I would have had Zemo in there to warn them against going with Val. He could also go against Ross taking the radiation to become Red Hulk. Basically he's there to help them by not physically helping them. I just think he's such an essential part of Thunderbolts in the comics, and while he doesn't need to be in the action of this movie, he does need to be in it somewhere, ideologically fighting against super soldiers and test subjects. Speaking of Red Hulk, there needs to be something with him and Sentry if Ross is Sentry's creator. That should be a very hard hitting and violent part of the story. I think they need to do Red Hulk because, 1. Harrison is pretty old, and I don't want to go through a bunch of other old men until we finally see Red Hulk. 2. It'd fit in with a story about the super soldiers and themes of monsters being made out of tests. 3. We don't have an actually physically imposing Hulk at the moment since they went the Smart Hulk route with Banner. So it'd be nice to see some Hulk smashing, especially with some actual menace. Overall, I like that you took a smaller scale approach. My main issue with the team they announced is how they don't really vary in power. Ghost is the only one with an actual power other than enhanced strength and combat. What about Radioactive Man? Atlas? Screaming Mimi? There's a lot of obscure but unique Marvel characters that could add color into this line up. Cool video, I hope you do more of these pitches.

Oh boy I can’t wait for Chris Pratt to join the thunderbolts!

There’s too many super soldiers on the team… literally everyone on the team does the same thing. Now I can see bucky joining at first until he realizes that he doesn’t want to be part of a team that kills because he’ll realize that he’s going back to his winter soldier self.

I don’t really understand your version of John, he is nothing like you describe. He isn’t a government loyalist, he only tries to do what he think is right, and he isn’t a cold blooded killer because the only person he killed, had 5 minutes ago helped kill his best friend infront of him and he had a serum that inhances emotions, finally even if you disagree with me on his characterization during the show at the end he works to save lives over getting vengeance. Also with the lineup you have, I don’t think Sentry works for the villain, that’s like having a suicide squad movie with Peacemaker, Killer Croc, Kingshark, and Polkadot Man fight General Zod

I think it's good that Taskmaster and Ghost are on the team but I think Baron Zemo should replace Winter Soldier.

They should have just introduce new heroes and by the end reveal that they are existing villains who escaped the Raft

In my theory what's going to happen in this film would be government corruption starting after Secret Invasion as plot device throughout the film and with Void still being the main villain.Val wants to use Sentry as weapon to illegally invade countries like Wakanda or possibly newly Asgard in similar way to what Norman Osborn did in comics during Siege. The team is created more special operatives where they are set to contain Sentry but along the way they are met by their worst fears, The Void. The team gets get killed except few candidates that still remain and Val's army come in. At the Raft Zemo hears what's really going down with Val and her sinister Cabal are planning to pull strings and create hit list. Baron Zemo decides to bring in the "REAL" Thunderbolts whilst Val decides to create her own version of the "Dark Avengers" with U.S.Agent as their leader.

Wouldve maybe had Zemo and Red Hulk in here, but perhaps that would be a bit much, this pitch sounds pretty cool tho

I like the callback to using the syringe like Red Guardian did to Natasha and Yelena.

Need more this. Its great! Would love to see a take on re-doing the MCU movies already out there

I like this pitch quite well. If Val had more of an arc, it would be stronger. I'm going to suggest a subplot with Everett Ross or Sharon Carter (possibly Nick Fury) where it's clear Val is jockeying for position to be the alpha spy. Recruiting people with powers and using these people to conduct missions is part of increasing her cred and setting the stage to taking out her rivals.

Damn this would be a pretty cool movie. Guardians Vol. 3 got me interested in the MCU again but not enough to sit through Ant Man 3 or She Hulk lol

Phase 4 if marvel were smart 1. Wandavision 2021 I would make several changes to this show, for one making Wanda an actual villain and no dumb dialogue defending her. Mephisto will be the one manipulating Wanda in her actions. The show ends in a similar way where Wanda goes completely insane. 2. Black widow. A lot of changes would be made to this movie as well, more specifically taskmaster will be a hire by drakov and be more faithful to his comic counterpart 3. Fantastic four 2021 We would get an origin for the fantastic four in this movie, however instead of

At first, I didn't like the pitch. But it's grown on me, and now I love the pitch! I like The Sentry as the villain, rather then The Leader, although, Leader would be very cool to see, but I'm sure, Brave New World will do him justice. Great pitch!

This sounds like the most badass Marvel movie that will probably never get made

I could see the opening vividly. Fire 🔥

This sounds awesome

Marvel better be taking notes

Brilliant!

First I would make the title Dark Avengers to the Marvel Studios version. Just a correction, Thunderbolts weren't made to be a suicide squad.

Bro your movie is actually pretty good but i think Thunderbolt Ross should have a more important role here considering how this movie is set right after Captain America 4

I do have some problems here; The fight between US Agent and Red Guardian and the mission itself are too much like The Suicide Squad. 2. Walker’s characterization and role in the story kinda undermines the ending of his arc in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. 3. It feels unnecessary to me to have Yelena and her dad be on bad terms. Just my opinion. 4. There’s no way this lineup would beat Sentry, plus it’s too boring, just super soldiers and a few spies. I prefer how Nando V Movies handled the lineup for his Thunderbolts pitch. I would want the Thunderbolts lineup to keep US Agent, Ghost, and Yelena. But add Zemo, Justin Hammer(since he could help finance the team and I need more Justin😁), and Vulture(or Beetle since I consider the MCU Spider-Man comics canon). Introduce Fixer, Screaming Mimi, and Radioactive Man(or replace him with Abomination). Either add Luke Cage or Wonder Man to the team. And finally, introduce the real Task Master Tony Masters into the MCU.

This is a great pitch! I would add Zemo to the roster to just get one more character, and it’s a bit trite but if he isn’t set up in cap 4, I’d have the post credit scene show red hulk

I don’t want to sound like a nerd. But Several media outlets have claimed that the team was originally formed by General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, hence the same name, but the name is actually a complete coincidence; Ross had been around for decades before the Thunderbolts and was not connected to their inception in any way (He did eventually join the team as Red Hulk a couple more decades later). This misconception also plays into another one, that the team started life as a team of government-sanctioned villains like the Suicide Squad, which may have come true later, but to start with, does not accurately describe Zemo’s team of hidden villains posing as heroes at all.

I Loved this pitch and how darker it is. And I agree a Rated R thunderbolts film is a great idea. Hopefully with Deadpool 3 and once they see the success of that movie they do more r rated content and not hold back. W pitch.

I don't think this is the best project to introduce Sentry, but The Leader would be fun as the villain, plus some other villains as henchman (Absorbing Man, Titania, Wrecking Crew, maybe someone like that- only Hulk villains are suggested there, but still).

I like this. I would also tweek whatever roster they have. For me the roster would be Falcon. War Machine. Bucky. Yelena. Ghost. US Agent. This would be a new Avengers squad but under Thunderbolt Ross and Val similar to how Avengers came under Shield

My pick of MCU thunderbolts: Zemo, Yelena, US Agent, Red Guardian, and Abomination

Yelena and Us Agent definitely need to be on the team alongside abomination

At first when you said you were gonna take Bucky off the list I was like, “No, my boy, you can't do that to him” but I 100% agree. I don't see why he would willingly go back to being the Winter Soldier. I could definitely see him teaming up with Sam tho

I think Thundebolts Movie cast will be 1.Justin Hammer as Iron Patriot or Titanium man 2.John Walker as US agent Abomination 3.Ares is counterpart to thor 4.Yelena as Crimson widow 5.Bullseye as Hawkeye 6.Yon-Rogg as Captain Marvel 7.Mac gargan can be Spider-Man as he got the black suit first and corrupting it befor it gets to Peter Parker Valentina being Nick fury of the group along with Ross Villain could be Sentry for the first half but we will know that the void has controlling him from the beginning. Abomination could die so red Hulk or skarr can be next Hulk Some other members could be ghost white wolf (Bucky barnes) sabertooth(Wolverine) moon stone (Ms marvel) How do you like my idea pls reply....

Thunderbolts are a team originated by General Thunderbolts Ross. Yes, he lead an incarnation of the Thunderbolts, but he was never one of the original members of the band.

I just had an awesome theory, What If the twist in The Thunderbolts is Val and Ross were the ones running The Department of Damage Control?

and ngl buck my being on the team makes sense

This was a pretty good video you just getting better and better also the John walker meat rider joke was hilarious to lol. Do got some nick picks like yelena belova and her father arc just seem repetitive because they already did that in black widow also why are they fighting sentry he seems a bit too powerful for the the super soldiers the spy and the girl who can walk through walls lol I thought they would go on some type of Government mission. Also no Zeno yeah I am definitely unsubscribing lol but in serious this video was still good and I liked how it was rated R

and you forget sentry songbird and thunderbolt ross in the movie

Wheres the post credits scene

The red guardian v us agent beef and final fight kinda gives me too much of a Suicide Squad vibe between Peacemaker and Flag but other than that there's definitely some bits here that I would be interested in seeing!

I don't like that you killed Red guardian

I think you troyoboyo and nando movies should write avengers 5 and secret wars

or silver sufer one 🙏🙏

Red Guardian: US agent... what a joke

Not even two minutes in and I agree that the MCU version of Taskmaster just isn't that interesting. She lacks much agency and her motivation is pretty... meh. And, I agree, it seems forced to have Bucky Barnes blackslide to being a thug taking orders. Among other problems, it seems like Wakanda would come after him and capture him.

I’m a little confused at your claims that John isn’t comfortable taking orders from women, when he’s literally working FOR Val, who is a woman? I presume you think that way because of the Dora Milaje fight but that had nothing to do with them being women and just them not having jurisdiction. A lot of this John part of the story just doesn’t fit the character that exists in the canon and effectively retcons his arc from Falcon and Winter Soldier. And killing him off when the character has so much more potential to have a complex and interesting storyline is just premature. This just makes him into some one note villain to be written out and killed off when he’s never been that. It’s a waste of the character and an actor the caliber of Wyatt Russell. Like I don’t understand this sentiment of looking at John like a bad guy but Yelena is the more heroic one when she’s the one who literally and casually kills numerous people just so she and Nat could break Alexei out of jail. Your pitch really feels like we are rehashing the Suicide Squad. But even in that story universe, James Gunn gave more humanity to Peacemaker in later stories than you seem to think of John. You talk a lot about some of these characters being victims but also fail to realize that John himself is a victim of the government and the military industrial complex as well? Maybe we don’t need the Thunderbolts to rehash the Suicide Squad, maybe a team filled with traumatized soldier/spy types isn’t a coincidence and they could find a team/family with each other so they can grow and be better. Maybe Bucky of all people would know how to lead a group of broken people to find healing. Maybe instead of following The Suicide Squad, they follow the Guardians route of a found family instead. Instead of a story filled with just violence, we can have one where the broken messed up misfits can heal each other and save the world. Maybe each character can grow and learn something significant for their character. Also, there’s very easy ways to fix Taskmaster, just let her have a personality. It would be all too easy to just show her now having had time finding herself be a different person than the brainwashed one we met in Black Widow. I mean if they could fix Deadpool by just having him be the personality he should have, then I see no reason Taskmaster can’t be fixed, especially when the fix would be very easy and Marvel left that route very open.

Killmonger would be perfect

Alright,so this is character assassination of John Walker.Most of the ideas That you presented are pretty bad with the exception of the John walker vs Alexei fights.You complain that there are to many Super soldiers and proceeds to only eliminate Bucky out of the pitch. Here are some good ideas that should be used for the movie: 1)The Old Roster:Of the characters presented, eliminate Red Guardian and Ghost.Val is the one in charge of the Thunderbolts program,so she stays.She also already recruited both John and Yelena.Bucky didn't do much in Falcon and the winter soldier,so he can be in this movie.He was also an American soldier before being an brainwashed assassin.Taskmaster can be in the movie,but as an antagonist; 2)the nw roster:With the changes to the old rooster there need to be new ones to replace them.Those in my opinion are:a)Tiger Shark,who in the movie can be a halfbreed betewn an Talokan soldier and a human,He looks mostly human,but has gills on his neck and sharp theeth that can grow back in days after being broken.He's the youngest member of the team and a big fan of Walker.His name is Carlos Diaz. b)Appala,also know as Anne Sol(I just made up the name,in the comics she doesn't have one) is a french woman with solar powers,able to shoot sun blasts and create and control heat .her mother is a friend of Val,and told her about Anne.Val yold Anne about the Thunderbolts program and she accepted. C) character dinamics:John and Yelena butt heads,but is more friendly banter than antagoniseing eachother.John is awkward towars Carlos, because he reminds him to much of Battlestar,Anne is not a fan of Yelena, because Yelena's the black widow who killed her father.Yelena feels guilt, because while she was brainwashed,she still remembers every second of it.Bucky feels sympathy for Yelena, while he's worried for Walker, because even if he seems put together,he's still broken and violent. D)the villains are an organization called Maggia.Who is not a secret terorist organization(like AIM or the new Red Room)but is secretly powerfull, because they created a supersoldier as powerfull as Thor(That would be Sentry by the way) under the alias of project SENTRY. Known agents of the Maggia: Jason Dean( a gunslinger using modified Chitauri guns), Simon Marshall(the leader of the drug division)and Giulietta Nefaria(mistress of disguise and assassin).Another person they'll encounter is Taskmaster who's in it for the money and housing that Maggia offers her. E) the mission:Val gives the team the mission of breaking in a Maggia base in Finland and finding out more about project SENTRY And those are my ideas for now.

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Well when it comes to Bucky i guess he can be the compass that noone listens too LOL. Or the govt could use his past again agaisnt him. So yea.

do a x men pls

Nando v movies rip off

There’s too many super soldiers on the team… literally everyone on the team does the same thing. Now I can see bucky joining at first until he realizes that he doesn’t want to be part of a team that kills because he’ll realize that he’s going back to his winter soldier self.