If The 1984 F1 Monaco Grand Prix Had Modern Graphics

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TommyRacing

TommyRacing

Ай бұрын

Race highlights of the Formula 1 1984 Monaco Grand Prix, made with modern graphics and brilliant commentary from the legend Murray Walker and 1976 World Champion James Hunt.
The race, held amidst heavy rain, was one of the most contentious in Formula One history, and announced the emergence of at least two new stars. Alain Prost took the first of his four victories at the circuit.
The 1984 Monaco Grand Prix was a Formula One motor race held at Monaco on 3 June 1984. It was race 6 of 16 in the 1984 FIA Formula One World Championship. It was the only race of the 1984 championship that was run in wet weather.
Alain Prost won the rain-curtailed race from pole position. He had battled with then-rookie Ayrton Senna for the lead, which Senna eventually gained on the thirty-second lap, but a red flag was thrown out and counted back to a lap back, making Prost the winner. Regardless, Senna achieved his first podium in Formula One and received praise for his efforts, while René Arnoux came behind in third.
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@luizfelipe_27
@luizfelipe_27 Ай бұрын
The day the world met Ayrton Senna and Stefan Bellof ❤
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
Just a reminder: Stefan Bellof's Tyrrell car was disqualified from the entire championship, due to being illegal - below minimum weight. Bellof probably was a good driver, but we will never know because his Monaco performance was much overshadowed by the car being illegal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_Racing#1984_controversy
@hanswurst6712
@hanswurst6712 Ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan Lets be real, even with it beeing illegal it was not a top car. So the fact that the car was illegal doesnt take anything away from Bellofs fantastic drive. Also that Tyrell-Ban was/is kind of controversial and was probably more political then actually performance based.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
@@hanswurst6712 I am being real, it does take. The ligier was better than the Toleman car.
@RBot21
@RBot21 Ай бұрын
​@@jensonbuttonfan in 1985 Portuguese GP, same conditions (rain) Bellof from P21 to P6 🤙
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
​@@hanswurst6712Monaco 1984 reminded me a lot to 1996 due to being constantly raining. 2022 too.
@RoyMatzem
@RoyMatzem Ай бұрын
Almost winning Monaco in his rookie season in a small team, Legend
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
if race not stopped senna dnf because of suspension. bellof win this race on slowest car on the grid.
@cowardlylion9947
@cowardlylion9947 Ай бұрын
@@carsismyaddiction6919 ''slowest car on the grid'' You are talking about the car which had finished in the points (top six) in three of the five races prior to Monaco 1984. What can be clearly said is Bellof's car was easier to drive at Monaco in those conditions than the turbo cars. How can you say Bellof would win? He could have crashed or broken down.
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
@@cowardlylion9947 senna car has hart 415t engine, slowest f1 turbo engine best to drive in the rain.
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
@@cowardlylion9947 bellof win. he faster than senna.
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
@@cowardlylion9947 it's slowest car on the grid. used engine from 1966 in 1984.
@T3nEighty
@T3nEighty Ай бұрын
The first thing that struck me watching this was actually the turn 1 crash. Seeing Tambay limping and carried to a stetcher after what at my initial reaction was a 'nothing' accident Realising today there are many crashes far worse than that where i expect the driver to just jump out and walk off This just really made me realise how when such a small accident caused that type of injury that realisation was truly there at all times that those inevitable big crashes would be horrendous
@getwhatdeserve5039
@getwhatdeserve5039 Ай бұрын
Shame Bellof died the year after, a real future champion if he had the chance
@bumblebity2902
@bumblebity2902 Ай бұрын
He was Schumacher before it was cool but no cheat at all.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
​@@bumblebity2902true. Had Bellof not dead from 1985 Spa 1000KM race, we could've seen Bellof vs M. Schumacher vs Senna vs Berger in 1994 Season.
@ubiratanmenezes1979
@ubiratanmenezes1979 Ай бұрын
Tottaly agree
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Ай бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 Berger?
@Ump98
@Ump98 Ай бұрын
Maybe a great battles with Senna. Both were monsters in rain condition.
@alexadventures3428
@alexadventures3428 Ай бұрын
It's beautiful! Modern graphics in vintage race!
@pardonless
@pardonless Ай бұрын
RIP, Stefan Bellof 😢
@Hans5958
@Hans5958 Ай бұрын
4:36 no way, aws on 1984 💀
@andrewcocos
@andrewcocos Ай бұрын
should have been IBM?
@jlvaviation9140
@jlvaviation9140 Ай бұрын
@@andrewcocosor Olivetti
@HalianTheProtogen
@HalianTheProtogen Ай бұрын
@@andrewcocosor DEC
@joaom2057
@joaom2057 Ай бұрын
Everybody seem to forget that was not only Senna and Bellof who made the show. Mansell did aswell. That overtaking on Prost in the tunnel was something
@robertolapalma6297
@robertolapalma6297 Ай бұрын
I used to talk about Senna and the marvellous racing he did (i am argentinian), today I´ve realized there was someone else who gained 16 positions from start Stefan Bellof
@ubiratanmenezes1979
@ubiratanmenezes1979 Ай бұрын
I am brazilian and i agree with you. Belof was also an amazing driver. It's sad he passed away in 1985 while competing in SPA 1000km. It would be great seeing him competing side to side with Senna, Prost, Mansell, and Piquet.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
Bellof was driving an underweight illegal car. His performance was not real. He was DQ later
@miraimin1
@miraimin1 Ай бұрын
​@@jensonbuttonfan even if it was an underweight car it was still a shitbox underweight or not, still an impressive drive from an impressive driver
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
@@miraimin1 lt was not a shitbox. It was a traditional team (Tyrrell) with a car that was ILLEGAL, and being underweight it gave him a huge advantage against his competitors. No, it was not an impressive drive. It was pure simple cheating.
@Piddel
@Piddel Ай бұрын
Crazy to think that Prost lost the Championship by *winning* this race.
@Christian-no8qq
@Christian-no8qq Ай бұрын
Please explain
@mark_chesterfield
@mark_chesterfield Ай бұрын
@@Christian-no8qq The problem is that by winning the race, which was stopped by a red flag, Prost received half the points allotted for victory (4.5 points instead of 9). If the race had not been stopped by a red flag, Prost probably would have passed Senna to first place and would have finished second, but would have received a full 6 points for second place. In that case, based on the results of the entire season, Prost would have 1 point more than Lauda, ​​and Prost would become the champion.
@jotasiq
@jotasiq Ай бұрын
This is "almost" true. Prost and McLaren clearly acted politically to end this race. Senna would overtake him and win that race.
@bucsredsoxredwings
@bucsredsoxredwings Ай бұрын
Butterfly effect. If they finish the race, the world championship changes as well.
@jotasiq
@jotasiq Ай бұрын
@@bucsredsoxredwings that's It!
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 Ай бұрын
Goatifi was already on the Williams at that time 🐐
@DSBMAC13
@DSBMAC13 Ай бұрын
Member when there were overtakes in Monaco? Oh, I member!
@minibus9
@minibus9 Ай бұрын
awesome video
@fransergiodelgado
@fransergiodelgado Ай бұрын
Senna in a Toleman overtaking the great Lauda and chasing Prost in their McLarens… “Stop this race before that rookie wins!!!”
@guilhermecabral4578
@guilhermecabral4578 Ай бұрын
Yes, that was exactly what happened.The rookie was more than 3 seconds faster than prost,so,the other french Balestre,demanded prost's beg.
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
Bellof was faster than Senna and Prost at that point, so many believe that if the race went on, Bellof would pass Prost AND Senna.
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
btw it was Jackie Ickx (race director) who made the decision to finish the race. Icks is Belgian.
@alexanderjefferies7740
@alexanderjefferies7740 Ай бұрын
Of the 57 starts in their five seasons in Formula One, Toleman achieved 3 podium finishes. They were all achieved by Senna in his rookie year. One of very few drivers who could make uncompetitive machinery competitive. Very beautiful graphics.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
These 1984 season races in terms of graphics looked like it rendered in 4K.
@ubiratanmenezes1979
@ubiratanmenezes1979 Ай бұрын
I agree, but don't minimize the work made by the team. Toleman was arising in that time. Moreover, in 1985 Toleman was selled and renamed to Benneton, the same Benneton that gave the 2 first Schumacher's world titles. Toleman's chief designer was Rory Byrne, which designed not only TG184, but the cars driven by Schumi in ALL his world titles. Senna's talent certainly did all the difference in 1984, but the car wasn't that bad.
@alexanderjefferies7740
@alexanderjefferies7740 Ай бұрын
@@ubiratanmenezes1979 very good point, totally agree
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
that is true, however let's not forget that the TG184 was a pretty decent car, and was a solid leader of the midfield. of course Senna's outstanding talent pushed it to the front occasionally, but it is not to fair at all to call it a bad car
@nundata
@nundata Ай бұрын
​@@gmantov decent car? why the other drivers didnt have similar results to senna. it was shit car that is made to look decent because of senna driving it.
@guillepalma89
@guillepalma89 Ай бұрын
These times were bright and impressive in Formula 1. Seeing these images gives a feeling of joy 😃😊❤️
@earlybirdearlybird1371
@earlybirdearlybird1371 Ай бұрын
That´s very nice
@DehAlmeida
@DehAlmeida Ай бұрын
Your work is stunning. Love these videos. #sennaforever
@tommyracing2011
@tommyracing2011 Ай бұрын
Thank you😉
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
​@@tommyracing20112024, Ayrton Senna still the GOAT. Along with Nijigasaki High School Idol Club and Michael Schumacher.
@John_W196
@John_W196 Ай бұрын
Amazing video Tommy!
@simonprudenciotorrez3090
@simonprudenciotorrez3090 Ай бұрын
Pra mim ,a maior corrida de f1 de todos os tempos Pista de rua Chovendo A corrida que nao teve fim Mas teve um vencedor moral Chegando em 2o lugar,numa equipe media/mostrando seu talento . O rei de Mônaco, até os dias de hoje,ganhando 6 vezes
@guilhermecabral4578
@guilhermecabral4578 Ай бұрын
Chegou em primeiro,vencedor de fato,o vencedor amoral e oficial foi o frances narigudo,vitória dada por seu compatriota balestre,incluside antes de morrer em entrevista disse ter ajudado muito o prost,essa foi uma das vezes.
@N1Gaming
@N1Gaming Ай бұрын
Small suggestion, Mclaren and Williams logos are too modern, for example McLaren wouldn't have orange as their primary colour at the time due to Marlboro branding, I think if this was adjusted to the specific era it would be perfect. Great work on the graphics regardless!
@HalianTheProtogen
@HalianTheProtogen Ай бұрын
When F1 cars still fit around Monaco.
@JoshyP574
@JoshyP574 Ай бұрын
The discovery of a two great drivers, who were taken away too quickly 🙏. I am way too young so I didn’t even know Belloc before this.
@wanr5701
@wanr5701 Ай бұрын
Stefan Bellof. Lapping the track faster than anyone else. Too bad he gone too soon. Otherwise late 80s and early 90s F1 will have a very strong field of drivers, almost parallel to GP500 at that time. Interestingly enough he becomes the favourite driver, idol, and role model of a certain seven time world champion when the latter was growing up.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
lapping with an illegal underweight car, disqualified later.
@wanr5701
@wanr5701 Ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan disqualified later in the season, not after the race. Even then the disqualification is questionable at best. Still didn't take away the fact that Bellof is a great driver; his Nurburgring lap record in Porsche Le Mans car stands for many years. To say he is a lousy driver just because his car is illegal is just pure crime.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
@@wanr5701 doesnt matter when, he was disqualified, the car was illegal, end period. It does take away since the car was illegal. Try to sell your Bellof agenda to someone else. Here with me it won't fly.
@wanr5701
@wanr5701 Ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan you are entitled to your opinion but not entitled to tell everyone about it. Nor forcing it upon others. Thank you for your great insight.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
@@wanr5701 its not forcing if I am telling the real facts no the bullshit youre selling here. The car was illegal. FIA is the undisputed regulator of the Formula One Championship. You cannot question their decision and their investigation. Tyrrell car was illegal, was caught cheating, therefore the disqualification was valid and correct. Since the car was illegal, Bellof's performance was not real. It's simple facts, it's simple pure logic. I am sorry if you missed your school class about history and logic.
@hir3508
@hir3508 Ай бұрын
素晴らしいです!👍
@zardinho
@zardinho Ай бұрын
hats off to belof. one of the "what if's" of the F1.
@_wiillysvj
@_wiillysvj Ай бұрын
3:43 Lauda - Williams, just that little detail but AMAZING vide, hope we can see more like this in the future. Shoutout from Chile
@Lucasss11623
@Lucasss11623 Ай бұрын
bellof and senna carried the race
@maxverstappen11
@maxverstappen11 Ай бұрын
2:43 Perez in 2024
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
Had this race red flagged on lap 45 and not 32, Ayrton Senna could've easily won this race despite on a mediocre Toleman Car.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH Ай бұрын
Always fun to see meh cars pull off unlikely victories. I think Alonso had some wins like that under his belt from his time at Renault.
@troggamer261
@troggamer261 Ай бұрын
Ahhhh the good old days
@juanindojorgijanad782
@juanindojorgijanad782 Ай бұрын
I didn't believe Ayrton Senna on his Toleman finished on the podium in 2nd place behind Alain Prost's McLaren at the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix!
@jakemarcus9999
@jakemarcus9999 Ай бұрын
I love how the commentators don't talk literally all the time unlike nowadays when they don't shut their mouths even for a split second ever.
@jca3183
@jca3183 Ай бұрын
amazing job!! the golden age of F1. I miss those drivers
@mikewest7839
@mikewest7839 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see this done for the last 5 laps on Monaco 1982 :).
@MarkPentler
@MarkPentler Ай бұрын
Commentary down a 4wire or phone line, as is the 70s and 80s way. Unmistakable
@robossuperchannel9434
@robossuperchannel9434 Ай бұрын
The only graphic we would see today would be "start delayed" in those conditions.
@MrJoshuas5678
@MrJoshuas5678 Ай бұрын
I think senna should have had that win 🏆
@mateo1726
@mateo1726 Ай бұрын
They need to bring back small cars for Monaco only
@JoseManuelLegardaGalarza
@JoseManuelLegardaGalarza Ай бұрын
a win that cost a championship
@Kevin3952
@Kevin3952 Ай бұрын
Tommy how do you make the starting grid graphics also all these new graphics?
@pirque
@pirque Ай бұрын
Laffite, the father of Latifi was in williams in 1984, same as his son :D
@yoellful
@yoellful Ай бұрын
Damn boii
@robertoc.dominguez6856
@robertoc.dominguez6856 Ай бұрын
Los renault pegándose en mónaco. Novedad!
@IvanCICS-zd9gs
@IvanCICS-zd9gs Ай бұрын
El dia q Prost perdio el campeonato de 1984
@Pabig93
@Pabig93 Ай бұрын
The graphics for McLaren need to be Red, not Papaya and you use the wrong logo for Williams, Williams did not have their current logo in the 1980s! Those are inaccuracies that should be solved better.
@stephenleach9283
@stephenleach9283 Ай бұрын
Lap 27 3 Lauda has Williams graphic
@cristian9365
@cristian9365 Ай бұрын
This is a masterpiece lol, great details!
@josevillarroel7630
@josevillarroel7630 Ай бұрын
Nice work. If Prost had overtaken Lauda in any other GP, he'd have won 1984, dont blame this race.
@LVP444
@LVP444 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@artursruseckis4242
@artursruseckis4242 Ай бұрын
By 2024 standards Senna got +20 seconds penalty for not obeying red flag procedure
@TechRobloxGaming185
@TechRobloxGaming185 Ай бұрын
can you do the oppsite now?
@alessiotorre6292
@alessiotorre6292 Ай бұрын
Mi permetto di sottolineare che nella telecronaca italiana la grafica e Poltronieri Ayrton lo chiamavano DaSilva
@webcucciolo
@webcucciolo Ай бұрын
People who say that the issue is the racetrack and not the car size and the regulations, and people who say that Hamilton is the goat and he would do great even with a crappy car, have probably never seen this
@Rad1k96
@Rad1k96 21 күн бұрын
4:10 why does lauda have a williams logo?
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi Ай бұрын
A wet race could save modern Monaco. Have sprinklers wetting the entire track for the duration of the race. Nothing else will.
@rocon86
@rocon86 Ай бұрын
Didn't the FIA rig this race result because Senna was closing the gap on Prost, and the FIA president being French, didn't want his French racer dropping points to an amateur.
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
actually no. The call was made by Jackie Ickx (Belgian) who was the race director and was concern about safety.
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
In my view if the race wasn't stopped, Beloff would overtake Prost AND Senna and win this.
@warrenwills3251
@warrenwills3251 Ай бұрын
They should have fired everyone responsible for those graphics
@mustang6172
@mustang6172 Ай бұрын
2:32 Is that guy showing the blue flag to the leader?
@paulonatanaeldossantossana3909
@paulonatanaeldossantossana3909 Ай бұрын
0:12
@Wall_T3mbok4556
@Wall_T3mbok4556 15 күн бұрын
Yo bro can you do the f2004 on slicks (soft) at LeMans again but without the 2000hp and just the quali hp? (950hp) I'll sub if you do it
@thatoneguy7191
@thatoneguy7191 Ай бұрын
Lauda quits McLaren and joins Williams after his DNF? 😂
@user-nc8gt9se8i
@user-nc8gt9se8i Ай бұрын
Mansel não ganhou mais campeonatos pq nao se segurava nas pistas, não tinha controle e por isso não está entre os melhores pilotos. Nessa corrida mostra quem é o melhor de todos os tempos. O melhor piloto é aquele que ganhava de todos com o carro igual e ganhava em pistas difíceis como essa de Mônaco! Quem foi melhor que Senna nessa pista? Ninguém!
@kevin1510vn
@kevin1510vn Ай бұрын
Sorry các bạn. Ca khúc đó nói lên tất cả. Nói đúng vs ng đó tưởng khu phố đấy là hợp🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
@kevin1510vn
@kevin1510vn Ай бұрын
Yes. 1 day i'll be fatty-millionaire somday. 🎉🎉
@bynamscott5564
@bynamscott5564 Ай бұрын
I dont think you know the difference between graphics and hud....xD
@jhd81
@jhd81 Ай бұрын
Ahora viene el descarado de Prost a decir q el auto de senna tenía mejor aerodinámica y más tec 😂
@MrRobertobahia
@MrRobertobahia Ай бұрын
Bellof era da Tyrrell e não Ligier.
@JeffSherlock
@JeffSherlock Ай бұрын
Simply: The cars would have been terribly ugly, like today's cars.
@jtc4119
@jtc4119 Ай бұрын
2004 Monaco next please?
@beckthomas6523
@beckthomas6523 Ай бұрын
Goofy regulations all the cars are so different
@RadityaPramanaPutra2001
@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Ай бұрын
The day when Toleman almost won..... #1984MonacoGrandPrix🇲🇨 #1984Nostalgia 31/05/2024 23:29 Or 11:29 PM At My Local Time.
@epdepd754
@epdepd754 Ай бұрын
Cuando los pilotos tenian cojones
@sinoplu_semih
@sinoplu_semih Ай бұрын
Hello from Turkey
@malquezare
@malquezare Ай бұрын
Aquele sujo do Jack Ickx tirou com a bandeira vermelha a vitória certa do Senna, mas a vingança veio ao final do campeonato com o Lauda se tornando campeão por apenas meio ponto em cima do Prost
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
Dificil saber o que aconteceria se a corrida continuasse. Senna já disse mais de uma vez que o carro vinha apresentando problemas na suspensão dianteira a cada volta e ele não tinha certeza se terminaria, por isso pisou fundo daquele jeito. Existe também um ponto que pouca gente nota: O Steffan Bellof, que vinha logo atrás em 3o, estava mais rãpido que os dois da frente, e é possível que passasse os dois se a prova continuasse. Aí o Prost teoricamente chegaria em 3o e perderia o campeonato do mesmo jeito. Ou seja, dificil dizer o que aconteceria já que não aconteceu.
@malquezare
@malquezare Ай бұрын
@@gmantov durante a maior parte da corrida o Ayrton e o Bellof mantiveram tempos semelhantes só nas últimas voltas qdo a chuva apertou que o Bellof fez tempos melhores que o Ayrton, mas é difícil dizer o que ocorreria daí p diante
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 Ай бұрын
Can we get this with modern footage too?
@i_am_the_night
@i_am_the_night Ай бұрын
You know what's the funniest thing of this robbery against the greatest Ayrton Senna?? Ballestre suspends the race so that Prost would not be humiliated by the rookie (who ate everyone else alive with his driving), thinking he was saving his predilected driver. BUT... Do you know that this one was the championship that Prost lost to Lauda by HALF A POINT?? that half point they gave him in Monaco (in that year, the points in race was 9-6-4-3-2-1) and if Ballestre didn't stick his nose where he wasn't called to protect his driver, Prost would add 6 points from second place at the end of the race, instead of 4.5 for having won a race with less than 75% completed. This "win" cost Prost's title.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
This was not Ballestres decision. It was Jacky Ickx decision, he was the race director for Monaco GP.
@i_am_the_night
@i_am_the_night Ай бұрын
@@jensonbuttonfan of course was Ballestre's decision! Prost was begging to stop the race, Ballestre called Ickx ordering to stop the race and the belgian put the red flag. In those years all the decision are coming from FIA, not from Race's director
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
It was Jacky Ickx's call to finish the race. Ballestre didn't have any say on it. And I think Bellof would pass them both if the race contiued.
@jensonbuttonfan
@jensonbuttonfan Ай бұрын
@@gmantov he would then be disqualified, since the car was illegal, which was proved and then Tyrrell got excluded from the 1984 season. Whatever Bellof was doing there, would mean literally nothing after the race and the DSQ.
@malquezare
@malquezare Ай бұрын
Aquele sujo do Jack Ickx tirou com a bandeira vermelha a vitória certa do Senna, mas a vingança veio ao final do campeonato com o Laura se tornando campeão por apenas meio ponto em cima do Prost
@TheColinChapman
@TheColinChapman Ай бұрын
nonsense. Senna would never have finished the full distance with his damaged front suspension, he admitted that himself.
@malquezare
@malquezare Ай бұрын
​@@TheColinChapmanSorry to disagree, Ayrton never admitted that he would never reach the end of the race. He said it was dangerous to drive with damaged suspension but not that it was impossible to drive and reach the end of the race. He hit the chicane on lap 10 and was going to pass Prost on lap 32 or 33. The race would end within two hours with Ayrton winning for sure. They did everything for a Frenchman to end up with the victory, it was like that with J.P. Beltoise in 1972 under the same conditions. It's always better to have a Frenchman win in Monaco than a Brazilian... which leads me to doubt the fairness of the marshals in this race
@TheColinChapman
@TheColinChapman Ай бұрын
@@malquezare definitely not. He did admit it, please read Heinz Prüller‘s book ‚Grand Prix Story 84‘, page 84.
@malquezare
@malquezare Ай бұрын
@@TheColinChapman Sorry again and with all due respect. But I believe you should hear Ayrton's post-race statement (unfortunately an interview in Portuguese) where he does not mention the possibility of not completing that race instead of reading third-party books.
@TheColinChapman
@TheColinChapman Ай бұрын
@@malquezare with the same logic, I would say that the personal statement of a driver regarding his own matter is biased. I personally go with the verdict of the Toleman mechanics. I know that you are trying to glorify your national hero here, but we won‘t agree on this. Either way, thanks for your interest in replying, I wish you well.
@donotevenbegintocare
@donotevenbegintocare Ай бұрын
Senna was under intense pressure and scrutiny this day as he was serving a suspended 3 race sentence (meaning if he infringed any rules he would get a 3 race suspension) for "bringing the sport into disrepute" the previous month. This is because a few weeks earlier a "Race of Champions" was organized at the Nurburgring with many past F1 champions plus several current F1 drivers all in identical Mercedes cars to celebrate the opening of the new Nurburgring GP track. Prost, Senna, Lauda, Reutemann, Moss, Rosberg, and many other champions. Prost qualified on pole, Senna 2nd. At the start Prost started to drive away, so Senna cut across the chicane to ram Prost out of the race on purpose. Naturally this was a big scandal because who the hell does that, especially at an exhibition race where the proceeds are going to charity. Senna would later admit to his good friend McLaren team boss Jo Ramirez that he did this on purpose because "Prost is the man to beat and I want to get in his head" Anyway, at Monaco team boss Ted Toleman said in the post-race interview that they were extremely lucky the race was stopped when it was because Senna had hit a wall and broken the suspension, the car wouldn't last another 2 laps. Initially the damage wasn't so bad, but Senna ignored team orders to not use the curbs at the Chicane du Port to not aggravate the problem. He kept using them, which made the problem much worse. So despite the pressure everything went perfectly for him this weekend, literally could not have gone better.
@javiergarrido6088
@javiergarrido6088 Ай бұрын
1:47 here Ayrton Senna passing on the kerb that cause a damage in the suspension, if the race continue on, Senna would have retire by suspensión failure.
@TheColinChapman
@TheColinChapman Ай бұрын
correct, the red flag did not ‚steal‘ him a victory, it saved him a second place. Ayrton Senna himself admitted that he could see his right front wheel moving forward and backward under braking.
@7michael6
@7michael6 Ай бұрын
Senna win this race
@gmantov
@gmantov Ай бұрын
Bellof, in my opinion. He was closing up faster than Senna and Prost.
@Cycle.every.day.
@Cycle.every.day. Ай бұрын
Fix
@Patrik.Pereira
@Patrik.Pereira Ай бұрын
He got robbed
@michelf.5219
@michelf.5219 Ай бұрын
C'est quoi l'intérêt ?
@johnny5805
@johnny5805 Ай бұрын
It looks EXACTLY the same except you've swapped the original graphics for unsuitable modern ones ! Rubbish.
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
Senna damaged his suspension by jumping on the curb. the engineer who disassembled and checked his car said that Senna would not have been able to finish the race if it had continued to the end. Senna thought that the victory was stolen from him, but in fact it was not so, he had no chance of winning at all, because behind him bellof was driving even faster in the slowest car of the championship. and no, Tyrrell's car was completely legal and didn't break any rules. the FIA disqualified the team because Ken Tyrrell, using the right of veto, did not allow to increase the fuel tank of the car (refueling is prohibited after 1983) a large fuel tank would deprive Tyrrell of the last advantage of an atmospheric engine, so the FIA delegates were constantly looking for something to disqualify him, and they succeeded, Tyrrell was disqualified for using ballast in the fuel tank. in fact, there was no point in this, and given the ban on refueling, there was no way Tyrrell could fool the FIA with the weight of the car. as a result, the following year, Tyrrell accepted an increase in the fuel tank and switched to Renault turbo engines himself.
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 Ай бұрын
The race only needed to last a couple more laps
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
@@davidaugustofc2574 and prost or bellof win.
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 Ай бұрын
@@carsismyaddiction6919 hard to believe
@carsismyaddiction6919
@carsismyaddiction6919 Ай бұрын
@@davidaugustofc2574 bellof faster than senna.
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 Ай бұрын
@@carsismyaddiction6919 he was still 14 behind Senna, while Senna was 7 behind Prost. With a Ferrari and a McLaren he'd have to overtake on track before going after Senna, now in clean air.
@marciocarvalho8975
@marciocarvalho8975 Ай бұрын
Would not work! At that time spectators were watching the track and Cars. Nowadays are looking to a screen whit numbers.. F1 today is a joke
@Dr._J
@Dr._J Ай бұрын
Man these graphics are ugly.
@roterstern1301
@roterstern1301 Ай бұрын
Modern graphics suck Because it blocks the view of the essential (the race).
@Thiago100Zwetsch
@Thiago100Zwetsch Ай бұрын
Calm down brazilians, Senna wouldn't win this either
@Lightriks
@Lightriks Ай бұрын
He would
@Lightriks
@Lightriks Ай бұрын
You are French right?
@Thiago100Zwetsch
@Thiago100Zwetsch Ай бұрын
@@Lightriks No. I am brazilian, but I know Senna's car had some issues he might as well DNF that race before it ended. I am no fanatic. That's the point.
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