Born Hater You serious? Idol fans want this unattainable relationship with a girl who has their own interests. You're always gonna have an issue between what an idol is expected to be and who they really are as a person. Miku is popular because her existence avoids this. You can objectify her 100% and avoid ruining an actual human's life just because she wanted a relationship or something totally normal.

biotechKazoo Idols are great and all but his video points out how horrible it can be when an actual human is forced to meet the expectations of thousands of fans. It's not healthy for either side. Miku isn't real so it's a logical step for fans' obsessions.

@@otakudaikun yep,but in what kind of world do we live in so real humans could be obsessed with something that doesnt exist? To be in love with fiction? We are completely isolating ourselves from other people and it's scary to see shit like this being normalised

@@otakudaikun idol culture in general sucks,but on the other hand idol singers know what theyre getting into. They have a choice to give up and do something else. It's the people who consume that are the main problem. These days everything has to be offered right in front of you for you to be satisfied,including love and affection..

Born Hater Is a fake relationship with an idol any better? You can take an obsession too far whether it's a real girl or a hologram.

I laughed at Chris Crocker, but even I was like he got a point tho

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Like with all things that attract a lot of people it's a mixed bag, some people do understand that idols are pretty much just a fancy escapist show and that none of the girls are "real," but you do get some of the more obsessive detached from reality fans that genuinely believe this is what they're actually like. Remember that one girl who was caught going on a date, so she had to shave her head, make a public apology, and basically end her career because of idols are supposed to have a pure image? Most normal people and fans of the group thought it was beyond ridiculous that things had to go that far and she was forced to "repent" for having a life, but there is a reason she did, because of the hardcore "muh purity" retards who can't see normal people as normal people.

fireaza japan destroy the woman for fun

Japan idols are not singer and dancer they are just stupid emotionless little girls for perverts They are just used and destroyed and dumped And japan must make pedo as the sexual contents And stop copying kpop and make their own culture

Abusing the woman is not the culture It’s just a disgusting disgusting disgusting destruction

@@user-fd3ip5ff6z I understand your point that the sexism in japan is so bad with the way they treat the women there, especially the idols but there is no need to degrade the girls themselves. Many of them were young kids signing these contracts, with stupid parents who let them.

I've heard some argue that Perfect Blue it's not relevant today since it came out in 1997 and is based on outdated idol culture in 1992, but I haven't watched it.

@@trilfy It's even more relvant now with the rise of social media. Idol culture and worshipping is still the same back then, if not even mroe now. Even though the movie focuses on an idol it's about the image that someone puts out and with social media everyone has a following based on what you put out on your profile and personality. So it applies more to everyone than it did before. I highly recommend Perfect Blue.

am i the only one who felt really anxious when i watched the movie

@@bruh742 couldn't sleep when I watched it the first time and felt paranoid during the movie lol

Jpop idols have to essentially become otome characters not necessarily cute. They become perfect but a different kind of perfect.

Kpop is the same tho, especially the scandals of trainees doing sexual favors to debut (Look up Open World entertainment) or a company who sends out their solo artist to their “sponsors”. Kpop just hides its horrors really well. Even tho a lot of shit has been exposed since 2014, there is this some stuff that is locked up tight.

Operation Turtle The thing is Idols know what they’re getting into, why should we be sympathetic for them when they knew the consequences of going into such a fucked up industry? Just asking.

@@ZaktanVR Thing is, most of these people are too young to necessarily think through the consequences of what they're getting themselves into. "Surely, that could never happen to me!" Or, also likely, they don't know what they're getting themselves into in the first place.

@@Peachiebun reading your comment now after seungri's burning sun case, and the revival of jang jayeon's suicide case. wow.

Sometimes I don't know which is scarier, being a male or female idol. Because while female idols are definitely sexualized more, females fans of male idols are perceived by society as less of a threat which is how more male idols in the industry end up injured from fan related incidents than female idols do. You're sexualized but highly protected as a female idol once you make it and as a male idol you're still sexualized in different ways but with less protection because your fans' gender is deemed less threatening. A rapid group of young teen girls is terrifying, no concept of boundaries and would probably injure any idol they saw because of the group hysteria. We all know its incredibly unacceptable for men to throw their underwear at female idols but female fans do that to, sometimes underage, male idols. And while it's not smiled upon it's definitely seen as less creepy when it really should be seen as just as fucked up.

Kusanagikaiser999+ Are you one of the few people who was able to follow the entire plot the first time you saw it? I watched it in the AV Club at Uni 15 years ago and about half the people there just looked totally confused by the end of it, I think that the 3 parallel lives (pop idol, tv character and herself) with the plot jumping back and forth between them was too much.

@@missyk2454 'A rapid group of young teen girls is terrifying, no concept of boundaries and would probably injure any idol they saw because of the group hysteria.' I think that might've been a fact of life for 60's pop groups. There's even a gag about it in an episode of the original Thunderbirds tv show (or possibly one of the other Supermarionation shows, I'm pretty sure it's Thunderbirds) where one of the team has to act as a decoy so they can get a generic version of Cliff Richard to safety after a concert. The team member starts off being chased from the venue by a horde of teen girls then, after some other scenes, the camera cuts back to the him sprawled on the ground, bloodied and with his clothes in tatters.

jmalmsten can’t forget Korea

dude ive been saying that for years. i completely agree with you, its a sad thing to see ppl like this

*+Isaac Ceillam* Yeah, you see very similar levels of exploitation with the K-Pop industry.

@@GeneraluStelaru eh its just ran by greedy old men

@Yuju Waterbottle No it didn't. Idols actually came from France. Asia caught on to it from there. Also kpop and jpop are pretty different.

Well, back in the day, and even right now, animation in Japan was often of the limited very stilted sort, like what you'd see in Sailor moon (90s) or old Astro Boy. It was like a detailed, more 'Disney' version of what Hanna Barbera is known famously for. Recycled character models, with little action and just sparse mouth sync, use of looped backgrounds and stock footage, rotoscoping and tracing older projects, the whole nine yards of every 'trick' old 50s-70s era animation was known for during the 'Dark Ages', Japan had in spades. So it makes sense in a way. Not everything was like a Studio Madhouse thing or looked like Cowboy Bebop or Ghibli quality back then. At end of the day, you had a more traditional laborious version of what we'd call 'an early flash cartoon' in most cases, just with nicer backgrounds and sometimes explosions and effects animation for that dash of extra decency. It was the charm of the characters that made them endure more than the visuals in my opinion most of the time, when it comes to 'classic era' anime.

Well said. The Japanese live-action film industry wasn't like Hollywood. Lacking the infrastructure of a 'studio system', the various animation houses could quickly churn-out content according to a director's (or company's) vision on a reasonable budget. Live-action films from Japan have gotten higher budgets and better production value since a film like 'Perfect Blue', but the cost of shooting elaborate concert scenes, or even intimate train station moments can be realized more efficiently with animation--imo

@Vicente Hamel People like you are why Otaku are hated both in Japan and internationally. Find some other video for your stale 16-year-old troll shit.

Vicente Hamel that's disgusting, bruh. totally not cool. women are not objects to satisfy your desires.

Vicente Hamel you must be into hentai.... hmm 🤔

Vicente Hamel you are fucking dirt, disguising.

@Wowie Zowie so it was just an act right? or did it happen?

He bought the rights to Perfect Blue and used themes and even some scenes shot-for-shot in 'Requiem for a Dream' and 'Black Swan'. He's clearly a big fan!!

That explains a lot, thanks

Black swan was a piece of shit movie 😋👎👎👎👎🤡🐇

If you look up Japanese 'Tarento' or タレント, it's a 'famous for being famous' thing - celebs who appear across multiple mediums and their reason for fame itself is kind of foggy, it's a chicken-egg scenario of them being famous because, well, they're famous. A lot of idols go on to become tarento and I think this is where this line came from in the script. You're right though, plenty of idols are talented, hard working individuals who have earned their fame through grit and determination.

I am interested in how America doesn't quite seem to value innocence in the same way in who it idolizes. I keep thinking of Brittney Spears lately and just how messed up her story kind of is, and her whole gimmick was more of innocence shifting into something else. I think it would be cool to compare the two and see what they reveal about differences in the cultures.

Talented for being talented in the context of idols is more of the fact that they didn't really catch the eye of the public with their beauty or their talent, but rather that they have been groomed and taught in the shadows by companies then thrown in front of the public like "Here's your new idol that you've never heard of!" It would be like a company taking a random boy off the streets, giving them rudimentary training, then sticking them in the Quarterback position of a pro football team. They didn't do anything amazing to get there, they were pretty much hired to become a convincing quarterback regardless of actual skill or talent.

BARDOCK , because it’s the truth and if you refuse to accept it continue supporting this slave circle

BARDOCK oh please, I bet you know all about the seedy stuff and turn a blind eye towards it

I don't think it's only applicable to Japanese fandom. Popularity can be dangerous in any culture.

It's unhealthy when love something enough to ignore and shut out everyone and everything else in your life.

This is another thing I hate about otakus. You can criticize otaku culture. There's a lot to criticize. Why do otakus get butthurt whenever these issues are mentioned.

I have a question for you...since you are from Japan, maybe you can give me some insight? I am an outsider who has just an interest in how media and fads come and go in cycles, and I am curious, do the masses ever really go for any 'anti-pop star' figures there? A lot of us here in the West idolize cuteness and innocence, but there inevitably comes a time when if a young pop teen star or celebrity actor gets famous long enough, there's a stage where they suddenly grow aesthetically dark or hardcore, both in fashion and message. They will when they hit 20 often drop the cute innocent act, for an equally commercialized upon and exploited "I'm not a kid anymore, I'm a cool sexy BADASS adult now!" phase. Their songs usually stop being about puppy dog crushes and dancing and summer love, and become almost overnight about having explicit sex, being 'gangster' or harsh messy cruel breakups.... or if they're really cynical/more sophisticated than average, world politics, or not liking being part of the industry anymore and how much being famous sucks. Basically rebelling against whatever they can while still equally as much selling out. Since J-Pop and K-Pop and Idols in general seem to feed off this saccharine imagery and perpetual youth, I am curious if that is ever a thing there too? Have there ever been any idols who didn't just fade out of the spotlight-...but deliberately tore OFF the mask, and said "fuck you, I do what I WANT" and enjoy being vulgar and naughty or angry as part of the persona?? Or is this only more or less of a Western culture phenomenon? It interests me as also I notice Japan and China and Korea also favor conformity a lot stronger than Western aesthetics tend to, yet there still are healthy sub-genres in music with a 'rebel edge' like Punk and Metal quite heavily thriving there in the East ironically; while here in the US at least, they are pretty fizzled out aesthetics, along with Emo and Goth which are also on their way out....and these sub-cultures still exist but have gone back to their underground roots more or less...here, you won't find mainstream radio or tv channels constantly focused on 'counter-culture' idols like Kurt Cobain or Marilyn Manson or Courtney Love anymore. You still will get your occasional teen stars who drop the cute act though once in a while for something harsher. By the way, I am not criticizing anyone's favorite star or tastes of either the artificial 'cute' culture, or the 'edgy anti-culture'- Both are commodities in some degree and we all know it and everyone's allowed to enjoy what makes them feel good. I am just interested in whether trends follow the same pattern overseas.

Thanks! I wasn't sure whether I should include it so I'm glad to hear you liked it :)

I dont know if you were horrified by that 55:00 part. That blood scene wasn't friendly at all.

Hey thanks! So glad you liked the content :D can't belive you binged it all haha. Hope you like what's to come.

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