Ideologies in HOI4

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sejozwak

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Hello, In today's video I will try to come to a conclusion on which ideology is the best in vanilla hoi4.
I believe I covered everything that is affected by the Ideology in Hearts of Iron IV. If you think otherwise, point it out in the comments. Like share and subscribe if you enjoyed the video and if it was helpful, if it was not, sorry for wasting your time.
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@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark Жыл бұрын
Nonaligned Generic Country: Worthless Country with a monarchist focus tree: OP as hell, gets loads of bonuses and war goals to conquer whole continents.
@toxin2396
@toxin2396 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the bunch of focuses that give you free land without going to war too
@ivankopernika536
@ivankopernika536 Жыл бұрын
Nah it's better than starting off democratic or communist or fascust as generic countries, you can take 7% recruitable population from militarismand still go communist with it
@dylanplumley280
@dylanplumley280 Жыл бұрын
Non-Alighted needs more love. We just need more ideologies. Monarchist as an example.
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 10 ай бұрын
Absolute monarchism is already covered under the Non-aligned sub-ideology of Despotism. It's not significant enough by itself. What _should_ be split off from Non-aligned to be its own ideology is Anarchism.
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Жыл бұрын
I never knew about the sub-ideology opinion boost lol, was confused on why sometimes it was 10 and sometimes 20
@hawksnebula1506
@hawksnebula1506 Жыл бұрын
The thing is though Stanley Baldwin was a conservative and France was liberal so I don't see how that translates to this rule if they have +20 modifier.
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@hawksnebula1506 i think it's bugged, I'm pretty sure it changes to conservative after he retires
@dryhad9253
@dryhad9253 Жыл бұрын
@@hawksnebula1506 In game, Baldwin is scripted as a liberal. My best guess is they did this originally because he was a Market Liberal in HoI3 (where the political spectrum is defined totally differently) and never bothered to change it even after giving him the "Conservative Grandee" trait. Since subideologies are so unimpactful, it's perhaps unsurprising that even Paradox isn't very consistent with them. Trotsky is a Leninist when he's in Mexico but a Marxist when he's in Russia. Ismet Inonu has one of 5(!) different possible subideologies depending on how you progress down the Turkish focus tree. And even Pierre Laval in the example is questionably identifiable as liberal, since he was a socialist in his early career and a fascist collaborator in Vichy.
@hawksnebula1506
@hawksnebula1506 Жыл бұрын
@@dryhad9253 Ok thanks for clearing that up and also thats insane about Trotsky's ideology + Laval
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@dryhad9253 can you make Ismet anarchist by any chance?
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 Жыл бұрын
Anarchists irl: hate centrism monarchies and oligarchies Anarchists in hoi4: likes them for some reason
@babaooeyman9277
@babaooeyman9277 Жыл бұрын
Well to be fair they kinda dislike everyone else
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 Жыл бұрын
@@babaooeyman9277 they dislike everyone tbh
@babaooeyman9277
@babaooeyman9277 Жыл бұрын
@@Prauwlet213 Yeah, actually come to think of it no ideology really comes to mind that a true anarchist could be considered any sort of friendly to
@pmcshow44
@pmcshow44 Жыл бұрын
@@babaooeyman9277 other flavors of anarchism, maybe libertarian enough democracies.
@danielschnitzer7044
@danielschnitzer7044 Жыл бұрын
@@babaooeyman9277 Anarchists are almost always on pretty good terms with Left Communists and Democratic Socialists
@scriptmore
@scriptmore Жыл бұрын
technically you can puppet as a democratic nations by annexing a nation and then releasing it through one of the dlcs i forgot the name of
@scriptmore
@scriptmore Жыл бұрын
although this only really works when you have like 95% of war participation as if you're playing as the uk and is in a war with germany with france as your ally france will probably do a supervised state on germany
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
True, I forgot that, still I think it would be just a puppet
@scriptmore
@scriptmore Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak pretty sure no further appeasement in the uk focus tree allows for that but it'd be better if it was available for all democracies
@Hoi4291
@Hoi4291 Жыл бұрын
Dlc is tfv
@albertytube5547
@albertytube5547 9 ай бұрын
It’s called a Supervised State, and it’s different from other ideological puppets because it will actually gain autonomy over time and eventually become independent. (And also, you can’t build anything in them)
@titosyettos2689
@titosyettos2689 Жыл бұрын
Man, Taureor has really changed
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
His son grew up so fast didn't he
@Qwerka
@Qwerka Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak Make a bideo with him 🥴
@BrandyLark
@BrandyLark 9 ай бұрын
I really wish Paradox followed suit with many popular mods by having an expansive ideology list. For instance having fascism separate from national socialism or Marxism separate from Stalinism. At least adding two more ideologies would give so much more diversity to countries instead of just 4 choices.
@sejozwak
@sejozwak 9 ай бұрын
no thanks
@n3ct0d2
@n3ct0d2 Жыл бұрын
I prefer non-alignet because that's that you cannot bring it back makes this ideology unique in some ways
@iloveallah5960
@iloveallah5960 Жыл бұрын
Lowest time to justify[i guess?] Target:core as fascist Russia[-50%] While at major[-80%] Target at major war[-75%] Nkvd primacy[-50%] Backroom backstaber[-25%] WT100[-50%]
@iloveallah5960
@iloveallah5960 Жыл бұрын
Highest pp gain per day is Germany[I guess?] with 5.34/day
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
That is Soviet union, you can't do that as communist Paraguay
@iloveallah5960
@iloveallah5960 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak That's not related to ideology I was asking if I am right?
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@iloveallah5960 There is also, when nation you are justifying against is lend leasing or sending volunteers to your enemy
@whenyoucantfindaname
@whenyoucantfindaname Жыл бұрын
how do you have NKVD and Backroom Backstabber as Fascist Russia also there is Assisting Enemy(-25%)
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
Communists have -30% puppet cost though so depending on the circumstance, they can get more puppets than fascism. So it's not 99% of all cases, but fascism puppets are still usually better. There's a lot of stuff in this video I could point out, but I've already done that enough on discord. Also, chad for actually making the video.
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
If you are alone in the PD, that does nothing, if you are not alone in the PD that barely does anything, yeah sure you can puppet cheaply, but you get nothing whatsoever from those puppets, besides manpower and resources which fascists get more of anyway
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Also puppet cost is insanely irrelevant for fascist too, you can puppet nations in one state, then manually give them those states during the peace deal
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak If you are alone ye
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak Its still situational
@joikaboela8849
@joikaboela8849 Жыл бұрын
I only resently discowered this channel, its so good even if it is rater small atm. hope he gets more subs etc soon, he deserves it. keep up the good work dude
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, glad u discovered me xD
@LachlanKitching
@LachlanKitching Жыл бұрын
class video and i learned things i didnt know after 5000 hours
@nicodemus7774
@nicodemus7774 Жыл бұрын
Gamerism
@pmcshow44
@pmcshow44 Жыл бұрын
That's just fascism
@georzonna
@georzonna Жыл бұрын
That’s Burgundian system
@bigbasedman
@bigbasedman Жыл бұрын
basically the ideoligies imo: communism: ideology for big chonky industry fascism: ideology for war democratic: harder to fight wars non-aligned: either really bad nation or OP af kingdom
@riko_z9962
@riko_z9962 Жыл бұрын
That democratic blue+ orange hurts my eyes
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
I am sorry, I went for colors of ideologies, and letters were the opposite colors
@seamusfinnegan1164
@seamusfinnegan1164 Жыл бұрын
Democracies only saving grace is you can be some strong nations and do some strong focuses with democracy.
@Brian_i
@Brian_i Жыл бұрын
I think they should actually show the subgroups in game, like how the mods do.
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 Жыл бұрын
I thought this video was a community post because of the dark grey border of the video. (KZfaq dark mode). So I clicked it to see a bigger image. Excellent strategy.
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Lol, I didn't even plan that, thanks for the idea tho
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak I fear this might start an irritating but successful trend.
@johenlo9564
@johenlo9564 Жыл бұрын
Non-aligned should be buffed
@hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger
@hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger Жыл бұрын
Indeed, there is literally no reason whatsoever why non-aligned nations shouldn't have "state serves the military" as a spirit of the army (officer corps) trait...
@Qwerka
@Qwerka Жыл бұрын
Or just add Anarchist and Monarchist
@viligerm6592
@viligerm6592 18 күн бұрын
We should be able to flip to nonaligned, like hiring the staunch monarchist in Hungary
@user-ym5ge6um5g
@user-ym5ge6um5g Жыл бұрын
Довольно интересно
@alexionut.05
@alexionut.05 Жыл бұрын
12:55 Media Personality trait makes your generals more likely to gain attack and defense on level up, arguably the two best skills on a general. It's an excelent trait! Besides, how often are you going to cycle your generals for the debuff to really matter?
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
I didn't know it affects it lol
@alexionut.05
@alexionut.05 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak yup, as far as I know all (or most) personality traits affect the likeliness of getting skill points (not extra points, unlike the Army Corps). You can see the full list on the "Commander trait" page on the wiki.
@AlterExo_
@AlterExo_ Жыл бұрын
@@alexionut.05 or you can type allowtraits into the console and see for yourself.
@alexionut.05
@alexionut.05 Жыл бұрын
@@AlterExo_ wym
@AlterExo_
@AlterExo_ Жыл бұрын
@@alexionut.05 If you type that into the console ("allowtraits") and look where you would assign traits to generals, you can see all the traits in the game, even unique traits that only exist for certain, countries, and you can see their bonuses and negatives. You can even assign them to the general of your choosing.
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Жыл бұрын
Fascism if you want to have literally any fun
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
True
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 10 ай бұрын
Communism has much the same benefits with an additional reduced puppeting cost on top of that. I'd rather take a series of subject states than hold direct rule over so much uncored territory, it's far more practical and looks better on the map.
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 10 ай бұрын
@@gengarzilla1685 uncored territory is pretty fucking annoying but so is managing all your puppet states. For me, I prefer to invade and carve up the map as I see fit and whatever I have no direct use for/whats left over after I draw my epic borders, I puppet
@ThatVillain-the-Gamer
@ThatVillain-the-Gamer 11 ай бұрын
Just gotta love how very few people actually care about non-aligned countries attacking others
@eulalawrence2559
@eulalawrence2559 Ай бұрын
I think Burgundian system is the greatest ideology in hoi4
@ProsK0
@ProsK0 Жыл бұрын
vri gud vido
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Thank
@ptsm
@ptsm Жыл бұрын
Sub ideologies matter in non aligned u can get an extra 10 pos liking if same party type
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
I said that
@user-ml1ow7nk8i
@user-ml1ow7nk8i Жыл бұрын
Once you enter total mob, then there's no difference.
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
He just proved you wrong
@dAni-ik1hv
@dAni-ik1hv Жыл бұрын
ssh dont tell him u dont have to walk to vladyvostok and that you only have to walk to the urals
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Behind Urals*
@Nullifiedengineer
@Nullifiedengineer Жыл бұрын
holy shit mans voice reminds me of this guy that played star wars clone wars rp
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Sorry to dissapoint you, but that's not me
@SehrSexyWilhelmIIHohenzollern
@SehrSexyWilhelmIIHohenzollern Жыл бұрын
my ideology is better than yours
@Vaipts
@Vaipts Жыл бұрын
gott schütze den kaiser
@pep-qew1977
@pep-qew1977 Жыл бұрын
All Hail Fantag Techsoc!
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
But I am more white than you
@Qwerka
@Qwerka Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak You look gypsy I am blond hair
@belgianfried
@belgianfried Жыл бұрын
when is sеx faction added
@eulalawrence2559
@eulalawrence2559 Ай бұрын
In 1.15 69$ sex DLC
@TKnightcrawler
@TKnightcrawler Жыл бұрын
You can boost ideology as non-aligned with your spies. But I think you can't in the vanilla game.
@organik3434
@organik3434 Жыл бұрын
Actually you can, and it is even easier without La Resistance DLC
@eulalawrence2559
@eulalawrence2559 Ай бұрын
it has no sense since there is no non-aligned coup or civil war
@bghn4114
@bghn4114 Жыл бұрын
Trollin
@yoanawramow8809
@yoanawramow8809 Жыл бұрын
Paradox really needs to rework democracies, they made them significantly weaker than fascist and communist ideologies, while in reality democratic nations (and the ussr) won ww2
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
They won because they were stronger, they also had colonies and resources, bigger navies, also soviets had a giant role while not being democratic
@yoanawramow8809
@yoanawramow8809 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak Yeah perhaps one of democracies' biggest advantage is that they're all together fighting the same enemy. I meant a change like weekly manpower or pops growth since immigrants always choose democracies. Currently most of the hoi4 players choose to play fascist nations/paths and you very well explained why.
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@yoanawramow8809 Including myself, fascist ideology is just extremely broken
@yoanawramow8809
@yoanawramow8809 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak I am more focused on role-play and I usually play unhistorical. I tend to play democracies much more often
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@yoanawramow8809 We are not the same.
@PZ-VH
@PZ-VH Жыл бұрын
Yo
@Hoi4291
@Hoi4291 Жыл бұрын
Monarism in non allgined
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
MORB TIME
@Daniel-jl9fk
@Daniel-jl9fk Ай бұрын
Comunism is the perfect balance and argiubly the most fun
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Ай бұрын
takes forever to justify tho
@Mamenber
@Mamenber 3 күн бұрын
All those buffs and the Soviet Union is still useless
@thecakeist242
@thecakeist242 9 ай бұрын
Why is the UK government lead by the CONSERVATIVE party considered liberal instead of conservative?
@euivets2892
@euivets2892 6 ай бұрын
They fixed that now. Stanley Baldwin is now a conservative in the game.
@NotKnafo
@NotKnafo Жыл бұрын
did you copy the subgroups from the wiki?
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Yeah and shouldn't have, it is not despotic or oligarhic but despotism and oligarchy, wiki is ran by players who barely know anything
@b1nfz
@b1nfz Жыл бұрын
Hello
@cheesycake5879
@cheesycake5879 Жыл бұрын
hello
@Antin121
@Antin121 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesycake5879 how are you?
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 Жыл бұрын
hi ppl
@pep-qew1977
@pep-qew1977 Жыл бұрын
Hi!
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Hello
@godzilla9619
@godzilla9619 Жыл бұрын
Dis you make this because of what I said about democracy
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
What
@godzilla9619
@godzilla9619 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak because i said in another post that democracy sucks in Hoi 4
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@godzilla9619 What post lol
@antorseax9492
@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын
Officer corpse
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Salemss
@Salemss Жыл бұрын
Your clips are interesting and useful, but the audio mic is bad and annoying. Thank you
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
I can't afford a better one, you welcome
@saddleg00se77
@saddleg00se77 Жыл бұрын
Maybe buy the dude a mic? Or maybe piss off instead.
@donpablitojuarez4640
@donpablitojuarez4640 Жыл бұрын
@@saddleg00se77 Exactly, see, this dude gets it
@sadettinarslan5324
@sadettinarslan5324 Жыл бұрын
Democracies doesnt fit in the game.
@muovi2463
@muovi2463 Жыл бұрын
What?
@rangar6853
@rangar6853 Жыл бұрын
They don't fit in real life so why are you suprised ?
@Qwerka
@Qwerka Жыл бұрын
@@rangar6853 So do you?
@aleadri2003f
@aleadri2003f Жыл бұрын
Brooo stop puppeting my country T_T
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
change your pfp first
@rasyaar5124
@rasyaar5124 Жыл бұрын
Democracy is the best since you are the good guys
@arafel7734
@arafel7734 Жыл бұрын
doubt
@ghost2130Main
@ghost2130Main Жыл бұрын
for me its communism for allies
@Urano-Uranus
@Urano-Uranus Жыл бұрын
If You Want To Go Total War, I Recommend Fascism Or Communism. If You Want To Play A Neutral Game, Democracy And Non-Aligned
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
Well it's game of conquest, with world conquest probably being the highest you can achieve and the ultimate goal, playing neutral is kinda just why?
@Urano-Uranus
@Urano-Uranus Жыл бұрын
Yeah, But Playing Democracy It's Not Too Bad, U Have A Lot Of Time To Prepare For The War, And They Have Relief Command,Which Give Them +25 Army Experience.
@greenmanwithagreenplan904
@greenmanwithagreenplan904 Жыл бұрын
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@poonaford9788
@poonaford9788 Жыл бұрын
🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
It's situational. I'm going to compare communism and fascism because those two are the ones contending for numero uno. First, we have to look at there game Philosphy, and that's quite simple because it's as it was historically. Communism was slow and steady, building up to be better than the big bad. Fascism was that big bad, that started out strong but got weaker as it progressed, not because of anything it was doing, but because everyone else was better. This is reflected in 2 things: Conquest, and Puppets. Communism is slow and steady, having more time for conquest but less consequences. They also have better options in a peace conference if other people are in it, due to their -30% puppet cost. They then have to spend more time getting even stronger by integrating those puppets. Fascism on the other hand, has to be at war with a major to even get their conquest buff, which reflects how fascism really needed a strong enemy to fuel the populace in order for them to let the government conquest like that. This means that fascism can expand quicker and get results quicker(due to the puppet autonomy thing), but the problem comes when you can't get those results because other people are in the peace conference, so you have to go to war with them. In conclusion, Its situational. Fascism is better if you're soloing everyone as quickly as possible and don't mind using some cheese to get that -80% justification time, but communism is better if you're looking for a stronger and more reliable way to play.
@LibertarianLiberall
@LibertarianLiberall Жыл бұрын
Communusm is utopian and democratic ideology:)(Stalinism, bolshevism and others is not communist regimes) Ps. I am leftish, but i am not communist
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
It is not achievable
@AjarTadpole7202
@AjarTadpole7202 Жыл бұрын
@@sejozwak What isn't achievable?
@sejozwak
@sejozwak Жыл бұрын
@@AjarTadpole7202 Communism.
@doomermusicproduction
@doomermusicproduction Жыл бұрын
Communism
@blackx6086
@blackx6086 Жыл бұрын
Its fascism just like irl
@quincyames2014
@quincyames2014 Жыл бұрын
sigma male
@emulord6196
@emulord6196 Жыл бұрын
L
@emulord6196
@emulord6196 Жыл бұрын
@@quincyames2014 L
@mathieu3318
@mathieu3318 Жыл бұрын
@@emulord6196 fascism clearly works, did you see how hitler turned germany from a ruined country to the ruler of europe?
@emulord6196
@emulord6196 Жыл бұрын
@@mathieu3318 it clearly doesn't work and that has nothing to do with fascism that's to do with Hitler who was a fascist but fascism didn't make him be able to restore a country
@ktostaki2623
@ktostaki2623 Жыл бұрын
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