ICF Pools of the future! stronger, cheaper and more efficient!

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video we take a fairly in depth look into ICF pools, specifically a pretty simple vinyl liner pool, and how diy-able they may be. This video further demonstrates the versatility and ease of use of ICF as a construction material and method. I started this video months ago behind a new construction home and weather and supply chain issues caused the infrastructure to be somewhat delayed so some of the clips were before i had a microphone so i apologize about any iffy audio!
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@treezy8769 3 жыл бұрын

I've seen several of these pools in person and they're even better than you imagine!

@JayKast 3 жыл бұрын

Great content! Very few people are willing to show how to do a DIY pool. I remember back years ago when it wasnt recommended. Thank you!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Our high end monopours are not something I would diy but vinyl liners are pretty simple, just a floor, wall, and liner structurally and pretty simple plumbing, not saying somebody should do this out of the gate but assuming some ability it’s doable!

@thisguy333 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 u scared someone would take work? Lol show the mono pour

@j.a.r.family2576 3 жыл бұрын

Damn I love how you explain the process. Good job Sir.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Thank u!

@d8niel77 3 жыл бұрын

I've been installing icf for 25+ years always wanted to build my pool out of it hopefully you will show more in depth video on it so I can do it thanks

@warshaq101 3 ай бұрын

yeah he talked too much...

@chrishallk1 3 жыл бұрын

Great job. I have been building these since 2006 custome hot tubs and pools. especially in the northern states. it keeps the water in the pool heated as its insulated and retains the heat. great that others are doing the same.. great job

@danielpadlo2401 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome job and info !!!

@Knee_Boy64 Жыл бұрын

Very informative. I'm still renting so none of this is doable for me right now, but I like your style and I'm now subscribed to your channel for my future home renovation needs.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

Thank u!

@Mett-wt3xj 2 жыл бұрын

If you run a snake or string through the light conduit you can install liner then light faceplate, cut hole for liner then just pull the light cable back to electrical box. No need to take it apart that way. Good vid. I’ve done steel wall ingrounds with vermiculite bottoms for 25 years. I wonder the cost difference is with these. Might have to give one a try. Good vid.

@JerichoRally 2 жыл бұрын

I was so hoping you'd do the nestea plunge at the end of the video! Beautiful pool!!

@STEVEGOTITPOOL Жыл бұрын

We use the 3m glue to stick the gaskets on under the liner. Works good

@dianabrown256 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Now come build us one!!! We need it bad!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

I just realized this was u;). Move back closer and maybe I will!

@waltere.mellin3537 2 жыл бұрын

The ICF pool is a really cool build. I've never heard of a saltwater pool before

@gogadgo 2 жыл бұрын

I bought an Intex sand/saltwater pump for my above 16 foot ground pool and it was great until hurricane IDA. My neighbors patio cover came apart in pieces and flew over the fence and obliterated the pool.

@kevinkevin9448 3 жыл бұрын

You remember me of Matt Rissinger great builder

@waynehiggins6771 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice, never knew ICF was even an option. I really want to learn how to do ICF for an addition I want to put on my lake house. The house sits on the side of a hill so I think ICF will be the way to go to hold back the hillside.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a great option!

@aubreyroche5080 3 жыл бұрын

Well, that was cool !

@southhillhomestead2651 3 жыл бұрын

I have had crazy anticipation for this video. Thanks for posting. Great info!

@doolittlegeorge 3 жыл бұрын

Needs to have an Ice Rink option.

@peteravila83 2 жыл бұрын

Love Malibu style pools!

@theredcabin Жыл бұрын

Really great video. Was totally waiting for you to jump in the pool at the end. Almost looked like you had that "check this out" smile going. Would have been epic!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have said that lol

@danielpadlo2401 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@realdanbuildsit 2 жыл бұрын

This is a cool video. I built an indoor 16x32 a few years ago out of ICFs and I used pex in the floor to heat it with radiant heat. Customer runs a cover when it’s not in use and his propane bill barely changed even though he heats it to 90 with no pool heater🤣👊🏼

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Ya I’m going to try to accentuate the thermal benefits of icf pools as the few Gunite homers on here have 0 answers for how to compete with icf on that front!

@realdanbuildsit 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 it’s a drastic difference. In ground pools are extremely uncommon where I live so I’ve only gotten the chance to do one. I used the Stegmeier forms for the coping and the only thing I’d change is the way the liner kinda compressed the foam at the very top. Keep up the good work!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Ya on liners we use the aluminum bullnose when we can get it so it’s entrained in the coping and doesn’t try to pull the foam down, if we use a Cantilever form Like stegmeyer, we cut the inside form down like 4” and let concrete come out all the way to the face of the icf, giving it a sturdy place to set the liner track

@brygasm Жыл бұрын

Interesting equipment choices

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

@Donkey550 3 жыл бұрын

This channel has so much potential. Great content. Tighten up the videos a bit and y’all will have a 100K subscribers by next year.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, we are still dialing in the details and delivery but we are trying!

@maddalenadicristofaro189 3 жыл бұрын

Looks great. Really like the way you explain things compared to some guys who just like to hear themselves talk. Couple of quick questions. I'm going to attempt to do my own icf plunge pool, 5ft deep flat bottom. Was wondering if you think I could do footings and do the floor of the pool with rigid insulation and compacted sand instead of concrete. I was also thinking of doing one step across the full width with concrete but not sure if a liner can be made to accommodate something like that. Appreciate you answering our questions. Thnx

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

If you are doing a liner u can do sand or vermiculite(pool Crete) for sure! And you can do benches and other shapes, they make the liner to order, look into the liner track imbedded in the steps and benches as a way to hold the liner in place while it’s filling, it’s kind of a new solution but I love it!

@JeffWoodwick 3 ай бұрын

DIYing it. Thanks.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome;)

@samrock7632 3 жыл бұрын

I would always use anti-seize on stainless steel hardware, prevents galling .

@michaeljbreault 3 жыл бұрын

That was a great video. Had me hooked from start to finish. Did you build the pool to a certain size to fit the sizing requirement of the liner?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Liners can be ordered any shape or size!

@johndeleonardo9133 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 how much does the average rectangular line cost. Average size backyard pool? And then how much for a custom shape?

@carlthornton3076 3 жыл бұрын

Very Good!..

@carlosm809 3 жыл бұрын

I could use a pool builder as yourself here in Knoxville, TN. Thanks for the video!

@bryanbowen4193 3 жыл бұрын

I'm in Knoxville.

@carlosm809 3 жыл бұрын

@@bryanbowen4193 How can I contact you?

@bryanbowen4193 3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosm809 My bad I'm not a pool builder. I just was thinking small world that we both landed on this video. I'm looking into the costs of having a pool installed myself.

@free_society_of_upright_in_YaH 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Thanks for putting together. How long would a liner like this last in an indoor pool application?

@Cake41579 Ай бұрын

It’ll last right up until the time that it doesn’t. It all depends on how the pool is taken care of and whether you “condition” the liner each year after drain down for cleaning or maintenance. A good conditioner we use is similar to a wax that’s used on vinyl wrap. It helps restore the flexible properties to the liner that’s so crucial to its ability to remain in use.

@brandonandrews5063 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing Job!! How did you secure the liner track to the top of the ICF?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Liquid nails pro foam…. Then I drove tec screws every 1’ leaving them hang up 1/2-3/4” into the concrete when poured for a permanent hold, the glue is plenty strong to hold back the concrete during the pour, I just don’t trust the liner track to just sit on the webs of the block for their only support

@boomersD9CAT 2 жыл бұрын

Is that a fabric type of material your using as padding under the liner? Back in the late 1980’s we started using 1/8 inch closed cell foam on the shallow end of the pools basically for the comfort factor(we build a 10” concrete wall with a 3,500 psi pea stone mix poured pool bottom)We had problems with the liner sliding/wrinkling because of the foam padding on the floor so we stopped using it after 2 seasons.

@outdoorimpressionsmi 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Keep making the videos. It’s amazing how many people have negative comments!!. They all seem to be experts.. why are they watching the video? They should making there own. Put up or shut up negative commenters.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

I think KZfaq studio blocks the really bad ones lol, I don’t mind engaging with Gunite homers since I’ve seen and worked on pretty much most pools, and I know how much more you get for the money with this method!

@squeekhobby4571 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Do you recommend a foam sheet below the slab?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

If you have any inclination to heat the pool it’s a great idea to provide thermal break with the ground! Why heat the dirt below?!

@kevinkevin9448 3 жыл бұрын

You should be part of ICF Facebook page very very informative fyi

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Which one?

@shannonvaughan4385 3 жыл бұрын

Are there plans for something like this or a “kit” that I could buy. I see you linked to several of the components but where do I get the panels and the liner? Not sure about the plumbing either. It looks doable for a diner like myself but I feel like I’m missing more details. Great vid by the way.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

I can give you a detailed material list for icf and white goods in addition to the links I provided…. That said, the channel is growing fast, too fast for me to keep up at the moment, so stay tuned and this fall I may team up with fox and Pentair and launch a site specifically for icf pools!

@grahammiller5812 6 ай бұрын

can you do a sand bottom floor ? or use rigid foam insulation on the floor?

@onjofilms 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I covered up my Pentair motor and filter. In Florida it degrades quickly in the sun.

@shaunlehmann8070 3 жыл бұрын

Plant clusia around it. Easiest plant to trim that doesn't shed and make a mess but shades and hides utilities

@doneown503 3 жыл бұрын

if I had to fill the first one, with H2O, in Las Vegas, that would be about $3,500!!

@francisperrault4097 3 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see the anchoring system for the liner and when it comes to the liner, do we have to make the pool to a specific size dimension or can we pretty much design the pool shape like we want and the liner is made according to our design? And if so, where do we order the liner from ? Much thanks !

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a typical liner track, so the liner has a bead that hangs in the track and the water pulling down locks it in, it’s crazy that it works as well as it does lol.. liners come from a few manufacturers, we use Tara liners most of the time, quick lead times, and they are made to order, the more info you give them the better they fit! Any shape or size within reason

@francisperrault4097 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 are you going to make a video with a full pool install at sone point? Skimmers, stsirs, etc etc? So far from all the videos i’ve seen, yours is the most down to earth.

@samararuder1534 2 жыл бұрын

Can a 45mm Firestone pond liner be used in a pool? Or is it not human safe?

@hilo4noff1 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, did I miss vertical rebar installation into the slab or do the walls depend on a perfectly compacted back fill to maintain their rigidity?

@warrenlawhorne 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we all missed it...goes from 2:11 with dirt walls to 2:12 with the complete wall setup and skips the entire installation process.

@thereefaholic Жыл бұрын

With no rebar in the slab I am guessing there is no rebar anchoring the walls to the floor. I think what you see sticking up out of the ICF is the plastic structure that holds the two ICF walls in place .

@lg1918 2 жыл бұрын

A “little bit ago” looks good

@odisSTURGILL 2 жыл бұрын

How did u attach liner track coping to top of icf?

@richardevans3109 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent job on your video! Are you using radius blocks in the corners? I prefer the look of 90 degree corners but am concerned about how the line will "suck up" in the corner of a 90.

@aeasthouse316 3 жыл бұрын

I was concerned about this as well. Also the junction between the slab and wall is also square, this will make it hard to clean and won’t work with a robotic cleaner. So manual cleaning only? Not convinced.

@jasonhill6074 Жыл бұрын

They use a thick vinyl slip in that is the same radius as the corner coping. Liner stretches right into it. Few different size radius for corners

@danielmiller3567 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the video, great job. Just 2 things I never seen, the floor pipe install and how did you remove the liner wrinkles in the corners? Please show it in you next ICF video. Thanks

@southernfriedkiwi6340 2 жыл бұрын

The weight of the water flattens out the wrinkles. They also vacuum sealed to decrease how many wrinkles would be there to start with.

@sourcehauntings8851 3 жыл бұрын

Please please show in-depth step by step😘😘😘😘

@knightice69 2 жыл бұрын

I really like the idea of using ICF for a pool. Question: I wonder if you could put floor heating like one can put in a garage, and connect to a water heater, or if direct water heating works better? Just a thought...

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking thermally breaking the floor with foam and putting the btus directly into the water via gas heater will work the best, once the water warms the floor it’s the same effect and it’s gotta be a more efficient transfer…. Not positive but that’s where my heads at

@DesentryD Жыл бұрын

Nice job! Wish the video was a little more in depth for us DIY crowd. Like the vacuuming part. The stairs. How you finished the tops. Etc.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

There’s two or three more that get very in depth on various parts on this channel, we are selling full build kits now as well, so you don’t have to source through multipolar suppliers!

@johnnyhopkins7297 3 жыл бұрын

How do you set blocks up the incline into the shallow and still maintain your height on the ICF forms

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

I’m shooting a more detailed install today. Probably be 3-4 weeks before I post the complete vid

@bradbrinegar1419 2 жыл бұрын

What states do you do installs in?

@kevinmccauley3877 2 жыл бұрын

pull in the light after the liner

@bigskyoffgrid8895 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder what total cost on this one was.

@jameschupp2230 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering, Do you have to drill any reinforcement rod into the Footer Slab before you do the walls? To tie the wall to the floor

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s very hard to hit the exact middle of the webs with layout, so we typically lay the first row and then drill them perfect with an add max with a long bit and then epoxy them in!

@jameschupp2230 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Ok, I was hoping so, I just didn't see it in the video. Great Job! You make it look easy! By the Way... Using ICF will help big time keep the water temperature warmer and more consistent. I think because of the insulation from the concrete walls.

@chrishallk1 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 there are so many epoxies out there so no need to set your verticals for the slab/footing pour. if you have a cold joint you can use Hydrophilic water stop between the footing/slab and wall section to waterproof that joint. just don't forget to install a keyway for the shear pressure. important. lol

@angelsantiago2673 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Bud, just subscribed... planning a build in FL. Please put in discription details you promised..lol

@allent555 3 жыл бұрын

What area of Florida?

@angelsantiago2673 3 жыл бұрын

@@allent555 Lake Nona👍

@Charlieman. 3 жыл бұрын

results look great - and you clearly know what you are doing. would be great to see more details. how did you cut and tie in the stairs? how did you shape the blocks to stack on a shaped surface and get so level? rebar? ... hope you can share more of the key details - great potential for DIY if you could

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

The one I’m working on today is a flat bottom, but it’s got the same set of stairs, I’ll try to show that part in great detail when we get to that phase and I’ll do the slope when we get to that part of the next pool

@idiniska 2 жыл бұрын

What's the model of prebuild plastic stairs block?

@scottmccrea3136 3 жыл бұрын

Why no insulation under the slab? If you have a heater you’d loose a lot of heat thru the bottom by thermal conduction. The walls are super insulated. Could you heat it easier at this point with in floor radiant tubing? Nice job!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The customer ultimately makes that decision, on the entry level pools when they are positive they don’t want to hear in the future is an easy way to save several hundred dollars... we absolutely recommend it though, one I’m building right now with pretty steep slopes is getting closed cell spray foam installed early next week!

@Paul-yy8vp 2 жыл бұрын

how did you mount the skin , what other product can you use to avoid liner dents

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Liquid nails foam and tape, only has to hold until liner goes in, then pressure of water holds it from moving!

@michaelpettit1263 3 жыл бұрын

Do you do a monopour for plaster finishes so you don't have to place a waterstop strip at the bottom of the wall joint with the slab?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Ya, plus up until recently we were putting xypex in as an admin to waterproof the concrete itself and the one piece shell is more conducive! That said we just bought an ecofinish machine and they recommend not using xypex because the epoxy cost needs to penetrate!

@JayKast 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 What were the pros and cons between using xypex and an eco finish machine? I always figured a xypex additive would be the end all, be all of waterproofing.

@justinbrown4298 Жыл бұрын

Hi. I am curious if I might be able to connect with you on the vinyl sourcing and how you work create for a loner to work. I also have a few plumbing questions. Love the videos. Can I email you direct?

@nicksulollari5898 3 жыл бұрын

Great job sir! I’m actually building one for my familly right now. I have a question about the liner track. Do you use a particular track and how do you install it? You set it in the concrete or you screw it on top after the concrete is poured? Have you done any liners over concrete stairs ?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

If you can get the aluminum bullnose that’s powder coated it’s the easiest, it’s in short supply right now…. On icf we just glue it on with great stuff liquid nails foam, take your time to set it perfect because there’s no good way to adjust once it cures…. Then before we pour the walls, we put hex head metal screws in the bottom flange like you would into a metal or plastic pool but we leave them up a bit to grab in the concrete, form the outside edge of your coping and pour it with the wall!

@noclue30 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Grest video, just would have like to see it in depth a little bit more.

@codymartin8094 2 жыл бұрын

Great job on the videos! One question. Could you pour the entire slab around the pool up to the coping at once to only have the concrete finisher come out once and make it probably easier to keep the stamp finish the same or is it important to keep the slap separate from the pool walls? We get a bit of ground frost where I live so it might move the slab a bit. Thanks!

@alfonsonieves1921 3 жыл бұрын

Dowels? Vertical re bar tying the wall to slab/footing?

@bteamshorts 3 жыл бұрын

Looked like a cold joint to me. Didn't see anything tying the walls to the floor.

@paleface3434 10 ай бұрын

What I was most curious about was the only thing that you didn’t show in the video. That was how to seal the liner with the steps!

@cuttingedgehomes9251 10 ай бұрын

I have that detail in several other vids, check the one called diy vinyl liner detailed instal

@larrymashburn7789 3 жыл бұрын

How does a robot handle the 90° corners? I guess you need to brush them?

@kevinkevin9448 3 жыл бұрын

When do u backfill after how many days and go u use helix instead of rebar ???

@joeyanderson6660 10 ай бұрын

Nice video! What are the approximate costs for such a pool With and without insulation?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 10 ай бұрын

DIY low 30’s, turnkey 80+

@johngrafton6868 11 ай бұрын

It's very important to have a smooth bottom.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 11 ай бұрын

How important?

@Ryan-ii9rx Жыл бұрын

Any reason you got an Eaytouch 8? That Superflo runs off constant power and is automated with a digital input cable, so the only thing running off of a relay is the light leaving 7 relays open. It’s nice to have extra relays for landscape lighting later on down the line, but that’s a lot of extra money spent if they aren’t going down that road. Just curious if they have other plans for the backyard.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

Lol good eye…. Have you tried getting panels lately? Unfortunately we take what we can get and I’ve had to buy 4 easy touch 8’s when 4’s would have been more than enough this year because it was all I could get…

@Ryan-ii9rx Жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Yes, we fortunately haven’t had a problem. We do shotcrete so about 90% of our pools include a spa. Haven’t had a problem getting the pool & spa combos thankfully. From what I remember we had trouble getting single bodies for a short period. Good call on going with Pentair though. Best equipment out there. Just a bit more expensive but well worth it

@RajPatel-mr7mv 2 жыл бұрын

How much does a pool like this cost?

@aricmkmkm 13 күн бұрын

Where to buy the dark blue liner and is it custom sized to the pool being constructed?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 11 күн бұрын

Yes custom, all3pools.com

@aplusdesigners 2 жыл бұрын

How durable are these pools in regards to dogs? I was considering a fiberglass pool as gunite is rough in their joints and I am just concerned about them puncturing a liner.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Ya dogs can damage a liner especially if the panic and try to climb out over a wall… but the thermoplastic stairs are bulletproof, similar to fiberglass, so if your dogs are swimming all the time and not scratching around on the walls it’s fine as the egress point is stout…. The real problem we’ve seen happens when animals that aren’t expecting to swim fall in the pool especially deer, they can easily jump most fences and fall in at night, and the ensuing panic can destroy a liner wall…. Rare but it does occur….

@rbb4445 Жыл бұрын

do you do installs or where you just showing your personal install?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

All the pools on my channel right now are our companies buiods

@mattgross2745 3 жыл бұрын

where was your #8 ground wire run with your light power?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

You should look up the 5g before insinuating it’s not there, it attaches to the back of the niche behind the wall, then a flat bond bar connects from that to the metal on the light when you set the light…. The niche is made for the light🤦🏻‍♂️

@barros1389 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t see any rebar or bonding. Do you add rebar in your concrete?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is rebar in the thickened footers and it passed bonding inspection, then they do another one on wall rebar bonding, then another on decking within 5’ of the edge, passed all 3, I’ll try to show it in future vids, just try to keep vids reasonable length

@kevinkevin9448 3 жыл бұрын

Have u ever did the stairs in icf????

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@royhi1809 3 жыл бұрын

I was a little disappointed that he didn't jump in.

@anthonycoleman8117 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the cannonball christening!????

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Lol that well water is 56 degrees…

@anthonycoleman8117 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Ah, guess we'll still be waiting then! Thanks for the reply,and btw,very "cool" video!

@jdsdesignmodeling906 3 жыл бұрын

Where do you order the liner and stairs? Is there options for custom sized liner? I did my house out of ICF and was planning on doing my pool. Thanks in advance . Great video.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

You can get thermoplastic liner stair inserts in several shapes and sizes from local suppliers or a website like sunplay.com... liners are usually custom ordered, many liner companies out there, we usually use Tara liners! We’ll keep the content coming!

@glikar1 3 жыл бұрын

Thought of the ICF method years ago, nice to see it being used. What liner thickness do you use?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

27 mil wall and floor, Tara calls it their duo max

@glikar1 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thanks man!

@scottdowney4318 Жыл бұрын

Is anyone using a spray on bedliner type idea to coat a pool surface versus using a liner? I have seen some impressive looking spray on products in videos, waterproof and strong. The ones I am talking of cure in a few seconds.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

Ecofinish is basically that, only it’s engineered and formulated to handle the submersion and chemical swings better than other coatings

@toechop 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever done or know of anyone that used icf for solar earth bermed home in northern climates. I'm interested in doing a monoslope south facing home ICF home with all glass one the southwark and bermed on the west north and east walls with hydronic floors in basement and lite deck on upper deck.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

We don’t see many berm houses in the ozarks anymore because their resale can be brutal…. That said most of the benefits of berm houses exist naturally with a traditional house built with icf…

@jamesharder5643 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never thought of energy saving potential for an ICF pool. How much would you say is saved vs a steel/vinyl liner pool when heating? Northern climate.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t have imperial data from personal pools I’ve built but hopefully after this winter I will…. The one we hooked up before last winter, which was ridiculously cold in mo, seemed like it was heating for about a third of a comparable Gunite…. But their gas was running their house and pool so hard to be sure, but the entire bill was half of what a comparable Gunite pool was costing

@jamesharder5643 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thanks

@jamesharder5643 3 жыл бұрын

@@cuttingedgehomes9251 The common method here is the steel structure with a vinyl liner. Outdoor pools aren't operational outside of mid-May to September. We have hot summers and cold winters.

@20vK 2 жыл бұрын

You can save around 80% by insulating. 14x28 pools used to cost £200 and take 5 days to heat up, 20x40 pool cost £20 and heat up overnight.

@455Olds 2 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you run separate return lines for the stairs? Also why not run another separate pool cleaner line in case they want a Polaris or something?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

There are sep return lines, 2 of them…. And they bought a Dolphin electric cleaner which probably 9/10 clients prefer, we run Polaris plumbing only when there’s an auto cover so it can run under cover

@michellemacneil9176 2 жыл бұрын

Would an 8 inch thick ICF be strong enough for a large semi inground pool in a cold climate? Pool size 10 ft by 40 ft and 5 or 6 ft deep.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@michellemacneil9176 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your time, and a very fast reply.

@islandmonusvi 2 жыл бұрын

Another thoughtful video production …but I question the long term viability of the entire system.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Curious what part of the system? Liner pools which are pretty tested snd true at this point are essentially a wall, a floor, and a liner…. Icf walls are better in every way than steel, concrete floor over vermiculite is far more durable, and we use only 27 mil liner, seems good to me but truly curious what you are seeing?:)

@lancekeirn6243 2 жыл бұрын

@Jorl Bort, what specifically makes you question the viability? Experience or book/video-learned assumptions? Not calling you out, but I'm curious if you know something about this product & process that I'm not seeing. I'd never considered a liner (based on OLD, OLD practices), but I'm now considering.

@bernardbusonick343 3 жыл бұрын

Is this type of pool supposed to last longer than a fiberglass pool or cement pool?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

If you mean vinyl liners not really, they are typically cheaper than fiberglass, and way less than Gunite and plaster pools, the big plus is when the liner wears out it’s fairly cheap to replace, higher end pools require much pricier redo’s

@d8niel77 3 жыл бұрын

Do you termite treat the slab and walls and do you put a peel and stick membrane water proof on the side of wall with back fill

@lancekeirn6243 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe soils & pests are different in MO (???), but why would you termite treat a +/- 4'>8' deep excavation under a slab?? And no wood in sight?? It's OK to keep watching the videos for the pretty colors, but leave the building for the men.

@bobkeller8383 3 жыл бұрын

How much is something like this?

@Engineer_GM_Ford_Chrysler Жыл бұрын

Whats the cost to build one of these inground pools? I am thinking about having one put in.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

You can diy one for around 30-35k, retail is about the same as conventional steel wall sand bottom liner pools with all the added structural and thermal bekifits!

@richardholt9170 Жыл бұрын

How much in material for this pool? Love to do one some day.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

We sell a kit for a pool just like that for about 19k, everything but pipe and concrete

@kevinkevin9448 3 жыл бұрын

Where do u get your pool steps from

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

You can get online or from a local pool supply store, just ask for thermoplastic liner pool steps

@noclue30 3 жыл бұрын

What is the cost?

@trunksme23 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to build this myself and then pay someone to come do the eco-finish I’ve seen in some of your new videos?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Down the road a bit…. To do eco the build details are going to be way more specific and important than liner pools!

@luckystrike656 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't you put any rebar in the "floor" concrete?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Only in the monolithic footings

@jamielee6820 3 жыл бұрын

Did the cross wrinkles come out on the wall? If not try ordering your liner a touch smaller and you won’t have them anymore.

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

Ya, the corners weren’t quite set yet

@tdmallet 2 жыл бұрын

WHO DO YOU GET THE LINER FROM? DO YOU DO THE PLANS TO THE POOL? COULD WE PURCHASE THE PLANS?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 2 жыл бұрын

Tara liner, I don’t have plans atm

@planconcrete1790 3 жыл бұрын

do you glue them to the floor?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

The foam or the liner? Yes to foam, no to liner

@GG-kc6ie Жыл бұрын

Can I ask how deep is the pool, the man said its 6 foot at the deep end but it looks much deeper than that. How tall is the guy doing the video?

@cuttingedgehomes9251 Жыл бұрын

6’

@markhealth3386 3 жыл бұрын

Just curious why no one uses a low voltage light for the underwater pool light. perhaps no one has even thought of doing that. Seems to make sense since water and electricity don’t mix well if something leaks

@cuttingedgehomes9251 3 жыл бұрын

The microbrites are, and we are switching to them whenever applicable, you need a lot more of them, but our motivation is that they seal the water out of the niche and conduit, I’ve had 25 on order for months and received 4…. It’s a weird world