Is 16GB Enough RAM for Gaming in 2024?

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Testing 16GB, 32GB and 64GB of RAM using various combinations of DDR5 sticks to see if 16GB is enough for the average gamer in 2024, and whether there's anything to be gained by upgrading.
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Upgrading RAM is easy to do, and doesn't cost much these days, either. People who need lots of RAM for their work, running a server or playing heavily modded games and memory-hungry simulators know they need 32GB of RAM or more for their special purposes, but how about the rest of us? Is there a benefit to upgrading from 16GB, or should you save your money for a CPU or GPU instead?
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00:00 Is 16GB enough for gaming?
00:31 Sometimes, you just need more RAM
01:13 More RAM = more performance?
01:39 Scan Computers AMD Bundles
02:52 Test platform
03:55 16GB vs 32GB
12:02 "Real World" testing with background apps open
15:20 How about 64GB?
18:20 A Tale of Cities Two
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@Hi_Im_o2 Ай бұрын

Me with 8gb 2666mhz random Chinese ram mmm yes very interesting

@phantom6810 Ай бұрын

same brotha,im eyeing for 32gb ddr4 .and it will be another 4-5 years till i get ddr5 upgrade ;/

@donaldnemesis393 Ай бұрын

Me who using 3x8gb 1600mhz ddr3:

@fajaradi1223 Ай бұрын

Mine won't boot on XMP. So I had to run them @2100.

@kale280 Ай бұрын

I mean the only person holding yourself back is you at this point. 32gb of ram is less than 55 dollars

@Hi_Im_o2 Ай бұрын

@@kale280 it's like 62$ minimum where I'm from and even reaches 100$ I'll upgrade next year since 60$ is a lot for me for just a ram upgrade

@sipofweter Ай бұрын

I’ve been using 16gbs for a while, I only started to have problems with gaming within the last year

@bulutcagdas1071 Ай бұрын

Problems with gaming usually tends to be related to Game Companies screwing over the customers in my case. No matter how much RAM you throw at them it doesn't fix the issue :(

@lancebermejo3319 Ай бұрын

Hogwarts Legacy and The Last of Us Part 1 pretty much started the whole thing

@madelaki Ай бұрын

@@bulutcagdas1071 Yeah like how some games use 14+ GB of VRAM now. Utterly absurd. People complain that nvidia and AMD don't put enough VRAM in their cards, sure I agree with that, now how about asking devs wtf they're doing that makes their games demand 3x as much VRAM as slightly older (but still graphically impressive) games? That's not normal technological progress that's just bad code, sorry not sorry.

@toxictophat4194 Ай бұрын

I have 16GB of ddr5 6000mhz and it doesn't really have any issues but my brother who was using 16gb ddr4 3000mhz and he was having issues and upgraded to 32gb sadly things are getting obsolete again

@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын

Latest big AAA games use just about 5-8GB of RAM. Aside from a single one example - Hogwarts Legacy. This game uses 14-16GB, so it runs fine on a PC with 16GB of RAM only if you use optimised Windows build w/o any unnecessary background apps/processes. All other modern AAA/AA games run perfectly fine. Modern games actually prefer to use more VRAM than RAM. For example HFW needs 10-14GB of VRAM at max settings (depending on the resolution), but utilizes just about 5-7GB of RAM. So you'd better upgrade your GPU, rather than RAM. 16GB of VRAM + 16GB of RAM is a perfect combination for 99% of games, excluding some rare titles that always stay at "Beta" state (Escape from Tarkov, for example).

@Melsharpe95 Ай бұрын

"Is an RTX 4090 and 128gb ram enough for our garbage unoptimized game?"

@elecman748 Ай бұрын

No (Cries in memory leaks)

@agamaz5650 Ай бұрын

I have a work PC with fast 32gb ram yet i game on my miyoo mini plus which has 128 mb, I realised I can play old 90s systems like Sega CD

@Grandmaster-Kush Ай бұрын

UE5 Non shader compilated DX12 titles with spaghetti code and poorly implemented ray tracing: *Screams loudly*

@dohnjoe9211 Ай бұрын

People have lost the plot with modern gaming. Like, you shouldn't need to spend thousands upgrading your PC every year for the privilege of playing an unoptimized dumpster fire. The games are the problem, not the hardware.

@AgentLazarus Ай бұрын

@@Grandmaster-Kush get a life.

@jay-5061 Ай бұрын

By the way Ddr5 8gb sticks have half rhe bandwidth of 16gb because manufacturers disable half the die to make them. This will significantly impact their performance in games, video editing, modelling etc as a consequence more so than simply being less ram

@thomaswest2583 Ай бұрын

I think 16 gb is the minimum. It gets the job done, but more is better.

@ourchicken Ай бұрын

me with 8gb playing doesn't hurt me

@thomaswest2583 Ай бұрын

@ourchicken It's not that it can't work. Just that if you added more ram. Your fps would go up. You can get the job done with less but performance drops.

@rotaxt5411 Ай бұрын

It clearly doesn’t get better if your only concern is gaming. Did you watch the video before commenting?

@pharmdiddy5120 Ай бұрын

Yeah doubling it doesn't really cost that much more. It's crazy

@thomaswest2583 Ай бұрын

@rotaxt5411 Several, actually, you act this is the first time someone has done a video on ram. Hardware unboxed did one not too long ago. Along with other youtuber. The conclusion for most youtubers is that you need more than 16gb

@takehirolol5962 Ай бұрын

Like...download and share more RAM...

@namecannotbeblank8920 Ай бұрын

Keep repeating the joke for another 15 years and it will become funny I promise

@takehirolol5962 Ай бұрын

@@namecannotbeblank8920 The joke must live on.

@alderwield9636 Ай бұрын

@@namecannotbeblank8920 who hurt you mr. lil squeegee?

@suchirghuwalewala Ай бұрын

@@namecannotbeblank8920 It is and always will be funny

@JamesBond77 Ай бұрын

@@namecannotbeblank8920Install a sense of humour for yourself my guy.😬

@WyvernDotRed Ай бұрын

One important note of RAM consumption, which you thankfully tested properly, is that idle RAM consumption of systems with different total amounts is incompatible. This as unused RAM is wasted RAM, so as the system gets used it should cache more if more space is available. If this extra memory gets freed again as another memory intensive app needs it, this is not only more than fine but the best and only sensible approach to memory management. Which is inarguable, unless considering excessive pre-caching or inefficient actual use of RAM, in which case the offending program is at fault, unless it has good reason for the usage.

@elitepauper7400 Ай бұрын

That's why I don't understand people using intelligent standby list cleaner. Windows caching stuff Id a good thing. Especially if you have ram to spare

@Micecheese Ай бұрын

i find all this precaching and always use more ram to completely freeze up the system so i turned it all off, ram if not used is wasted then why does this method make my pc freeze?

@WyvernDotRed Ай бұрын

@@Micecheese because that implementation uses too much resources or is prioritised too highly by the system. Background updates similarly take more resources than they could and bog down the system too much. Neither issues should be the case, but no amount of caching will help with a bad implementation that wastes resources. The implementation I am referring to doesn't pre-cache, but keeps all opened applications and files cached so they load quicker a second time, as long as there is RAM to spare.

@denisruskin348 Ай бұрын

Yes, if you don't have a zillion apps open at the same time.

@Hi_Im_o2 Ай бұрын

Only one game needs above 16gb (24gb (1x8gb 1x16gb)) and that's Hogwarts legacy everything else runs well on 16gigs

@nebsi4202 Ай бұрын

@@Hi_Im_o2 Rust ark Cities Skylines

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Ай бұрын

@@Hi_Im_o2 wrong, microsoft flight simulator needs 18gb

@TheNachtschrei123 Ай бұрын

Anno 1800 Cyberpunk 2077 Total war And there are a lot more games that need more than 16Gb for max settings and all situations

@Hi_Im_o2 Ай бұрын

@@nebsi4202 ok I was quite wrong I only watched the hwu video but most strategy games and rt games

@olnnn Ай бұрын

If you have a gpu with less vram the vram can spill over into system ram in some cases which may also have an impact in some cases.

@moxe6841 Ай бұрын

if you have a vram bottleneck i think upgrading ram, is the least of your priorities @olnnn

@donaldnemesis393 Ай бұрын

This is where ram overclocking really comes handy, thought it's dosen't make any sense to upgrade your ram instead of getting gpu with more vram

@Psyden5757 Ай бұрын

When it comes to that you lower graphics settings or get a higher vram GPU

@donaldnemesis393 Ай бұрын

@@Psyden5757 thistbh

@LukeTheJoker Ай бұрын

That One Million resident city is renowned for barely running on anything.

@mttrashcan-bg1ro Ай бұрын

The CPU usage is 80% and above, that's insane for a 7900X3D. I didn't think that game could use that much of a 24 thread CPU

@0Harriz0 Ай бұрын

Just upgraded to 32gb ram. i can finally run 2 tabs in chrome

@protocetid Ай бұрын

Wait until Google makes ad blocking impossible on Chrome and then you’ll need another 8GB of RAM, that’s why I’m pro Firefox. Almost every other browser uses the Chromium engine so they’re not real options.

@Playingwith3D Ай бұрын

lol

@legend131000 Ай бұрын

As somebody with 64gb, I can cofirm that running 3 tabs in chrome is also possible.

@kefler187 Ай бұрын

@@legend131000 As somebody with 128gb, I can confirm that running 6 tabs in chrome is barely possible.

@deathdrop Ай бұрын

@@kefler187really? I have 128GB and i can barely do 5 tabs did you do something different than me?

@bluemarble4051 Ай бұрын

Love this kind of benchmarks. thanks for high quality content!

@Frightenerd Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, it answers a lot of questions about ram capacity and dual stick usage

@baronvonslambert Ай бұрын

While 32 is preferable mostly for multitasking while gaming, 16 is plenty for 99.9% of titles at typical resolutions provided you're not streaming, or chatting and browsing the web while you're at it. A lot of people's RAM problem isn't quantity but a bandwidth limitation. There are a plethora of people running a single 16gb stick of RAM in single channel or 2x8gb sets in the wrong slots limiting them to single channel. This chokes any PC but it cripples Ryzen CPUs(15-30% lower fps). Like you mentioned a lot of people also have a tendency to run a lot of background programs and processes that eat up their RAM, Windows is pretty good at memory prioritization but it's a far cry from perfect at it. Also you'd be surprised at the amount of people who do not have XMP enabled and are running their RAM well below it's maximum speed. I run 4x8gb cl17 3600 single rank sticks in dual channel myself, and even with Windows and background programs eating up only very rarely do I exceed 16GB while gaming, the few times I do exceed 16GB it is because of my GPU having SAM/ReBAR enabled or I'm playing sim heavy and the absolute latest titles at as high of settings and framerates as I can. Most games are designed for the consoles first, so when consoles start shipping with 32GB, only then should 32GB be considered as the new minimum. Edited for grammar, punctuation, as well as to clarify and expand on a few things.

@sihamhamda47 Ай бұрын

16GB is enough for just general tasks and casual gaming without multitasking 32GB or higher is recommended for all rounders including programmers and content creators, because compiling and editing can eat up so much RAM (especially if you make a project with so many streams at once)

@selohcin Ай бұрын

DDR5 is dual-channel on a single stick, though, as long as the stick is 16GB or larger.

@marcelhaase8416 Ай бұрын

@@selohcinthis is not how dual channel works haha

@magichatake Ай бұрын

@@selohcinno way mate 😂

@selohcin Ай бұрын

@@marcelhaase8416 It really is, and the fact that you're contradicting me is proof that you have not studied the changes made from DDR4 to DDR5.

@expert8837 Ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. I was thinking about change my modules :D

@Lord_Drizzle Ай бұрын

Oh baby, look at that sponsor!

@iitzfizz Ай бұрын

That's the big boys!

@R0B0boy Ай бұрын

Love the content, I hope you're not getting burnt out and overworked doing all these videos! 6:18 shows Last of Us instead of Allen Wake 2.

@Ryhon Ай бұрын

I'd like to see a comparison on VRAM heavy games. I've heard that in some extreme cases like Tarkov on the Streets of Tarkov map having 64GB of RAM is basically required if you wish to play with high textures

@cleengreeny Ай бұрын

I’m rocking 4x8gb sticks running at 3200MT/s, a 7700K running at 5GHz, and a Z270 motherboard with a modded bios to support Resizable bar, and coffee lake cpus. I got rebar working so that I could use an arc card.

@thomaslayman9487 Ай бұрын

that's incredibly based on multiple levels

@cleengreeny Ай бұрын

@@thomaslayman9487 And the best part is I just ordered an open box A750 for $130 through offerup. It should get here tomorrow.

@titanuranus2136 Ай бұрын

I bought 2x8GB 3200Mhz CL16 for £115 in 2017, last month I bought another 2x8GB to go with it for £29. I wouldn't suggest getting 2x8GB DDR5 in 2024, 2x16GB costs less than double, for double the RAM. If you buy good speed 2x16GB RAM now such as 6000Mhz CL30 or CL32, then it may last you until DDR6 is released, if you buy another identical 2x16GB in future for cheap to go with it, if you have a 4x RAM slot motherboard. AM5 support for 4x Sticks is a bit bad at the moment, but should improve with future AM5 CPUs. For example my Ryzen 1600 could only run 2x8GB 3200Mhz at 2666Mhz, but Ryzen 3600 and 5800X3D can run 4x8GB at 3200Mhz in the same motherboard. The memory controller is on the CPU, so when you upgrade the CPU you also upgrade the memory controller, Ryzen 9000 looks promising in this regard, Great video by the way, thanks.

@CallMeAK Ай бұрын

love your vids m8

@macrux152__8 Ай бұрын

Loving your new benchmark build. Wishing you gave more vds on the Xeons. The e5-16** series is interesting for me cause I plan on getting one.

@NomadCanid Ай бұрын

will say, since I didn't see it come up in the testing, having at least 32GB of ram is HUGE for performance in Tarkov, upgraded from 16GB recently and I can run the streets map comfortably now, and the game stutters less in general, especially when I have a map and discord call sharing in the RAM with the game otherwise, I had been comfortable at 16, but I like having the extra headroom since I like using clipping software and hanging out in Discord while playing most games

@WyvernDotRed Ай бұрын

One danger of buying the second stick separately is that it might contain different memory chips, which might not reach a high clock when put together. With quantity of RAM, as long as you have enough the performance will be near perfect. But once you run out the performance completely tanks, if the system continues to function at all that is. Frequency and especially latency (actual number to compare by is latency divided by latency) is what matters most otherwise.

@LeonAlkoholik67 Ай бұрын

If you heavily debloat the OS, the 16GB is mostly manageable. On top of that the OS uses memory compression and paging (SSD helps a lot there), and if the GPU has enough VRAM (so that textures doesn't go into RAM), then most games should be doing okay

@syedsakifrahman3021 Ай бұрын

How would you recommend debloating to get that kind of result?

@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын

@@syedsakifrahman3021I am using a separate OS for gaming, installed on a separate SSD. There are a lot of "optimized (custom) Windows builds", like Tiny 11. The creators of these builds remove all unnecessary apps and processes (including auto updates, etc.). So such a Windows build does literally nothing while you are gaming. Thus it uses just about 1,5-2GB of RAM for it's own needs. And games can use up to 14,5GB of RAM, if they need to. It is plenty for 99% of games.

@m8x425 Ай бұрын

@@syedsakifrahman3021 I installed the Windows N version then downloaded anything I needed.

@Tristtix Ай бұрын

Thank you for this

@galmud1508 Ай бұрын

Weird how long 16 GB of RAM have been enough for gaming. It's been like 10-ish years or so of 2x8 GB being the minimum standard for any gaming PC. I guess Windows memory management has gotten really optimized.

@Flyon86 Ай бұрын

If you have a laptop or a pre-built with tons of bloatware 16 gb isn't enough lol.

@takuma7812 Ай бұрын

Nah, 10ish years ago 8GB was still recommended and 16GB was considered a bit overkill. I clearly remember those conversations when I was researching what to get for my 2013 build. Tho at that time we were seeing the same transition with 8GB vs 16GB as we are seeing today with 16GB vs 32GB. So there were a few people saying that it might be wise to get the bigger amount if more and more games took advantage of it.

@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын

@@takuma7812Nowadays most games tend to use more VRAM. Thus VRAM capacity became more important than RAM capacity for gaming. A few years ago most games needed 6-8GB of RAM and 6-8GB of VRAM. In 2024 VRAM requirements increased by quite a bit, while RAM requirements barely increased. Lately I usually see that games utilize just about 5-8GB of RAM. Recently I played A Plague Tale 2, Horizon FW, Ratchet & Clank RA and Banishers GoNE. These 4 games never used more 8GB of RAM. While some of then utilized up to 11GB of VRAM (at 1440p/maxed out).

@weriesblack1375 Ай бұрын

I have 8gb ram have had it for 7 years i only this week got another 8gb stick to add to my pc now it will last another 7 years 😂

@galmud1508 Ай бұрын

@@takuma7812 Hmm yeah maybe I'm misremembering a bit then. I've had 2x8GB in my rig since 2014. Still seems like a fairly long time for RAM requirements. IIRC RAM requirements used to increase more rapidly back in the 90s and 00s. But maybe that's because as stangamer says, games mostly need more VRAM these days than they used to.

@mttrashcan-bg1ro Ай бұрын

I recently upgraded my 5900X to a 7800X3D and ended up putting 2x48gb of 6400MHz CL32 with it. I'm surprised by how little some games actually use still, but shocked as to how much Windows will use if you have more, on average I have 16-22gb total system usage with any modern game open, some games are so light on Ram that it doesn't get that high, without anything open I have 9gb for all the background processes Windows has going. I would have been fine on 32gb still, but I had 64gb for a while until my motherboard/CPU started rejecting the extra two sticks. I just feel better with more, knowing games with mods or memory leaks won't affect me, and Windows and any apps can use as much as they want without it ever affecting how I use my PC. Tech Deals once said, "do you want your PC to work for you, or do you want to work for your PC?"

@n0.nam358 Ай бұрын

Good quality video as usual! 👍 Hope that DDR5 ram will be even more cheaper closer to Autumn...

@shiftctrlhack Ай бұрын

Great vid Iceberg Tech !! What program are you using for audio? You have one of the best moc quality compared to many other YTbers.

@arnietech208 Ай бұрын

It would be awesome to see the impact of ram capacity between DDR3,4 and 5 because of the nature of latency and frequency

@rutgerwillard5011 Ай бұрын

I would be interested in a benchmark of balders gate 3 running with HDD mode enabled, as I believe it would store more of the data to ram to work around the slower HDD.

@mattymoyouknow202 Ай бұрын

I noticed a big difference in stuttering going from 16gb to 32gb, especially in Callisto Protocol. With 16gb it was using 10gb with occasional stutters. With 32gb it was using 13gb and zero stutters at all.

@magichatake Ай бұрын

I'm felling some stuttering too mate. Is your gpu AMD or NVIDIA?

@nonaurbizniz7440 Ай бұрын

I picked up a 64gb kit because at the time it was only a few dollars more than the same rated 32gb kit. So no worries for me on ram probably for longer than the pc is usable.

@stefannilsson2406 Ай бұрын

I am surprised by the performance of the single stick vs 2 sticks. The single stick performed better than I thought it would. Now I wonder if having quad channel memory on either AMD or Intels HEDT platforms makes a difference.

@Micecheese Ай бұрын

having 128gb octa channel ram at only 1333mhz felt just immaculate for system responsiveness on a server tower pc, but don't expect it to load games fast as the og asus ally extreme

@stefannilsson2406 Ай бұрын

@@Micecheese What platform supported 8 channel memory on ddr3?

@alexfrideres1198 Ай бұрын

“James Cameron’s, the blue man group”

@zsideswapper6718 Ай бұрын

LMAOOO

@bumbaclot813 Ай бұрын

Yeah the game is pretty but it sucks. Story is horrible, dialog is horrible, no character is memorable it just sucks.

@bozzycreations477 Ай бұрын

Long time viewer, first-time commenter here. In the efforts of transparency, I want to point out that the neglible performance increases in some titles could also be due to the decreased latency from the 2x8gb SKHynix kit to the Corsair Vengeance 2x16gb kit and not just the increased capacity. CAS latency and memory rank configuration can have a huge impact on performance.

@xil714 Ай бұрын

pretty much the reason to upgrade from 16 to 32 is depends on how much is background or applications on 2nd or 3rd screen is taking

@snakeplissken1754 Ай бұрын

19:40 In my experience if a game takes up more then 16gig as a whole it usually runs bad as the engine chokes on itself, you can add more ram but the underlying issue isn´t solved so the fps won´t really improve. At a certain point in these builder/sandbox games do you run the engine against a wall, nothing you can really do about that.

@LiquidSnake690 Ай бұрын

I also have an RX 7900 XT except mine is the XFX Speedster MERC 310 RX 7900 XT paired with an i9 10900KF and 64GB DDR4-3200mhz ram. I would also love to see you test dual channel vs quad channel ram to see if there is any performance differences.

@lashyndragon Ай бұрын

I had 16gb. Dropped in 16 more, and it's probably come in handy for streaming, but I haven't noticed a big difference otherwise. When I made the upgrade I was just looking to "future proof" but that can be a fool's errand. We'll see how it is in a couple years, but by that time I'll probably be building a new system with 64gb, so ehhh

@dianaalyssa8726 Ай бұрын

Am on 48gb but I have a lot of kits around with less. I remember swapping a 6gb one, that was a good idea. A lot of DDR3 kits were swapped for 16gb. DDR4 kits have 16 and 32. DDR5 is when I went for 32-48gb kits.

@andreiisidorvornicu1027 Ай бұрын

I upgraded from 16gb to 32gb because of Forza horizon 5. While I was playing it started to statter and a warning of low ram popped up. Right there I ordered a 32gb kit and installed the day after. Since then I've always went for 32gb in my other systems

@lamhkak47 Ай бұрын

Also, eventually compare X3D and non-X3d and RAM's speed, timing, capacity effects on them?

@rickymorales88 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this video! If it’s ok with you I would like to reference this video when people ask about memory on mine.

@IcebergTech Ай бұрын

Sure

@seresrobertwoodoo2451 Ай бұрын

Good job on the sponsors instead of the GB numbers, wonder how much difference there is between something like 16gb of ddr 3 1800 - ddr4 3200 - ddr5 5600 while the cpu itself could be a huge difference (4th gen i7 vs 12th gen i3 is about the closest we could get) it would be pretty fun how much ram speeds and latencies make in gaming instead of just sheer gigabyte numbers

@sir.fender6034 Ай бұрын

Good video. I play a lot of Beam NG Drive multiplayer mod and it can use up to 28 GB's system memory.

@juanford55 Ай бұрын

And me closing programs to gain game performance when i had 16GB of RAM, just to see now that isnt that big of an issue 😅.

@SpreadTheLoveNotSTDs Ай бұрын

Testing flight sim in Manhattan THAT CLOSE to the World Trade Center was pretty bold of you 😂😂😂

@peyton_uwu Күн бұрын

More memory means less garbage collection/reliance on the page file, which means less overhead. It makes sense that having more RAM smooths things out.

@renan6509 Ай бұрын

You could software limite the amount of ram using msconfig, keeping the speed for both tests, 16 and 32 gb

@Goodmanperson55 Ай бұрын

This might seem a bit counterintuitive but the way I would it, if I know for a fact that I am required to rely on integrated graphics, I would be getting a 32 GB kit and set the UMA buffer to a number that most games would expect as vram to avoid any potential problems. If I do have a GPU, I can cut back on the system RAM since the GPU has its own vRAM to use anyways. This works most of the time because getting more RAM is far cheaper than having to get a GPU.

@TetherOnline Ай бұрын

I'm super curious. How long did it take you to film, test and edit this entire video?

@tristanweide Ай бұрын

Are these sticks single or dual rank? Some of the performance difference between the 2x8 and 2x16 might be due to ranks and not capacity. Was this accounted for?

@m8x425 Ай бұрын

an important question

@armedhyde1448 Ай бұрын

Would love to see this kind of testing but at 4K.

@moist_ointment Ай бұрын

Just a note about City Skylines 2: a 1 million population city is HUGE and takes a ton of time to ever get to that point. I've been playing the series for years and have never had a city get that big. The game actually simulates every citizen individually. They have names, relationships, addresses, daily routines, work places, etc.

@Vorsm Ай бұрын

How different are the results with Intel though that's what I'm curious about.

@squirrelm3195 3 күн бұрын

Tarkov Streets would’ve loved this test I couldn’t even load in until I went from 16GB to 32GB (DDR4 for both, 32GB had higher clock speeds though)

@theorphanobliterator Ай бұрын

i play quite large modpacks in minecraft, and i've started to see my 16gb get really close to being maxed out, yesterday i had 15.8gb usage

@dragos2010full1 Ай бұрын

the problem is that you did test with ddr5 ram which from what i know works diff than ddr3 and 4 where in ddr5 1 stick can act as 2 using more data buses at once like 2 sticks should

@9-ac-7 Ай бұрын

It would be fun to see you trying to upgrade an old laptop

@IcebergTech Ай бұрын

Never had much luck with laptop videos. Maybe one day?

@viera2994 Ай бұрын

did u set all games to use only the 3d v-cache cores ?

@Jvwtt 23 күн бұрын

I'm definitely having issues in assassin's Creed mirage too... My Intel card is less stuttery that my 7900xt

@lawgamingtv9627 Ай бұрын

me looking at my ram usage in rivatuner overlay in minecraft seeing it approaching 50+gb💀

@estacaotech Ай бұрын

Please do this test with GPUs without enough ram like 8GB or 12GB to see if 32GB helps when vram is not enough, this would be great too.

@theyoungjawn Ай бұрын

Alan Wake II chart is mistitled as Last of Us. Great video either way, Iceberg!

@hasan-hr5kl Ай бұрын

I think you should have tried these tests with a more modest cpu . I think there were will see the big differences

@alphapcyu Ай бұрын

Can I suggest you test 48GB (2x24) next ?

@wagman23 28 күн бұрын

i got round about 5FPS more in games. at that time i played cod warzone and it ran smooth like an offline game after that, FPS in tne seventies. x79 1600MHz quad-channel

@eberwolf24 Ай бұрын

What about 2 8gb sticks (16gb) vs 4 8gb sticks (32gb)? Is there a difference or better performance dual channel vs quad? All comparisons are between two 8gb or two 16gb but what about four sticks? Will it improve it even more compared to two sticks of ram?

@natatatronnr1574 Ай бұрын

for me i never noticed a diffent in gaming since i upgraded from 2x8 to 4x8 and i dont know if there is a big diffence for me while editing with davince resolve 18 i would like to see a compairesin in davince with 16 , 32 and 64 gb pc Specs : ryzen 7 5700x 32gb ddr 4 3000mhz rx 6900xt

@vihapiirakka69 Ай бұрын

I ran into a memory bottleneck while playing shadow of the erdtree with discord and one chrome tab open. 16gb here, it was 100% utilized and my windows started lagging

@silver1407 Ай бұрын

16gb wasnt enough for me on a P55 chipset system in 2019 playing mw2019 and BL3, idk how you guys are still managing

@Sveevo Ай бұрын

Would be awesome if you could make a vid about ram speed i currently have 2x 16gb with 2666mhz and i wonder how much faster 2x 16gb with 3600mhz would be

@shr725 6 күн бұрын

How long 32gb will be ok? Should i buy a labtop upgradable to 64 now?

@ethangoldwyre Ай бұрын

One thing that turned out to really matter for me is VRAM, the 6gb with the 3060 mobile really struggles with anything more than a game and a browser open

@crackny4n Ай бұрын

I just got a ryzen 5 2600x, an asrock b450 matx board and 8 gigs of ram for around $50-$60 (not sure about the current forint exchange rate). I'm going to upgrade it to 32gb of ram, which I'm pretty sure should be enough for now, but i'm going to watch the video anyways.

@KomradeMikhail Ай бұрын

I don't even pay attention lately to how much RAM is enough... I game on a Workstation with 128 GB... on Linux. With used server ECC DDR4 only running about a dollar per GB, I am thinking about doubling up.

@jorge69696 Ай бұрын

"My name isn't really Iceberg"... I knew it.

@Puwpl Ай бұрын

has to be because my kingston memory that I just bought decided that only 1 one of the modules is enough!

@himekomurata72 Ай бұрын

Ram is basically just for stability in games. It's a different story on productivity. Also on igpu users, always get two rams

@Theleochan Ай бұрын

for flight simulator, the stock A320 is not very realistic making it very light on ram. You should try the A310 which is free on the sim's marketplace or the Fenix A320 which is a true to life airliner reproduction. My Ryzen 9 7900X, 32gig@6000MHz (2x16gig) and RX 6950XT runs it at arround 45fps on ground in a small airport and 30fps in Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport. .

@shihabalmamari3820 12 күн бұрын

How about performing 32 GB (4×8)?

@ray-zin Ай бұрын

First time seeing Alan Wake 2 run properly in a while on this channel.

@unfortunately_alex Ай бұрын

I would love to see this test on an 8GB GPU, thats when ram usage gets interesting

@MysticalGesture Ай бұрын

Using a Lenovo L340 I am forced to single channel ram but I got 16 gb of it in a 2666 mhz stick. Gameplay not affected as far as I can tell.

@indrahaseo Ай бұрын

32GB has become minimum RAM for latest gaming in 2024 as AAA games in the future

@TOml0l3times Ай бұрын

you put the test name for Alan Wake 2 as The Last of Us just pointing it out

@TheBcoolGuy Ай бұрын

this is insane

@Nelevita Ай бұрын

Youre Video ist valid but for RAM there ist more linke : singel Rank, Dual Rank and how many Bit wide are there. For that it ist more complicated that "i have that amount of Ram"

@fajaradi1223 Ай бұрын

Naaah ... I don't even know which rank my RAM is.

@giuseppenaylor Ай бұрын

This is hugely different than DDR4 when it comes to single stick vs two. DDR5 has built in dual channel (basically).

@justinpatterson5291 Ай бұрын

If not for one game I was interested in recommending 16 as base and 32 for best results. I'd still be on 16. Grabbed a 32GB kit of 3600, CL15 memory. Along with the 5800X3D and the 7900XT. I've yet to reach the limits of the systems capabilities. It eats everything I throw at it, like nothing.

@appleapple3855 Ай бұрын

The shocker to me is that his name isn't actually Iceberg. I'm crushed!

@adaa12345SixSevenEightNine Ай бұрын

Star Citizen got me to upgrade to 32GBs. It was the only way to solve the stutters, I even tried to allocate some of my NVME to virtual memory and it still didn't cut it 😂

@andyshtroymish4997 Ай бұрын

The real problem with cheaping out on a single stick is "unpaired" second stick later on. So, there should be a tes with mismatched "pair" in the sake of realistic-ness(horlw tf you say it?)

@pharmdiddy5120 Ай бұрын

I think DDR4 is going to be a lot different too because apparently ddr5 runs in dual rank even with one stick? Correct me if I'm wrong here

@CrashD6 Ай бұрын

If you want to run a bunch of apps in the background, it's always more taxing on the CPU, so instead of upgrading RAM, invest the money on a CPU you are sure can run games and lots of apps at the same time

@coreylineberry8557 Ай бұрын

Has to be, because that's all I've got.

@zachsilby4569 Ай бұрын

Now I'm curious about 4 x 8gb sticks

@gettoecoding1058 Ай бұрын

I reckon 32gb is the sweet spot, 16gb and lower is the sweat spot, as you may start sweating when you see your ram usage. I guess it all comes down to what you using your pc for. But for AAA gaming minimum, The sweat minimum SPOT 16GBs... dual channel yalllll