filmed in utah I have been there

That wasn’t Ryan though. I thought so too for years but it’s a completely different guy I’m sure???

@@emperorreign6154 it’s Ryan for sure, he does the number in his normal outfit as well so it’s easy to be confused but he’s definitely the piano player

Yea Ryan is playing in the pool

Right??!! It's Ryan, I can't believe people missed that

Just looked it up, it was a guy called Shawn Carter apparently. Not Ryan, but with the shades on, he looks extremely similar to him.

You forgetting when she betrayed her own brother and lelf him hanging so she could sing with Troy, who by the way she tried to BUY off with expensive things in the hopes that he would break up or cheat on his girlfriend, and at the same time isolating him from his friends and making him feel like shit? And that it's just a couple things from one movie, she did a lot of awful things.

@@Naahi95 I mean Is not Sharpay’s fault that Troy’s “friends” were so jealous about him having some opportunities for his future, Sharpay did him the favor (Troy was good at basketball so it was not like he didn’t deserve it, like his friends made it seems) and she never told him “you have to leave Gabriella and be my boyfriend” she literally just wanted him to sing A SONG with her, Gabriella and his friends were so jealous but so hypocrite at the same time ( In hsm 3 when Gabriella is leaving to go to College Troy never told her to stop or stay there, he was not selfish like her) Gabriella and Chad are toxic friends. And about Ryan, he literally betrayed her at the end of that movie too (when he changes the song) so he is not better than her like you say.

didn't expect to see you here but it's nice to see how it all ties together. do your documentaries take any inspiration from Schaffrillas' style of videos?

Syphon make a collab

Oh hey, didn’t expect you here :D

Shameful

Zyphington

She really is 🤣🤣🤣

or you know.. a more realistic human version..

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Ironically AVPM was heavily inspired by HSM lol

@@4dultw1thj0b it was inspired to the point where a zefron poster was a horcrux.

WITH A MOTHER FUCKING SHARK TALE REFERENCE!

@@ziggy0277 YESSS

@@ziggy0277 I hope to God that it was accidental and not on purpose reference

@@LocalTorchwoodIntern i hope to god it was intentional and not accidental

The 2nd one's title is too long, you may want to shorten it

If you read OP's comment and at first your brain associated a part one titled "phantom x" with JoJos rather than Star wars you are officially a man of culture, take this tophat and monocle

love how you couldn't stick with the naming pattern of one trilogy

@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 I was so confused reading OP's comment since my brain wasn't sure if it was JoJo or Star Wars at first

How about HSM 2: Sharpay Strikes Back

Just really boring, well to me atleast

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I did too lmao

I’m performing as him in less than a month

What a chad!

@@marijamarcelic3149 Nah I was the one playing Chad

@@kalebramirez7327 thanks For funnies

No. The whole trilogy was building up to this point. This is where they collectively peaked.

sometimes i forget ryan isn't canonically gay.

okay so where is this info coming from? I see it all over comment sections but I couldn't find any interviews about that. don't get me wrong I would love it if they wanted to establish them as an item. But The only things I read are Kenny Ortega and Lucas Grabeel confirming ryan was supposed to be gay. And Grabeel said Ryan had a crush on Zeke and he included some glances to show that.

I said it on one comment and I’ll say it again, Christian Karen moms ruined high school musical (or at least two characters from High School Musical)

@@thehalfnegativeoptimist4578 not really

Aww boo

The only time in HSM1 Zeke has a solo: Am I joke to you???

Scream: Allow me to introduce myself...

Those songs are in the top 2 tbh

I don’t dance ringing any bells?!?

We’re all in this together is known by more people I’d say I haven’t watched one high school movie all the way through but I know that song lol

I can see this comment in the Artemis Fowl review where he's gonna say the obligatory line where he says how many requested it

It will be the day that Schaffrillas will have a mental breakdown since the day, The Epic Voice Guy ragequit the Honest Trailer of After Earth.

@@DaSloth you’re right. Nolan could never come close to creating something as artistic and deep as the High School Musical trilogy.

@@DaSloth Nolan could only dream of such amazing visuals in his movies

Thanks for the laugh my guy, that's a gold comment right there

@@DaSloth r/whoosh

Bravo, Nolan

dont make him make a prince of egypt video bc i wnat to make one myself

The Jequel

Nah, I think the fact that he made a Ratatoing video before all those movies is more baffling

@@motomoto4361 You just aren't smart enough to understand the masterpiece that is Ratatoing

@@10Adragon fair enough

I'm a brand new Ryan fan, I want answers too

I’ve watched high school musical 2 at least 10 times and I’ve never noticed it was him until I read your comment, you’ve blown my mind

I actually did! Whenever he was in the pool on the piano he was never with Sharpay and the girls. I kinda connected the dots from there. But I also had the DVD and would watch the bloopers and extras they did. They showed him filming that scene(if I remember correctly).

Don't be ridiculous. Next you're gonna tell me that Clark Kent is actually Superman in disguise.

With beret: Ryan No beret and sunglasses: The Piano Guy (I always thought he was Lucas Grabeel, I used to be soo in love with him lol)

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@@oniisdead2974 um

There's a theory on it

I love her but no lol

I REMEMBER THAT! EPIC!

Yep. Neighbors brought their tv outside and we got to watch while on the trampoline... good times

YESSSS I REMEMBER THAT TV EVENT

I'd forgotten this. We were singing the karaoke and then boom animation renaissance

Did anyone remeber the "Around the World" thing for HSM?

All good songs, but yes. He mentioned Scream, but not Bet On It. ;(

Sorrry, I can't take Bet on it serious anymore. I'm a native Spanish speaker, to me it sounds like Troy is saying "ni pedo" several times, and let me tell you, IT'S HILARIOUS ("ni pedo" is kind of like an idiom that means "no problem" or "don't worry", but is just used in very informal contexts, with friends, for example)

@@anaromeroduran3105 international awkwardness is excused. I'm lucky my country hates dubbing of live action movies. Even The Muppets sounded cringey to me when I heard the Hebrew trailer.

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Thank you for mentioning this.

That sounds like delightful nonsense

@@darkionx oh that is PRECISELY what it is

Unfortunately it's worse than the films

Yes its AWFUL

He showed the choreography for the Carpe Diem song

Shit I loved that bit

Are we the same person?

yesss I agree

PLEASE

I WILL GIVE YOU MY LEFT ARM

PLEASE I NEED HIM TO DO THAT SO BADLY

Or every Starkid song (from full musicals) the way he did for Phineas and Ferb and Steven Universe. Either would be awesome!

I WOULD GIVE MY TIBIA

I remember watching it on that day and I would’ve never guessed it would be one of the best and most memorable shows Disney has put out.

remember when Suite life did high school musical and they literally did the whole "you look nothing like her"

YOURE RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT

Apparently the director and their actors were totally into the idea, and Ryan was meant to be gay from the start. But because of Disney execs and moral panic, Ryan could only be heavily implied as gay, and they gave Chad and Ryan female love interests to emphasize that There Is No Homo In HSM. It was the actors' idea to switch clothes to try to sneak a bit of the original Chad/Ryan idea in.

You could take this a step further and find evidence that Chad may have had a thing for Troy in the first movie too. Which is why his aversion to Troy joining the musical had nothing to do with the singing, but rather it was Gabriella taking Troy away from him.

@@FM-cp6kc Okay but props to them for aggressively hinting at it though, reminds of me of the Stiles situation from teen wolf.

@@thetruth830 what happened??

@@catacc. Basically there was a character in teen wolf who was CLEARLY bisexual- Him liking girls was obvious as he dated and crushed on girls, but as for guys, he openly stared at one of the main guy characters, there was a plotline where virgins were being sacrificed and he was complaining in the boy's locker room that since he was a virgin someone needed to sleep with him and his gay friend, Danny, jokingly volunteered, but instead of getting awkward or mad he actually seemed fully willing and was clearly disappointed when Danny said he was joking. The most obvious point, though, is when he was kissing a girl (whose girlfriend recently died) in a club and he said, “Wait, but I thought you liked girls?” And she said, “I do. Do you?” And he said, “Absolutely.” Then he said, “But you also like guys?” And she said, “Yes. Do you?” And instead of answering he just got this weird kind of “thinking” look on his face, but something came up and we never got an answer. On top of that, the colours for the bisexual flag were literally the colours that were flashing during that scene. He also jokes about kissing guys quite a few times during the series, and overall it’s incredibly clear that he’s bi, but it was never confirmed in or off the show, most likely because the MTV execs didn’t want a main character to be LGBTQ+.

That’s just cuz baseball isn’t that entertaining though

Yes I agree with you but the sports girls at my school scare me. They aren’t mean or anything. They’re just really frightening sometimes.

@@cordeliajackson8615 What do you mean by frightening? Like “tall” frightening?

Lmao no one watches baseball anywhere at any school Also sure jocks aren’t dumb But fuck sports and athletes really are treated so much better than anything else Don’t blame this one on former theater kids lmaoooo

I was a theater kid and a basketball kid. There was definitely more attention given to sports at my school as we were nationally ranked, but I wouldn't say one program was better attended or better funded than the other. Robotics and marching band definitely could have used more attention for all the work they put in.

I legit forgot that movie existed