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The problem with suboxone for me was the complete absence of desire for any form of social contact, as well as the testosterone suppression. I absolutely could not enjoy lifting weights, regardless of how hard I tried my strength was capped at about the level it was during high school when I was 140lbs. Having said that without the sublocade injection I never would have gotten off. Anyone who wants to get off suboxone, switch to sublocade. You can just stop getting the injection when you feel ready and there is NO tangible WD symptoms. I'm 6 months off and have experienced nothing, but feel incredible and am strong once again.

I've been on it for 12 years and the longer that I'm on it I noticed that it suppresses My emotions and happiness

Yo facts. I feel like suboxone is clouding my brain and spirit and im.just a shell

Lets be honest. As a fellow Suboxone patient, you dont think about it as much , but anytime you go to the pharmacy and your script wasn't called over and they are about to close its right back to where you were 16 years ago , panic mode .

I was on it for years. Switched and got 2 Sublocaid shots. Currently 8 weeks since the last one. I've had spiritual experiences with God with med

I took my last buprenorphine 12 days 8 hours ago. You don't know how it affects you until you quit buprenorphine. I finally took the time to look at my life before ALL opiates and realized the lethargy that took over on the meds. In 12 days, i suddenly want to be around people. I suddenly like music again. I like driving my car. Going on walks. Enjoying horror movies. I can honestly say, after days of hell, that buprenorphine literally changed who i am.

I was on for 10 years, I would have preferred to stop at 5-6. Dulls emotions slowly, a bit more every year. Sexual and quality of life side effects as well. I'm hoping it will all come back eventually now that I'm off.

Suboxone does save lives and saved mine but man it should only be used for a week or two minimum Imho... Dude is in denial and I'm not judging bc I was once in his shoes but until you are opioid free you just wouldn't understand how much it truly suppresses you and just makes you content with life... Praying for all of those who suffer from addiction/dependency bc it's a b!iotch!!!

I'm currently on suboxone. While I'm still clean off all other opiates / drugs [besides THC] BUT I want to quit eventually and plan on getting on sublocade again. It's a once a month injection that helps you taper down easier without having to dose daily. God's the only answer 🙏

I’ve been in stasis for the past 10 years on suboxone. Little to no passion. Gained weight because I didn’t care how I looked. Been tapering off the past 2 years (more aggressively the past year) and I’m feeling things I haven’t felt in a decade. Music is painfully beautiful again. My husband and I are becoming closer again. But the worst thing is the anxiety I haven’t felt in a decade is rushing in and I’m completely unequipped to handle it because I’ve been numb for so long. Pretty sure my thyroid disease stemmed from opiate abuse and I’ll never be the same again. I can’t speak for anyone else but using suboxone long term and not even trying to get off of it to see if I could stay clean has been one of the biggest mistakes of my life.

There’s nothing wrong with being on Suboxone - aside from when you’ve been on it for too long, the well dries up, you’re low on dopamine, and you’d rather die than be alive or quit the medication. I think a lot of patients tend to forget how much better they felt sober, and they’re so stuck in the addict mindset - which Suboxone can help or worsen, that they’re afraid to give it a shot. But the fact is that being on a long half life opioid like Suboxone DOES affect your brain function and absolutely dulls life for most people. It’s happened to 99% of the people I’ve talked to. I think people are just so terrified to quit or have a reason to stop taking it that they make excuses like this for it - I’ll go back to thinking about using all the time. So why not (instead of using a MAT drug) get into therapy, try psychedelic therapy, get into mindfulness, anything to help heal the underlying issue of addiction? Because it’s a lot of work. And this is where Suboxone IS very beneficial, you put time between yourself and the last high, you can stabilize your life, but then what? Just continue being an addict forever? I mean, if you’re still going into mild withdrawal every morning and every afternoon, and you’re still going to think about using without it - don’t you think you’re neglecting the “recovery” part of recovery? This is such a common problem and it boggles my mind, but healthcare is so poor in this country, people just don’t realize what they need to actually work on their recovery. They’d rather put it off and stay a functioning addict than even try fixing the whole issue itself. And listen, I get it, addiction is multi faceted and recovery is not one size fits all. It’s why I don’t think everyone should be in AA or NA, BUT I do think everyone should try the 12 steps. I mean look, if you want to stay a functioning addict and you’re happy with that, that’s your right. If people want to keep feeding into that MAT industry for the rest of their life and have that added expense, that’s cool with me. I’m just saying that it’s a bit ignorant to assume you can never fully recover without even attempting it - or to assume your life is only going to be as good as it is on the medication, when we know how much it dampens brain function. And I’ve seen that many many people who stay on suboxone eventually want to get off, because like with ANY dopaminergic drug as powerful as an opioid, the well eventually dries for most people, and quality of life ends up quite low. If you’re thinking about getting well and clean again, completely, I believe in you. If you truly want to stay a functioning addict on MAT forever, I support that too, I’m just saying consider all your options, and realize that you don’t HAVE to be a slave your entire life.

subs saved my life , i am tired though of being on them

Suboxone is only intended for short time use…. Anyone taking it long term is doing themselves a disservice.

Im wondering if it is spiritually blocking me. I've been on it for like a month and it helps ease my depression because of the consequences of my actions in addiction but i can't really feel God working in my life. My life is horrible. No prayers are being answered. None. I can't get a job. I mean the list goes on and on. I got like 15 strips left. I may not be able to throw them away but I'll def not fill the next script. Im done with them. I need the Lord

I took the CCAR training!! What a great class! What a blessing of an opportunity! I thank Christ alone for every milestone that I’ve rendered during this journey! Praise God I was n am still able to continue

I’m on it for life and I’m proud and spiritually solid with suboxone ❤️

this is how i feel rn kind of saying its bupe that’s saving me but at the same time im realizing that tho i am definitely better than when i was peak on fent, i still have 0 energy to socialize. i used to like driving but i just don’t find the joy anymore. i tried tapering off suboxone but it makes me feel like shit

In 10 years when you teeth rot out and you havn't had a sex drive for years due to low testosterone levels, gastrointestinal issues and cant shit. Hope you have the courage to change.

Suboxone absolutely affects your life. Positive and negative. I was on for 15 years and used sublocade to get off. My physical hooks of Bupe are brutal. Multiple sublocade shots can be used to get off Suboxone. Bupe is an opiate. A string one. Life with No Suboxone or sublocade is beautiful. If this guy thinks his life is good now, get off and feel the real freedom.

Suboxone was great for the first year or year and a half I was on it, then one day…. I just stopped wanting to interact with people and suddenly had a VERY high level of social anxiety. I literally feel like a ROBOT on this crap now. Also, my s3x drive is nearly NON-EXISTENT. I could go DAYS not even really thinking about it!! It’s AMAZING for people who are heavily addicted to H, pills, or other opiates- a life saver…. But it’s not a good lifelong solution for like 90% of people honestly. It’s an opiate and it is NOT healthy. I started a slow taper just last week because it’s doing NOTHING for me anymore.

Today August shoot whatever day it is 2023 I think it's the 27 it's my 2nd day going fourth getting off of the suboxone by myself, Tired of waiting around for the doctors to help me get off ,so im doing it co Turkey, I got a bottle tequila helping me I don't drink I never drink but I'm making An exception to get me off of this drug. Right now I'm cold and my stomach hurts really bad and anxiety is through the roof and it's only 1 day. God help me. Please pray for me.

This is insane. So, i've never really been prescribed Suboxone, I just ended up on it after trying to stop taking opioids and I asked a friend for help and that's how I discovered it. I've always been close to God and had a great relationship with Him, but I was wondering why this past year I haven't been myself spiritually and I haven't been able to give myself to God like I used to and I told myself it was these drugs that were affecting me this dramatically and it's just so crazy to hear someone else say it and know what it feels like but still not be able to stop.. Man I could cry right now, I just want my life back.

I'm on it and 10 years later here u still am. Stuck addicted to suboxone. The withdrawal is 10× worse than herion. Think before u take this crap long term.

I been on suboxone for 4 and a half years straight this tjme around. I had all kinds of health issues which I know are caused by the suboxone. I been on a very low dose the past 2 years. It gets tough under 2 mg. I have way less side effects at the lower dose and I want to get completely off this poison. I am doing a long slow taper and just recently cut from 1.5 mg to 1 mg. Its been a month and I definitely feel mild withdrawal late at night and early in the morning before I dose. At the same time I feel my personality slowly coming back. I know I will have a better life when I am off it completely. I plan to talk to my doctor about getting off it. I will cut my dose again when I feel ready. I had to get on hrt because my estrogen was basically zero. It definitely takes a toll on the body. My blood work was showing elevated liver enzymes and hypothyroidism but after lowering my dose and doing cleanses along with healhier eating I was able to get these things under control

It does affect your life. I have been on suboxone way to long and as a male it has totally screwed my hormones up. My test levels fell off a cliff. So that is the "silent" problem with the suboxone. Don't get me wrong my life has done a complete 180 on it but yea it has affected my health.

I’m tapering off as we speak. I can’t take suboxone for the rest of my while.

Nothing can stop Jesus or the Holy Spirit from entering your mind or body. With God anything is possible.

Suboxone is all well and good until you have to come off of the suboxone. People go from being dependent on the drug dealer to being dependent on the suboxone doctors. Anyone that has got off suboxone will tell you that there are some serious long lasting withdrawals. Unless you literally stay on sub for the rest of your life, there is going to be a time that you have to suboxone withdrawals. The longer you are on it, the worse the withdrawal will be.

im not gonna sell my kids Christmas gifts for subs but on subs i don't really care about Christmas. Everything is just blah whatever oh well i don't care..

Suboxone sucks. I’m not sure it’s a good thing. It numbed my emotions and ambitions for years. I went from being dependent on one thing my Dr prescribed to being dependent on another. Same crap without the high. lol

Hey everyone look up the lawsuit for it rotting your teeth

So I understand what this man is saying to my core. This is the reason I came off of suboxone. Although, as I sit here 9months no sub, I’m struggling with my daily life things. It’s a serious struggle and I’m someone who has been peak health. Cold baths meditation and all kinds of good shit. Since coming off of suboxone I can’t get my mind back there to health. It’s frustrating. Thinking strongly of going back on just a 1/2mg or something. It’s easy for others to say and think how life will be without but for some of us, we need the sub to be stable and that’s ok. It’s also ok for others to not understand that.❤❤❤❤

Suboxone does for me what oxycodone did for me. As long as I take my dose each day I am not constantly thinking of getting high to get thru the day and I'm able to concentrate on life instead of getting and using dope from people I don't know, don't like, don't trust, and who rip me off. I don't pawn my family's belongings then lie to them about what happened to them.

I'd say it takes more like 10 minutes a day lol. But it does help a lot. I comepeltly disagree though. I think My life would be much better If I can get off buprenorphine, and stay clean. But if I'm not ready at the moment I don't think it would be better if I stopped. It would be vetter if I felt I was ready to stop. Overtime when on buprenorphine your brain is able to heal back to normal, other than your opiate receptors. So if you wait long enough to get off, quitting it will be much safer than just jumping straight off it.

Nothing can cloak the power of God,how dare s.o say that Suboxone does that

Only an addict can understand and I believe that God knows our hearts and he knows we're trying to do better it doesn't block me from my spirituality that's for sure if I wasn't on Suboxone I'm more likely to relapse but a person that is not an addict would never understand it's a disease it's a sickness it doesn't go away

That’s why I quit “recovery rooms” and did it my way/ suggestion of great people I love way. Nothing to do with steps. Opinions like his and a million others all judging each others opinion. Can’t believe I was forced through those rooms for years.

So he admitted something most addicts feel.. the problem with dope is everything caused by it being illegal. The inflated price, chasing down a dealer, not getting jacked, not getting arrested, not getting used or tricked by other users, and all the other side effects of it being illegal, which explains why they always worry and premeditate every moment around getting having it and doing it. This proves that if you can get a reliable consistent and unadulterated product for a realistic price or covered by insurance that the actual effect of the drug itself is not the biggest obstacle. Obviously suboxone is partial and a full O causes more effects but it’s legal status produces most of the negative aspects.

Every drug needs to be sold the way alcohol is sold.

*****Guys- if u can come off it, great. If not, and ur on a small dose like 2mg, then that is not causing horrendous issues in your life like what I’m seeing in these comments! And, isn’t 2 mg better than a) chancing withdrawal by coming off and b) risking going back to using? Makes no sense! Why would u stop something that’s working!!!!????

These doctors are hilarious. Suboxone suppresses hormones, motivation, cravings yes. It’s funny how the only form of understanding doctors have is with their experiences with their patients. Of course life is better. But now I’m on a legal and safe drug. And I’m reminded every day of the fatal mistake I made touching opiates so many years ago.

Suboxone is known to make people feel dull and sad

The worst issue with suboxone with me is the constipation, It doesnr affect me at all, i feel 100% normal, mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, never been better. But nothing can be perfect. i constantly walk around with a full stomach, can only use the bathroom once a week normally unless i take a handfull of laxatives. i fear one day the lack of bowl movement will end me up in the hospital. i went from taking a full sub once a day (8mg) to tapering myself down to next to nothing, i literally rip off a tiny corner once in the morning and once before bed. but it really messed up me being able to use the bathroom normally. i used to go everyday, everymorning, after any meal. & now i feel like my stomach is gonna explode most the time, feel so heavy. anyone have any solution? besides taking abunch of laxatives, i try to avoid that as you dont want your body to become dependent on laxatives to use the bathroom, bc you would loose 100% control and not to mention they cause colon cancer. So any natural organic solutions. Or how to get off with little to no withdrawal.

What happens when you need a surgery. Then what? Im on it and right now im trying to get off of it. 48 hours since last dose i pray i never have to touch it again. I tapered down to about 1mg a day now im just trying to stop cold turkey

The injection did not work for me. Now I'm tapering. Plan to try injection again in 2 mths, just to see if it will work better. But 4 mths post shot, I have a knot where I got the injection. I experienced full withdrawals, chills, anxiety, dieherra, rls, ans my dr thinks it was all mental. Idk if she did something wrong in injecting, or if the shit itself malfunctioned, but it didn't disolve, and withdrawls were terrifying. Been on Box for 4 and 1/2 yrs, was an iv addict for 13 yrs. Suboxone was a TOOL that helped me save my own life. Just until last mth, I had totally accepted taking Box forever, if that is what it took, but now, I'm starting to worry about my teeth (always had beautiful teeth, and I'm not trying to lose them cause of Box,) and I agree, that, yes, there is a spiritual component, that has recently become a major factor for me, personally. If there's anyone who had sucess with the Suboxone shot after an unfortunate 1st Drs attempt, plz let me know. Take care, everyone ⭐ 💜

I’m a born again believer battling addiction to opiates, im about to start sub treatment and even I know it blocks YAHs manifestations, Holy Spirit, and full will for your life. I hope I can get off of them as quick as possible. But my spirit is telling me to stay away difficult decision for me . Almost 20 years of opiate use got me weary

What if the supply lines are no more and you cant get it anymore?

I’ve been off suboxone for 4 months now and I’m just waiting for the day I’ll feel normal again😩

The suboxone injection (dont remember the brand name) helped me quit suboxone. At the end of the medication i was taking 100mg every month and a half. Took me roughly 7 months to quit. Its been a couple years now

Hello everyone, i am 19 on suboxone and been using for about a year now, the doeses ive been on throught time hasnt been more then 1mg a day, right now im taking .25 mg per day ready to finally get off this medication but right now it seems to be the hardest with mental health because throughout the day i only have ab 1 hr that im feeling good and the rest of the day its pretty bipolar. Is there any tips or things i should be aware of getting off this medication or maybe something that can help?

Someone please tell me the Lord forgives me for taking Suboxone? I'm sure He does right? If i die today will God see me as an addict putting drugs before Him or see me as a man who loves Him and tried his best to live by His commandments? Yes i want to be free from them one day but what if i never am?

Buprenorphine is absolutely not inhibiting the spiritual connection. Do not be misinformed. Anyone suffering right now reading this, there is hope. Just keep fighting 🙏🔥❤️

I was on suboxone for chronic pain and wasn’t an addict. It nearly killed me shutting down my kidneys and system. Dr refused to take me off so I went off it myself. Might work for some and def not for others🙏

Until you stop taking it then ur screwed

Suboxone is just another ball and Chain the longest most miserable way to quit drugs

I'm on Suboxone and in my experience if you search for God you will find him and if you want to communion daily with God you have full access but don't think for a second that it doesn't change the way that you think it because it does it's much better than other drugs but it's still an opiate and Dulls down the soul, I'm aware of it every time I take my dose. When we are truly ready to be one with our true selves, we will need nothing outside of food and water to live a life of Joy.

My wife tapered down once. When she jumped off A doctor wrote her a small cocktail and she was off work for the summer. (Teacher). She claims she had no withdraw. Doctor gave her clonidine and gabbapentin. However she relapsed within a year. Is back on started on a higher dose and has tapered back down.

Yeah I thought it was all just good besides some gnarly constipation.. now all my teeth are rotting after 8 years of use. Looks like dentures might be in my future! And a effing lawsuit against the pharmaceutical company.

I take two m per day and go to the gym every day and work every day and am pretty happy but i do wonder if life would be better? And i worry about running out if the country went to war or something and worry about traveling and running out cause i would be some kind of sick.

Does suboxone kill your drive to do anything?

I had to go to inpatient to get off and it was ruff

It’s way too strong in my opinion…there is no reason to make it that strong cuz honestly it’s the worse opioid to come off! I feel there is something flawed about this compound! I’ve been on 1.5 mg for a year and it’s impossible to come down having to go to work and take care of kids I feel I will be on that shit forever! And how to we know how much is really absorbed under the tongue?! The withdrawls are nothing compared to oxy’s! Way worse! Why is it the worse to come off when it’s suppose to be the best opioid to take for dépendance makes no f**** sense! I feel like shit most of the time I often get sick in the morning too! It should not stay and stick that long on the receptors!! They need to change the recipe!!

They guys not wrong at all

Have you ever had suboxone WD? what if an emergecy happens and you cant get your script for next month? You will be totally useless, in great pain of WD, and thre is nothing you can do to fix it. You completely rely on that medication - liquid handcuffs.

I’m getting off of this poison as quickly as possible

Life gets better with suboxone however it can be better without it. Once you stabilize on Suboxone for about a year and have healed some of the trauma of your active addiction I think life would be better without the Suboxone because the Suboxone blocks the effects of meditation . It also dulls spirituality. Thats for me.

It has a fuck ton of side effects too really bad for your teeth as well

I was on it if i wasnt using and im using again sadly but im trying rhe bermeas method,but it never made me have any side effects, although i would be using marijuana and i always will because my ADHD so its better then me snorting addys and being on porn hub for hours,and as far as happiness i am mamic so i take my meds get out the house and talk to people make life long friendships if it makes u anything tell your doctor there are always supplements , start with vitamins, slow down yiur red meat in take , find a woman, then wife,house , dog, couple pistols,then a kid and let the good times roll ,we all got people that didn't wake up so they cant tell their story

Solo JESUCRISTO puede hacer libre al hombre

Exactly....your brain is still being saturated with an opioid, albeit a partial agonist. U may not feel any effect, i dont either when i take my 8mg(or half) dose. Your not supposed to feel anything.....that would be getting high. But there is still an effect on the brain and body, especially over time. I've been on almost 4yrs and its def time to start thinking about coming off. It really is for the best. But hey, to each their own, only you know what is best for you. But these meds were not meant to be a lifelong thing. Thats addiction.

feel sorry for this man. he's happy to be a weak person.

Suboxone is my hero 😘

it does… it gives u brain fog constipation and ruins your sleep quality

Yes, I don't want to need anything else to live

So he just glided over the question, without actually addressing what he was asked! Hmmm

After 3 yrs of suboxone I started to notice long term sides and after 7yrs lol...but it did help a lot in many ways.

Of course it would be better but we can't stop taking the both drugs because so hard

Been on it 4 years. 1.5 strips a day. Now trying to come off it. Down to a 1/5th of a strip! Hoping it doesn’t take to much longer before my final dose and it’s out of my system

I don't feel suboxone is clogging my presence of God that's messed up to even say😮

Suboxone saved me from myself for a while. I’m trying to taper. Any advice is welcome 🙏 God bless

Subs have made me into a total anti social weirdo lol when I cut back once in a while I have awakenings- this guys probably just scared to be uncomfortable. I’m ready for it so I can feel the presence of God again and be able to actually be around people

I feel that cloaking that he’s speaking of.

The guy may not be doing dope but it doesn’t make your life better all on its own the person has to do that part themselves

You can't imagine your life being better than being a Slave to this drug? This is basic addict behavior

I’m 100 percent out of pocket with Suboxone and it still allows me to have a home, food and occasionally buy something nice for myself.

Did he just say you can’t be religious and on suboxone 😅 bro what

Doesn’t effect your life bullshit lmao I was on subs for 5 years got up to 80 mg a day prescribed 24 and I tried so hard to tell doctors I didn’t want to be on it long term overall it’s my fault but i’m 7 months clean have no urges to use pain killers or subs and e withdrawal from subs was the worst 12 day withdrawal I have ever been through but it was worth it in the ends.

How the heck do you go that low. Do you have strips or tablets that low or do you just cut it

I’m sitting in the ER and was just given my first dose. What a freaking mess!!!

He summed it up perfectly!

So that’s awesome and good for him! I CAN imagine a better life, and not having to take a medication everyday would be part of it. Not to mention having my full range of emotions back where I can fully feel them, belly laughs like I rarely get ( used to regularly before sub) saving the money every month on script and doc visits, tooth/gun recession, I could go on with cons of subs but hey, I’m alive! I also haven’t done heroin in almost 10 years. Def want to get off subs tho, it’s a goal for me personally. Oh one of the worst which vaping doesn’t help but the chronic dehydration subs causes me and only seems to get worse with time.

Soboxone diet Heroine

Subutex is a life saver. I wouldn't say its better on or off. It's a medical matter and a pshyco, social bio situation

Good luck when you can’t get your script for any reason.

I hate being on subs I am down to 4-6mgs now and about to get off soon!

Oooouuu, that’s the best example of justification I think I’ve ever heard. Yea bro- it affects your life. Long term suboxone use sucks and it should be illegal.

im about to get suboxone today (first time) i used to take percs 30 Extended Release 😍🤤… then i couldn’t get percs anymore so then i went straight to kratom (OPMS) and now that shit took over my daily life, i lost the love of my life bcuz of my drug addiction.. well actually drugs are the love of my life, my ex was just my secondary.. but none the less ive been going to treatment to get help bcuz i want MY life back. i threw it away over this euphoria.. so ill come back n give u guys a update on the Subs.. i hope anyone going thru drug addiction get thru this shit.

Been on it for a year and a half and I workout everyday I do breathing exercises and meditate gratitude journaling it's definitely helped me. Do I think I'll be on it for ever no I definitely plan on getting off it but definitely don't feel like it saturates my brain im extremely mindful practice presence everyday

Just because one persons eyes do not work doesn’t mean the rest of the world is blind….