ICF Construction : It's NOT Just for Basements

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6 жыл бұрын

Tons of people love the comfort of an ICF basement, but you don't have to stop there. We are here to show you how easy it is to take it to the roof. Insulated Concrete Forms are easy to install and easy to engineer or design to any building or structure. In this video we are building a custom ICF house to the rafter's but it's uses are far greater than this. More and more architects and engineers are implementing this type of construction for schools and office buildings. All can benefit from this construction system... and no other system is as complete as ICF.
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@pack_9mm 6 жыл бұрын

We are going all the up with our ICF house. 👍🏽

@offgridpirates7400 6 жыл бұрын

Were using IFC to SIP's ...loving it...

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

You use both systems together? As in a SIPs roof on ICF wall?

@peterbeyer5755 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for posting, I'm getting approval for my house in Melbourne, Australia, it still a very rare way to build. I'm in a very high termite area, also an extreme bush fire hazard area, I am going to use insulated panel (Bondor solar span roof) so that there will be almost nothing to burn.

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you are thinking outside the box!

@rezzey 5 жыл бұрын

How did you go peter? Started your build yet? I am working on 4 units in Parkville and would pick your brains

@mikestronach4762 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job. I have been preaching the ICF advantage a long time.

@ChrisElmhorst 5 жыл бұрын

The perfect video I've been looking for. No one goes all the way to the roof... Now next, Do an ICF pitched roof!!!

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

I know a guy who is working on the pitched roof. And he’s crazy smart but there’s still issues.

@connecticut730 4 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode kody, can you please elaborate.. I am planning to build icf here in a high fire zone in California. My plan is to do complete icf using the roof forms from a company like quad deck, lite form or build block. My roof is going to be "flat" pitched. There isn't a lot of videos on the pre formed roof system. Please share your feedback on what you are seeing. The other technology that looks interesting is USG concrete roof panels.

@rhett7337 5 жыл бұрын

Let's do the main floor and roof as well. Most ICF manufacturers also make a concrete deck system.

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

That’s true!

@majtaylor9694 4 жыл бұрын

Can you share more on how you sealed the ceiling for the air tightness?

@harperfw 4 жыл бұрын

Great series of videos. Well done, informative and enjoyable to watch. Just a quick question. My apologies if I overlooked the episode that addressed this issue. Planning to do a custom ICF home build in Idaho. Zeroing in on our floor plan of choice. Want to do the exterior walls in all ICF just like you suggest. House design includes a walkout basement, first and second floors, ICF with 8-inch concrete core, etc. My question relates to the second floor exterior walls which have architectural design setbacks. As is typical, the second floor (three bedrooms, two bathrooms, etc.) has a smaller footprint than the first floor and basement which obviously have the same footprint as they are directly supported by the footers and ICF walls to the top (ceiling level) of the first floor. How are second floor architectural setbacks accomplished by using your ICF system, all the way to the roof, without having "institutional/commercial looking, straight-faced, 30 foot, ground to roof walls?

@RJM1011 4 жыл бұрын

Will those type of fixings work for the OSB type of floor joist ?? Thank you for the video.

@stephentaylor9366 4 жыл бұрын

If you place your floor joist hangers in the walls at the desired height, then simply run a 2X8 up under each joist hanger as a brace, you can place your floor system in the house. Then, you can place plywood on your joists and walk around and pour your walls without having to brace them at all. The floor system will assure the dimensions and squareness of your house and walls. Also, you may want to set the first course of block in the wet footer. This locks it in place, and eliminates the need to glue or run runners to keep it in place while you pour. I have built about 100 of these basements this way. We pour the concrete basement floor with tie-ins or grade beams attaching the footer to the floor before stacking the block. My personal home went all the way to the roof with the block. I used FOX BLOCK for all the construction. We had 3280 sq. ft. 12’ and 14’ ceilings, with one 3 1/2 ton AC/Heat Pump combo. The entire house was electric, so we heated and cooled with electric. We also had 2 vent-free fireplaces ( using $15-30 dollars annually). Our average utility bill was $72.00 per month. This includes well pump, forced main sewer pumps, and sprinkler systems. No dust, no noise! You have to experience living in one before you can believe how comfortable they are. Imagine a house where every room is the same temperature. Fantastic!

@hameedtalebi2351 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe u can explain it in a video.

@yourswagness7473 6 жыл бұрын

What if you used steel framing instead of wood, wouldn't the house be more secure

@ph8823 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Kody Since i watched your video on two storey icf thats all i can picture now. I am looking into building my own ICF home. I want two floors above grade but i basically have to have an 8 or 9 foot basement. That said i wanted to go two floors above grade with concrete floors. Do you feel this is something i can accomplish with ICF and if so do you know of an architect who can accommodate a building plan for me? I have a basic plan that would need to be remade with icf in mind. Im in eastern Canada. Where are you located?

@jonathanmilton9753 3 жыл бұрын

Can you insulate under and up the side and on the top of the footings on a icf basement?

@danmurphy8732 5 жыл бұрын

What kind of R-value once poured? I'm interested for our next house. Any installers recommended in southern Ontario. For a full house. Basement/main floor/second floor. I need pricing.!

@yourswagness7473 6 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of gigacrete? What do you think of it?

@annaschmanna1 4 жыл бұрын

HI Kody, We are unable to find out how to get Lavann Hangers. Can you assist? Best Regards, Anna

@hameedtalebi2351 3 жыл бұрын

A big disadvantage of steel joist is the thermal bridge, it seems with ICF, it will be great to use steel joist. Right?

@rsxtypeo 6 жыл бұрын

Kody, I'm talking to a contractor that does ICF and he said you wouldn't need pier and beam foundation for it. I live out in Texas so we don't do basements here. We're usually slab on grade or pier and beam foundation. He recommended just a waffle slab foundation and said with ICF you have a complete concrete box that is sitting on dirt. Even if the foundation shifts the entire box goes with it so you won't have the bends or mis-alignments like wood frame would. What are your thoughts with this ?

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

I agree with that 100%. We have to dig basements to get below the frost in the winter otherwise more people would do slab on grade. Either way you have a monolithic building that can handle shifts or extreme weather

@executiveflooring 6 жыл бұрын

Great video series with the icf build! How does the cost compare to traditional framing for an entire house?

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

When comparing a full house build an ICF is only 5-7% more than a conventional build. You also have to keep in mind for that extra cost you also get way more benefits. More strength, better insulation and so on. On a shop the percentage for ICF is higher because the building is mostly walls anyway. No additional costs to bring the average price down. Examples: flooring, cabinets, heating, plumbing, doors and finishing. You get the idea.

@kfogle95 6 жыл бұрын

Kody we need more icf builders near me want to come to Iowa to do a build lol I enjoy your videos and wish there were more icf builder near me to get my home built using icfs and done properly

@keithscalley6361 6 жыл бұрын

The insulation part what is the made of, also how do you put up walls ? And what is used against the ICF wall to run electric and plumbing and what do you paint?

@lindajonesartist 6 жыл бұрын

Can ICF be used for an earth bermed house with a walk-out basement on a hill? In other words, it would have a full walk-out basement AND have earth berming on the main floor on three sides. What accommodations would have to be made for that increased vertical pressure on the bermed walls? Would the basement walls need to be thicker? Are there forms that are deeper to accommodate this sort of design? Or would it take the same size forms all the way up?

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

Yes ICF can be used for almost any application. These specific homes would need an engineer to verify loads. They would spec wall thickness and rebar. And yes there are multiple wall thicknesses available. 6”, 8”, 10”, 12” and more.

@1goblingreen404 6 жыл бұрын

So to clarify, the basement and first floor would be a continuous pour? Or would there be a seam (cold joint) between the two floors?

@MooberryFarmFamily 6 жыл бұрын

There would be a cold joint. not uncommon in vertical concrete construction. you extend the rebar above the pour into the next pour.

@themadmachinist8637 6 жыл бұрын

Does this system have provisions for more classical designs? I'm partial to Victorian styling with nice sweeping curves and turrets. I was thinking of doing traditional masonry but this would be a pretty sweet set up.

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely it is! The ICF system can fit any architectural design. Turrets and curved walls are easy to do and most block manufacturers have books with details on what to do to obtain a certain radius for curved wall. Not only that but because the walls are structural you have more flexibility in regards to vaulted trusses than wood framing. Example: in a vaulted truss on wood wall the trusses have to be designed as so the walls don’t spread. With ICF this is a non issue. The walls support themselves.

@themadmachinist8637 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. This is definitely on my radar for when I build my forever home! I'm building that puppy to last. Like I want it people in 3000 years speculating on whether or not my home was a religious site or something =P

@dustyh2371 4 жыл бұрын

On a 2-story house, is there a way to have a 2nd floor ICF wall NOT be continuous to the footing below? I'm talking about where the outline of the 2nd floor is different than the 1st floor.

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely! I send you a link to another one of my videos.

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

10 Reasons to Design with ICF (Insulated Concrete Forms) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL9oe9uczp2Rd2Q.html

@matthewodilibertom9662 2 жыл бұрын

Hi kody , I am doing a ICF home would you recommend a 4” insulation under basement slab?

@uptokode 2 жыл бұрын

Bare minimum is 2” but 4” is ideal.

@ashtonshaw282 4 жыл бұрын

How to you build a roof once you get up the walls? Same way as the floor?

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

For a roof we set anchor bolts into the concrete at whatever height we want the main floor ceiling to be. The next way we bolt down an LVL top plate (full width of the ICF). Now we have 12 inches to nail our trusses down to. Trusses sit directly on the LVL and get toe nailed down. In summary, trusses nail the exact same way as a wood frame wall, you just have twice the width to work with.

@brocharumplestilskin4513 Жыл бұрын

Hello Kody, We are looking into doing a home with ICF, But concerned about the Cold joint, We are doing a basement and a level above. 10 ft basement, 9ft above that, any suggestions?

@uptokode Жыл бұрын

No concern with a cold joint if you run rebar out from the 1st pour so it ties into the 2nd. Keep your walls clean and don’t cut foam over the wall. That’s the best recipe for success

@moocrazytn 5 жыл бұрын

I assume the gable ends are stick built or is there some technique to pour concrete at an angle? I understand how the concrete could last for centuries. But what about the foam? Thanks!

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

If you have a flat ceiling then a wood gable is fine. Once you start doing vaults then ICF is the way to go for the gable end. Follow us on Instagram to see some gable installs. I’ll also be shooting a ton of ICF content this year and gable ends is on the list.

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

The foam should last just as long. It will never be exposed to the elements.

@mattvaitkunas8319 4 жыл бұрын

Do you frame up interior walls around the exterior to run your services?

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

No. The ICF has attachment inside the block for drywall and other finishes. There’s 2 5/8” of foam to run electrical. You can rent plumbing vent pipes in the foam too to help vent sinks and such. Other than that no major services get ran in exterior walls.

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

But good question!

@mattvaitkunas8319 4 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode but then you loose your r rating fairly quickly that way? Waste piping alone youd have to cut most of the way to the concrete? So you must desing the vanities, tubs, ect to use interior walls/chases? Thank you for putting up these videos, just wish you built in Massachusetts haha

@sandy-iw8jp 5 жыл бұрын

Every house in BC canada has mice problem this might be the solution for it

@mainlawcafewv7681 4 жыл бұрын

the mice are smarter.

@jerodernst6706 5 жыл бұрын

Would that make a new cold joint?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

Yes there will be a cold joint when you pour the next lift. A couple of notes on that. I like to keep the walls the clean. No cutting block overtop of the walls which cause junk to fall down to the cold joint. Be mindful of that. You will have rebar protruding from the old pour into the new which connects the 2 lifts and maintains structural integrity. An ICF building should always have building paper to shed water from behind the siding and out of a drip cap further down. Paper is vital to any structure and has to be properly lapped for drainage. The cold joint can allow water in if you assume that ICF doesn’t need building paper

@jerodernst6706 5 жыл бұрын

Chould you per say, build all the way to the top, placing joints, then add roof and pour like a spider tie build? Sorry for picking your brain. Me and the wifey have been thinking about building our house using a combination of these ideas. Most likly built in texas. Hill side type build.

@jerodernst6706 5 жыл бұрын

Being raised in wis. I have a death fear of cold joints lol

@Whois2440 5 жыл бұрын

Just curious, how much more expensive is this vs 2x6 construction?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

It’s only 5-7% more on the entire build. The only real difference between a 2x6 home and a full ICF home is the exterior walls above the foundation. Everything else is the same. You still need a foundation, a floor system, trusses and roof, kitchen, bathrooms, etc. For a small increase in cost is it worth 60% better insulation value? 8 times stronger and 10 times more air tight?

@dwwolf4636 5 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode Or a 5% smaller home for the same cost, with lower utility cost and lower insurance costs. Laughing all the way to the bank if you funnel that into paying of your mortgage.

@dwwolf4636 5 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode ps. Whats the added costs of adding something like the 4"panels that quadlock has ?

@Zeakthecat 5 жыл бұрын

one question of ICF construction: how resistant is ICF to fires, tornadoes, earthquakes and other natural disasters? the reason why i ask is because im wanting to save up enough money to build a house and i want the house to withstand at least low end EF4, and up to 6.5 MM scale.

@Himothy_da1st 5 жыл бұрын

It's very resistance to fire as well as hurricane and tornado proof

@Zeakthecat 5 жыл бұрын

@@Himothy_da1st good, because i also plan on using ICF construction to build several self sufficient tiny homes and rent em out.

@Himothy_da1st 5 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I did 6 rental properties so far you also get a better insurance rate because it's such a safe structure and tax breaks as well

@TheMarpalm 5 жыл бұрын

Would not want to be in anything but a concrete (ICF) house. We just had a 4.4 earthquake very close to where we live in our ICF house. The house felt amazingly strong and solid throughout. Also if you build with stucco exterior and metal soffit, facia and roof system your house is basically fireproof on the outside.

@Zeakthecat 5 жыл бұрын

so i take it you live close to decatur tennessee? didn't know there was any ICF homes over there.

@johnpalmer5131 5 жыл бұрын

I am planning on building a hose a lot in lake county IL (north of Chicago). Do you conduct business in this areA or recommend someone who does?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

No I don’t and unfortunately I don’t know anyone in that area. I would try Instagram as I see a ton of high end ICF builders on there.

@kfogle95 6 жыл бұрын

I need kody in central Iowa in the USA

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@StariusPrime 4 жыл бұрын

And he can stop by northwest Iowa while at it! 👍

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

I sure wish I could. Don’t be afraid to email me if you have design questions down the road.

@frantzflorvil5211 5 жыл бұрын

The Caribbeans have issues with earthquakes I know for ICF is the solution!!! How does one get started with ICF?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

Are you wanting to build in the Caribbean? I would probably contact some ICF block companies. Most provide training so get you started. If you want more specific info please reach out to me. Kody@uptokode.com.

@frantzflorvil5211 5 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode YES!!!!! Haiti it is an explorabale market but it has to be cost effective (poor country) thanks

@thebaldman72 5 жыл бұрын

I'm preparing for an icf build myself. My question is when do you do the basement floor pour?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

After the trusses are set, roof is on, most of the rough-in’s are complete. Before drywall

@rongray4118 6 жыл бұрын

SIPS on top

@uptokode 6 жыл бұрын

How do you mean? SIPS for above grade walls or roof?

@joeschlotthauer840 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the new concrete have to bond with the old...

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

That’s why you have rebar dowels from old to new. That’s the connection. If you keep the wall clean like we do then the concrete will have some bond but not enough for structural, besides compressive. Steel is most important in concrete to allow it to have tensile strength

@paulnovak833 4 жыл бұрын

Add a cold joint bonding agent between pours

@michaelleonard7579 5 жыл бұрын

Why not an ICF floor and roof?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

All comes down to usesge and cost. A suspended concrete floor is about 4X the costs of the open web joists with flush beam. The slab offers a ton of thermal mass but it all depends on what the customer wants.

@70newlife 4 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode great!! I was wondering if it is possible. In many countries people balk at wood in construction and concrete is the way to go. I would love to see a video of concrete ICF floor and roof.

@ChrisElmhorst 5 жыл бұрын

Is it really $250 a hanger? Or $250 for a box of 16 Hangers? There's no way to contact them to ask.

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

No the hangers are roughly $20-$25 each. The Lavann are hard to find. There’s another type called Watkins or something like that.

@ChrisElmhorst 5 жыл бұрын

@@uptokode yeah when I looked up the Lavann it took me to a page called Watkins. I thought they were just a distributor of the hanger. I'll have to look harder!

@mainlawcafewv7681 4 жыл бұрын

uppity to Kody.

@seamorebutts1594 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't build another way. My icf home is three stories, with lofts and cathedral.

@uptokode 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool! And I agree with you.

@abbefurnari9824 5 жыл бұрын

How do you avoid the environmental issues with millions of foam particles entering the job site and being taken by wind into surrounding areas. I don't believe the foam you are using is biodegradable in any way?

@uptokode 5 жыл бұрын

That’s a great question and one I’m going to make a video about really soon. You do have a really good point about the foam but here are my points. So many people still want to build wood frame structures. So we cut down a trees to do this, a plant that absorbs CO2 (the substance responsible for global warming) and we make stuff. Then because those building are limited in efficiency, we then add multiple layers and products on top of that to make it more energy efficient. All those products have a carbon footprint (aka create more CO2). At the end of the day those building still rot and need to be replaced. Now look at an ICF building. Very high efficient, concrete centre that lasts hundreds of years, all done in one step and no need to cut down trees that absorb all this CO2 we are worried about. Just something to think about.

@mainlawcafewv7681 4 жыл бұрын

kill the obnoxious music.

@mainlawcafewv7681 5 жыл бұрын

Turn off stupid music