SURELY MY FRIEND static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/MC-10132912-9999.pdf static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/MC-10132913-9999.pdf www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/187742-3rd-gen-prius-oil-consumption-head-gasket-issues/ priuschat.com/threads/egr-clogging-is-it-possible-to-avoid-it.233414/ priuschat.com/threads/how-to-prevent-the-3rd-gen-prius-headgaskets-failure.233115/ www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/187742-3rd-gen-prius-oil-consumption-head-gasket-issues/ I TRULY HOPE YOUR REQUEST HAS BEEN COMPLETELY SATISFIED Sincerely, - a guy who would never own nor recommend an early 3rd gen Prius.

Get schooled scrub 😂 Literally woulda took 5 mins on google tops but you had to make a fool of yourself

@@I_Do_Cars You must hate Toyota's, but sure. You have provided 'facts'. What do you recommend for reliability? Audi? Perhaps BMW

@@hariranormal5584 I actually love Toyotas and I think they’re amongst some of the most reliable Japanese branded cars you can buy. I own two. That’s why when they have a notorious problem it really stands out. If you want to take what I say as an attack on the brand, I can’t help it. 🤷‍♂️

@@hariranormal5584 I mean look at the vehicle next to my name… it’s a Toyota 😉

For "a lot of people" there might as well be a hamster-wheel under the hood ;)

😂😮😂 To the comments so far.

Even reliable engines need the oil checked or changed

Its electric, really the gas motors cheper then the batterys are My kids prius battery failed under warranty the bill was over 2k for a rebuilt unit i believe ( seems the hampster was out of nuts) No seriously its not a bad car, but you cant forget you have to matain the gas motor like any other car. Gas mileage is friknig outstanding if driven right. I think they should have just used a air cooled 26 hp diesel engine that runs on any fuel type to charge the battery and the battery for motion The motor is a jet like the Abrams a1 tank but exhaust gases are reburnt and it only runs to charge the battery, heat off the motor can be used to keep the car warm in the winter and start on its own even without the key in a parked outside mode it uses detection to find the spaces its in or if its outside, its also a plug in hybrid so if its plugged in its always warmed up ready to be driven, no snow on it. The body is aluminum/fiberglass and not ferrous materials so it cant rust its water tight dust tight and water dust nor anything else can get inside it parked If there's a flood it just floats.

I know from experience that Toyotas are extremely popular among penny pinchers who buy them with the idea that you can save by skipping the maintenance on one. And on the rare occasions they do maintenance on it, it's the cheapest place they could find or just by themselves with very little clue about how to do things. Old Toyotas here are often absolute ticking timebombs due to years of neglect and half assed repairs.

Proof that regular inspection and maintenance works!

The only reason I bought one was because the taxi drivers in Chicago were driving them to 300,000 plus miles. If they can take the abuse of taxi style driving, my hwy driving was going to be easy on it.

What did you do for .get long millage

I was following a taxi one day,a Camry hybrid, it was blowing clouds of white smokefrom the tailpipe so bad that it was like driving ina fog for those behind.Not sure what the issue was, but one friend haa Camry hybrid and his problem was OIL CONSUMPTION @200 Kms, that's roughly 120,000 miles. a liter of oil per 1000Kms was his consumption, or a quart per 600 miles.

it exploded🤣

My Fiat diesel (bought with broken cam chain) has been fully rebuilt and now doing fine. But the head and inlet manifold were severely clogged with soot. It had been driven ridiculously slowly leading to spot deposition and excessive loads on the cam chain. Pretty carp for 120K but Brits do 1/2 the miles of USA and mostly in town. These particular engines have sacrificial rockers so valves usually survive.

That's how they go. Did you have oil in your intake manifold? PCV is the culprit usually

You have to clean out the EGR cooler, EGR valve, and small passages from the EGR system in the intake manifold roughly every 80k-100k miles. At that same time change the PCV valve and also install an oil catch can so it doesn't get plugged up like yours did!

@@jimsgaragetoys I just replaced my intake all together. Cleaning out the small passages within the intake is almost impossible. Better to just replace it and it takes less time

It’s so true. Prius drivers are some of the slowest and most annoying on the road and their engines still blow up because they’re poorly designed.

@@sharedknowledge6640 You were referring to the drivers right? 😆

@@sharedknowledge6640 Not only Prus drivers. All Toyota drivers . Always below speed limit

@@sharedknowledge6640 I had a teacher in high school with a Prius. He would go 55 in a 40 and pass students in the center turn lane.

@@sharedknowledge6640 I don't drive that way and I own a Prius. 2nd gen and I've had mine up to 130 mph. It's a weird thing too. At about 45 the aerodynamics of the body starts to really show. I've gotten on the highway, got up to sped and then 10 minutes later I'm doing 80+ and no, I wasn't "giving it the beans" either.

The dipstick resistance are going too send a terminator from the future too handlenthis guy

It's all fun and games until your dipstick gets seriously stuck.

I don't know why he even bothers with an engine stand, the manufacturers make the dipstick tubes that tight for good reason.

The dipstick is stronger as the connecting rods?

​@@Wolfpack310j

He made $50 !

I think that wagon body with the new style would look pretty sweet. Sadly I doubt we'll ever see it as it seems if something isn't labeled SUV or crossover, nobody wants it. I'd love a Prius V Prime with AWD.

I've found out, that 300k km is the magic number for head gaskets. Usually the engine starts to fart exhaust into the coolant, and the temp needle starts acting really weird.

215,000 miles really isn't great for a toyota

Exactly. Mine blew at 340k

Answer for head gasket failing is water pump. After 200k km they aren’t efficient and engine get overheated if use at higher speed or oil hasn’t been changed in time. This electric pomp need to be changed every 200k km

Sanity ? What's that ?

@@thomasfletcher760 As long as I don’t have to hear about Trump and all his BS! Now that’s INsanity…

@@randy6350Rent free... no one mentions his name, obviously the world isn't one man, and yet it doesn't stop the terminally deranged from bringing up that name at every available opportunity. If this were pre ~2015, this type of behavior would be recognized by the DSM-V as a mental disorder.

yet here you are bringing it up nonetheless oh well @@randy6350

​@@randy6350TDS

I would think that if you only drove around town the gas engine would rarely get used. Maybe that is why around town driving didn't use oil. But hwy driving, where the engine is constantly running, the engine is showing it's true colors as far as oil burn goes. Check out these 2 service bulletins that Toyota put out for the 4-cylinder engine they were putting in the Corolla and Camry cars for a few years. (T-SB-0024-11 and T-SB-0094-11) They were burning a quart of oil every 800 to 1500 miles after 50k of use.

You've GOTTA be kidding me!

@@InquisitiveSearcher I think you're confused about what a Prius hybrid is, versus what a Prius Prime PHEV is. A Prius engine gets used around town, because you can't plug it in to charge it, and it really doesn't get far on battery alone. A Prius Prime on the other hand, like my 2017 Prime, can go as far on electric after you charge it, as it can go on 1/2 gallon of gas. The EPA says 25 miles, but for me it's usually more like 30-35 miles, sometimes 40 if at modest speed. Yep, that means that I normally get 60, 70, even 80mpg on gas alone, without dropping the battery state of charge. My last 43.0 mile round trip to a grocery store yesterday got me 248.4mpg, and would have been more if I hadn't forgotten that the defroster (hence AC) was on for the first several miles. 43/248.4 = 0.173 gallons .... plus of course the 6.6kWh of electricity I had charged it with. From experience, I know that the $0.79 of electricity I used, saved me 0.50 gallons of gas, and that using only gas, I would have therefore used 0.673 gallons and averaged 63.9mpg despite the defroster mistake and all warmup losses (which also happened while burning the 0.173 gallons I actually used). I love that every time I get home after using up my EV range, I can "make a half gallon of gas" at a cost of $1.58/gallon. And it never knocks in EV mode, so that's really comparable to premium gas, for $1.58/gallon. And via the deal offered (to everyone, not just EV/PHEV owners) by my town through an alternate electric supplier, my price of "EV gas" isn't going up above $1.58/gallon until the summer of 2026 at the soonest.

Maybe I just got a good one, but my 2017 Prius Prime has 111K miles, made two 8000 mile round trips out west and has not used even 0.2 quarts of oil on either trip. And at no point did I go as slow as 65mph on the highway for any extended period. In Texas, where the speed limit was 80mph, I set the cruise control on 94mph for a full tank of gas. But that gets me about 34mpg, so I actually prefer 84mph to get 42mpg all day long when I'm covering a lot of ground. In another unnamed western state, where there is a lower speed limit but plenty of places where you can see 10 or 20 miles ahead and behind, I hit the governor at 104mph (where it doesn't sputter, just acts like you set the cruise on 104) and set the cruise at 103mph until approaching a curve or somewhere a cop could be hiding. In yet another place, I was at full throttle or under braking during a 4000 foot drop in altitude down into a canyon, and a 4000 foot climb back out of it, on a road that looks like a caricature of twists, turns, hairpins, and short straightaways between switchbacks. It's an awesome car to push hard. Much, much faster cars simply can't run with it under those conditions, and those who try, end up with actual smoke coming from their brakes before they give up. On one of those two trips, I also spent 17 days in southern AZ in temps up to 119F, and left the engine on 24/7 all month, except when filling the gas tank and checking the oil. It didn't use any, despite the engine running 700 hours that month. I use 0W20 Pennzoil Platinum (sometimes Ultra Platinum, not always), for whatever that is worth. I don't notice any difference in toughness or oil consumption, between it and a 2005 Prius I had earlier and actually didn't part with as a spare car until I'd had the Prime for 5 years. Both sure seem bulletproof to me.

@@EfficientRVer : Well, regardless as to if I am confused between a Hybrid and a Prime, I think you'll agree that the info that the dealer is giving to @abpob6052 about expected/normal oil burn is a pile of horse manure. If you read up on those 2 service bulletins I listed, of which Toyota put out years ago for another 4-cylinder engine they made, you'll find out that the problem was that Toyota was using a piston with out enough oil pass through holes at the bottom of the oil ring slot. The excess oil in the oil rings would carbonize and then prevent the oil rings from working at all. This left lots of oil on the cylinder walls that would get burned up so the engine went though a quart of oil every 800 to 1500 miles. Toyota would give the customer, free of charge, a short block with the new/updated pistons but the customer had to pay for the labor of putting it in the car. The rate of oil burn that @abpob6052 talked about in the original post just sounds so very similar to what was happening in a 4-cylinder Toyota engine years ago. Maybe a similar problem?

I don't know where that engine comes feom but my Prime like to turn oil into mayonaise during winter so i buy the lacks of lubrification theory.

Water from outside in the oil? Strange. And its not coolant? @@marc-oliviercabot3380

not true. There is a clutch assembly pack with dampening springs in the torque converter to prevent this.

the clutch is always engaged but will release at a certain amounts of torque. Look at assembly diagrams of a prius Hybrid you can find this safety device.

Well, it’s part of the fun and adventure 😁

Good on ya. Killing cones, and hopefully not con rods.

What business do you guys use these in?

May I ask why you have so many?

@@kinglangren @dertmatyui utility locating. Most of our guys are hard on vehicles, stop and go environments. Typical work day is 10-12 HOURS, 200-300 miles, cars never get shut off. They have been battle tested. We might consider the Ford mavericks now since they are leasing the hybrid system from Toyota but we need to find out if Ford did what for always does, replace metal parts with plastic.

Well maintained they are bulletproof. Personally however, i need to do an oil change every 1-1/2 months during winter as the oil never gets up to temps and gets loaded with water. From March to December it's mostly ok but December to March i do like 2 oil changes just to flush the water.. I'm considering putting a sandwich oil cooler to actually act like an oil heater so it would get up to temps faster during winter months..

@@marc-oliviercabot3380 That's all true, oil, water and achieving a long engine life don't mix.

To be fair, if it takes a hammer, chisel and a fork lift to change the oil, I don't blame the owners.

@@CheezeCracker Actually the fork lift is standard protocol and specifically mentioned in the Prius owners manual.

@@LongBoy.0 well, at least that says a lot about Toyota, VW didn't warn me about pulling coil packs

As Mark Novak likes to say: "Do the maintenance!" I drive a Subaru, and it gets a lot of miles on it, because it's my daily driver and I have a 42-mile commute. But...I don't redline the engine unless I have to (it had happened) and I'm careful to get the oil changed on time whenever it's due for a checkup.

@@CheezeCracker I own a 2008 Prius. 210k miles, original battery pack. Oil changes 3k or 6 months. I don't have that issue with the filter. That is either a problem with the last instillation, lack of oil changes or it rusted from being outside.

Look back thru his list. A few months back he did a Victory engine.

Do my spark plugs the same 😂😂

That tickled me too!

Diesel injectors.... 50 ton gantry crane with sawzall-cut access hole through hood?

Yes this is one of my favorite things about this channel. What carnage am I finding. 😊

Those Toyota engines sure make a lot of grunt at idle, huh?

It only had to break some thin & brittle aluminum, not a cast iron block too.

Pretty cool to me that it could bend like that without crumbling.

Electric motor makes sure that rod gets seriously bent.

sir we found the other half of your engine it's in your oil filter sir🤣

well a guy at work his daughter got an oil change they didn't tighten her oil filter on and her engine gave up the ghost after two days from peeing it's oil out all over the street when the filter came off simply put she got a newer younger engine mileage wise due to that issue

I can't understand why so many people believe that you can treat an engine that way.

it's the egr cooler versions of the engine that have blowing up issues, that's not shared with corollas

The way the engine functions in the corolla is wildly different from how it functions in the prius, hence why they're so reliable in them but not the prius.

Toyota KNOWS (insider info) the 10 K is too much. But so many dealers give the farm away with free oil changes for like 2 years after purchase so Toyota obliges the dealers with an extended oil change interval to save the dealers money. seems stupid but I know this on good authority and no I will not reveal the source.

@@michaelbenardo5695 because they have no idea how cars work, all they know is "change the oil at X miles" a lot dont even know that X, because advice ranges from 3k, 5k, 7.5k, 10k which is a big range and the brain doesnt register it. and sometimes they forget. its a shame but a symptom of a overly busy life/society.

I'd have got Dad's old bolt cutters onto it! :)

Never checking helps 😝

Send him to this channel especially if Eric has done a teardown of the engine in his hybrid???

His attitude is so mind boggling. What is it about oil changes that the younger generations hate so much?

It really depends on which car he has, if it’s a plug in like the Volt he may only be putting a thousand miles on the engine per year and changing the oil when the car says it’s time. I do mine yearly on the Prius and at 330k so far it can’t be hurting it, no glitter on my filters so far.

@@906MediaProductionsoil goes bad with time, certain additives do not stay dissolved in the oil with time

@@user-vk2cd9qw7i correct, but if it was causing a major issue it should have wiped my engine by now considering the average car would be scrapped at 2/3 this mileage.

Oil changes are one of the easiest things to do.

How many miles did you put on it?

@@edwardspaccarelli5944 Sold it at 135k

I heard the problem was they used low tension rings round 2011.

I saw that too and it’s not the first time I’ve seen him do it. No wonder he couldn’t break it loose.

i do believe a 7.3l has been done

10 months ago. Just go to the 'videos' tab and click the 'search' button.

@@centauri61032 That was a Powerstroke. A 7.3 IDI has the same displacement as a Powerstroke and is also a diesel V8 made by International/Navistar, but that's pretty much where the similarities end. The 7.3 IDI is a bored-out version of the 6.9L. Both IDIs are completely mechanical, distributor-style injection pumps, no electronic controls. Until the last years of the 7.3 IDI, no factory turbo.

@@jasonhaman4670 Yup, you are correct. My error.

Those are pretty hard to destroy. Gutless but they're tough as nails

the cause for the P2 oil use at higher miles is oil coke formation on the piston rings.

Epic dip stick battle!

It's in the Toyota manual.... 😁

Yes, the lack of a plastic valve cover was disturbing. Apparently they didn't take the challenge from Ford of who can make the cheapest (in both senses of the word) 4 cylinder car engine.

Damn so what did you do to it? how many miles?

@@javajav3004 2010-2014 Prius engines have issues with piston rings causing oil burning issues. The piston likely cocked to the side, jammed in the cylinder causing the connecting rod to detach and spin creating an inspection hole

@@thatguyontheright1 "inspection hole" lmao i saw that on a plane once so you're not kidding. How many miles was your prius at when it blew?

@@javajav3004 220k

AH sprite owners manual checked oil, coolant & battery levels every day! Don't recall brake & clutch fluid and tyre pressure but were probably the same.

The 1.5 Litre Gen 2 Prius engine is literally bullet proof. I have mine serviced every year and I keep an eye on oil consumption. Now I realise regular high speed runs will burn oil at 150k miles. However it seems to use nothing during regular inner city commuting. My engine runs as smoothly as it did when I first got the car over 10 years ago. Shame about the Gen 3 Prius engine.

Same. These videos make me paranoid about my engine oil.

5k is the longest I’ll ever go on oil change intervals. Seen far too many engine/timing chain failures at the higher intervals that even manufacturers tend to recommend.

What kind of oil did you use and what was the interval?

The bane of the salt belt. You csn expect 10-12 years before you start seeing serious corrosion if you arent dilligent about woolwax / fluid film / or some treatment.

I've never understood how a clogged EGR can affect a head gasket, how are they connected? Not saying it's impossible, just that I've never run across an explanation for how one causes the other. Can you offer any insight?

@@myself248 Part of the exhaust gases flow from the exhaust manifold through the EGR system back into the intake to be put back into the air flow (you're basically re-burning those gases for emissions/efficiency). The EGR cooler reduces exhaust gas temperature as it passes through, leaving behind carbon deposits that build up over time. Eventually, the EGR cooler, EGR valve and piping get so clogged up with deposits that it increases exhaust back pressure, basically putting the engine at greater risk of popping its head gasket. I'm sure someone over at Priuschat has a far better explanation of what goes on and how a clogged EGR system takes out these Gen 3 Prius engines. I had one @ 180k where the previous owner never touched the EGR. Cleaning all of that crap out was........"fun."

When you put it back on just tighten it with your wrist as soon as the plastic canister base contacts the metal and it stops turning from wrist pressure you're done this is the secret 175,000 miles on my Corolla same Engine I change the oil every 5K

😂 sometimes you just have to show them who's boss.

@@Me-zo8yc yeah. What else do I do with it. Not like can do much short of putting in a different engine. It wasn’t worth rebuilding so might as well have a little fun with it

Change your oil at 3000 miles or one year and you will NEVER have a problem- Great post!

Yes, 3K - 4K oil and filter changes. Oil is still cheaper than metal.

I change the oil in my Prius once every year (10,000 miles) - Toyota Dealer UK. I top up if required - never during city driving but only after long distance trips across country at sustained 70+ mph. I normally cruise at city speed limits using cruise control where ever possible. Bought the 2008 Prius at 54k miles. Has now reached 150k miles (UK) - no problems at all. I use high quality oil, not cheap stuff. Economy reading is presently 66.0 mpg with 4 bars of fuel to go and 420 miles out of the tankful so far. My best record was 69.4 mpg @ 653 miles from my 45 litre tank of fuel - during a blistering heatwave last year.

the service regiment for my 2021 hybrid 1.8l corolla is once a year or every 1500km (9320miles), what ever comes first. I wonder why its different depending on which country you are in.

@@albinfiskare Different oils, different climate, different driving conditions?

every time I put fuel I check coolant, brake fluids, oil levels and tire pressure takes about 3 min. maybe oil level only once every two times at the pump because car only has 60k miles but if there is an issue you can catch on early hopefully.