Maya was projecting her experience as a teenager mother on her boy. Calling his little girlfriends fast was surely something that the neighborhood did to her when she got pregnant as a teen. She needed some therapy too. They all did
@ThisisKalaTV9 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you.
@Truthteller9789 ай бұрын
This is true
@KikiW899 ай бұрын
Toni was seeing a Therapist
@uptowngirlup31919 ай бұрын
Yeah they all did you write. I would go further and they need prayer. Yeah they know how to dress and how to express themselves but they lack Godly wisdom.
@slipknotter9 ай бұрын
exactly, joan should’ve never stopped seeing her therapist and same goes for toni. them women needed it bad.
@karleecraziness92169 ай бұрын
Darnell cheated first. There is nothing platonic about a woman feeding a man strawberries. Darnell drove me nuts
@saramatthews71599 ай бұрын
Exactly. People seem to forget about that episode and focus on Maya and Stan who only kissed. Not saying what she did was right, but I can guarantee you Darnell and that other lady were doing way more than feeding each other strawberries. Darnell was pathetic and even hooked up with a stripper the night before he was supposed to marry Lena (I think that's her name).
@user-mw9tl7mi9o9 ай бұрын
That part!!!!!
@haitianprincess2159 ай бұрын
And he gaslit her to think otherwise. She went for it and called Joan bitter cuz he denied it.
@Truemalonemusic8 ай бұрын
Facts!!!! If they did a series the details would’ve def been he was hitting that
@robinbrown22568 ай бұрын
@saramatthews7159 yes! He totally was. What he did was just as bad. He was entertaining this b!tch for God knows how long, and what married man would allow another to feed him any kind of fruit from her hand? And then he downplayed it like, she cool people, we just have lunch, it's harmless. Yeah, he hated Joan for exposing him.
@publiccoffee36529 ай бұрын
Joan needed to seriously set boundaries with her. When Mayas book blew up, she treated Lynn so shady. her superiority complex really SHOWED!
@mssassyoll259 ай бұрын
That's because Lynn was still jobless n quitting things an sleepin in people houses and didn't have anything of hers
@possiblymaybe67119 ай бұрын
@@user-vr1mw7cp2sI love Lynn but she crossed the line basically sabotaging a panel she had no business being on
@Fueunachimba9 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t like how Maya acted to Lynn in that episode at all. DO NOT GET ME WRONG!!!!!!! She had a point in what she was saying about Lynn quitting everything and doing stupid jobs when she knew what she was supposed to be doing with her life!!!! But the way she said everything was very out of line and I didn’t like it
@amandarayforever9 ай бұрын
Maya was wrong for letting Darnell disrespect Joan to cover up her affair She judged all her friends She used Joan time and time again.
@Camillatheenigma9 ай бұрын
When I rewatched Girlfriends, I realized how similar I was to Joan. Being desperate to have a man, not setting boundaries, and basically being a pushover. Seen it as having a heart to please others before myself lol, that’s why I admired characters like Toni and Maya though they had their own faults as well
@sagqueen19849 ай бұрын
Joan was crazy because Darnell would have found out that day his wife had gotten that watch from someone else. Also there is no way a man should be cursing at your friends. Our friendship would have been over at that point.
@jenniferwade78619 ай бұрын
Darnell definitely would've gotten this work and find out himself that his wife is a cheater!!
@sagqueen19849 ай бұрын
@@jenniferwade7861 exactly
@saramatthews71599 ай бұрын
Joan tolerated so much crap from that idiot Darnell. The way he treated/spoke to Joan was just uncalled for.
@alextroy92029 ай бұрын
I think he was jealous and insecure. Mad that Joan was successful and Maya was with him. @@saramatthews7159
@Karabeloved19 ай бұрын
Maya was a ridiculous for allowing Darnell to cuss Joan out when she told him Joan bought the house watch instead of Stan!
@yukijames13219 ай бұрын
That bothered me so much! Joan should have ended the friendship right there. Maya dragged her into her drama
@sparklefairy349 ай бұрын
Most of us would be *pissed* if our friends allowed their significant others to yell at us like that. Especially if we didn’t do anything wrong!
@possiblymaybe67119 ай бұрын
Darnell is the villain here at the end of the day. I can’t blame Maya. He was incredibly abusive in the first few seasons that’s literally what a woman in an abusive relationship does. Most people would cut Maya off after something like that which is what ends up isolating women who are married to an abuser. Everything emasculated Darnell she could barely breathe without him blowing up on her. No one ever holds him accountable
@rachelmartin51879 ай бұрын
They really don't. Remember that time Joan saw him with another woman and he threatened her? Honestly, the friendship should've ended right then and there.
@Kingofthenet29 ай бұрын
@@possiblymaybe6711fair point
@danielbergonzi73199 ай бұрын
For someone who brings up being Christian a lot, she was overly judgemental.
@beautelle10659 ай бұрын
Darnell was nothing but a glorified Pookie. I had to cut one of my friends off for almost the exact same situation and I didn't even know she was cheating on her boyfriend but she lied and told him she spent the night at my house and this man was so aggre$$ive and she sat there and said nothing until I let it be known she was not with me, you want to do dirt do it alone don't drag others into it and I also got my cousin to check him, some of these women don't care about their friends and will put you in situations like that and as a woman it's scary, especially when a man is approaching you in that manner, ladies protect yourself💕
@mindyourmanners37849 ай бұрын
Not a glorified Pookie lmaoooooo 😂😂😂😂 this is so true though and women like this are so male identified they could care less for their friends and only use them when they are going through things with their men
@joshuamcdowell97459 ай бұрын
Maya wasn't a good employee. She barely did any work and went behind Joan's back to work for William. Unlike Joan, William didn't put up with that mess. He fired her ass. She was very unprofessional.
@brandonbates92599 ай бұрын
He fired her ass 😂😂 William was a straight up g
@rachelmartin51879 ай бұрын
When you think about it, William was Joan's REAL friend. Yeah, he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't afraid to call out Maya, Toni, and Lynn whenever they mistreated her.
@zinhlemakh9 ай бұрын
I feel like Joan had survivors guilt in terms of all her friends. People like Maya take advantage of that very easily.
@joshuamcdowell97459 ай бұрын
Joan also didn't have a good childhood. Her parents was there but they wasn't there.
@zinhlemakh9 ай бұрын
@@joshuamcdowell9745 yup. I agree
@missmack23289 ай бұрын
@@joshuamcdowell9745yea she had no reason to feel guilty
@gatekeeper70309 ай бұрын
the way Darnell spoke to Joan always bothered me
@aahmirjoseph9 ай бұрын
I watch Girlfriends all the time and been watching since 2000. To Be honest… They all were horrible friends to each other. 😂
@rachelm.31739 ай бұрын
True!
@kandi61979 ай бұрын
That episode where Darnell cursed Joan out at her office party still irks me to this day. I hate how Joan didn't put either of them in their place in that moment, and what's worse is she brought Darnell a damn computer afterwards because she was so desperate to remain friends with Maya after she put her in that situation. Toxic behaviour and Joan should have dropped Maya as a friend and assistant after that.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Which is weird because Joan didn’t need Mya as a friend. Like I know friendships aren’t meant to be transactions but she literally contributed nothing.
@adaonwuzuruike55769 ай бұрын
Blame the script writers.
@MyGoodenessGracious8 ай бұрын
All of Joan's friends were habitual users & line crossers, William was the realest friend she had.
@trudytriad45748 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@zaire-aniyarobinson2928Ай бұрын
Facts.
@zoelletaylor78209 ай бұрын
UNPOPULAR OPINION………but MONICA was and still is my favorite character on the show. She was beautiful, sassy, witty and HONEST when it came to those toxic women. She challenged William to be more than the “fifth wheel” to their friendship and she truly wanted him to elevate in his career whether they were together or not and once she became one of the “girlfriends” she showed a lighter/more vulnerable side to her.
@iconicallyiconic9 ай бұрын
I agree! it’s something that I didn’t like about this show, they vilified any woman who wouldn’t settle for the bare minimum and who expected more than just “love” and was honest and straightforward like Toni and Monica.
@beautelle10659 ай бұрын
I agree too ! Monica was a realist and didn't accept crumbs and a lot of people hate that because they settled and know they settled
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
I agreed i didn't like Monica but i like her lol. But her fashion was on pt. She play that mean girl n finally got it together at the end or i think.
@Breonaleonard9 ай бұрын
YESS!!!
@Bob-rh4zb8 ай бұрын
when they first met her at the bar and played the name game lmaoo then they popped up on her in the hot tub threatening to call peaches lmaoo “sweetie” loved Monica they did that with the casting 😂😂
@thetruesoulofanaquarius93029 ай бұрын
Joan was better than me because I would have dragged Darnell till no end at that party. To be honest that whole friend group was toxic, fake and miserable. They were fly/pretty tho.
@iconicallyiconic9 ай бұрын
GIRLLLLLLLL who are you telling? Lmao Darnell would’ve left in shambles- they really were a hot mess express, beautiful, but a mess
@matxalenc84109 ай бұрын
Really?! It's so funny how I was watching these shows and movies when I was younger and didn't know what was happening!😂 I found out last year The Crow was about a dead man getting vengeance for his own murder. If I get the chance, I'm definitely watching Girlfriends again.
@naimahabdullah-gulley44059 ай бұрын
Spot on. During the original run, Maya was one of my faves because I thought she "kept it real". As I aged, I did start to notice the high and mighty attitude she had because she had a husband and the other ladies didn't. Maya, like many ladies who brag about their husbands, are only married because of circumstance (i.e., shotgun wedding).
@KellieCorinne9 ай бұрын
Joan should have been fired Maya fr
@meekmeek81989 ай бұрын
Exactly, William almost did because he had enough of her ish
@RaquelCGary9 ай бұрын
Honestly after watching it again as an adult, all of their characters were pretty bad. 😂😂
@MarciaRain9 ай бұрын
BUT they had the fashionssss honey. Head to toe, they all looked like vogue models. Just naturally gorgeous I really wanna recreate some of their looks
@RaquelCGary9 ай бұрын
@@MarciaRain they definitely had the fashions!
@Sondreyah089 ай бұрын
I was the same, I loved her when I was younger. Maya was funny and quick on her feet with responses. As an adult, though, I noticed she took advantage of her friends and judged them too much. I hated that episode she let Joan get cussed out by her husband because of her bad choices.
@jamaica15279 ай бұрын
Finally a good take on Maya! Even when I watched the show when I was little Maya was my least favorite. She always gets a pass for her nasty behavior because she’s just “keeping it real.” Toni is overly hated in my opinion.
@possiblymaybe67119 ай бұрын
No way omg hahaha I love all these girls but modern viewers just love Toni bc bougie black girls are in style nowadays. She was the worst friend by far objectively
@FlyGirlTee123Ай бұрын
I know it’s just a show, but the way Maya would’ve been so cut off after letting her husband chew me out about her mess. Excuse me?! Joan went through it with her friend group 😭.
@Kgthegtacreator9 ай бұрын
I hate how Joan didn’t set up boundaries especially that season when she moved in with Joan, after Darnell found Maya was cheating
@haitianprincess2159 ай бұрын
Whew! I hated how Joan let all of them use her and talk to her like she wasn’t shit when she was the most successful one.
@bagel20639 ай бұрын
Also one more thing about Maya, in the later seasons (S5 E3) when she becomes a authoress/writer and wrote her book, there was an episode with her cousin Ronnie, where she hires a white manager and gets a check advance from her book, (25k) she denies his contribution to her career and say he isn't her manager/agent after everything he did for that heifer. he asks for 10% at the end of their argument and it is revealed later on that he's been doing her hair for free every week for the last 15 years, babysitting, helped her get press for her book and supported her so much. that episode pissed me off. Maya was so ungrateful and treated him who supported her like shit. Shes offers him 10% to settle everything not even because she understood how she hurt him but to get her hair done, and he agrees to save it for jabari's college fund. Also when she did her dedication speech at her book signing, she didn't even mention him. Maya seriously just stomped over those who lifted her and supported her. but always ragged on Lynn whenever she got the chance to like calm your tits. you're living off the kindness of those around you.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Yes she went on and on about how she didn’t respect Lynn. At least Lynn appreciated what her friends did and accepted that she’s a bum and needed help . Mya act like it was knowing there for her when Joan let her stay with her. William spent so much money supporting her career coming up with the money for her school etc.
@missbel88499 ай бұрын
I only liked Maya when she had the truthful moments/was being real and put Toni in her place. When she got back with Darnell and she was honest about how controlling he was before and he actually recognized that and fixed it, that was nice to see
@alextroy92029 ай бұрын
That scene shows that Darnell is extremely insecure. He's broke and as a man couldn't stand that Joan was successfully.
@robinbrown22568 ай бұрын
He really was. I didn't like Darnell too much in the first few seasons. I found him to be pretty controlling, not to mention very resistant to any kind of change. He just expected her to stay the same as they were in High School. I didn't like that he wouldn't allow her to go back to school. He should have realized that her furthering her education would have benefitted not just her, but the whole family. But I guess that he was afraid of her moving up and then moving on from him. I liked him in the season when they got back together. They both grew as people, and were able to come back together. But I really hate how he did Lena. She really wasn't so bad a person, even though we were supposed to hate her because she was the obstacle to Maya and Darnell. Imagine being left at the alter and humiliated in front of your friends and family like that. They should have made her more of a villain, then it would be more justified.
@zaire-aniyarobinson2928Ай бұрын
@@robinbrown2256Lena was out flirting with a whole married man
@notaytguru82149 ай бұрын
Besides her unprofessional behavior was her unprofessional wardrobe. She worked in a prestigious law firm but always had risqué outfits on. Stripper heels, midriff, OTS and halter tops, Lil skirts 🤦🏽♀️
@amberreed77049 ай бұрын
I was watching the episode where she was negotiating with William to give him info about his sister and nephew/son for perks and I was so taken aback by her outfit. A super tiny mini skirt, a spaghetti strap, belly showing tank top, and a pair of ugly knee high boots. It was insane
@notaytguru82149 ай бұрын
@@amberreed7704 that episode pissed me off, she made him give her days off and access to his car to help him. She took advantage of William also. Not to mention cousin Ronnie 🤦🏽♀️
@jenniferwade78619 ай бұрын
@@notaytguru8214Cousin Ronnie was NOT playing with her😂😂😂😂
@notaytguru82149 ай бұрын
@@jenniferwade7861 yes, it was about to be a “situation” down at situations 😩
@msdeetteelaine58939 ай бұрын
@@notaytguru8214 It was crazy how Maya took advantage of poor William especially since she got a raise being his new assistant. When he finally reprimanded her unprofessional behavior after the Rev. Al Sharpton meeting she still had a bad attitude towards him! Child, William was too nice because I would have fired her right then! 🤣
@kaffy45809 ай бұрын
Maya definitely wanted Joan’s life. She felt inferior to her and you can tell by the way she treated Joan in the later season after she finally got her money up and her own house.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Yes and always throwing Joan age in her face
@jessinthecomments9 ай бұрын
Finally someone sees Maya the way I do! I don’t like Maya but she’s lost people’s favorite. I can not stand her or Lynn. I love Joan and Toni. Also, can we speak about how Jabari should’ve been living with Darnell full time when they broke up instead of staying with Maya at Joan’s.
@PrettyPrincess96099 ай бұрын
My mom was just like Maya except she was in her 20’s when she had me and my brothers. She was very judgmental, rude, envious of other women and even competed with me when I got older, a hypocritical Christian, and ghetto fabulous. My ex best friend was also like Maya as well. On the other hand, I was like Joan and unfortunately I had low self esteem, I was a people pleaser, and I was desperate for a man. I had to go to therapy after I realized I kept attracting men who used me for money and I also kept coming across “ friends “ who were only friends with me because of what I can do for them and not because they genuinely liked me. Fortunately I did meet a good guy and I decided to cut off my fake friends but I’m glad you are calling out Maya. A lot of women are fans of her because she “ keeps a real “ and don’t realize that she is a terrible friend and was the most judgmental.
@MrsFefe329 ай бұрын
Awwwwww I can relate ❤ glad you worked it out
@jazzynicole21069 ай бұрын
I can relate to this on so many levels
@Aloves0strong9 ай бұрын
Heavy on the “had no business watching it”. This show is how I first heard the word “chlamydia” and my mom was livid when I asked her what that meant 😭😭😭.
@nicolesherman89749 ай бұрын
Golden Brooks really is a doll. An effortless beauty ❤️✨✨ Oh to the hell nah, the podcast lmao
@iconicallyiconic9 ай бұрын
I always said that 🩷 she is soo gorgeous
@maureene71389 ай бұрын
love the podcast
@MakaykayLAMB9 ай бұрын
One thing about Maya tho… she was funny as hell.
@zaire-aniyarobinson2928Ай бұрын
My thing about it is didn’t Darnell cheat first?😂😂😂 why does everyone skip over that?? He was literally flirting with his co worker.
@tgirl176221 күн бұрын
@@zaire-aniyarobinson2928 I guess because they never actually catch him cheating and when confronted he never admits to doing anything other than talking they kind of leave it for the viewer to guess
@hrf19549 ай бұрын
Maya became so "classist & egregious" as she likes to call it once she became an authoress. Speaking with a British accent, being rude to people with less than her.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Literally Joan had more money than her and still was nicer smh and she always called Toni stuck up
@badbitch.imthebar9 ай бұрын
I hate how they portrayed BW on this show! yes, there are some funny moments but as an adult I really dislike this show for how they made black women look😑 like we're "desperate" for men, don't know what we want etc. Maya had some funny moments, but I don't like how they made her a caricature. Great video💓
@AmericanNiiji9 ай бұрын
Art imitates culture.
@riritheedon89679 ай бұрын
Maya is so stunning 😍😍😍
@Adrienne.Michelle919 ай бұрын
Maturing is realizing that Lynn was the least toxic out of all of them
@MsTrueTy9 ай бұрын
No Lyn was toxic too. She literally had five degrees and used Joans kindness against her. You could at least get a job in whatever field you already have and be her roommate. Nope she treated joan like a mom. 8 years in joans house is not getting it together but getting over. I would give least toxic friend to William. He was always straight forward, lowkey confident just a bit dorky. And he was even willing to help joan with the baby; when she mistaked being pregnant. William could be my friend any day.
@laraabiona9039 ай бұрын
Nahh Lynn was a moocher who took no accountability for her actions. They're all trifling.
@florencxe9 ай бұрын
Lynn who cost her parents their dream and retirement because they were too busy paying her multiple student loans? No ma’am! Lynn couldn’t afford to be problematic/rude because she relied on all of them for the basic necessities in life lol
@iashahardesty37869 ай бұрын
Lynn was my favorite one!!!! Lol
@Glassessss9 ай бұрын
Lynn sucked too. She was that type of friend who mooched off of Joan and still had something to say about her to other people like she wasn't living off of that woman. Not to mention she had no problem disrespecting her boundaries or even endangering her like that time she snuck a man (Bosco) into her house without her knowing while she was walking around topless in the safety and privacy of her house. If that dude was a real creep that could've ended badly for Joan. She was literally inviting people and animals to live at that woman's house without her permission. The only decent friend she had was William and maybe Monica to an extent due to her brutal honesty she at least told you what she was going to do before she did it without snaking you first. I have to say Monica was my favorite female character because she checked each of them effortlessly at one point in time on the show and she didn't put up with their toxic bs.
@cristinacantave23589 ай бұрын
I would've gotten Darnell together because WHO ARE YOU TALKING TOOOO
@Curlyyxoxo9 ай бұрын
0kayyyyy 🤣😭
@zainahallman94069 ай бұрын
She definitely lacked professional boundaries, but overall she wasnt worst than toni!
@lovefromwonderland9 ай бұрын
Maya is always speaking like she had her life together and knew what she was doing when she didn't know a damn thing lol. She was really judgmental towards others even though she made plenty of mistakes herself
@kymmieg61109 ай бұрын
To me, Maya could have been the grounding character cause she comes off as the "keep it real" friend but they didn't. Like she was the only friend who was married and yes her journey was complex, they could have made her more of the friend that gave sound advice. I love each character but each character has some flaws that are just annoying asf. Each of them oversteps the boundaries. I never noticed that Maya was a pick-me but she was just underline jealous all the time. Watching the series older had me take a step back because they were all toxic asf. I was happy she got into becoming an Author with her "Oh Hell No" book but they could have done a lot with her character. They dropped the ball. I love your series.
@flowerchild16949 ай бұрын
Please do Lynn! Joan really put up with way too much. None of them really loved her or was a real friend. All those sly comments should have had her putting them out like Martin.
@slipknotter9 ай бұрын
people really be overlooking Lynn’s toxicity
@Princessdollamanda9 ай бұрын
I couldn’t stand Maya! I thought I was the only one, I hated how she put Joan in that position with Darnell and how he spoke to Joan was disgusting and how she said NOTHING spoke volumes… she could have at least stepped in and said Okay Darnell that’s enough
@iconicallyiconic9 ай бұрын
Exactly! she just stood there twiddling her fingers
@Fueunachimba9 ай бұрын
She didn’t say JACK. She just stood there and when he was done she just walked away and blamed Joan for how he spoke to her!!!!!! She was unbelievable
@verifiedredbone9 ай бұрын
Yes! Women who act like that with their sons are f***ing weird and it’s disturbing. That’s your son NOT your man!
@idahouston91439 ай бұрын
I started watching the show again last month but I couldn't finish. I clearly am not the same women that I was back then.
@lamoskgr9 ай бұрын
I'm stuck on season 7
@legslikewhoa9 ай бұрын
Every time I try to rewatch, I quit earlier in the seasons.
@LaReginaPatrizia9 ай бұрын
Also, Maya had to tell Darnell Joan's business. Otherwise, why would he had said that she was bitter and could not get a man.
@nattyrocberry9 ай бұрын
The Prettiest women on TV during that time
@GoddessAsha49 ай бұрын
Darnell held Mya back because he wasn’t shit… I hated when they got back together..
@niratomas5799 ай бұрын
Maya definitely outgrew Darnell! She’s always dimming her light for him
@LaReginaPatrizia9 ай бұрын
I agree with you in that she did Joan wrong by letting Darnell think that Joan bought the watch. I would have unfriended her right then.
@possiblymaybe67119 ай бұрын
No wayyyy no way Maya is the villain in this situation u guys are crazy….. darnel feeling emasculated over being told Joan bought the watch is the issue. So weird to me how much modern viewers hate Maya
@804ten9 ай бұрын
@@possiblymaybe6711….maya is the one that cheated. Maya is the one who was married. You telling me if your married friend got you cussed out because they cheating, you would be cool with it? Just say it out loud and make it make sense 😂😂😂
@haitianprincess2159 ай бұрын
Oooh I forgot to mention how Maya’s mom talked to Joan! She was nastyyyyy! Nasty! Just talking to Joan like a peasant.
@DestinysChild-vn5hm9 ай бұрын
People stayed ganging up on Joan
@MICHELE19349 ай бұрын
I still get annoyed with the episode when Maya was getting surgery and she wanted all the girlfriends at the hospital with her. Joan showed up and sacrificed her dinner with Sean. Then Maya was mad because Joan tried to leave 😒. Like girl where’s your husband. He should be at the hospital with you. Your friends have lives outside of you. Lynn was hating on Joan too during that episode.
@spirituallife62969 ай бұрын
That episode pissed me off. On top of that, the dinner was to show Sean’s prospective employer he was in a committed relationship so he could be respected and get the job. The writers really played Joan’s character. Why did she have to stay with Maya the entire time when none of the other gfs did and none of them had plans as important as hers. She should’ve been supporting her man who was committed to her and on track for a decent career. Smh they really wrote Joan like she was wrong for ever putting her best interests first. I’m sorry I’m really passionate about this lol. & now I have to add, they wrote Joan like she couldn’t keep a man, but it was partly b/c she was always expected to put her needy ass friends first. If she would’ve went to that dinner, more than likely Sean would’ve gotten that job in LA, instead of the one he got offered in NY that broke them up
@hoodrat2799 ай бұрын
Exactly! Hell where was her mammy and her son too?
@no.63779 ай бұрын
Darnell was such a damn dusty. I couldn't stand him when I was a little girl(who had no business 😂) watching Girlfriends. I actually liked Maya for most of the time growing up, but I hated how much value she placed in being picked. Like, having a man was the most important things in her life. But the man treated her like shit.
@nicoleekay9 ай бұрын
That whole watch situation had me DONE with Maya. If I was Joan she would have been replaced IMMEDIATELY!
@mindyourmanners37849 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO! There are women like Maya who you encounter at work who are always prying and in someone's business, gossiping with other coworkers and have the most going on. You have to avoid people like this at all cost because they're draining and although Maya had some funny moments on the show because it's a tv show people like this in real life are not pleasant to be around at all they don't even know how to have fun without gossiping about others or make everything about them but Golden is beautiful, she could've been a model.
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
Darnell was cute but he was controlling smh. Especially n the later season when they got back together smh. Darnell and Maya got on my nerves .
@arieljackson10939 ай бұрын
I think she needs to do a part 2 on Mya even when she finally made some money and she got back with her husband and her husband wanted Mya to return the favor she take on all the bills while he go to school for his dreams and she low key didn’t want to do that but did it out of guilt and was low key glad it didn’t work out in his favor cause he didn’t like it
@arieljackson10939 ай бұрын
They story is definitely deep and we have dismissed a lot of things that was said and had happened in their storyline
@GoddessAsha49 ай бұрын
Yes he got on my nerves because he really didn’t forgive Maya (and I understand) it was like he was punishing her..
@jessicathierry9 ай бұрын
All three of them were terrible friends to Joan. Watch the Christmas episode when William tried to take Joan to Puerto Rico and they trashed her house because she didn’t get them better gifts. If those are friends no thank you.
@leiiib9 ай бұрын
Maya was so judgmental it was ridiculous. Then having an emotional affair with Stan telling Joan she should get with him she had the nerve to tell Joan she didnt want her seeing him anymore 🙄 lol and Darnell that man was just 🗑️ Toni will always be my fave she wasn’t settling for anyone’s dusty son lol
@mizzbre2659 ай бұрын
Except Greg but she ain’t have no choice 😅
@leiiib9 ай бұрын
@@mizzbre265 ooh that mannn chileee 🙄 lol
@mizzbre2659 ай бұрын
@@user-vr1mw7cp2s didn’t the doctor have chlamydia 😭
@Faaade_8 ай бұрын
Then years later the actress Golden Brooks was on a reality show called Hollywood Divas, and she was such a mean girl. She was awful to Countess Vaughn who is in my opinion more legendary than her. She was cruel and sharp with everyone. Now that Im grown I realize she didn't have to go too far to draw inspiration for the character Maya.
@PrincessofPower848 ай бұрын
Not surprised. She always gave off mean girl vibes to me.
@Truemalonemusic8 ай бұрын
📠
@lumilabiyi9 ай бұрын
Tbh none of them should’ve been friends at all
@whycaninotfindagood9 ай бұрын
The only person to see Maya objectively and seeing Darnell for the cornball he was. Although he did change and grow. Also really related to him discussing his control issues come from having to grow up early. I think the show did well discussing his issues and him growing. But at first, boy was a mess.
@BanquetHallManager9 ай бұрын
So, Darnell gets a pass for being a teen parent but Maya doesn't? I'm sure Maya was judgmental bcuz people were judging her being a teen mom.
@cherryb52449 ай бұрын
Lynn was my least favourite.. She was a whole BUM but in nice clothes. She got on my nerves.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
No literally ironic that she had the most degrees and was over qualified for certain jobs
@JusHaja9 ай бұрын
And had several degrees and didn't do anything about it
@nonelikememe9 ай бұрын
All the friends were bad. Unfortunately Joan was the worse because she was weak and, allowed her sorry friends to take advantage of her.
@rachelmartin51879 ай бұрын
Even though Joan was a control freak, at least she had the gutta to own up to her wrongdoings. Lynn, Toni and Maya always had blame someone else.
@zaire-aniyarobinson2928Ай бұрын
I’m ngl Joan remind me of me💀. I just know to cut ppl off and be alone. 😂😂😂
@TrinaRayne9 ай бұрын
This! I’ve been said this about Maya, and she’s my least favorite girlfriend too. That one episode where Joan tried to plan Maya’s and Darnell’s wedding, and Maya had a meltdown because she was insecure. Plus she was a bad employee, and an all around bad friend too. Like, how are you going to involve your friend in your mess involving Stan? Like she was just classless. Tbh, all of Joan’s friends were trash.
@likhwezititus9 ай бұрын
Shes the reaspn Tony never went on that date with Idris Elba cause she went and blabbed to Todd...ugh
@ofentsemoremi719 ай бұрын
Maya was jealous of Joan that’s why she made those snide comments to Joan. And kept putting her down as a way to “humble “ her
@eternallyeveve9 ай бұрын
can you explain, i’m kinda brand new to watching the show
@IDFK__9 ай бұрын
I liked Mya, at times her character got on my nerves! She was inconsiderate and self centered at times. I especially couldn’t stand when they had her get back with her ex… I wish the writers had her move on to someone better than Darnell, he didn’t support her dreams of going back to school and he was toxic af… Gross 🙄
@d.johnson1109Ай бұрын
I never understood why Maya had to bring her son to work. It’s not like he was an infant or toddler. He was like 9 or 10 yrs old so shouldn’t he had been in school??? That didn’t make any sense to me.
@dameinmontgomery7623Ай бұрын
@@d.johnson1109 it could have been summer time
@valeriemanful250724 күн бұрын
@@d.johnson1109 I think it was because during that time it was summer so school wasn’t in session
@ArianaWoods1129 ай бұрын
Bruh finally!!! I always say this and people always say Maya was just real. Nobody could handle her realness. She’s my least favorite character.
@ArianaWoods1129 ай бұрын
And it’s funny, because I feel like Tony’s character gets better as the seasons go on am I is character gets worse. In the first season she was there for Joan, and had her back and was a pretty decent person, but as time went on, if she was always rude to people, and started bad mouthing Joan when she started working for William. Of course, it was annoying how she always do in their face that she was married but other than that she was OK.
@latajamoy349 ай бұрын
She was no friend!!! She was two faced and walked all over William who only tried to help her get ahead in life that was wrong!!!
@Leedominiq9 ай бұрын
Bro like. Maya is literally the enemy of the friend group bc she hates herself & her choices fr
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
No literally people say Joan and Toni were the most toxic but it was most definitely maya and Lynn
@britneys.14458 ай бұрын
I like the Girlfriends show but the girls in this group aren't good friends. Lynn is a moocher. Toni is beyond selfish. Maya took advantage of Joan to get out of actually working and facing the consequences of her infidelity. And Joan actually wasnt the worst friend but she was an enabler and became jealous when she saw her friends happy in successful relationships. It's not a healthy friend group in the slightest.
@jalaaaah8 ай бұрын
and crazy thing is, she actually would do worst when she worked for william!!
@milaakajau8619 ай бұрын
Not the "Faded Pictures" song lmaooooooo I am in tears 😂the shadeeee 😂😂😂😂 I would've liked if Maya had moved on to better because Darnell was not it although I wasn't a Maya fan I think she deserved better than that manchild.
@meiday1549 ай бұрын
I would have beat Maya and Darnell's ass bc how dare he talk to Joan like that? He was broke and mad he was broke and made it everyone's problem. I agree, Maya should have been fired and put out of the friend group immediately. Sidenote: Joan having boundary problems was the crux of the show. Joan had her issues but I'll say 60% of it was because people were walking over her like a cheap rug and Joan had to deal with the aftermath
@charenzo959 ай бұрын
I remember getting furious watching that whole saga. Even back then as a young 20 something I recall me and my bestie making fun of Darnell's dusty ass. We'd already encountered losers like that who couldn't compete in the world with other men AND women and his low self esteem always had him lashing out. I would have told him if I want a man I can BUY one. Can you say the same? 😂
@jeremy7439 ай бұрын
I loved her comebacks and jokes 🤣 I think I like her because I wish I could be like that in defending myself/other people.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Omg yes it never sat right with me the way Darnell talked to Joan over Mya cheating ass. Darnell talked to Joan like shd was a man he wanted to fight. Joan better than me because I would’ve fired Mya and cussed Darnell out.
@Chani-uk4wf8 ай бұрын
It pissed me off when she had the audacity to tell Joan not to see Stan. She had no business or authority to do that when she was a very married woman. Joan and Stan were single and didn't need anyone's permission to date each other, especially Maya of all people. The only man Maya could say Joan wasn't allowed to see was her own husband. If my married friend told me I couldn't see someone because she wanted to have an affair with him (even if it was just emotional), we would never be friends again.
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
It was funny when she said yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeessssss this is my house lol 😂
@bougiegirlK9 ай бұрын
Speak the truth!!! so many people struggle with setting boundaries with people and if it’s not taught to you as a child then some people don’t know how to navigate when it comes to boundaries. The fact that Darnell called Joan a b to Maya when talking about Joan and she didn’t check him was out of order she was definitely a pick me and his temper was scary I’m sorry idc what anyone says 🤷🏽♀️ because like you said it’s those little red flags that some women ignore and then it goes further especially with him secluding her from her friends because he thought Joan bought her a watch 😕
@meekmeek81989 ай бұрын
Agreed. She pissed me off more than a few times.
@TheRetroWoman809 ай бұрын
The fact that you have the Angel In Disguise instrumental playing in this video is cool with me.
@samonejohnson7169 ай бұрын
Amazing song
@JoanRudith9 ай бұрын
Maya really did what was displayed and romanticized to her growing up, trying to be this ride or die-I know how to keep my man- woman, and I think it’s important that we saw how it unraveled for her by her own hand. She wanted to try something other than what she was taught was the ultimate goal for a moment.
@valeriemanful250724 күн бұрын
I did not like Darnell and the first few seasons, but later on him and Maria’s relationship, they get better so I grew to really like him
@Ariescertified9 ай бұрын
Great video I can’t wait for the Joan breakdown she was a mess but I love Joan she has a special place in my heart lol. Maya has always annoyed me and my least favorite character… Also she was a bad mother lol never with her child. Especially when Jabari got to be a teenager she was so selfish and didn’t bother to create a healthy bond with her son, she was always blaming him even when she assumed he had weed in the drawer..
@londynk10859 ай бұрын
same people always say toni but joan was always my personal favorite. she wasn’t too much this or too much that, she was a nice balance. n she was always the most relatable for me.
@ashleyb.82179 ай бұрын
We need a William video too, he was an honorary problematic girlfriend.
@haitianprincess2159 ай бұрын
Whew! I couldn’t stand Maya when the series started and I can’t stand her still. She’s always been a pick-me who used any chance she had to disrespect and belittle everyone of her friends but yet when she was down and out, they supported her just for her to get back on her feet and talk down to them again. That episode with the watch got under my skin cuz how would Darnell know Joan could get a man? Pillow talk from Maya? I HATE women who tell their man their friends personal business.
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
and he got it wrong Joan could get a man she just couldn’t keep them those men bevy she ran them off with her crazy ways and even than those men stayed longer than I would cause Joan was crazy
@Truemalonemusic8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t standdddd Darnell!!!!! He was a do as I say not as I do type of husband. Too close minded, was disrespectful to Myas friends, and just very negative. I was happy when she was getting attention but then I felt bad because Joan was yet again in the middle of foolishness. I would’ve BEEN cussed his ass out.
@reesewiltz8 ай бұрын
Darnell did not want Maya want to grow. In his eyes, she was still that teenage girl that he married and they simply grew apart. I’m glad they were able to get back together but they needed couples therapy BAD!
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
But lynn was no better you need to do lynn she was a hot mess smh.
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
@itebohenglangeni7922 lol i can't lol and please check me out too #DisneyDiva
@Adrienne.Michelle919 ай бұрын
@@Nahdide467 not really. Lynn just needed to get her 💩 together and stop being a mooch. Toni was the worst one
@Kgthegtacreator9 ай бұрын
She used to take advantage of Joan and I hate how Joan didn’t stand up for herself
@KikiW899 ай бұрын
@@Nahdide467 Toni slept with Joan dude Toni and Maya used to go Head to Head with Joan Lynn was very Smart had hella Degrees but she was a Freeloader that's all
@jaythegreat20749 ай бұрын
a girlfriends deep dive i’m so happy abt this, my fav show ever
@camgeorge62228 ай бұрын
Even as a kid i saw darnell as a broken loser that kept holding maya back.
@meghan229 ай бұрын
I hate to say this...but after watching Hollywood Divas, life imitates art !
@_.BeBe._9 ай бұрын
Yes! She was so judgmental towards Countess Vaughn
@possiblymaybe67119 ай бұрын
@@_.BeBe._she was acting
@DestinysChild-vn5hm9 ай бұрын
That episode when jabari was hurt and ran away from home is the one when maya got on my nerves the most because jabari was obviously angry and upset and she got mad at his attitude and grounded him and it took for the boy to run away for her to get it when all she had to do was ask him what's wrong and be more concerned about him being okay instead punishing him
@pennypenny3769 ай бұрын
"Darnell" always and immediately gave "Ike Turner vibes." If I cared enough about him, he'd b on my top 10 TV villains list.
@rachelmartin51879 ай бұрын
Omg same. I remember there was an episode where he hit Maya, but it was swept under the rug.
@ashleylarose74739 ай бұрын
I’m so glad we’re finally talking about this. Maya was my least favorite girlfriend. She had her funny moments but overall she sucked. She gave me hater vibes. Instead of working on herself to get to her friends’ levels, she put them down and took from them every chance she got. I felt crazy watching the show and being the only one in my personal life with the opinion that Maya’s character was not someone I would want to be friends with in real life. But I only watched the show as an adult (never saw it growing up) so that could be why I felt this way. I didn’t have any nostalgic attachment to the show so I just took it for what it was. I loved the show though
@jazzynicole21069 ай бұрын
My sentiments exactly!!!!!! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who didn’t like Maya’s character, especially when she lied on Joan
@barbiesinspiration87999 ай бұрын
Yesssss!!!! she was definitely one of those weird "boy moms", these are the men you have to stay clear of when they're older because their mothers are too involved in their life and always believe their son could do no wrong and if their son is a good man it makes them so jealous because they didn't have that🙄 they basically want their sons in a weird way to be the husband they never had. Maya was unbearable I can't even watch the show because her character annoys me so much. There's a certain group of women who like Maya that I stare clear of 😴
@itzallaboutmeee55069 ай бұрын
Can you please do Lynn and Joan as well! I want to see you do the whole friend crew!!!
@Glassessss9 ай бұрын
Can you do one on Monica? I think for a side character that became a main (the unofficial 6th girlfriend.) she was a decent character with character growth. She wasn't perfect (putting up with Williams disrespect and neglect. She should've never gotten back together with him imo), but I think she was like a better, more mature mix of Toni and Joan and her reads were epic!
@amorelockster10239 ай бұрын
Yes and she most definitely put them in their place at times because they were so used to talking to each other however and doing the most
@meiday1549 ай бұрын
When I was a kid I don't remember liking Monica but when I became an adult I realized that Monica was one of the few people in the show with a spine. The William bs aside 🙄 Monica stood on her shit
@jessicaolagunle9 ай бұрын
Who needs enemies when you have friends like this? SMH
@derronking58129 ай бұрын
You definitely should’ve played what Toni said after that … “Who is Jabari?” 🤣🤣🤣
@Breonaleonard9 ай бұрын
And Lynn was such a bum😩 Do her next😂
@smome77739 ай бұрын
A tremendous oneeee frl....maybe its the inflation however i cant imagine the amount of money they spent to keep her alive. She was basically the whole group's kid.
@phoebethomas30279 ай бұрын
OMG her character was so boring whenever the episodes were mainly about her I always used to skip it. When I found out that her character was based in her real life it’s just annoyed me more. Such a waste!
@zaire-aniyarobinson2928Ай бұрын
I didnt understand it bc she had multiple degrees.