Guilty Until Proven Innocent | The Scottsboro Boys Cases

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In episode 47 of Supreme Court Briefs, it's the story of the Scottsboro Boys, the nine African American teenage boys who were falsely accused of raping two white women. #supremecourtbriefs #scottsboroboys #apush
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Jackson County, Alabama
March 25, 1931
African American teenage boys get into a fight with six white teenage boys on a freight train they all illegally hitched a ride on. After the fight, the six white males were kicked off the train because they had apparently started it. Well them boys didn’t like that so much, so they went to the sheriff in the nearby town of Paint Rock to say they were assaulted.
The sheriff got together a mob of people and ordered the train stopped and every African American on board arrested. Yep, they really did arrest every African American on that train. Eventually, they were able to narrow down the suspects to nine boys. The nine were Clarence Norris, age 19. Charlie Weems, age 19. Andy Wright, age 19. Haywood Patterson, age 18. Olin Montgomery, age 17. Ozie Powell, age 16. William Roberson, age 16. Eugene Williams, age 13, and Roy Wright, age 12. William could barely walk due to a severe case of syphilis. Andy and Roy were brothers, who had left their homes for the first time ever. Olin couldn’t see and was hoping to get a job to pay for some glasses. And Haywood, Haywood had ridden freight trains for so long that he claimed he could light a cigarette on top of a quickly moving one. Of these 9 boys, only four knew each other before getting arrested together.
While the boys were in custody, two white women who were also on that train, Victoria Price and Ruby Bates, approached authorities and claimed they had been raped by the boys after the white boys had been kicked off. A doctor examined Price and Bates for signs of rape, but did not find any. Historians have speculated that Price and Bates may have have told police they were raped to distract the police from looking at the fact that both had been involved with prostitution in Tennessee.
Regardless, after word got out about those charges, a rather large mob formed outside the jail. Due to the racism of the time and place, the mob automatically thought these black teenage boys were guilty. They demanded the boys be released to be lynched. The authorities did not release the boys. In fact, Sheriff Matt Wann actually stood in front of the jail blocking entrance, saying he would kill the first person to come through the door. The Alabama Army National Guard soon came to protect the jail.
The nine boys were later called the Scottsboro Boys since their case was first heard in nearby Scottsboro, Alabama. From the very beginning, the justice system made it so these boys were guilty until proven innocent. Before the trials, they were not allowed to seek legal counsel or even contact their families. The trials were completed in just four days. Each of those four days, a huge crowd of all spectators booed and hollered. The two lawyers who defended the boys were not given enough time to prepare for the case, and didn’t even give closing arguments. The only evidence considered was the testimony of Victoria Price and Ruby Bates.

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@iammrbeat Жыл бұрын

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@the8thgemmer467 3 жыл бұрын

The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”.

@depressedmidlifecrisistimm3043 3 жыл бұрын

The A, L, A, B, A, M, and A in Alabama stands for Alabama

@josephang9927 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Alabama is far better tham the best "black country" for black people in almost every measure.

@the8thgemmer467 3 жыл бұрын

@@josephang9927 Obviously that’s how the global North/South divide works. That doesn’t mean anything in the context of my comment.

@JerkingLegacy 3 жыл бұрын

@@josephang9927 damn, and the racism still persists. Good job, bud

@BenPernezny 3 жыл бұрын

"But there's no 'E' in Alabohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......"

@SiVlog1989 5 жыл бұрын

I was dumbfounded when I found out about this story. The Supreme Court saying that the boys deserved a fair trail and Alabama did exactly the opposite

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

And time and time again. The fact that Haywood Patterson got an all-white jury THE FOURTH FREAKING TIME HE GOT A TRIAL was shocking.

@ilikedota5 5 жыл бұрын

the saddest part is that if you look at surprisingly modern history, you have stories of African-Americans not getting a fair trial and other mistreatments on a basic level, and then the supreme court ends up having to benchslap the states saying no, 14th amendment anyone? Prime example. Some states had repealed/struck down miscegenation laws that banned interracial marriage, California in 1948, Perez v Sharp, and Ohio repealing in 1887, yet some states like Virginia got benchslapped in Loving vs Virginia. The state didn't come to its senses, no it had to be told to come to their senses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia#/media/File:US_miscegenation.svg

@frankw3213 4 жыл бұрын

Americans don’t like to hear it but : state’s rights baby.

@SiVlog1989 4 жыл бұрын

@@ilikedota5 as Matt mentioned in the episode on Loving vs Virginia about the dramatisation of the story behind that case in the film "Loving," which I have convinced my family to watch

@yuiop6611 3 жыл бұрын

@@frankw3213. You don’t like to hear it but : 6th AMENDMENT BABY!!!

@danieltsiprun8080 5 жыл бұрын

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY is one of the most important foundation in the justice system never forget this.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Preach!

@QuixoteX 5 жыл бұрын

Except for traffic tickets.

@danieltsiprun8080 5 жыл бұрын

@@QuixoteX we can agree on that.

@ilikedota5 5 жыл бұрын

Beccaria is spinning in his grave right now

@countysheepdog55 5 жыл бұрын

*"There is Little To No Justice"* 1. In our justice system 2. Suspects have more rights then victims.

@8sins236 3 жыл бұрын

That fact that George fricking Wallace is the most morally sound person aside from the accused in the story really says something.

@the4tierbridge 3 жыл бұрын

The supreme court too.

@venatortheanimefan4526 2 жыл бұрын

And The cops that stopped them from being lynched

@formerlyknownaseasrob 2 жыл бұрын

And the Communist Party

@Kaddywompous 2 жыл бұрын

To his credit, Wallace sought to atone for his prior evils later in life.

@205rlg6 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaddywompous he still deserved no respect. He shouldn't have been the way he was, it's hard to forgive when it affected a lot of lives back then.

@sedditguy1836 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine the Mental Trauma & PTSD from such events at the early forming age.

@chongjunxiang3002 5 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile the outside people all want to kill them.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Based on my research, the older ones came out better mentally than the younger ones.

@diturner7247 Жыл бұрын

Still doing it. A few comments make me sick. Thank God for my native bloodline as it is a good spirit. No peace in white cultures as even family member are like cheese and chalk. White cult loves to punish me more then the native one. Why is it so? At times I may upset every colour. I was born. I ask God why? It not easy. Press button Murdoch does concern me. Anyway in spite of the odds I am still here. Stay safe and strong.

@diturner7247 Жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat under Trump involuntary confinements are highest in history. Washington DC is treasonous and fraudulent. How can a bankrupted white supremacy cult bring loving peace and recovery for all people. Besides those creeps been having each way bets and funding both sides of war. So who is the enemy? So much unnatural behaviour and toxic mindsets. The release of virus was a step too far and now the whole globe are not going let it to keep on going for another few hundred years.

@generaltom6850 29 күн бұрын

I think PTSD is wrong in this case, it’s specifically trauma that you experience after shocks.

@jayit6851 3 жыл бұрын

Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* You get the picture

@boromirtheblasted883 2 жыл бұрын

BUT MY STATES RIGHTS TO DENY THEM A FAIR TRIAL

@diturner7247 Жыл бұрын

@@boromirtheblasted883 what are you saying?

@mistermiles3271 Жыл бұрын

@@diturner7247 a lot of people will hide behind the phrase "states' rights" when they really want do something unpopular or unfair Example: "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights!" ...but the right they wanted was to keep slaves.

@john2432 Жыл бұрын

@@mistermiles3271Storm Thurmond used those same “state rights” to defend segregation too

@generaltom6850 29 күн бұрын

@@diturner7247 I think he was being sarcastic.

@malphone7940 2 жыл бұрын

It's still just absolutely blows my mind that one of the girls openly admitted and testified in court that she had made up the accusation and that the crime they were accused of didn't even happen, and they still gave them a guilty verdict.

@monsieurdorgat6864 Жыл бұрын

And most women would never admit that. You know what the most common reason for lynching was? Accusations of rape. This shit happened a LOT and usually didn't go well. And to this day, "protecting white femininity from the savages" is a common conservative trope.

@BePatientSeeLove Жыл бұрын

This is America 😞😞😞it's still happening just not as open

@maxflares8888 10 ай бұрын

@medinamiddleschool it is so much more better in the US we have a system to prevent this and fortunately everything ever is recorded by some bystander so it's hard to make stuff up anymore.

@generaltom6850 29 күн бұрын

I think it’s cause she was bought some new clothes by the Communist Party of the USA who also provided the lawyer, which was enough for them (the jury) to dismiss her.

@ShadyLife101 5 жыл бұрын

The state of Alabama ruined the lives of these boys. This video presented the case perfectly, but I'm red from anger after viewing it. I hope that young people of color are inspired by this video to become lawyers so that we can have the representation to fight back a tradition of injustice.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

YES!

@geobeeblaster5602 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is like To Kill a Mockingbird in real life, but with kids and with the same decision being made multiple times. Also, it shocked me that the death penalty was so common in Alabama, that someone NOT getting the death penalty was considered a landmark.

@highgrounder 2 жыл бұрын

@@geobeeblaster5602 It’s a lot easier to send thousands of volts through someone than keep them alive in prison, and also the public was a lot less keen on sparing criminals

@jfacts2113 2 жыл бұрын

No mention of the two rape liars? The type of people the "believe the victim" mob today would blindly support again, no question asked

@JUDALATION Жыл бұрын

lol... America is still ruining black kids lives due to massive income inequality and how resources are divide up... but the USA always has a billion dollars to give to Ukraine or Israel. Blacks should move to better countries because the USA is a lost cause for black people unless you can play sports or the entertainment business.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Five things, eh? 1. I went in deep researching this video, and it easily could have been twice as long. While the story of the Scottsboro Boys is fascinating, tragic and must be remembered, it also got me thinking about all of the victims in similar circumstances who were not remembered simply because the media never paid the same attention. 2. Thanks to my sponsor Ampeduplearning, who are fellow social studies teachers trying to make a living on the side with a wonderful resource. And since we all know how much teachers make, it'd be extra special if you checked out their site. 3. A special shout out to my student in real life John, who restored and colorized old photographs of some of the Scottsboro Boys for this video. 4. This video is demonetized since I talk about rape. 5. My Discord server link: discord.gg/waK44fH

@mathieuleader8601 5 жыл бұрын

the demonetization is sad

@PierreaSweedieCat 5 жыл бұрын

A fantastic video, despite the most unfair demonetization. We still have a ways to go, eh?

@junejohnson2652 5 жыл бұрын

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@stylesva3469 4 жыл бұрын

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@zero-yj6ho 3 жыл бұрын

why should it be remembered?

@mstandish 5 жыл бұрын

It is easy to think of things that happen before you were born as being long in the past. I used to think that Martin Luther King Jr being assassinated was a long time ago when in fact it was only 9 years before I was born. It is possible that some of the jurors involved in these trials or retrials are still alive today (and have hopefully changed for the better). We have come a long way but we are not that far away from crazy ass times like this. I wonder what people 50 years from now will say about us.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

I do moderately worry how people will perceive my videos in 50 years. Then again, that's assuming they're still around. I even cringe when I watch clips of politicians from ten years ago.

@PierreaSweedieCat 5 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Although, as Dr. Tom "Cool" Mccool used to say: "Judge them by their times, their morals, their knowledge, their society, and advancement. And do not repeat their mistakes. Someday, history will judge you. Hope that it is kind." History will likely be kind to Mr Beat. The rest of us? I do not know.

@chrisnemec5644 5 жыл бұрын

The story is really a product of its time, but sadly, some of the attitudes behind it have not gone away. Even worse, there are quite a number of stories of the time that were very similar but never went reported.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, this was one of the few cases the mainstream press actually paid attention to, so that's why we know so much about it!

@FakeSchrodingersCat 2 жыл бұрын

Yes "of the time". These days the arresting officers would have probably just shot them.

@monsieurdorgat6864 Жыл бұрын

Not sure if things have actually changed that much in Alabama 😬 or in general. This story sorta proves that haters gonna hate no matter what the law is. A civil rights amendment isn't gonna stop conservatives from doing this shit.

@trueblade3636 11 ай бұрын

@@monsieurdorgat6864 don't bring up labels such as "conservatives". In that period of time, both Republicans and Democrats were just awful against black people. Democrats even more with their KKK party. Currently, both "conservatives" and "liberals" still can be racists unfortunately

@monsieurdorgat6864 11 ай бұрын

@@trueblade3636 I don't believe in making false equivalences, though. Conservatives is an effective label because they switch political parties. Pre-WW2 Republicans were considerably more tolerant that dixie Democrats of the same era, not that they were "good" by any stretch of the imagination. Obviously, since then the Republicans have taken up the mantle of "KKK Party" with their overt and extreme racism which pales in comparison to modern liberal democrat passice racism. Labels are necessary, even in a world of spectrums where there are always exceptions. Still, conservatives also work quite hard to fit labels since they value conformity, so labeling conservatives is also just more reasonable. It's also worth noting that liberalism IS conservative in America. They are not opposed in their liberal philosophy, only the degree of bigotry they intend to enshrine into law. "Left" is a better label for anti-racist and anti-liberal people.

@ashleighstratmann7783 5 жыл бұрын

i'm a fan of To Kill a Mockingbird, mostly for what it stands against racism. So it was interesting to hear of a case that inspired it.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

I am so glad English teachers force high schoolers to read it every year. :D

@ashleighstratmann7783 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure when exactly I read it, I just know I read it. Plus I always been ahead in my grade. I even read Stephen King's the Stand uncut version back in middle school

@quinm 3 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat yeah I’ve been subbed for a while and got an assignment on this video xd

@circeciernova1712 2 жыл бұрын

I really don't like it honestly, it's a classic white savior narrative and there are better alternatives out there to look at these issues from a middle school or high school perspective.

@ladywaffle2210 2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Read that Freshman year. Excellent book. Depressing as fuck.

@zach7193 5 жыл бұрын

A truly but sad story, indeed Mr. Beat. I have a documentary about the Scottsboro boys from PBS. It remains one of the great injustices in American history. Most of the boys led troubled lives. But Clarence Norris led a good life and was pardoned. Judge Horton was certain that in his belief that the boys did not receive a fair trial, and did not get reelected. It was awfully sad about the boys and their treatment in jail. Leibowitz, the lawyer for the defense, fought like Perry Mason and Clarence Darrow. He wasn't going to back down. Reasons why we have due process under the law. Nice job, Mr. Beat.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yeah I left out mentioning Liebowitz, a Jewish Northerner who also had to be protected during the trials as there were several death threats aimed at him. Thanks for the great comment :D

@zach7193 5 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat you're welcome.

@michaelpalmieri7335 7 ай бұрын

@@iammrbeat It seems the Scottsboro Boys weren't the only ones to be victims of prejudice. It was the same way with their lawyer, Samuel Leibowitz, who, as you pointed out, was a Jew and a Northerner (from New York City, to be precise). During the retrial, Leibowitz was often referred to by the bigoted locals of Alabama (and even by the local press) as "the New York Jew n****r lover." When he called Ruby Bates, one of the alleged "victims," to the witness stand to testify that neither she nor her friend, Victoria Price, had been raped, the prosecutor made much of the fact that Miss Bates was wearing fancy clothes and suggested that she had been bribed by Leibowitz to recant her previous testimony implicating the defendants. As if to make matters worse, the prosecutor, in his closing statement to the jury, told them to show that "Alabama justice can't be bought with Jew money from New York." Not surprisingly, the jury returned a "guilty" verdict and a recommendation for the death penalty. Fortunately, Judge Horton was brave enough to set the jury's decision aside on the grounds that the accused didn't receive a fair trial. A couple of footnotes about Samuel Leibowitz. He was well-known, especially in New York City, as one of the most brilliant lawyers in the United States, specializing in murder cases which often involved notorious gangsters. One of his clients was the infamous Vincent "Mad Dog" Coll, whom he successfully defended when he was accused of accidentally killing a child in an attempt to murder a rival hoodlum. Of all the murder cases he defended, Leibowitz only lost one of them (his client in that case went to the electric chair). In the early 1940s, when Leibowitz ran on the Democratic Party ticket for the seat of a local judge, his Republican Party enemies warned New Yorkers that he would turn every criminal in town loose. But, incredibly enough, just the opposite happened. Leibowitz became known as a "hanging judge" who sentenced more convicted murderers to death than any other judge in the "Big Apple." One of the most noticable cases that came before him was that of Jerry "The Jew" Rosenberg, who, in 1962, was convicted, along with a companion, of killing two undercover policemen during an armed robbery, a crime that they insisted that they didn't commit. The case became notorious because it was the first double cop-killing incident in many years. While awaiting execution, Rosenberg became something of a jailhouse lawyer, and somehow managed to get the death sentences against him and his co-defendant overturned on a legal technicality, and then commuted to life imprisonment. Rosenberg became well-known for representing other prison inmates, including several who were involved in the Attica Prison Riot in 1971, during which he acted as a hostage negotiator. Rosenberg would later write about his experiences in his autobiography, "Doing Life," in which he continued to deny involvement in the death of the two policemen. His book was made into a TV movie with Tony Danza ("Taxi," "Who's The Boss") as Rosenberg, who died in prison many years later. How ironic that Jerry Rosenberg was originally sentenced to death in the electric chair for a crime that he vigorously denied by Judge Samuel Leibowitz, who, as a lawyer, SAVED many defendants from the electric chair, including the Scottsboro Boys, who also just as vigorously denied the rape charges that put them on death row. (They eventually ended up serving long prison sentences.)

@trapicallatino3001 5 жыл бұрын

Man after watching Netflix series “When They See Us” it’s given me a curiosity to look at other cases where people of color have been framed and dehumanized.... thanks for the lesson 👌🏽

@christianweibrecht6555 5 жыл бұрын

this reminds me of the "central park five"

@myisheashears4295 5 жыл бұрын

Christian Weibrecht I’m sure this happened first which is crazy. It’s like Things never change

@joannemercer8457 5 жыл бұрын

Christian, history has a way of repeating itself.

@rp7r54 4 жыл бұрын

Google Central Park 5, Murder on A Sunday Morning, Englewood 4, Dixmoor 5, Jeffrey Mark Deskovic, Ford Heights Four, Groveland Four, The Career Girls Murders, George Whitmore, Jr, Harlem Six, Trenton Six, Brown v. Mississippi, Scottsboro Boys, Duke lacrosse case, Richard Jewell, Michael Crowe, Rolando Cruz, Juan Rivera and Norfolk 4 same story bias, criminal, unethical, lazy, corrupt and incompetent police, prosecutor, judge.

@nenaabdul2220 4 жыл бұрын

Christian Weibrecht ikr

@mjohnson1741 4 жыл бұрын

Not much has changed...

@s9busisee992 4 жыл бұрын

Now hold on a second why are they still accused of rape if the „victim“ testimonied that nobody has been ever raped??? Doesn’t make any sense!!!

@s9busisee992 4 жыл бұрын

This lets me with really a bad mix of sadness and anger... anyway great video to let a concrete footprint in the actual society

@Cuauhtemoc3 4 жыл бұрын

@@s9busisee992 same with me. I get a bit sad but more angry for the many injustices that happened during that time.

@Frankly747 2 жыл бұрын

Because it was never about justice - it was about lynching black people.

@phabiorules 2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, one of the two women still claimed she was raped

@MM-vs2et 2 жыл бұрын

The mindset they had was "they probably did it". They would charge them of every crime under the sun if they could.

@HyperIonMake 2 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of evil in this story, but one of the main evils which a lot of people ignore are the women who lied about being raped. The fact there is basically no punish for that, even if it can be throughly proven to be a lie, is atrocious. If you get definitively caught lying about a major crime then you should get the punishment you tried to inflict on a innocent person.

@poopyjoe7435 2 жыл бұрын

100 years later and there's still no punishment for false rape accusations

@Kaddywompous 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a tricky thing. The last thing I would want to do is disincentivize someone from coming clean about a false accusation they made.

@ThaoNguyen-yb6xq 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaddywompous That is actually a good point to consider.

@MM-vs2et 2 жыл бұрын

What about the system that allows something like this to happen at all? The women with the false accusations were small fry. The unjust, unequal, and racist system that operated on prejudice is the main evil. If the system was just, those women would've been tried and convicted, but they're white, and the accused are black, so they're off the hook. Stop focusing on the insignificant aspects of such direct case.

@water2770 Жыл бұрын

@@ThaoNguyen-yb6xq Not really, I'd rather disincentive the false accusation happening in the first place. You can scrutinize a false story, you can say there isn't enough evidence for a conviction, but an accusation can damage a reputation even if you are found completely innocent.

@jeffreyhebert5604 5 жыл бұрын

That was a bit depressing but informative.. y'all have a great memorial weekend..cheers

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

You too!

@jakethewatersnake 5 жыл бұрын

I live in Jackson County Alabama thank you for this video

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. I was in Huntsville in November and loved it. It's a beautiful part of the country, and things have changed since the 1930s, to say the least. :)

@jakethewatersnake 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Beat yes, we have made great strides at overcoming our past in Alabama. We still have a long way to go. A video on the length of Alabama Constitution might be an interesting video one day

@williamparker7386 9 ай бұрын

I am from Decatur, AL, where the second trial took place, and we were never taught this case in school. Horrifying. Thanks for sharing.

@sedditguy1836 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video. Had it not been for you, I'd never have known. Thank You Mr. Beat!

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :D

@HistoryNerd808 5 жыл бұрын

I'm late to the party but I actually had to do research on this case during my Historical Inquiry class(I'm a History major) my first semester at the college I'm currently at, for a Moot Court thing we did. I'm glad that I got lucky with which side I was given. My group had the defense in this case and the prosecution side against the murderers of Emmitt Till. Both cases just make you sick, we've truly come a long way regarding race relations in this country

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Oh boy, the other side indeed would be difficult

@HistoryNerd808 5 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't them. It both sickens and saddens me that they ruined these boys' lives only because they were black. The fact that there was ever a time where that was considered just by a large population indicates how long 100 years can be in terms of equal rights. Makes me think about what the blind spots we as a society have that 100 years from now, people are going to think, how did they ever think that was okay?

@JUDALATION Жыл бұрын

LOL "wE HAve CoMe A LoNg WaAy" No we HAVENT... America IS STILL TRASH!

@tristenwendling 5 жыл бұрын

Another great deep dive! Good job!

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :D

@dustinfurlong4099 2 жыл бұрын

As someone from Scottsboro I can undoubtedly say that, things haven't changed much.

@jarbear245pops 2 жыл бұрын

Having family in Scottsboro, and spending time there and in North Alabama in general, you're not wrong.

@MM-vs2et 2 жыл бұрын

The sentiments probably haven't, but at least the court systems have

@knowledgetree7134 Жыл бұрын

Are there black people living there currently cuz if so they are dumb! 🤦🏾‍♀️ My thing why do we continue to let it happen?!!! Shouldn’t they be in the very same jail they are trying to throw black people in?

@Compucles 8 ай бұрын

You really still have such rampant racism as to form lynch mobs out there?

@tangledwebb5044 4 жыл бұрын

Alot of info in a short, sweet time. Thank you.

@UGMD 4 жыл бұрын

I feel that this has to be one of the saddest stories of American history that I have heard yet I have a depressing thought that horrible things like this occurred many times.

@abhisheksamanta1 5 жыл бұрын

Wow!! Ironically things are not very different today

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

The justice system is indeed still messed up.

@MateoQuixote 5 жыл бұрын

WOOP WOOP SUPREME COURT BRIEFS IS BAAAAACK WOOP WOOP! (This is excitement is for the new episode of Supreme Court Briefs, not the subject matter which is obviously very sad and upsetting). Can't wait for more!

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Yes I knew what you meant. Glad you like this series. :)

@hyojinlee 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your SCOTUS videos - love them!

@jerrystewart2494 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation Mr. Beat

@howdydoo9148 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Beat, you're channel is freaking awesome. I have some suggestions for your nest supreme court video. you could do: United States v. Nixon Clinton v. Jones Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Planned Parenthood v. Casey Miller v. California Roper v. Simmons New Jersey v. T. L. O. Lee v. Weisman Shelby County v. Holder Hamdan v. Rumsfeld Im sorry for being so demanding but i feel like this series is not only awesome and entertaining but it could introduce a lot of young people to law. all of these cases are vastly different but hold so much relevance and it would mean a lot to see you takes on them

@chrisadams3114 5 жыл бұрын

Wish I could go back into a time machine and kick some ass

@marcel693 3 жыл бұрын

I'll get the DeLorean & shotguns!

@motivationalmadness10 2 жыл бұрын

This wasn't even 100 years ago. I hope that gives us all scope.

@TheFelixpax 5 жыл бұрын

Good video as always!

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@hyojinlee 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video!

@finisherofwar 5 жыл бұрын

Do Dennis vs. United States about US communist witch hunting during the cold war.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

I forgot about that case!

@Zeldarw104 5 жыл бұрын

excellent work.✌🏾💯

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks :D

@bacjam6139 2 жыл бұрын

Despite all the horrible injustice it is comforting to know that there were people who were willing to stand against it, even if it cost them their job.

@rumeru905 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty incredible that George Wallace of all people was the one who pardoned the last boy. Did he have a change of heart?

@the4tierbridge 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he did have a massive change of heart after an assassination attempt was made on him in 1972. He even asked for forgiveness from those he had wronged. Mr. Beat goes into more detail about it in his “ Top 10 Worst American Governors” video.

@waspwrap1235 11 ай бұрын

4:05 considering communists have been historically helpful to marginalized groups, it makes sense

@markhaunert5029 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. New sub, I'm curious on your thoughts on why someone would thumb down a historical video? Am i asking a obvious question? Excellent series.

@guitar0wnz 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@emilandreasson9670 5 жыл бұрын

I have never heard of this but is a intresting story

@homeschoolingmadeeasy7798 2 жыл бұрын

I think I remember reading that the people involved in securing the accused were so proud of themselves for resisting the lynch mob and ensuring legal justice. My favorite thing about your USSC case videos is the visual graphic of how the votes fell. It's super easy to understand and memorable!

@100thedannycash 5 жыл бұрын

Very fascinating and tragic. I would love to see a 12 hour miniseries being made about this story, because it will take a lot more than a 2 hour movie to explain this story.

@seekinggodfirst754 3 жыл бұрын

I knew I should not have watched this video. It makes me incredibly sad the injustices that African-Americans have suffered in the United States.

@starwarzfreak123 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting story 👍

@sergiodavila3290 5 жыл бұрын

Love SC brief videos!

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@daltonlee5269 10 ай бұрын

Having grown up in the Alabama educational system AND having to read To Kill A Mockingbird in high school, it blows my mind that this video was the first time I heard about the book being at least partially based on the Scottsboro boys.

@ectoplasmicentity 3 жыл бұрын

Wow brother I love these videos. Makes me appreciate how far we have come in the judicial system. I also appreciate my fellow Americans fighting for civil rights back in those days.

@pnwvibes_ 4 ай бұрын

Ahhhhhh yes the TKAM book case.

@gabesmith47 Жыл бұрын

The road I take to work everyday runs right along the train tracks this all started on and I’ve lived in the area my whole life. I’ve never once heard of this.

@michaelmatthews1587 2 жыл бұрын

I live in Scottsburo and just discovered this… Yikes! Glad to see things have come a long way since then. Still not perfect sadly, but definitely significant progress.

@rangergxi 3 жыл бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty is sacred. Its a shame that we're rejecting it.

@deadsetanime7102 2 ай бұрын

This case reminds me of the more recent case of the Central Park 5. Some things change, and some things remain the same.

@NicklasZandeVGCP2001 5 жыл бұрын

Will you consider doing a video about forgotten historical figures? Like, I don't know, George Drouillard.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

Sure

@machonsote918 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why some people don't want historical information like this to be in library books.

@kennywright1021 2 жыл бұрын

WOW I lived in Huntsville, Alabama during my high school years. This was a major event in North Alabama/Tennessee Valley. TBH after 8 minutes into this video (which I love History) I feel sick in my stomach from the inhumanity!

@darkchocolate3390 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the judicial system can still back rough on us black folks. We still have problems of less diverse jury pools and selections.

@fatguy9 2 жыл бұрын

Unless youre OJ

@ThaoNguyen-yb6xq 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@iammrbeat Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your support!

@unviversalyhappy 2 жыл бұрын

How?! How???? How do these people just get away with this

@nikashbawa5109 4 жыл бұрын

This whole case is bull crap, those boys were innocent and was found guilty because of racist jury.

@superrknight1858 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention how the girl came out and admited to them lying about rape and the boys were still charge!

@jayfryguy2023 5 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission? Can you deny service to someone that goes against your views?

@philipgagarin6673 5 жыл бұрын

The longest video in Supreme Court Briefs

@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions 5 жыл бұрын

You should do Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections. I see many people think that poll taxes were completely eliminate by the 24th Amendment, but that one only made it unconstitutional for federal elections NOT state and/or local elections. I don't know why it couldn't be done all with one amendment, but oh well!

@JuanSanchez-qt1ue 3 жыл бұрын

Wow just watching this video and seeing how they all met their fate made me shed a tear

@wsurviver8376 Жыл бұрын

Every time I hear a retelling of a historical trial I think “that would make one hell of an ace attorney case”

@rynesanders9 5 жыл бұрын

I'm in tears.

@Mr.Turano 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the demonitization. I always watch commercials to help you guys get your full ad revenue. I hope my words will be enough payment today. Listening to this was equally depressing, even with your cheery demeanor. Hopefully time will see all of our hands clean of our societal failures we have taken part in or have neglected from ignorance.

@joshuavildor2824 3 жыл бұрын

What a tragic story. A system can’t fail you of it was designed to obliterate you.

@89five3five 5 жыл бұрын

How eerily similar this is to the central park five case

@jared1964 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. That was depressing.

@lizrathburn8603 5 жыл бұрын

Wait was it the CPUSA or the International Labor Defence(ILD)?

@de132 11 ай бұрын

"He claimed he could light a cigarette off a quickly moving [train]" That's some action movie nonsense, I love it lmao

@user-sd4nl8vk2z 11 ай бұрын

The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”.. The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”..

@romecottrell4558 2 жыл бұрын

This just shows how injustice in 1931 was practiced in Scottboro, Alabama. That's sad 😔.

@ddll6709 Жыл бұрын

When someone says "Make America Great Again"

@halicusdiaarcan102 2 жыл бұрын

god this gave me horrible shivers. I just---wow. I can't.

@thunderfighs7709 2 жыл бұрын

As someone from North Alabama, this case is surprisingly (or not surprisingly considering it's Alabama) swept under the rug. None of our history books mentioned this case, and I didn't learn about this case until my 11th grade history teacher put on a documentary about it on a random day in class. I've been to Scottsboro many times, and I don't remember there being a single historical marker indicating that this case ever happened there. The only thing I noticed that mentioned the Scottsboro Boys there was a mural of them on the side of a bank in the downtown square.

@sundhaug92 5 жыл бұрын

Few questions: Why did Butler seemingly flip? Why didn't McReynolds vote in the second case?

@Benin780 5 жыл бұрын

How about maria Altman v. The republic of austria pls

@reremoore6029 4 жыл бұрын

I am going through something just like this story right now with my child in Indianapolis Indiana thanks for the history lesson ‼️

@rambles2727 2 жыл бұрын

Any updates?

@susanhernandez Жыл бұрын

10:39 I’m a huge fan. I liked the novel before I learned we had the same birthday (4/28). I was born in the mid 1980s.

@danhandel8256 Жыл бұрын

and today Southern states still are holding inmates without charging them. Thousands have been "accidentally" incarcerated for much longer than their sentences

@indyfan9845 2 жыл бұрын

They wrote a musical about this case. It's called "The Scottsboro Boys," naturally. I haven't ever seen it, but I hear it's pretty good. [Edit: This is why you don't comment before watching till the end.]

@Kylefassbinderful 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in the court of public appeals it's a bit backwards and in some cases you can never prove your innocence.

@visualkeifan2003 5 жыл бұрын

This seems a little similar to Brown v. Mississippi

@alonkatz4633 2 жыл бұрын

And now, with Shinn v. Ramirez, the standard of "guilty until proven innocent" is back.

@thespanishinquisition161 2 жыл бұрын

HOLY SHIT! MR. BEAT!!!!!

@Locojjona 5 жыл бұрын

Hope you are safe from the tornados.

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

I am. One was close to our neighborhood, though. Thanks for thinking about me. :)

@brianwelch1579 11 ай бұрын

And nothing fundamental has changed about the court system since this case.

@Prince-zi3li 4 жыл бұрын

They all got front row in heaven

@0renforge424 5 жыл бұрын

Will you cover Rasul v. Bush?

@iammrbeat 5 жыл бұрын

That's a good one. Thanks for suggesting it.

@hereticleader4187 Жыл бұрын

Great example on why the death penalty should be abolished.

@animatechap5176 3 жыл бұрын

This video makes me so angry

@animatechap5176 3 жыл бұрын

Just cause of the blatant racism and hardship these men went through

@xxbeans93xx76 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@Cytron1515 Жыл бұрын

Feel so sorry for these guys. They were innocent and still got screwed by the legal justice system. What kind of justice system is this?

@Porthos240 3 жыл бұрын

And some people are actually surprised about BLM.

@Ulyssestnt 2 жыл бұрын

"Paint Rock"? did the town contain a Marine Corps camp perchance?

@heikkijhautanen4576 3 жыл бұрын

What a mess!!!