Kιng Jongнyυn actually yanchen returned the second time they called but left again. According to him he was disappointed on their training system lol

fabuxoxo I'm sorry, I don't think that's the case. And anyway, is it better in China where they don't even have good basic training system? Let's not forget where the top stars from China (yixing, Kris, Luhan) came from: SM Ent. Yixing was so bad in his early years and look at him now, a top artist all around! So no, I don't think it's the training system, the company is trash and they don't treat their artists properly, but they'll turn them into mega stars and polish them till perfection. As I said before, living example is Zhang Yixing, the actual host of Idol Producer.

Kιng Jongнyυn if he actually said it was due to the training system maybe it was because it was too intense or too harsh, not that it was low quality

many leave sm not because of shitty training system but because it's too intense and highly competitive. it may have earned them a "shitty company" image but it can't be denied that sm artists (people who actually survived that inhumanly competitive training system) are one of the greatest artists out there- like the finest of diamonds thoroughly polished and highly skilled.

when did he talk about sm?

aisyah margana that hurts but its true

+aisyah margana but the thing is that even when they loose someone they replace them with even better stars.

Girasolll 100% true. Only the best artist can survive in SM. so many good trainee go to SM, only the best selected

"SM has balance" 😂😂

@@Nobody-er9kq omg HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

SM's training system is lethal but incredibly good. Ding Zeren is the perfect example of SM idols especially when it comes to dancing.

Seungwan Park agreed

True. Some of the best dancers in K-pop are SM artists.

Brittany Terry and vocalist... Dont forget about that... Imo one of best vocalist with the best range,skill, and technique came from SM... U can hate the company all u want but u cant denied how well they trained the trainee... They literally change mediocore ppl to freaking talented one

+R E W True and never forget to mention SM artists' visuals.

I recently just watched a chinese drama and he was an actor there and later when I found ot that he was/is also on idol producer I was shocked

I watched that drama too! Han Mubo can go into acting (and do well) too!

I can't imagine the chaos though. Like Taeyong would have to put leashes on Mark and Zeren to control them 😂😂

Sm love much china

Riani MB yes cuz they paid them less than korean idols... according to one member of CLC they earn less cuz of korean law that non korean bla bla bla to make more available spots for korean ... watch her video

lol it was only 3 people?

AyAReI00 U are tAlking about sorn right?

The most devastating 11 minutes of Sehuns life yeah she did a video about that ... And according to a internet page that publics kpop related articles she talk to lisa from Blackpink but she told her "she was ok with that" Idk but for me that is totallly unfair

i'm actually hoping that the 7 yuehua boys will debut together in china, lol

from what i read, if i'm not mistaken, fan cheng cheng is supposed to debut with the pd101 kids, and zeren most likely to be so too. but yuehua probably pushed their debut because of this show. also, there is a dance practice video where there are/is two/one trainee whose face is covered with sticker on yuehua vlive channel and fans said that might be chengcheng. idk tho. might be wrong.

+lemon they'll probably debut in korea AND china because of justin and zhengting being in Yuehua Sprouts also

Nah he is better with nex7

@@pikachubread i want justin jung jung debut in korean in china not famous

I KNOW IM SO PROUD OF MY BABY but I can’t believe he didn’t make it on the last elimination! I honestly cried, he deserved so much better

same!!!

Yes my SM heart jus knew!

"soon"

trisha kay same

Trisha Kay Badon they're debuted idols now under the name NEX7 👏 We stan legends 💛

nctoutsold ღ Zeren and Yanchen yes, I’m not so sure about Mubo, since I do not know when he was a Sm trainee. He is also a few years older than Nct members so I don’t think he would have been put into Nct

Ikr. Damn I wouldnt mind if they were though.

yes, especially ding zeren and yanchen

Sarah Zimmerli maybe Mubo and Yixing crossed paths when they where trainees under SM since both of them are the same age. It depends on when he decided to leave SM for his studies.

Seungjun's Bread savage

... that explains it, high expectation from Yanchen (from himself & from others). He doesn't want to disappoint

jiminlove park well its either hardwork or getting cut... Just look at yixing... Its not like the company put a razor on their throat so they trained harder... The trainee know they only had choice of hardwork to be the best or quit... Half ass isnt an option.. Especially not in SM when all their debuted artist is overfowing with talent+determination

Seungjun's Bread i don't quite get this, why "no wonder"?

Shaville Rowena Because Yanchen trained at SM. That means he's amazing at hard work and must have a lot of determination. Plus SM asked for him after his schooling, you must seriously be talented if SM is willing to wait and go after you.

i just found out they guested on weekly idol! about to watch that episode, hehe

It is sad that Qin Fen indeed is in a desperate to debut because of his age. Now he is in a group now, however, I still pray for that group's success.

Kιng Jongнyυn uh, I’m sorry but that sounded koreaboo af

DarknessWings That's funny because I've been studying in Seoul for two years lol. Go away.

Kιng Jongнyυn lmao so? You can be in studying in Korea and still be a koreaboo

DarknessWings lol, I think you don't actually know what 'koreaboo' is. Stop being ignorant and go away, kid.

Kιng Jongнyυn lmaooooo that's hella rich coming from you but keep on deluding yourself hun 😂

SMTownForever he also debuted as a member of Swin

Felicia Irawan yes, thank you for mentioning that😊. I forgot to comment that part 😅

what was Xukun's rank when he won in super idol?

I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR COMMENT HAHA

SMTownForever ppppp

maybe that's how he got close with jackson :)

lemon he probably got close to Jackson because they are both Chinese and both debuted in 2014, Chinese Idols usually know each other somehow

yep

probably! maybe not fluently though?

Most likely. Especially Ding Zeren since he’s friends with Hansol, who’s korean and knew only a little mandarin

definitely yes

uli nansyah yanchen can, I saw he replied some of ig acc in korean too

Chanbaek is my religion what did he do?

I heard he bought a plane ticket to China without telling anyone and then send a text message saying he left the group and the company. He never went back to Korea. Sorry, I'm not that good at english

ikhlas e he left the day before they where gonna preform on a music show as well, like he just left for China and when he arrived in china he just texted that he will never comeback and Ofc all that he did is against the contract and all that. Like he betrayed his group and his company

Chanbaek is my religion wow, i wouldn’t expect him to do such a thing..

that was him?? wow... do you know what happened with the contract? i just looked them up and apparently the 6 remaining members went on mix nine

Pranckall Poor him! He really needs to debut!

Jojo Tiong and now he will with Awaken-F

Qin Fen is older than Jackson, so your statement should be flipped.

ae w I think yuehua will debute in China in the future because after all, they can potentially earn much more in China than in Korea

I doubt they’d have much success if they debut Yuehua in Korea as an all-Chinese member group. Asian countries are patriotic AF and they don’t really like their neighbouring countries.

DarknessWings well Yuehua does have at least 3 Korean trainees

why would you want that? they're clearly looking for debut in china, you should support them in china :///

oceee , i want them to debut successfully in china but i also wanna see them debut with hyungseob and others

I would doubt that for sure. You don't know how many visuals SM still is hiding underneath their very own dungeon in which Kun haven't escaped yet.

Jenzo1990 He really needs to debug!

He’ll debut with his label mates the group is called Awaken-F

ooh, how do you know?

lemon it's on weibo, apparently he declined because of studying

Honestly, Lin Yanjun is really good-looking,

Lovely Complex Maybe can debut but not fast, waiting for the next group debut, maybe a trainee who can not wait opt out.

Really? Which Korean company?

it wasn't really a company but another trainee survivsl show based on 25 chinese trainees who trained in korea...Cai XuKun was one of the finalists so he debuted eith SWINS

sharp edges he already debut with his OACA mates :)

Really? which Korean company?

K-Did You Know? He was in the show 'super idol' made by mbc and a china tv station. In the show, the chinese trainees and korean trainees were trained in korea, and they have a competition for debut. There were two seasons, and lastly xukun won and debuted in the group 'swin'. But xukun later leave the group because of serval problems.(which are reported lately, maybe you can go for a search)

K-Did You Know? Sorry for bad english🙈

Oh yea I know that he was in Korea for the show, so I guess that makes sense. This video was more for ppl who were trainees in Korea but you do have a point

Because they all have the talented and producers

IMO they should replace JYP asap. I mean Twice is popular and all but they are kind of overrated because people like them for their songs not because they are talented idols.