ICF House Build - Answering Viewer Questions!

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Episode 40: Your Questions Answered!
In this episode John and Leslie answer the most common viewer questions about their ICF house build. They cover the following topics: the size of the home; cost to build their ICF dream home; the use of Xypex concrete additive so that no vapor barrier is needed; termite concerns with ICF block; the suspended garage floor over the bedroom; no floor drains in the garage; cold joints in an ICF home; and waterproofing the concrete roof.
Our viewers are the best! We are so happy to dedicate this episode (our 40th!!!) to you.
0:00 Introduction
1:18 What is the size of your ICF house?
2:50 What are the sizes of the concrete and steel decks?
4:11 How much did it cost to build our ICF house?
9:15 Why is there no vapor barrier on the house?
11:54 How did you treat for termites?
13:32 How do you feel about bedroom under your garage!?!
15:25 Why do you not have garage floor drains?
17:09 Do you have cold joints in your ICF walls?
19:12 How will we waterproof our concrete roof?
How to prevent termite infestation in ICF homes www.nachi.org/icf-termite-ins...
Links to other videos mentioned in this episode:
Suspended Garage LiteDeck Floor • Suspended Concrete Gar...
Retaining Wall from Native Stone • Expert excavator opera...
Wood Accent Trim on ICF Block • How to Install Wood Ac...
ICF House First Concrete Pour • ICF Concrete Monolithi...
DIY Mini Split HVAC • MR. COOL DIY Mini Spli...

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@hazelreimers6050 16 күн бұрын

Watching you from Australia - thanks for all your tips, tricks and insights!

@LakeLotBuild 14 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching ☺️

@joequixotic3039 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in southern Nevada and I think your house is looking great. I especially like the fact that your design is pretty restrained but you are putting money in to the parts important to you.

@logoschristianacademy6044 2 жыл бұрын

Branson, MO. Thanks for the videos!

@BG-dc8hb Жыл бұрын

I'm watching from Grenada

@hawk00055 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I am from Canada.

@energywiseproducts Жыл бұрын

I have worked in the roofing/waterproofing industry in the past. One product used by the Disney Corp for waterproofing everything including balconies is Polycoat Products USA out of California. That company provides coverings for Decks, Roofs, Walkways and Truck bed Liner systems

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you for this recommendation. Right now we have a silicone layer that seems to be working, but we definitely want to know what else we might use if this doesn't work long-term.

@thetechpastor 2 жыл бұрын

Reston, VA - As always GREAT work. I have loved watching your home pour out over time......

@bigretardhalo 2 жыл бұрын

Watching from the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia… similar topography and climate so your build is very intriguing to me… I’ve been enjoying it, keep up the good work.

@davetaylor8614 Жыл бұрын

Good video, your xypex is a silane that prevents bonding of coatings as it becomes a crystalline matrix. The coatings bond were there is less xypex in the cement. You should consider a 25psi eps foam mechanical bond with a TPO 60 mil mechanical bond to concrete this will increase insulation and give you a belt and suspenders solution.

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jimmyfraser11 2 жыл бұрын

Love you guys and your channel..always so interesting!! Thank you!🎉❤️

@flash333g 2 жыл бұрын

Tigard Oregon.....You guy's are building like what i am looking to build. Keep episodes coming...

@angeloc700 2 жыл бұрын

Vermont! Great video - thanks for sharing your journey! Best to you all!

@dlg5485 2 жыл бұрын

NE Ohio... I really appreciate you publishing this build series because I'm in the early planning stages for my own ICF build and these videos are great research for me as well as just being enjoyable to watch. Great job...keep em coming!

@BCummings 2 жыл бұрын

I always appreciate the videos, but this answers questions I should have asked. And the price at which you are bringing it in... very impressive! What a beautiful view you're going to have. Very well done!

@karrielandriault4692 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Watching from Northern Ontario Canada and we are building our ICF home this year. Lots to learn. Very much enjoying your content. Cheers

@zeake13 2 жыл бұрын

LaGrange Georgia here. I might end up building one of those. :)

@Pond_life 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Guys, were watching from NL Canada, keep up the great Videos!

@jackwhiteside5094 2 жыл бұрын

Ten years ago Dallas Reunion Center went through an upgrade. The existing concrete porches suffered from water incursion. A commercial roofing company applied a thick membrane over the repaired original substrate and poured a new concrete deck over it.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We are looking at all our options, so this is one we will look into.

@repatasgallahar3138 2 жыл бұрын

San Antonio, TX retired and living on an AFB. We Bought 2 acres of land a few months. Had a big section cleared where we know the house is going to be. We found a modern plan online and took it around to builders and they all said 1 Million dollars and more. lol Well that won't work unless we both go back to work. Our lot is like yours it slopes from front to back and we want a walk out basement. I made the mistake of watching your videos with my wife and now she thinks I can build it like you John. We will be our own GC and shop around. We are comparing ICF and Precast concrete as our house structure. We won't start until we are prepared and ready. We actually enjoy living on base which is a change. Keep up the excellent work. We will be watching intently and taking tons of notes. Aloha, Taz

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Best of luck to you all! This was our first house build (we have done 3 remodels) and it has definitely been a roller coaster ride, but I know we will enjoy this house for decades to come. Next episode will feature what we would have done differently, so that may help you all in thinking about how to build your dream home!

@jdeesy 2 жыл бұрын

Taz - I purchased some land near Asheville NC in the hope of building when we retire... would love to learn about your ICF/Precast process, especially if you go the precast route! I'm learning so much from @LakeLotBuild

@dshep4589 2 жыл бұрын

Best ICF videos you can find! You guys rock! From SLC

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That is so cool to hear!

@Trident_Euclid 2 жыл бұрын

Here on the middle we use tar mats or what's commonly known as "Bituminous waterproofing" on top of the concrete ro/deck. The sheets are welded together using heat from propane or butane torch.

@drhardipdhatt6732 2 жыл бұрын

Surrey, UK, amazing information, thanks guys

@tonymccreath4540 2 жыл бұрын

Costa Rica, here as in Spain roof patio areas we noticed they tiled all areas, simple long lasting answer to common problem.

@claytonsmith7154 2 жыл бұрын

Billings Montana, I enjoy watching your progress

@erinmaslowski8243 2 жыл бұрын

Parkville, MO. Love your channel. Our lake home is in Branson West. Where are you guys? Fun to watch!

@casperunnerup 2 жыл бұрын

3:17 Damn, that's a nice view! Don't get those here in Copenhagen Denmark

@bigneilh Жыл бұрын

a lot of those foams are treated with pesticides to keep ants and termites out. Not sure about this one but the ants do like to make colonies in the foam.

@scp8412 2 жыл бұрын

you guys are awesome! Amazing house. Castle I should say :) It should last a few generation

@jimhatch5873 2 жыл бұрын

Watching from CT but building a lakefront house in NC. Great stuff.

@Swiss2thfairy 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from Switzerland ♥️🇨🇭♥️

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We have been to Brig, Chur, Zurich, and Zermatt. We absolutely LOVE Switzerland and can't wait to go back! ❤️

@maykapavlicek218 Жыл бұрын

From Canada

@timothybrawley7909 2 жыл бұрын

i'm from the country of N. Carolina. Just joking. I enjoyed your videos. Anything from your experiences will help when I get ready to do my build. Even though I'M going to have an architech design and schedule on my plans the things I need to do in the order that they need to be done, there are things that are not on paper that I'll probably run into that's not on paper that I'll face. These videos will probably be very helpful. Thanks Tim

@dgiturbo3247 2 жыл бұрын

Watching from Illinois. For the roof, research what RV’s use. My 7 year old fifth wheel has a walk on roof and never leaks. Sits outside since it was built. Great videos. I plan on doing an ICF home build in a couple of years so learning from your trials.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! We have a video coming up soon called "What we would have done differently!" That might help too.

@cnettrouer 2 жыл бұрын

Fort Wayne, IN

@brandonburton9241 Жыл бұрын

Have you considered thick polyurethane sprayed coating? Durabak comes to mind. I'm referring to what most people refer to as truck bed liner. However, the same product is used on playground equipment, boat decks and a lot of other things. Something to look into.

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

We recently used silicone rubber paint which is basically the same thing! A roofing company suggested Inland for the brand. So far it has fixed our problem and looks great!

@jeffreyroth7517 2 жыл бұрын

For the roof, we have a company in GA that did a Polysaspartic Polyurea coating on our concrete garage floors. Extremely durable and attractive, I would think it'd be durable in the sun as they do concrete pool decks as well. I do believe it's waterproof, but not 110% sure.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We will check that out. We need to coat our garage floors too, so we need to look into for that reason too.

@aidenjones5445 Жыл бұрын

From Prince edward Island Canada

@TriDaddy 2 жыл бұрын

Iowa!

@tonytango6676 2 жыл бұрын

Manitoba, Canada expecting a blizzard tomorrow and more snow the following day. With 3 feet of snow already on the ground.

@haleylindberg3327 2 жыл бұрын

Plymouth MA soon to be TN!

@ELIRAXPRT 2 жыл бұрын

idea for the roof- tapered insulation for drainage if needed, epdm roof, with pavers on pedestals such as Tile Tech Paver system

@lescheyne9210 2 жыл бұрын

Aberdeen, Scotland, UK

@gregp4935 2 жыл бұрын

After watching you for about 9 months it just occurred to me that your roof view of the lake looks a lot like the Lakeview from our house but not as prevalent as yours and I started to think are these people in the same area as we are going to build? Then I saw your seamless siding jackets that the guys were wearing. And it is in the same area. We're probably another year off from starting but we will be building on the western edge of that Lake.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We love Table Rock, and I am sure you all will be very happy here! Best of luck to you on your build and thanks for watching!!!

@gregp4935 Жыл бұрын

You are right it is Table Rock Lake but I didn't want to say that out loud. LOL we're down in the Shell Knob area and we are considering lifetime builders out of Branson West and of course it will be in ICF build. Best of luck maybe we'll run into you. God bless

@Krazie-Ivan 2 жыл бұрын

as the guy who suggested the rooftop deck that you're now so in-love with, sorry the waterproofing isn't quite sorted. ...my plans involve some slope to avoid pooling, & so i had to find a deck solution that allows for correction back to a level surface; Bison pedestals. this should allow the concrete waterproofing to not also need to stand up to foot/furniture traffic. the added cost is high, but weigh that against the added value of the usable deck & views?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Well no regrets other than the fact that the concrete guys missed the slope. If we had it to do over again, we would have made the front wall taller or had the slope built into the Litedeck.

@Krazie-Ivan 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild ...another thought -i'm not 100% sure if Ecofinish would be an option (as it's a relatively new process developed for pools), but i've floated the idea to Aaron King on an ICF FB page. exceptional builder, brilliant tech, seems like loads of potential uses. ya might reach out to him too.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We will definitely check that out. Thank you!

@HuntBobo 2 жыл бұрын

North Mississippi

@_Yep_Yep_ Жыл бұрын

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina.

@KeithFrazier74 2 жыл бұрын

Jacksonville fl.

@brucerogers3291 2 жыл бұрын

OTR trucker just past Memphis on our way to Cali. Was the Zypex additive expensive? I’m sure it may have been better than the labor and cost of vaper product… thx bruce

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Not expensive at all. It is really just pennies per SQ ft. Definitely worth it.

@brucerogers3291 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild thank you I’m wanting to build a home with a basement in north Florida and this product will help me do that. Thank you and continued Blessings. I’ve throughly enjoyed watching y’all build this home

@CEOsario 2 жыл бұрын

Remember: The additive is in the concrete and municipalities design tanks differently - If the structure has any sort of settlement there could be a crack which will give you a leak. I still specify the waterproofing in residential.

@shenoyglobal 2 жыл бұрын

can you mention how did you waterproof the roof top deck? what are the layers on the deck above the lite deck? also have you tiled the roof top deck.. would love to see the pics Have you researched Siplast?

@johnwenger3097 2 жыл бұрын

Great videos! Are you using your infloor radiant heat? Recommend using it in new build in Missouri?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We are! We have radiant floor heating in our lower floor embedded in the concrete slab. We haven't hooked it up yet but we're excited to see how well it warms the house in the winter. I think it's a great solution for heating in Missouri

@petermayiii722 2 жыл бұрын

Smithvile, MO

@cliff7634 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you did to your roof that is bubbling up and not adhering. But here are a couple of things to look at. We have done many epoxy out door coating that are UV stable and last a very long time. The key to this being done right is the prep work to make sure you get the hold it can give you. Second and not sure if it has ever been used this way before is from Ecofinish high performance coating. you may want to check and see if they are able to be in your area. Both of these will work I think. Good luck have a good day.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! We will look into those!

@petermayiii722 2 жыл бұрын

You two are doing great, $115.00 per sq. ft. is excellent. We live on 40 acres with too large a house. We have another 450 acres ajoining and We have another 40 acres across the fence which we built a road through and made 8 5 acre lots.My wife designed another house. Covid stopped our building plans a couple of years ago. Looking to start up again now we are getting quotes of up to $350 per square foot. So guess we will wait for now. Would like ICF and or SIPS to build with.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, new homes custom built are at least $250 a sq foot to start here.

@joequixotic3039 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen too many redeeming features of SIPs. When I looked in to them, they didn't look much better than conventional framing with foam board insulation wrapped around it but they were expensive. ICF makes your house practically a vault and can work out cheaper when finishes are added in. To me, ICF with wood framed ceilings and floors makes a lot of sense unless you want second floor parking or a roof deck... Combining ICF and SIPs doesn't seem like a very good combo to me. Make sure you budget carefully and choose wisely.

@rdavis20 Жыл бұрын

Jackson MS

@dhamps10 2 жыл бұрын

100 miles east of St Louis

@tracydociabuchanan6863 2 жыл бұрын

It might be possible to use the garage epoxy on the roof????

@shadowmatrx 5 ай бұрын

Watching a 2nd time (or is it 3rd now?) from Indiana

@LakeLotBuild 4 ай бұрын

Aww, thank you! I hope it's helpful.

@timothygousse9398 2 жыл бұрын

Have you thought about Linex or Rhino liner (truck bed liner) to waterproof your roof?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

🤔

@josepheaston8979 2 жыл бұрын

Massachusetts

@richardschoenberger6558 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from Mico, TX (10 miles outside San Antonio) and seeking contractors for a Fox Blocks exterior wall build.

@jtr82369 Жыл бұрын

New sub here so might have missed in a previous vid, but did you install an Energy Recovery System? With an envelope so tight I’d think you’d need one

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

We did! We have a video about that installation. It has also helped us mitigate radon in the house.

@jtr82369 Жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild Ahh found it, and it's the best install vid I've seen for these things 👍

@ToddBizCoach 2 жыл бұрын

As a commercial roofing company We adhere roofs to all new construction involving concrete decks. If you want I can send you a link that will describe and show you how this is accomplished. It will also cure your ponding issue. There is no pitch to your roof of even 1/4 inch if you have ponding.

@ToddBizCoach 2 жыл бұрын

You will need to put a layer of walk pad over the TPO to prevent premature aging of TPO due to foot traffic. Various types of walk pad are available.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Yes please! You can email is at lakelotbuild@gmail.com

@Trident_Euclid 2 жыл бұрын

How much is ICF more expensive (%) than CMU + reinforced concrete beams and suspended slap would be?

@ThatBeardedVeteran 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are building exactly how I vision building my custom dream home in the future. I wasn’t a home that will last centuries. One question I had is how the cellular reception is in the home being a full concrete and rebar? I have been curious if the rebar creates a faraday cage effect.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Cell reception is good! We have duo called and sent pics from the basement. So far, so good!

@ThatBeardedVeteran 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild good to know thanks!

@albertvonschultz9137 Жыл бұрын

Cheyenne Wyoming

@evatrevino1737 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a question. Do you have an attic between your main level and your concrete roof? I’m trying to decide if I need an attic with our build. Thinking of mini split system as well so no need for attic systems.

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

No attic for us. We put the lite deck on as the roof right on top of the last row of ICF block.

@conradfamily8644 2 жыл бұрын

Could you do heated flooring in the walls and floors/ roof?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We did heated floors in the slab. Not sure about the walls. The roof I think could be done. That would be so cool!

@jturco7 2 жыл бұрын

Omaha, Nebraska

@EduardPogosov Жыл бұрын

Curious where you guys settled on the waterproofing of the roof deal. I am looking at doing something similar and wanted to get ahead of any issues. One thing my architect recommended is a membrane on top of the litedeck sheets before the concrete is poured but that's probably not an option for you guys at this point.

@LakeLotBuild Жыл бұрын

We have had great success with a liquid silicone brush in product. We went through several products (water-based) that did not work. The rubber membrane has worked great.

@EduardPogosov Жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild Do you recall the name of the silicone product? Thanks

@waynegrant158 2 жыл бұрын

Jamaica 🇯🇲😊

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! So cool! Thanks for watching!

@waynegrant158 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild your welcome

@Ms2Chill 2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that Mapei makes waterproofing systems for decks and may be more practical

@aussiebicolanalifestyle 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Watching from Sydney Australia. We have a construction going on in the Philippines and we are concerned about rusting. The house will be on top of a mountain and facing the Pacific Ocean. What is your advice with materials. Ths

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a gorgeous setting! I would think ICF would do well there considering that they do a lot of construction out of concrete in the philippines. I would suggest calling Fox Blocks or another ICF block company to see what they suggest.

@matthood9838 2 жыл бұрын

65734 I enjoy seeing your progress.

@jdeesy 2 жыл бұрын

Stuttgart, Germany. Any thought to solar on the roof?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We went to the Stuttgart Christmas market several years ago! When we traveled through Germany we saw solar everywhere, especially on barn roofs. It was fantastic! We could definitely do solar some day in the future. The house is totally electric, so that would make us completely self reliant.

@DK-vx5co Жыл бұрын

Just wondering something. Some people watch for catharsis and others for actual data. When you talk about the costs (per sq ft), and then talk about how you are doing much of the labor, would it not be a good idea to at least refer to the hours since those hours are reducing the sq ft costs? I know from experience that labor can be half of a project, depending on how much sub labor is being used. My first project was about $60/ft in a multi-million dollar neighborhood; but that was with much of my labor and 40 years ago; thus, both out of context. Though you are not being billed for the labor, it IS a "cost" since you could be doing something else. like robbing a bank or something. There is a guy on YT who claims he built a Tesla S for $6000, but he probably put $100,000 of his time into it. So, not really "just $6000". Kinda makes that clickbait and dishonest. Otherwise, come over and do my project at "no cost". Get what I am alluding to, for purposes of clarity? Overall, really like the deep dives.

@Ms2Chill 2 жыл бұрын

Place epdm sheet on the roof and then pour another layer of cement on top

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We thought about doing this for the first pour. The engineers were worried about the cold joint or cracking on a thinner 4" topping slab. Not saying it would not work, but there were concerns.

@Ms2Chill 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild hmm .... in that case, look into tclear heavyguard over the epdm

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We will definitely look at that!

@marvinchambers779 2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to be building a ICF home in Kimberling city ants creek. I will be in town 2/21 to 2/25. Any chance I could stop by & pick your brain & check out the house? Sorry to ask this on the comments but did not know if you had PM. The house looks great.

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Email us at lakelotbuild@gmail.com We can make one of those days work!

@khayos7746 2 жыл бұрын

I am curious why the icf roof cost between 30 and 40k when icf roofs are typically between 13 and 17 dollars a square foot turnkey for flat or shallow single slope. What is the breakdown of your roof cost? If you don't mind ☺️

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

We ended up around $26 per SQ ft for everything - LiteDeck, labor, and concrete. We didn't have a broken down cost as the roof was done by our ICF contractor.

@khayos7746 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild no worries. I was just trying to see why it was so out of range from the average. I know municipalities, and material availability affect things like that as well as contractor pricing, but I was feeling nosey. Thank you for answering.

@russellgilson4072 2 жыл бұрын

wisconsin

@12cunow 2 жыл бұрын

1 inch pavers over the elastomeric membrane -- the pavers will protect the membrane from puncture (large hailstones, high heels and intense friction on hot days) and distortion and may also apply constant pressure to abate delamination ... ?

@LakeLotBuild 2 жыл бұрын

Love this idea. We will look into it.

@12cunow 2 жыл бұрын

@@LakeLotBuild you may need to put a layer between (like that orange mat for tile) - then brush sand between the cracks and fill them with that polymer sand.

@dsbrower 2 жыл бұрын

From Utah. Take a look at this solution for the roof deck: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e558eqSHp9Kno2g.html He does a lot a great videos on his construction business. This video is a deck system over the flat roof. I think you could do the same thing with composite boards and a do it yourself solution. The panels are easy to replicate, the key is the plastic risers under the floor.