1970s Leyland P76 - Australia's most hated classic car?!

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idriveaclassic

idriveaclassic

8 күн бұрын

Leyland P76
By the time the P76 arrived on the forecourt, the Australian market had been sold plenty of British vehicles and the link between British Leyland and Australia was well established.
For more information on how this market developed, it’s worth looking at the Export or Die policy which kicked in after the Second World War. Essentially, manufacturers of vehicles had to sell a proportion of their vehicles abroad to access the government’s steel supplies and of course, bring much needed money into the country.
A Morris video from the immediate post war period states 95% of Morris products were exported.
In short, this means more than a handful of Australians were thoroughly well acquainted with the British marques.
Now back to the P76. This is a really interesting creation by British Leyland because many of these earlier vehicles which had arrived in the 40s, 50s and 60s were designed for the British market and with that, were thoroughly unsuitable for the Australian market where drivers were going hundreds of miles and crossing rocky terrain.
The journey to the creation of the car was a logical one: British Leyland knew that to compete in the Australian market with marques such as Ford and Chrysler they needed to make a car which was designed with the terrain, the competition and the customer expectation in mind.
It wasn’t Leyland’s first foray into making an Australian offering and the Kimberley had come before it, but the P76 was the car Leyland Australia saw as the car which would redefine their position in the market.
First off, the car did away with the wheezy engines which had powered their British cousins and the company went in with two engine options to rival the American competitors like the Ford Falcon, Holden Kingswood and Chrysler Valiant and issued the car with a v8 or a 6.
Recognising what Australians were used to, the company designed the vehicle with a 111 inch wheelbase and paired the meaty engine choices with either an automatic or manual, rack and pinion steering and for the suspension the company went with MacPherson struts with coil springs, dampers and anti roll bar to front and four link with coil springs and dampers to rear.
The car also had 35 cubic feet of boot space, which practically tested, was big enough to hide me and the week’s shopping in the boot.
Now all of this was going well so far - Leyland had spent 20 million Australian dollars on the creation of the P76 and it was rigorously tested: Leyland stated within the sales brochures the cars had been tested in three separate operations over four years doing the equivalent of 100,000 miles of testing and they even tested in the Australian outback in the searing heat.
And the car stood up to every challenge, which convinced Leyland it was wise to take the car to market. The car even won Wheels Car of the Year 1973 but then something terrible happened: everything that could go wrong, went wrong.
I talk about this when we go driving but essentially early cars poorly built, an oil crisis, rumoured sabotage from market rivals and silly little errors which could’ve been avoided culminated in the car described on marketing booklets as anything but average becoming anything but reliable.
Leyland tried to combat this with a Buyer Protection Plan covering the car for the first 12,000 miles but the damage was done and buyers weren’t keen.
In the end, quite frustratingly, all the hard work didn’t pay off and the fiesty P76 didn’t cut into the market like it deserved to; selling around 18,000 units. Today, the car is a beloved underdog of classic fanatics in Australia and New Zealand, but with far fewer fans than it should’ve had if everything had gone to plan and hadn’t been overly rushed.

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@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 3 күн бұрын
Hi there! If you’re watching this and noted I said V6 when I meant 6 (I got it right in my voiceover section) and I said exported instead of imported, yes, it’s a mistake. I do these videos entirely unscripted and occasionally you make a mistake whilst remembering a million facts and driving a completely new car. Thank you for understanding!
@gilesflower
@gilesflower 2 күн бұрын
Another interesting point is that it was only the V8 version that won Wheels Car of the Year. Also, the cup holders are more 'cup places', where you would place the cup on the glovebox lid whilst picnicking inside the car. You'll notice the glovebox opens to flat. It was common in Australian cars at the time (and potentially elsewhere, I don't know)
@gilesflower
@gilesflower 2 күн бұрын
(and I think that's a dashboard light dimmer next to the headlight switch)
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser Күн бұрын
@@idriveaclassic I like your reviews. Casual, informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
@jamescourt4703
@jamescourt4703 5 сағат бұрын
I think the registration is a wiltshire uk reg. WV the last 2 letters.
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 6 күн бұрын
Leyland Australia was up against it from the start with the P76. It was a totally fresh design at a time when labour troubles and financial restrictions very much worked against them. The P76 was more advanced than the Ford, Holden, Valiant competitors at the time. It deserved much better.
@robertchapman6795
@robertchapman6795 5 күн бұрын
Better looking too. Far more advanced wedge shape compared to the others! 👍
@saneman8147
@saneman8147 5 күн бұрын
It won the prestigious Wheels magazine Car of the Year in 1973.
@BRETTYZCAR
@BRETTYZCAR 5 күн бұрын
It just won the 2024 Peking to Paris Rally. 1st in classic class and top of the time sheets overall after 37 days and 14 500 km . Such an amazing achievement for a 50 year old Aussie Grand Tourer.
@gilesflower
@gilesflower 2 күн бұрын
@@saneman8147 the V8 version only
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser Күн бұрын
@@davidhynd4435 Trouble was, there were insufficient 44 gallon drums to go in every boot! : )
@BRETTYZCAR
@BRETTYZCAR 5 күн бұрын
An Aussie team in a P76 have just completed The 2024 Peking to Paris Rally and finished 1st in classic class and top of the time sheets overall after 37 days and 14 500 kilometres. A grand feat of achievement from a true Aussie Grand Tourer.
@shaneadams3600
@shaneadams3600 6 күн бұрын
OMG, I've never seen one of these in such great condition! It's better than when it left the factory. Even the taillights look brand new. Never expected to see a P76 on Idriveaclassic and couldn't hit play fast enough!
@ayrproductions
@ayrproductions 6 күн бұрын
Where I grew up, there was a local business owner who had an absolutely mint Targa Florio version which he even drove everyday to and from his workshop. I reckon Steph would love to have a go in the one Force 7V that is in the UK!
@daveowen9481
@daveowen9481 6 күн бұрын
Lovely car, thanks Steph. When they designed it, one of the requirements was that the boot could accomodate a 44 gallon drum!
@garycorbin2789
@garycorbin2789 6 күн бұрын
It does , and if you like the sedan look up the Force 7 and the Targa Florio
@saneman8147
@saneman8147 5 күн бұрын
A complete urban myth.
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 5 күн бұрын
It was never a lovely car, it looked it was designed by a committee.
@garycorbin2789
@garycorbin2789 5 күн бұрын
@@saneman8147 no it's not , do your research. There are photos from Leyland R+D demonstrating this It was also featured on Torque with the late Peter Wherrett It was to pitch to Cockies that a sedan can be used on the selection to haul supplies as well as be used for the families requirements
@daveowen9481
@daveowen9481 4 күн бұрын
@@Neil-Aspinall I mean, this is a lovely example of the car.
@peterwilding1203
@peterwilding1203 6 күн бұрын
G'day Steph. Great to see you got to drive such a polarising local classic, and so beautifully restored. For all that they had their knockers back in the day, I have a friend in his eighties who fondly remembers his P76 as the best car he's ever owned. I reckon he wouldn't be alone!
@tassietony1226
@tassietony1226 5 күн бұрын
I had 5 , 4 V8s and one 6 cyl 2 manual and 3 automatics they were one of the nicest cars I've ever owned
@hunterhomeservicesracing6453
@hunterhomeservicesracing6453 6 күн бұрын
Being from Australia,that is one nice example A friend of mine actually developed these cars and has a great example in his shed When you coming over to Australia,next year we have the morry nationals in WA
@xjet
@xjet 3 күн бұрын
Ah, the P76... fond memories of summers/autumns spent endlessly driving around Australia looking for fruit-picking work back in the 1970s.
@IanRobertson-iu1ev
@IanRobertson-iu1ev 6 күн бұрын
What a fine example of a classic Aussie car. My Dad used to work for Leyland Australia and I still remember being a ten year old and Dad taking to the Zetland (Sydney) factory and showing me a brand new Force 7 car that was suppose to supersede the P76, however never went into mass production.
@chrisrumble2665
@chrisrumble2665 4 күн бұрын
@@IanRobertson-iu1ev Not supersede but run alongside.
@atpete137
@atpete137 5 күн бұрын
I worked for Leyland assembling the P76 when I was a teenager. I used to fit the horrible chrome trim around the windscreen. We had endless problems. NZ farmers loved them as they could get two bales of hay in the boot along with the dog.
@fredeverett4340
@fredeverett4340 4 күн бұрын
Hi Steph, I had the pleasure of owning a 6 cylinder p76 in the late 70s. After doing a pile of work for a roadworthy when I acquired it, I found it a very reliable comfortable car that was also fun to drive. It was a manual and a very throw aroundable car. I guess it was a car ahead of its time. It was a great experience. 🐸
@murrayedgar4791
@murrayedgar4791 6 күн бұрын
My father bought one after an HQ Holden. Yes, it was greedy around town, and there were quality issues, but I remember driving it and the power and handling were so far ahead of the HQ it was unreal. Power sliding around roundabouts was pretty awesome with my limited skills at 16! Sorry Dad.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
They only weighed a tonne.
@neilgerace355
@neilgerace355 5 күн бұрын
Greedier than a HQ?
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
@@jamesfrench7299 1400kg, the same as the original Ford Laser.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 Күн бұрын
@@nickabbott6278 my March 89 Laser (Meteor) sedan weighs 1020kg and that's because it has the auto. Manual weighs just under.
@markmackenzie2533
@markmackenzie2533 3 күн бұрын
What surprise to see this P76 being road tested 50 years after being built, and in the U.K. no less. Greetings from Australia. At last you've driven a really notable car. What great condition this P76 is, and it has been lovingly maintained and improved over the years. These vehicles were a very good car for the time, although they suffered from quality control problems and the usual Australian knockers who can't deal with anything different from the Ford and G.M. examples. Back in 1977 I had the pleasure of driving the V8 version with 4 speed manual transmission and it handled beautifully. I will never forget driving it as I had it for the day. Boy, it went like stink. Yes it had problems with the fit and finish of the internal plastic trim, but it was great fun to drive when powering through the corners and it always braked straight and true. Loved that car and didn't want to give it back. One thing that I really notice is the way in which you use the steering wheel when driving the car. The way your hands are holding the wheel through the corners worries me, as you turn the wheel hand to hand. I was never taught to use the steering like that. Regards Mark
@brucelumsden94
@brucelumsden94 4 күн бұрын
Steph, a Leyland P 76 recently won the Peking to Paris rally. I was 19 when these cars hit the Australian market. At the time Leyland was not only loosing ground to GMH, Ford and Chrysler but particularly the very well presented Japanese imports, new to Australia.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 6 күн бұрын
Just a week or so ago P76 won the Peking to Paris rally Classic class for the third time. To quote : In the fight for the win in the Classic Category it was the familiar Leyland P76 of Matt Bryson that finished first, and top of the time sheets overall, and this is Matt’s fourth Peking to Paris victory, and no doubt an emotional one after the previous three triumphs were shared with the late, great Gerry Crown. It did this beating a Porsche 911S and 912 to second and third. Even further back were Escorts of Mk 1 and 2, Mercedes Benz 450SLC and quite a long list highly regarded cars. Some Lemon to do this over the vast distance of Peking to Paris and for the third time. Good driving team, but they would not choose a bad car for the task. Searching will reward with more vids recently posted.
@barryhood7659
@barryhood7659 6 күн бұрын
in its day it won the East Africa Safari (Evan Green) and the Targa Floria, prompting Leyland to introduce the Targa Floria model which was a v8 super with go fast stripes and other minor trim changes.
@jameslong9845
@jameslong9845 5 күн бұрын
@@barryhood7659 It came 13th, and the event was 1974 London-Sahara-Munich World Cup Rally. Yet another P76 fable.
@RobertConnor-ty6vp
@RobertConnor-ty6vp 5 күн бұрын
And it was Matt's father John who partnered Evan Green on the 1974 London Sahara Munich World Cup Rally in a P76. John was one of the best rally navigators of his generation.
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
Knew they were doing well, so great they won. Targa Florio was the model, only seen two.
@ourcoloredpast1766
@ourcoloredpast1766 6 күн бұрын
Coming from New Zealand, we had them here, but they never really took off. I don't know about build quality, but one thing against them was they came out at the time of the oil crisis and they hadn't had time to establish themselves before big gas guzzlers lost popularity. They were marketed as an executive car, but I think I remember them more as taxis.
@sleepycatpictures1176
@sleepycatpictures1176 6 күн бұрын
This is a lovely car. I filmed it at the Royalty RoadShow last month. These should have been sold in England.
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper 6 күн бұрын
Steph, the six was a 2.6 litre version of the Austin Kimberley 2.2 litre ohc straight six, I had an Austin Kimberley which was a great car ruined by a HORRIBLE engine. The P76 was re designed by a Leyland employee ruining the original Micchelotti design, it was the 2.6 litre six which gave it the reputation of unreliability. I once bought a spare transfer gear for my Kimberley and it had a runout of 75 thousandths of an inch, or 1.9 mm.
@ayrproductions
@ayrproductions 6 күн бұрын
The V8 also played a part too. There was still sand in the bores of some of the V8s from casting which led to overheating issues.
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 6 күн бұрын
It was the bmc e series 6 that had enlarged capacity courtesy of using the increased stroke on the 4 cylinder engines to make the 1.5 into the 1.75. The 6 was first used in Australia 2 years before the uk and once leyland australia closed the engine tooling was moved to south africa
@indyvignale-wu9qk
@indyvignale-wu9qk 6 күн бұрын
My understanding is that the original design was penned by Romand Rodbergh at Leyland Australia, he was not happy with the subsequent revisions by Michelotti and if you look at the original models I would concur that on this occasion the Italians got it wrong. Ultimately it was poor quality control that damaged the P76’s reputation and the perilous state of the Leyland Australia’s finances.
@kelvinh8327
@kelvinh8327 5 күн бұрын
I understand that part of quality problems stem from British Leyland staff coming over and having a hand in production. It had teething problems but was a wonderful design.
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
Strikes and poor management +++ was the main problem for the P76. I heard stories of rejected castings being used because strikes prevented new ones from being made. Also worked with a guy who worked on the line and saw the Force 7 line put into reverse so they could be crushed.
@jeffreywhitehead9386
@jeffreywhitehead9386 6 күн бұрын
I always enjoyed riding in a P76 because they were very comfortable. Here's a fun fact: One proud owner of a Targa Florio, a sports version, always tells the story that nobody ever died in a P76 according to official records. Another wonderful episode Steph and hope you make it out here when the AOMC Florence Thomson Tour is on in February. A wonderful women's event that you could be a part of.
@-DC-
@-DC- 6 күн бұрын
Another Defeat from the Jaws of Victory BL you gotta ❤️em !
@outatime-ew7sz
@outatime-ew7sz 5 күн бұрын
The add for this car showed a person putting a 205 litre oil drum in the boot and fitted with enough space.
@gilesflower
@gilesflower 2 күн бұрын
The oft-forgotten aspect is that it had enough room for a bale of hay and a 44 gallon drum. you have to put the bale in first though.
@simonpage2941
@simonpage2941 Күн бұрын
Well Steph you've educated me! I'm 53 years old & spent quite a while in the motor trade & this is the first time I've ever seen one! Looks very America inspired like most classic Aussie cars! I really like it. Thank you for sharing 😊
@fluffybadger9832
@fluffybadger9832 6 күн бұрын
Think I preferred the dash with the 'wood' trim. I do like a bit of wood even if is fake on a lot of cars.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
I thought that too. The early 70s Japanese black plastic look is awful.
@billjackson4703
@billjackson4703 6 күн бұрын
totally agree, i have always loved the wood grain look in cars.
@stephennx2103
@stephennx2103 4 күн бұрын
An excellent review Steph. I appreciate you reviewing our Aussie history with Leyland Australia. My first car was a lowlight Morris Minor in the 60's. Later a mark 2 Cooper S. I felt sorry for BMC/Leyland in the latter years.
@spynles7947
@spynles7947 6 күн бұрын
My plumbing boss had one of the first of these in NZ, a bright yellow Super. The 4.4 (269) was a good engine as was the rest of the running gear with the most noticeable negative issues being the fit and finish. From memory the trim around the windscreen seemed reluctant to stay in place, on several occasions as did other exterior fittings and trim to a lesser degree. Drove well though and was something a little different from the usual fare of the day. Thanks Steph.
@impgt67
@impgt67 5 күн бұрын
Agree with what you say. I had a friend in Sydney who had a 6 cyl P76 and lost about 4 of the chrome trims on the top of the front windscreen. He went back to the dealer who told him to go direct to the Leyland/Jaguar Spare Parts Warehouse near Liverpool. Mate went in and spoke to Spare Parts Depot Manager, who asked how many he had lost. Mate Colin said about 4. Manager disappears for 5 minutes and come back out with (I think) 6 new trims, and says to Colin, "There you go, that should see you for a while". And all free of charge. But the P76 was so woefully assembled. You would be driving along and the glovebox door would fall off, or the centre console would come loose.. At one stage Colin came around to my house to do some repairs, as the entire left hand side of the dashboard had come loose. I,m surprised they stayed bolted together as long as they did. It was a shame really, as the car itself was a very good handling and riding car, and generally out performed it's Ford, Holden and Chrysler rivals. Cheers. David form Tasmania
@reefhog
@reefhog 3 күн бұрын
@@impgt67Good handling cars don’t roll as easy as these piles of pommy garbage.
@Veryfastslowcar66
@Veryfastslowcar66 2 күн бұрын
As an Aussie always thought these were under appreciated. Speaking of v8s, living in rural Queensland you’d be lucky to walk through town for 5 minutes without hearing a hotty v8 go by still to this day.
@paulmartin7737
@paulmartin7737 5 күн бұрын
My Dad had a V8 4 speed, went like fury but reliability was a real issue. That one is a nice colour, don't remember it here, but looks good, especially matching rocker covers. There is a guy in Sydney who owns a Force 7 Coupe AND what is believed to be the only station wagon in existence, that would have been a great car. I hope when you come here you get to drive some uniquely Australian versions of BMC cars such as Austin Freeway and its cousin the Wolseley 24/80, Kimberley, 6 Cyl Marina and Morris Marshall. A great video, keep them coming
@shanesullivan1192
@shanesullivan1192 3 күн бұрын
P76 was my first V8, cruised all over NZ handled well and was pretty quick in the day
@marklittle3551
@marklittle3551 3 күн бұрын
Kids I went to school with and his parents had a white with blue decals Targa florio edition with four on the floor back in the day.Loved the look and sound of that car.
@chrisrumble2665
@chrisrumble2665 5 күн бұрын
I owned one in the early 80's. That sound brings back some memories. Yes it had some niggles but anyone who says they don't handle either has never driven one or can't drive. BTW The 6 was a straight six - actually 2.6 litre stroked version of the 2.2 in the Kimberley/Tasman.
@jvvoid
@jvvoid 3 күн бұрын
As an Aussie, I can remember as a very young child no-one being agog over a P76 - but now, it's rather venerated.
@grayfool
@grayfool 6 күн бұрын
That's different. Us UK car nuts don't always understand the differences of the car market in other countires. It's very interesting to see models developd for particular countires. That looks like a really nice example of an interesting car. Thanks so much.
@Dave.C937
@Dave.C937 5 күн бұрын
I had one as my first car when i turned 18 in AUS. I fell in love with its comfort & good power range. Of course, being a young idiot driver, i wrote it off saying hello to a tree. I now have my eye on a very nice one in regional Victoria. Fingers crossed the gentlemen wants to sell it soon. Great Video. I really enjoyed it.
@nhilltiger
@nhilltiger 4 күн бұрын
Thanks Steph, an excellent review - never easy reviewing cars from a distant time and market. My father purchased a new 1974 Executive V8 from Kellow-Falkiner in Melbourne. A really nice car, plenty of room and power, good ride and handling. But it did have a few quality issues, and the engine after 5 or so years had problems, he was concerned about parts, so the car was sold. A shame as he liked the car and had analyzed the purchase against the competing Ford/GM products, which also had their assembly issues. It was traditional to return an Australian made car with a defects list on the first service in the '70's. The reasons for the demise of the P76 are many, including rushed development and an under resourced manufacturing plant. Competitor and supplier behavior together with an indifferent Whitlam government all part of the mix. The car you are reviewing is a wonderful sympathetic restoration, not easy getting all those panel and dashboard panels aligned.
@user-ix4wn1th5m
@user-ix4wn1th5m 5 күн бұрын
Being a New Zealander, I'm familiar with this car. I was in my teens in the 1970s. So I remember them being assembled and sold here in NZ. I saw one being raced in 1975 at the Benson & Hedges 500 race event. It was an endurance race for NZ assembled cars. It didn't win , but gave the Australian Fords and Holdens , plus some Chrysler Valiants a run for their money.
@longier3693
@longier3693 6 күн бұрын
I really like the Styling of the P76
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 6 күн бұрын
Me too!
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 6 күн бұрын
Yep, me too. It's a car that deserved to do better than it did.
@crosseyedone7960
@crosseyedone7960 3 күн бұрын
Ahhhh, the "Executive", my dream car. I've still got the tail lights but never got the rest of the car.
@brucebeamish5955
@brucebeamish5955 6 күн бұрын
Yes, Leyland UK were miserly with the funds for Leyland Australia. You mention Chrysler Australia, it was also hamstrung by the parent company
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
I can believe that last part when Chrysler was being poorly run.
@jamesmorgan2448
@jamesmorgan2448 3 сағат бұрын
What a lovely car. I'd never seen or heard of that model until your video came up on my Facebook. :)
@caveman1334
@caveman1334 4 күн бұрын
Always thought that Americans destroyed British car industry. Tonight you confirmed it by showing this lovely car. Thank you
@williamhoffmann1445
@williamhoffmann1445 6 күн бұрын
I’m no P76 expert, but the aircon in this car looks like an aftermarket (from the era) rather than factory installation. That sticker on the rear windscreen is also consistent with that.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 6 күн бұрын
Quite right. Took many years before airconditioning was standard factory fitted. Even the Australian made car our family bought in 1986 had the air conditioning dealer fitted.
@leylandp38
@leylandp38 6 күн бұрын
There was also a factory aircon option but probably more, like this one, were dealer fitted at purchase when new.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
Looks nice all the same.
@karibakid
@karibakid 5 күн бұрын
@@johnd8892 Yes MITSUBISHI the Dealer in Townsville Qld Came from factory less Aircon goods for the parts dept monthly bonus
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
Agree with below, My Super had 2 vent aircon, fitted by the dealer, factory had four levers in the heater control box and was vented through the main under dash rail. Only ever on the Executive and I've only seen one with factory aircon. This car is too over modified for me.
@Grumpy-sy7wr
@Grumpy-sy7wr 5 күн бұрын
I had a 6 cylinder Super, and apart from a notable lack of low end torque, everything about the car was better than the big 3 offerings. Very much a drivers car in every aspect. Handling was one of its better points, compared with the other 3. 10:30 it was actually a V8 or inline 6 E engine, a 1725 with 2 added cylinders making 2.6 litres. That particular air conditioner is an aftermarket unit. The factory unit was integrated, with central vents matching those shown at the ends of the dash.
@richardprice7763
@richardprice7763 5 күн бұрын
I'm always jealous that Australians got full sized cars with proper sized engines.
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 6 күн бұрын
That interior is magnificent. Currently in Australia, there is very active P76 clubs in every state of Australia . They are very well supported and excellent cars to drive.
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 5 күн бұрын
I can picture these people, my God.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 5 күн бұрын
There’s no need to insult perfectly friendly people. Everyone has harmless interests. We aren’t here to punch down. Thanks.
@weldmachine
@weldmachine 2 күн бұрын
I remember a mate buying a second hand Leyland P76 in the Melbourne Trading Post. He only wanted to buy it for the Motor and Transmission. From memory ??, the Engine was an all Alloy 260 cubic inch V8 ?? He finished up putting the motor in a Ford Escort. Unfortunately it didn't last long after a another mate pretty much destroyed the car after using another set of keys to get the car started and took it out for a drive and ran it through someone's front yard after losing control of it at a roundabout ??? Most of the damage was on the front of the car including the Engine Block ???
@user-ri1by1sg2p
@user-ri1by1sg2p 5 күн бұрын
They were a great car, ignoring the problems of the time. Here in Australia, we had lots of British cars, particularly in the 60s and 70s including off course the Land Rover and it’s interesting that the 4.4 V8s in the 076 found their way into early Range Rovers. There was one Dealer in Melbourne, maybe in other states too, who were including them as dealer option as they did provide more power to replace the 3.5L (I’m taking Metric, not imperial here), Rover engine as they were similar in design. Anyway, great episode, thanks. Andy.
@user-bm3ve3pv2n
@user-bm3ve3pv2n 5 күн бұрын
It wasn't a lemon. I owned one for a few years, never let me down. The fact that the P76 went from a blank piece of paper to the showroom for $20 million was a minor miracle. Also, Leyland Australia has started producing the Force 7, a two door hatchback, along with one station wagon that was due for release. Unfortunately, Leyland in Britian pulled the plug.
@davepax982
@davepax982 5 күн бұрын
I've owned 2 of these. Enjoyed every second with them.
@Lonewolf-kw8gg
@Lonewolf-kw8gg 6 күн бұрын
I believe the six cylinder was a straight 6 not v6, also I got to drive one of these (manual column shift v8) from Antwerp to Amsterdam about 20 odd years ago, I think it was one of maybe 3 examples of this car in Europe at the time and owned by a member of Rover owners club in Belgium.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
2.6 litre OHC inline six.
@user-uj1tr3iz1v
@user-uj1tr3iz1v 6 күн бұрын
What a stunning car
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 6 күн бұрын
Hard agree. Was gutted to hand back to Craig.
@murraydawson8407
@murraydawson8407 6 күн бұрын
It's a beauty all right! They were also sold here in NZ but they were always rare as you say, and I haven't seen one in years.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 күн бұрын
There are two regulars in my area north of Sydney, one a yellow colour and the other a hotted up project car in black.
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 6 күн бұрын
The Leyland P76 is quite collectable in Australia and l saw two P76s 3 years ago a very rare sight in Australia but there out there and the P76 has been modified to get some high horse power figures
@garthpetch4173
@garthpetch4173 2 күн бұрын
The alloy V8 was a common aftermarket replacement engive for the Triumph Stag after original one overheated on a 35c day
@na-turbo
@na-turbo 17 сағат бұрын
Wow Steph what an amazing car , a true credit to the owner / owners I love everything about it from the colour to the wheels the modifications really suit it
@timbrown8581
@timbrown8581 5 күн бұрын
The P76 is a great car! Sabotage by the rival makers is definitely probable, especially from a marketing view! The oil crisis was critical to all Australian vehicles manufacturers, especially V8's. I've got mates with P76 Targa Floria's and Executives and they are an awesome vehicle and a fabulous piece of Australian motoring history. Great review!
@EVISEH
@EVISEH 3 күн бұрын
It was the Unions which sabotaged the P76 The Unions caused strikes in the factories of the component suppliers to Leyland, leading to almost complete P76s being stockpiled in holding yards awaiting fitment of things such as door handles and other things. Subsequently there was a delay in delivery of cars to buyers with many buyers ultimately cancelling their orders for the car and buying instead from Ford.Holden, Chrysler.
@mandywithell
@mandywithell 4 күн бұрын
As kid growing up in Northern Tasmania, having just got off the bus from school, I remember seeing one on the Roland Highway at Spreyton. A friend told me what it was and exclaimed, "That's one of those new cars that keep blowing up"! Researching this I have never found any records of this occurring - unlike of course the Pinto! I am not sure the Pinto was sold in Australia so it is a bit of a mystery to me why my friend uttered what he said. Perhaps just another urban myth around the P76.
@australiantruckspotting8883
@australiantruckspotting8883 2 күн бұрын
The seats and interior were actually pretty nice.
@michaelbressette2599
@michaelbressette2599 3 күн бұрын
What an interesting car. My Frist Impression was FORD LTD & Ford Fairlane & 1971 Ford Cortina 1600 GXL then I kept looking at the walk around & decided it had elements of the Chevrolet Caprice Classic. its got a lot of classic attributes of cars from that period such as upholster styles, dashboards etc very sharp car. The one thing that really got to me was the interior. The longer I looked at it the more I realized I didn't expect this type of interior It fits right in with the late 1970's $ 80's as you stated, but there is something else about it that stands our from the other V8 cars of that time. You stated MEAN as a personality & I agree with that it has an attitude of A MATTER OF FACT I compare that to a light smack in the face feeling to it. I've never seen one of these cars before but from the sound of you driving over the speed bumps, this car is a work horse. I really get that vibe just from the sound of the suspension & hitting the speed bump. The simplicity of the dashboard reminds me of the early 70's Chevy Nova & Mid 70's Pontiac but these are due to tiny nuances many overlook like that threaded or stitching pattern on the end edge of the dashboard. That was some driving at time index 14:11 / 21:34 I wash absorbed by the ever increasing speed & how the car floated side to side up & down & it kind of spaced me out watching it but it really held the turns well. LOL what an absolutely beautiful car. It literally has everything in basic terms & sounds as good as it drives from a viewer point of view. I can imagine the drive :D
@rosewood1
@rosewood1 4 күн бұрын
Nice review. I owned 2 P76 a 2.6 and manual V8 and also drove the V8 with 4 speed toploader. All of them drove well and handling was excellent especially if you fitted a heavier front sway bar. The 4 speed V8 was faster than the equivalent Ford and Holden V8 GTs. The bodies were light with extensive use of alloy front and rear. Seats were comfortable and durable. With tuning they were very fast and the Executive very plush . The car to buy of course is the Targa Florio version and fit the 4 speed. Negatives. There were silly design flaws in the trim clips, window winders, wiper motor gear and a few other minor issues. As a classic they make a great viable classic that is robust and relatively cheap to run. Much under rated. But be careful of those front indcator lenses. The car is wider than most.
@justinmccarthy1962
@justinmccarthy1962 5 күн бұрын
I remember the Ministry of Transport Traffic Department had undercover mufti cars here in New Zealand and the officer's liked the car and a family friend made the black paint that went behind the instrument panel.The Executive model that I owned handled well
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 5 күн бұрын
I recall Ian test drove one of these...wonders...in Tasmania a number years ago. Without all the grease, oil and scratches on poor Hubnut's machine, the INTENT of Leyland's designers shines through. This example you've driven looks to be in stunning nick. There are fewer...distractions...on this car. This one HAD to be a unicorn for you, and I'm glad you were able to drive it and show us what it's all about. Lovely.
@angusnz7910
@angusnz7910 6 күн бұрын
That’s a fantastic example!
@gregpies1649
@gregpies1649 5 күн бұрын
Ford and Holden were so well entrenched in Australia and the oil crisis put an end to the P76 being widely being accepted.
@TheStobb50
@TheStobb50 4 күн бұрын
Thankyou apart from being well presented and very informative, I would recognise the p76 I didn’t know much about them. The real pleasure was the drive down the A660 it’s a beautiful road never been there for a long time and it looks like you got nice day for it 👍
@levelcrossing150
@levelcrossing150 5 күн бұрын
Great looking car, so far from what we are used to from Leyland Cars.
@robertchapman6795
@robertchapman6795 5 күн бұрын
Wow. At 4:00 you’re talking about suspension, and the way it rolls off your tongue is like poetry! A lady who knows her McPherson struts, Panhard rods and I-beams. You speak authoratively with elegance! Keep up the great vids!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 5 күн бұрын
Thank you. I have grappled with suspension for years on various terrible cars so it is something I am familiar with
@robertchapman6795
@robertchapman6795 5 күн бұрын
@@idriveaclassic Well your struggles have paid off Steph! 👍I have fond memories of one of my primary school teacher’s and her husband’s Targa Florio with honeycomb wheels and V8. Also another which sat in the driveway of a house unused for decades! I was mid teens and doing the morning paper round in the mid 80’s when I first noticed it. It finally disappeared about 5 years ago. 😢 Also, a farmhouse that I drive by every other weekend has three sitting in their open machinery shed. I always wonder whether to ask the question of them!? 🤔😁👍
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 4 күн бұрын
The tacho on the test car was standard OE fitment for the Super and the Executive. The supplier was VDO in Heidelberg, a suburb of Melbourne. The only P76 model that didn't come with a tacho was the Deluxe range. The Deluxe came with two Lucas 7" round headlights, whereas the rest had four of the Lucas 5.75" round headlights.
@chrisharkin3741
@chrisharkin3741 4 күн бұрын
Super and Exec had a clock, not a tacho. I think only Force 7s had a tacho??
@craigburman8558
@craigburman8558 3 күн бұрын
⁠In NZ none had a tacho as standard, just a clock.
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 3 күн бұрын
@@chrisharkin3741 Dunno Chris, coz I can't remember; it's getting to be a long time ago! 🤣
@geoffb108
@geoffb108 6 күн бұрын
I had a leyland terrior truck in Australia with a v8.. They had lots of p76 engines after production stopped so the put them in the terriors. Great engine ,did me well. Much quicker than my tk bedford
@christophervalentine8021
@christophervalentine8021 4 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you. My recollection of these is that they were more infamous for being a flop, rather than innately bad cars. The front and rear styling lacked cohesion with the profile I think.
@Roy-gi5ul
@Roy-gi5ul 5 күн бұрын
As a Pom, this is new to me! And what a well proportioned design it is.I love it.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 6 күн бұрын
Beautiful looking car. I consider it unforgivable that it was barely on the Australian market for very long before being discontinued. You'd think they would've done a better job at developing and testing the car for Australian roads. Given how long British Leyland has been in Australia, you'd think they'd know how things work.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 6 күн бұрын
Leyland UK shutting the whole Australian plant down rather than just the P76. A panic move under severe UK financial pressures.
@andrewwillis5113
@andrewwillis5113 6 күн бұрын
Leyland Australia went bust and they only crawled along for a few more years making the Mini and Moke models .
@anthoneymahateva5851
@anthoneymahateva5851 22 сағат бұрын
Such a great video with a very nice looking classic sedan and this lady's presentation is exceptionally wonderful.
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 5 күн бұрын
The P-76 had so much potential, and the FORCE 7 Version was a great design. The unions had some responsibility for its demise.
@karibakid
@karibakid 5 күн бұрын
What else have unions ruined
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 5 күн бұрын
@@karibakid they fund the useless Government we have, which is ruining the country.
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
@@karibakid and poor management, they colluded to bring out the worst of both worlds in OZ and also it seems in the UK.
@BlueyChandler
@BlueyChandler 5 күн бұрын
Beautiful example and colour. Good analysis.
@slh950
@slh950 2 күн бұрын
lol its a top of 12 today so mid 20's would be heaven! great video!
@Dmountnugent
@Dmountnugent 6 күн бұрын
Had to smile about your comment about the Speedo being in KM. I moved to Ireland in the 1980s bringing my UK registered car with me. For some weeks I couldn't understand how I was travelling from place to place so quickly. A 40 mile journey was only taking me 20 minutes. It only dawned on me after about two weeks that road signs were in km not miles 😂
@bossdog1480
@bossdog1480 2 күн бұрын
That one you have there is a very nice example of a modified one. The colour is not standard nor is the trim. They had really good seats with lots of lumbar support. That one is a later model as the speedo is in K's. The earlier ones had both. We were just changing over to metric when these were built. The woodgrain was rubbish and used to warp early in the piece. They were really good on fuel. We used to get 27mpg on the highway out of our family one, and the tew I owned.
@MineshShah
@MineshShah 5 күн бұрын
Lovely review of an interesting car... Would look great with a set of period correct Wolfrace Slot Mags...
@allanmollison6971
@allanmollison6971 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Steph. Hope the Morris Rally went well over the weekend. All the best for your car meet next weekend. 😊👍
@Tk-ou9ec
@Tk-ou9ec 5 күн бұрын
Also there was the “sports” version on the P76 called the Force 7! Bloody nice.
@chriswestoby9986
@chriswestoby9986 5 күн бұрын
That car is proper sick! The styling of those rear lights is next level!
@nickabbott6278
@nickabbott6278 5 күн бұрын
There was so much bad rap for the rear, I always thought it was great.
@realjohnboxall
@realjohnboxall 5 күн бұрын
Brilliant, as an Australian this is a highlight. Thank you :)
@peterlee5535
@peterlee5535 6 күн бұрын
Two videos in one weekend! You are treating us Steph :) This car is simply stunning! It's a shame we didn't get this in the UK as a rival to the Granada.
@mickt6016
@mickt6016 6 күн бұрын
Wow ive not seen a P76 in years, looks to be in great condition and a true credit to the owner. Indeed they were sadly unloved here in oz. Thanks for another informative and awesome review Steph...best channel on youtube by far. Btw i was very jealous at your "hot" sunny weather as its currently a chilly 2 degrees in rural NSW atm although that said it is also midnight lol.
@chrisgeorge007
@chrisgeorge007 3 күн бұрын
hi steph , amazing videos , love this old layland , its a bit before my time , i came to australia 2006 , most cars then were commodor ford falcan , and dear a compliment on your skin colour tights , a nice different from the black opaque , very beautiful dress :)
@jockwar
@jockwar 5 күн бұрын
when I first seen one in Oz with the L badge I ran for the hills & with looks only a mother could love but good review on a good example
@UncleBooBoo
@UncleBooBoo 6 күн бұрын
Beautiful looking car, shame they didn't build it in the UK. Thanks for sharing it with us Steph.
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 6 күн бұрын
They thought about importing it here - two were brought over for testing and evaluation by BL. At least one of them still exists, an orange one that as of late 2022, had been sold on eBay requiring a full restoration.
@phillipleeds296
@phillipleeds296 5 күн бұрын
Hi from Australia, Steph. Great video, I’ve sent the link to my old friend who was Leyland Australia’s purchasing manager at the time of the P76, right up until the end of production. I’m sure he’ll like to see you enjoying it so much. Cheers.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 5 күн бұрын
Tell him if he finds a good one, he knows where I am (waiting in England to ship it over 😂)
@phillipleeds296
@phillipleeds296 5 күн бұрын
@@idriveaclassic Will do!
@joparish1037
@joparish1037 5 күн бұрын
Bit of a Mercury Cougar vibe going on in the side profile. Brilliant video showing all the styling details and under bonnet etc. and interesting dialogue too. Thank you 👍
@Your.Uncle.AngMoh
@Your.Uncle.AngMoh 2 күн бұрын
My thought is that the front end resembles a larger version of what became the wedgie Austin and Vanden Plas Princess models in the UK.
@billjackson4703
@billjackson4703 6 күн бұрын
One of the selling points on these cars back then was that, while sitting in the car, its windscreen wipers were hidden from sight, unlike cars from the 'big 3' manufactures.
@Tk-ou9ec
@Tk-ou9ec 5 күн бұрын
And the other selling point was that you could fit a 44 gallon drum In the boot! Why I don’t know?
@billjackson4703
@billjackson4703 4 күн бұрын
@@Tk-ou9ec in the Leyland showroom at their release, i remember seeing a P76 on the showroom floor , displaying an open boot with a 44 gallon drum inside !
@Blue-6
@Blue-6 6 күн бұрын
Well it's 5:00PM on an Australian afternoon for me 👍.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 6 күн бұрын
Ooohh I’ve caught you just in time for tea
@Blue-6
@Blue-6 6 күн бұрын
@@idriveaclassic Fantastic
@squirrel6158
@squirrel6158 6 күн бұрын
Steph u love it 🤪
@kenem1946
@kenem1946 6 күн бұрын
5.37pm for this Aussie
@playedon78
@playedon78 6 күн бұрын
5:43 for me
@choryferguson2196
@choryferguson2196 5 күн бұрын
Really spiffy machine! Thanks for sharing.
@DB-sh4rj
@DB-sh4rj Күн бұрын
That was my car in Western Australia before I sold it to the current owner in England.
@gwheregwhizz
@gwheregwhizz 6 күн бұрын
Love it but... I'm not convinced they tested those 'vegan leather' seats by sitting on them in the heat of the outback 🥵.
@volvo480
@volvo480 6 күн бұрын
Those seats don't look original, or are they? And did it come with a/c back in the day?
@jaygee5693
@jaygee5693 6 күн бұрын
@@volvo480 Factory a/c was an option, even on the Executive.
@EVISEH
@EVISEH 5 күн бұрын
Pre-production prototype P76s was extensively tested in outback Australia , so yes the seats were certainly tested in the outback heat, and if you still doubt that they were, a quick search of the web will reveal many photos of the cars being tested in outback conditions.
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 4 күн бұрын
This car has been re-trimmed. Leather wasn't standard. The Executive had brocade seats. My Deluxe (manual with three-on-the-tree) had bench seats in vinyl.
@johnpritchard2772
@johnpritchard2772 5 күн бұрын
Hello Steph, what a great car, very unusual to see this model built by "Leyland" - what a shame not built in the UK / Europe!! I am reminded of driving a Holden - which had a similar ride qualities. Very enjoyable video report
@JohnEvans-zo7kk
@JohnEvans-zo7kk 6 күн бұрын
What a great looking car, nice review as ever you have matched your outfit to the car.
@rogermaybank9345
@rogermaybank9345 6 күн бұрын
Steph, I did 250 miles to Sunderland for a gig and 250 miles back to Norwich. Managed it but got home at 3am and was completely exhausted!!
@anthonytallarida4192
@anthonytallarida4192 6 күн бұрын
Another great video Steph, I love how you were so super excited for this one, we have some good examples here in Australia, did you know it was the only sedan (saloon as you call them) to fit a 44gallon drum in the boot?
@barkingboyuk
@barkingboyuk 5 күн бұрын
Car looks awesome!
@David77646
@David77646 5 күн бұрын
When I was at Highschool in the early 1980’s , in West Auckland , New Zealand , one of the school teachers owned one
@charliegardner6804
@charliegardner6804 6 күн бұрын
Nice car, great video thanks for sharing 👍.
@EVISEH
@EVISEH 5 күн бұрын
The car did have some quality control and reliability issues but so did its Ford, Holden and Chrysler rivals, it however was the relentless anti BMC/LEYLAND propaganda on the part of the Australian motoring media which ultimately sunk it. At the time the P76 came out, there was a growing perception that cash strapped Leyland Australia was in financial trouble - a perception which was largely being fanned by the motoring press - and that the P76 was a desperate last ditch effort on the part of Leyland Australia to stay afloat.. As a result buyers stayed away from buying Leyland products. Like most things in the car world once a car gets a bad reputation, it's almost impossible for that car to shake it, that was very much the case with P-76.
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