Sedation in ICU Patients (Part 2) - ICU Drips

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This is the 2nd lesson covering sedation in ICU patients. In the last lesson we talk about what sedation was, as well as covered the various different reasons that we would use sedation, and finally covered the ways in which we monitor our patients on sedation in the ICU including the RASS scale.
In this lesson we take a look at all the medications and categories of medications that we use for ICU sedation. We start out talking about the 4 different categories that these medications fall in to. The first, being the benzodiazepams. These medications are all GABA receptor agonists and share a lot of unique traits. The 3 medications all very in the length of their duration, Midazalam (Versed) being short acting, Lorazapam (Ativan) being intermediating acting, and Diazepam (Valium) being long acting. Valium is also the only one that we don’t give continuous IV, and Versed is one of our most common ICU drips for sedation.
Next we quickly talk about the neuroleptics, which are not used as continuous IV drips, but do fall in this class of sedation medications. We quickly mention about Haloperidol (Haldol) and Quetiapine (Seroquel) and how they are good options for treating delirium.
The next category that we talk about is the barbiturates. These aren’t a commonly used group of medications, but they hold a special place when it comes to helping patients with high ICPs or unmanageable seizure activity. The one medication that we use here in a drip form is a medication called Pentobarbital and so we cover this and its associated doses.
The final category that we talk about is a group of 3 medications that are all quite different from one another and we call them the “other” or “miscellaneous” medications. The meds in this category are Propofol (Driprovan), Dexmetatomadine (Precedex) and Ketamine. We talk about the unique properties of each of these medications, show the special cases which make each of these different medications ideal in certain cases.
Hopefully after watching this lesson you will have a good basis of understanding of the different categories of ICU sedation medications, as well as the medications that are a part of each category and some of the defining characteristics of each and how they all differ from one another, yet are often used for the same purposes.
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As an RRT student, I love looking at not just respiratory but also other types of medications my patients are on. I'm learning so much from you! Knowing what each drip does and what are the side effects help me understand why my patient's labs may look a certain way or why their respiratory system may be affected as well. Thank you!
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great talk!!! however in the ketamine discussion you said without LOC but showed with LOC (c vs s).
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Congrats Ashish!!
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@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
Truly my pleasure to be able to help. Glad you enjoy them and best of luck. You are almost there!
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@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@javiergaona215
@javiergaona215 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Eddie, thanks for the video it was very well done and the information is concise. I wanted to ask you to make video regarding sedation vacay (sedation vacation), SBTs, extubation etc. Maybe I missed it, but I was looking through your videos and I haven't found it. Thank you. -Javi
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Javi, thank you so much for the awesome comment and taking the time to do so. Your suggestion is a. good one and also one that I've received before. And you are correct that I haven't done one yet. I have added it to the todo list for a future lesson! Thank you for taking the time to comment and for the suggestion!
@johnmerritt3331
@johnmerritt3331 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@haliShanna
@haliShanna 4 жыл бұрын
wow...great explained. Thanks
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@marizcultivo9839
@marizcultivo9839 Жыл бұрын
hi Eddie, Its very informative video lesson. Is it ok if you can make a video about conscious sedation?, thanks a lot. Im sharing your videos to our trainees.
@ICU_NERDSE
@ICU_NERDSE Жыл бұрын
with each video watched, Im giving a thumbs up and a comment! thank you
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@ianshelton6662
@ianshelton6662 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for educating us and bringing up the blood levels it's interesting to see how certain meds change a person's internal chemistry. I have never seen a triglyceride blood test performed for outpatient propofol sedation during dental procedures or in oral surgeons' general anaesthetics. Maybe this will be a new requirement for office and hospital-based Anaesthesia.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
Not really necessary to monitor triglycerides for short term use. More for longer duration infusions, like days.
@jonathanlopez9797
@jonathanlopez9797 2 жыл бұрын
so great!! I wish you could also include how it's metabolized not to be too picky lol but great content amazing!!
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in hindsight, that probably would have been good to include.
@nataliayoung3734
@nataliayoung3734 4 жыл бұрын
The draw back, is sedation, in ICU, can sometimes cause PICS, which is post ICU syndrome.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct Natalia. There are certainly potential negative consequences for using sedation and should certainly always be considered when using. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
@raverkidloki
@raverkidloki 7 ай бұрын
What are the potential effects?
@lolwealego6951
@lolwealego6951 3 жыл бұрын
It was very useful Thank you so much
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this!
@keiffhalleck9122
@keiffhalleck9122 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@florsk2439
@florsk2439 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@marjanmathilda1475
@marjanmathilda1475 Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@adrianagonzalez-oc5lh
@adrianagonzalez-oc5lh 9 ай бұрын
Thank you sm!
@Wilson-ol4pe
@Wilson-ol4pe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mirfathassan964
@mirfathassan964 2 ай бұрын
thanks
@sugahillind
@sugahillind Жыл бұрын
awesome video
@uraiseesamchan3465
@uraiseesamchan3465 4 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you!
@victoriagoods8557
@victoriagoods8557 3 жыл бұрын
Positive: you speak clear and even pace which makes easy to follow you and understand easily. Neutral : maybe the dosages discussed first and a bit more info on each medication. Negative: my goodness one should type or write larger and more clearly. I paused video way more often than should to ensure proper spelling while taking notes. Back to positive: thank you for taking the time to create your videos and sharing with the world.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I do plan on doing a series coming up soon with a quick lesson dedicated to 1 medication. Also the writing I've gotten that feedback a lot so since then I've worked to make my writing bigger as a lot of people tend to watch on mobile devices I've found out.
@doristhecoder765
@doristhecoder765 3 жыл бұрын
Informative!
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@samwarren7740
@samwarren7740 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you explain the role of fentanyl in terms of sedation? I have sometimes seen fentanyl used with versed or fentanyl with propofol? Thanks
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
So our pain meds work synergistically with our sedation and together can lead to decreased usage of both. The main takeaway though is that when patients are sedated, it obviously becomes hard to determine if they have pain, thus we have to look at vitals and other indicators to try and determine if they have pain. Especially for things that we would expect pain, we should expect to have pain meds along with sedation.
@samwarren7740
@samwarren7740 3 жыл бұрын
@@ICUAdvantage Thanks!
@munganiayvonne3548
@munganiayvonne3548 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so so much ❤️❤️
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@LoanTran-hi1po
@LoanTran-hi1po 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@1231crazymonkey
@1231crazymonkey Жыл бұрын
Hey Eddie new ICU nurse here, I recently had a patient going through severe ETOH withdrawal on a vent on multiple sedation drips. I know our RASS goal is normally 0 to -1 sometimes -2 or as ordered by our physicians, but for this patient I had difficulty titrating to a RASS that would keep them on track to a RASS closer to -1 while preventing them from awaking to a RASS of 2(agitation). In these moments, to prevent self-extubation and other harm to the patient, would a higher level of sedation to a RASS of -3 or -4 be acceptable since every moment of wakefulness the patient is agitated?
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's definitely times that we how lower RASS goals for these patients, but depending on how easily they are awaking to agitation, one could also argue they maybe really aren't a -1.
@danguyet2176
@danguyet2176 7 ай бұрын
Can you turn on the subtitle please? English isn't my first language so that it's hard for me to understand all the things you said.
@Thumperwrestler
@Thumperwrestler 4 жыл бұрын
A15:36 you said ketamine "does this withOUT loss of consciousness" yet wrote with LOC.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes! You are right! Should have been an 's'!!! Thanks for the good catch!
@mariatabacaru3168
@mariatabacaru3168 3 жыл бұрын
How is the lipid composition of propofol affecting microbes growing in the IV tube?
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
They provide a source of food for any potential microorganisms that may make their way in due to contamination. Better breeding ground than if it was just a normal medication.
@mariatabacaru3168
@mariatabacaru3168 3 жыл бұрын
@@ICUAdvantage i see, thank you!!!
@Man-ee7vi
@Man-ee7vi 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I really like your class and write a note for each class. But could you do another style of writing so that it may be easy to see please? Thanks.
@Mommyofcurlies
@Mommyofcurlies 2 жыл бұрын
I can't see it either. It's like neon lines and that's about it.
@ciroteixeira451
@ciroteixeira451 Жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this Ciro!
@candice-leeclifton3019
@candice-leeclifton3019 2 жыл бұрын
What are the chances that one can suffer sedation overdose from the hospital in ICU. I have a sneaky suspicion that my husband lost his life this way a week ago? Do I insist on an autopsy or will his medical records show this?
@ridsy9342
@ridsy9342 Ай бұрын
this is very unlikely as a classic overdose is characterized by respiratory failure. In the ICU, patients sedated are mechanically ventilated through an artificial and secure airway also know as the ETT or breathing tube. The ventilator usually is set at a specific respiratory rate which would prevent this from happening. Now overdose scientifically refers to drug toxicity, which would also be shown in autopsy. You could request toxicity screens if you would like; however, this would also reflect on the patient’s labs since organ failure(s) would be present and practitioners would see clear signs. In other words, this is all very unlikely.
@sararamirez2355
@sararamirez2355 4 жыл бұрын
What would be a good RASS score for a vented patient?
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Really depends. If theres no physiological reason to have them at a certain level, then ideally we'd like 0. Awake, alert and calm. But not everyone can tolerate this so really the closest to zero with the patients comfort and then physiological considerations in mind. -1 to -2 is common.
@marilynNV
@marilynNV 3 жыл бұрын
I like to reduce sedation to the minimum a patient can tolerate, but some of my collegues think its cruel and will turn up the drips to make the patient sleep. The result is a longer readaptation process, am i right? And increased Risk of delirium, wich should be avoided at all cost in my opinion.
@ruthanna4713
@ruthanna4713 2 жыл бұрын
@@marilynNV that really depends on the patient's condition and presenting pathology. And depends highly on which kind of sedative you have running. If you want a patient to be alert but it is necessary to run relaxants, it certainly would be cruel. Being awake, but not being able to move is not fun. The half vivid state of RASS - 2 to - 3 is also a tough one to go through, if you are confused and stressed out because of it. Something that can be an early indication of delirium, e.g. coming out of long trauma surgery, with prolonged low cerebral perfusion. It really depends.
@user-ck9tu2me8l
@user-ck9tu2me8l 2 жыл бұрын
can i clarify, why you do not include fentanyl ?
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
That's analgesic not sedative.
@ticks4ticks4
@ticks4ticks4 Жыл бұрын
@@ICUAdvantage True! But this opioid analgesic does, in fact, have sedating effect! That being said, even morphine can be used as a sedative "chemical restraint" for certain cardiac patients.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage Жыл бұрын
@@ticks4ticks4 Im certainly not saying it doesn't have sedating properties. But it is not classified as a sedative, and this lesson was on those medications. Fentanyl was covered in the analgesic lesson.
@banirupadattachoudhury7476
@banirupadattachoudhury7476 3 жыл бұрын
Lost my Dad to Covid last week. He was diabetic, high BP, but both were under control...on 14th day of low grade fever and no other symptoms, he all of a sudden started desaturating and before we know, he was under invasive intubation for the next 12 days before he passed. I wanted to know whether he was under pain despite under heavy sedation during his stay in the ICU...we are actually shattered at the sudden loss...specially my Mother...a 54 year partnership...my Dad turned 83 this May. Kindly reply
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your dad! 😢 This is all so tough on so many people and it pains me to see all of this. My thoughts are with you and your family. We do everything to ensure our patients aren't suffering while they are going through whatever they are dealing with and I'm sure this was also the case for your dad too.
@scrapbookedmemories7736
@scrapbookedmemories7736 2 жыл бұрын
Mid-daz-o-land for Versed. ReVersed for Romazicon LOL
@JGPRAISINGOD
@JGPRAISINGOD 4 жыл бұрын
Info was very beneficial in the video! I am prepared for the resurgence of ketamine!
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Me too! It's such a great drug with a lot of great uses! Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment.
@marilynNV
@marilynNV 3 жыл бұрын
On my experience, Ketamine is known to cause extreme bad trips and out of body feelings. Very surprised to Read your comment. Can you explain further?
@ashishlakhera5752
@ashishlakhera5752 3 жыл бұрын
Midazolam lowers patients BP.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it can, but is much less than others.
@michaelburatovich3199
@michaelburatovich3199 3 жыл бұрын
Ketamine is also a drug of abuse and some people who receive ketamine can get hooked on it.
@marciachristie6079
@marciachristie6079 3 жыл бұрын
I am Marcia
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcia!
@tammybrantner4164
@tammybrantner4164 2 жыл бұрын
All the sudden in the pan
@ktie28
@ktie28 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Michael Jackson on propofol infusion "as a sleep aid" without an artificial airway?! Yikes.
@ICUAdvantage
@ICUAdvantage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah crazy!
@moradzayed
@moradzayed 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
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