At the risk of being over-simplistic, why do some keep trying to explain creation with "science" when creation was supernatural, not scientific. Science cannot explain a supernatural event. The God who created the laws of science is not bound by them. He operates outside of time, distance and matter. His ways are so much higher than our ways and His thoughts so much higher than our thoughts. We are so small.

With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

“Your word, LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens” (Psalm 119:89). “The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever” (Isaiah 40:8). “I the Lord do not change” (Malachi 3:6). “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35).

While many try to grapple with these types of issues, I rest in this: 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

God's Awesome power is unfathomably complex, and His creation is beyond total comprehension... Science is merely our meager attempt to scratch the surface of how infinitely detailed existence is... It's difficult for some to grasp that God Almighty can literally do ANYTHING, and I Worship Him, Not His creation but the Creator Himself ❤ Thank you God for this amazing gift!!!

Isaiah 45:12 KJV I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

“In the beginning, Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands” -Hebrews 1:10

God is going to make all things new in the twinkling of an eye.

Very good discussion. I have changed my mind several times in several ways when thinking about this topic, and I think it's okay for Christians to have open minds about it. There are beliefs that are subject to change, and there are beliefs that are NOT subject to change, like God as creator of everything, Jesus as his Son and our Savior, Genesis as accurate history.

We will never really understand until we are standing infront of the father and he tells us how it all works . For now we can have ideas and theories but that’s what it will always be. God bless you all !

We read in Jer 51:15 that the Lord stretched out the heaven by His understanding. I imagine that as time, space & matter were created, it also affected distance and all of this was being stretched out. The speed of light itself, being part of that creative work was stretched, so it seems conceivable that it all took place almost instantaneously but then slowed to its present expansion speed.

@ Chris' Wife - it's inaccurate to say that we don't know what a star is because we're studying the one that's 93,000,000 miles away from us… Our own sun. We know how that particular star behaves and we're able to recognize similar behavior in distant stars. But when I read Genesis regarding the 6 days of creation I followed the formula I was taught early on… Look at words and phrases that are repeated again and again. Consider the biblical audience it was originally written to, look for patterns and rhythms. And during days 1-4 you're seeing separations and clarifications. You're seeing void and obscurity become defined and clear. You're seeing chaos become order. And you don't have something defining a 24 hour day until day 4. And I think it is odd that he says "then there was evening and there was morning the first day" and so on. I don't see that defining a 24 hour day ...placing lights in the sky to define a 24 hour day happens on day 4. Prior to that evening to morning could very well describe moving from void to something, chaos to order, obscurity or confusion to clarity and so on. God is the master of time not the other way around. God exists outside of time, space, matter, energy, and our physics ...otherwise he couldn't have created them. He's not from this realm… We are of this realm because we were created in it. We are bound by this realm but he is not. We don't know what his "day" consisted of in the beginning… He gave US a 24 hour day on day 4. That's what I read. It doesn't make him less of a creator. But it relieves us of the burden of trying to comprehend how he went about it because he is clearly way beyond our comprehension. He gave us a sequence of events and outline to go by and the rest is faith.

From Southern California. Great information and thank you for sticking to the authority of Scripture especially for creation week in Genesis 1! Yes, creation is a miracle spoken into existence by Jesus.

Really great content and this tracks with my private belief of the way miraculous creation of a fully formed universe then entered a "run time" fully functioning universe.

I agree . Nature isn't natural. It's super natural. All creation is supernatural. We live in a supernatural world.

How can a finite mind understand an infinite mind.

That last complete comment from the doctor was like a compilation of all the theories of late, it was most comprehensive. I so appreciate him and your podcast ❤️

What if the Bible is not to be interpreted literally? After all, literal interpretation of the Bible is a relatively new phenomenon.

We have to keep two major points in mind: 1) God did what is in the Bible. 2) The stars are there for reasons. If humans couldn't see the stars, then what good would they be? My personal belief is that since God made the rules, he suspended the rules during creation and then set the rules -- including light speed. If you think about this, it explains why we can see the stars, but then light speed would be as it is now. The point is, God is true and we believe Him. End of subject. Psalm 8:3 English Standard Version When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,

A humble, inquisitive mind is a good thing. Our natural arrogance is not a good thing. Read and ponder God’s response at the latter end of Job. When i consider how many times our smartest men have thought that they had something figured out only to later be proven entirely incorrect I am instantly skeptical when I hear someone who thinks they know something.

What if God, before time existed in eternity past, conceived the cosmos fully complete, then when He spoke each day into existence, it came to be in a form that is billions of years old, as each day proceeds forward in real-time? That would satisfy the six days of creation, the distant starlight problem, and would not contradict the Biblical genealogy and prophecies of God's word. The Earth is where the Biblical story begins. Our Salvation is what His story is about, and Jesus, the Word of God, is the story's hero.

Great job, Dr. Faulkner. You kept your explanation Biblically acceptable.

Watching from S Carolina, USA. God bless AIG

Brisbane Australia Love your work ❤️

Sometimes thinking too much is most of the problem

One solution to this problem seems to be that God is stretching out the heavens as it says in the Bible. Einstein said nothing can move faster than light inside the universe and it was found that space itself is the only thing (we know of) that can move faster then light. If God is stretching out the heavens now and it's getting faster and faster, then he can stretch them as fast as He wants. If He stretched out the space really fast in the beginning then we would be able to see the light way quicker the if the light traveled at it's own speed.

Firstly, according to the Bible, on the first day God created light. Since the Earth did not exist yet the six days of creation mentioned in the Bible cannot refer to earthly days. Secondly, who's to say that the Almighty God cannot create an eternal Universe?

When God said,"Let there be light". It was so. It doesn't matter if its is billions of miles away or not. The answer to that question lies in The creation of Man. How old was Adam when God breathed life into him? Was he a full grown Man or a Baby? The same holds true with the universe. When He spoke it into creation it didn't have to expand or evolve, it just happened.

Watching from FL, but not live

Fun Fact: Adam and Eve didn't start aging until after the Fall. So, trying to use the genealogical record from the Bible to calculate/determine the age of the universe is not going to be a very accurate way to do it, especially since we have no idea how much time had passed before the Fall.

Amen! Good work AIG

God's creation of the universe was miracleas and supernatural so it then follows that the processes he used was also miracleas and supernatural which means the normal and natural way things form and grow could have been supernaturally accelerated throughout the creation week and that includes the speed in which light moves in a vacuum now of course I don't know for sure whether or not the LORD done it that way but that is the way I take it which is based on my understanding of the creation account and may or may not be the way he done it?

I really like this guy. Nice to have someone on our side with expertise to explain this question. I’ve always just believed it by faith understanding that my thinking is finite and God is God. But love it when things God has done gets “scientifically” proven. Love it

Very good narrative. Thank you!

We are alive because of GOD ETERNAL LIGHT WE NEVER DIE.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: several verses say God stretched out the stars.

In my solution which I get from my feeling from God is that he created the stars, galaxies, and everything else in the universe within our view and then spread out the universe. He never said where he created them so why do we assume that he created them light years away. I think he created them possibly within a few days of light away and then pushed them or spread them out as stated. On course we’d be able to see the light from them as he moved them farther and farther away.

I like everything Danny said, and think his Dasha solution could be correct. It may be compatible the ASC concept, described at time 16:00 through 17:00 in the video, which I think is true. But at time 16:24+ when describing a convention with an infinite speed of light outgoing from its source, I think Danny accidently said the returning speed of light was 2c, (or twice the measured 2-way speed of light, c), on its return trip distance, d, from the mirror, when I think he meant to say it was half the measured 2-way speed of light, or 1/2 c. 1/2c over returning distance d, combined with an infinite speed over the outgoing same distance d, averages for a combined speed equal to the measured 2-way speed of light, c, (over the combined distance 2d). Thanks for this video.

Thank you when so many are lied to and confused

As the Bible says I who have stretched out the heavens

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The ancient near east did not view time strictly as incremental units of measurement, but rather the period in which processes unfold.

Answer is so simple - God is the creator of stars and light. He also created the light waves extending from the stars to the earth at the same time he created the stars. His greatness and ability is beyound we humans can ever think if,

The background information for this video says 'Most Christians are at a loss as to how to answer the question of distant starlight'. After watching the video, it seems Dr Faulkner is also at a loss. I'm happy to accept 'it's just a miracle' as an explanation, but I suspect that answer won't impress many scientifically minded enquirers.

I like to think of the whole of the universe as a playground that God has made for us to explore for eternity. That is not in the Bible, it's really just wishful thinking on my part.

I'm late to the show, but if Dr. Faulkner considers that the way we see the universe is actually within 6,000 years (real-time view), then the assumption that light travels toward us at a known speed (a light-year), then how can we use the light-year as a unit of measurement to know the distance of celestial bodies? I'm on board with the logic, as I too have difficulties with the Mature Creation view (which I've previously held), but missing something here in regards to modern-day evaluation of what we see.

Was watching KZfaq, and heard a minister or a creationist say they thought if God would’ve created the stars in one day and made the starlight appear immediately on earth, that would be deceptive or deceitful. Hmmm. How deceptive is it to make Adam a full grown man and fully matured??? Bottom line; if God creates all the atoms to begin with, he can definitely do what he wants, and knows all the end results of his actions, i.e. what’s good and bad.

The term "scientific method" emerged in the 19th century, when a significant institutional development of science was taking place and terminologies establishing clear boundaries between science and non-science, such as "scientist" and "pseudoscience", appeared.

There's actually question over weather or not we can accurately measure light speed so if that's true that could offer explanation. But I'm also willing to accept the ideas in this video.

Hello AIG from Fairfield, Montana! Looking forward to what you have to say about distant starlight. From what I have read, it seems the secularists not only have their own problems with distant starlight, but they also have far more problems, many of which are far more serious, and many of them fatal to their secular model. Aloha and God bless! Keep up the good work!

0:49 What exact ongoing processes would preclude this being only 1 light day up?

Let me go ahead and crush the most common argument from young earth believers, we are in the 7th day. Over 24 hours, it makes the entire “die on this hill” mentality of 6 - 24 hour days entirely moot. In the end it only matters that we believe in Christ as our savior. But it’s insane how many people throw out Gods gift if critical thought.

This was fantastic. I thought the Word said both "stretched" and "stretches". Anyway, I love how honest and relaxed this presentation is. I'd be interested in a more detailed timeline of a matured eclipsing binary system. The point he made is well taken, that if the eclipsing we see did not actually happen then that seems problematic. Keep these videos coming

What if the universe was much smaller at the start? And for some reason massively expanded

One of the greatest problems when the vast majority of scientists just accept on going theories as unquestionable truths is that it makes them ask the wrong questions. They miss out coming up with theories that would truly enlighten reality. This is why creationist are so much more fascinating to listen to. They are starting with the truth of God’s word.

He called the light, day and the darkness night. A day is defined as a period of light and darkness, rather than a period of time. The first 4 days are before the sun and we don’t know how long they were.

I have learned something in my life, if the Bible says so, I believe it.

Ephesians 5:11-14 NKJV And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them... For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. Therefore He says: “Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light. Amen..

Glory to God in the highest!

I like Dr. Humphreys details on the magnetosheres, and basic information about the solar system objects, how Newton's, Kepler's, and others with the set of practical physics formulas. He basically showed the correlation of the objects in the Solar system by their properties. Russ is a practical Astrophysicist with Sandia Labs of Bell Labs, this gives him practical experience few people possess. It is such a huge topic, the more distant phenomena, such as the Solar system, into extrastellar space. Even internal clocks of ICs & crystals, are greatly affected by forces other variables. Going into these with hypertheticals, end up needing many unknown constants which end up growing up into a juggling act.

If you don't have the actual physical star et al it is impossible to create regardless of what the astronomers say. Example is an EKG. It is done over and over and relatively accurate. But, if a person has a third artery called a remus (I think that's the name), so this could be something in and/or around this star that is undetectable. The EKG won't show if you had a heart attack because the EKG most times (99%) cannot pick up that third artery and thus the only way to see if the person had a heart attack was through extensive blood work, not simple blood work and they have to look for certain enzymes that a markers for saying, yeah that person had a heart attack. Also, dating items they can hold well, they are incorrect at times too. So, it is impossible unless you physically have it in front of you and you "can touch it" whatever it is and even then one can make mistakes, just read the above heart attack scenario. You may come close, but it is difficult to be 100% and if you aren't 100% then that is speculation. God Bless!!✝️✝️✝️

It will be interesting to see what data the Webb telescope provides.

Time is relative is not a concise statement, it is better put, time is local!

Most people jumped into conclusions that in this verse light is shortcut for time period when Sun light is on, by their daily experience. But this verse says nothing about time period, neither Sun, so it is better just explained as it is literally, that is day = light, than followed morning and evening be explained as between or mixed of light and darkness

Why doesn’t anyone explore the possibility that the speed of light is slowing down? The experiments over the last few hundred years have shown a general decrease in the speed of light even after you account for the margin of error in those older tests. Why does nobody do any research in that direction? I understand that we can’t go back 300 years and repeat their experiments, but we have good data from about 30 years ago. Is our precision insufficient to determine whether the speed of light has changed since the 80s?

The appeal of Humphrey’s time dilation model for me is that it explains the separation of the waters below from the waters above and the identification of the expanse - though I heard that Danny has the same idea of this, so maybe it’s not directly dependent on that model. As I understand Danny, the big reason to question time dilation is the evidence of events happening in the universe which look like they should’ve taken millions of years under normal circumstances, raising the same question of why God would’ve created galaxies to give the false impression of a collision which never happened. So whereas there may have been time dilation or supernatural increase of c, there was also evidently a speeding up of the events that were occurring out there. Although I don’t see why this wouldn’t just be two ways of describing the same thing: sped up, or time dilation. From the earth’s reference frame, more apparent time has passed in the outer universe, and so why one would imply Old Earth and the other not is beyond me at the moment

Question? Combining creation with the prophetic time variable, even bringing up current prophetic words given by the late Kim Clement, concerning " he saw a new planet, and a strange new light appearance in our galaxy " ? Could this if it appeared in our life cycle be from the Andromeda system?

We do not know what the physics of the universe were at that time. We are just now trying to understand all of this. We may never be able to figure it out. We try to understand this in our turns. All of that said I still appreciate the attempt of trying to find these mysteries and all of the debate. The Bible tells us that it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the duty of kings to find them out.

Simple solution is, the universe is old, the earth is young. That explains light from distant stars. God is eternal, what would you think he was doing before he made the earth?

So many ideas you guys have. Light is like a garment. God wears it like a garment. Jacob had coat of many colors. God stretched out the heavens like a curtain and the light was stretched with it. Not just the space.

Would love your thoughts on the position taken by Barry Setterfield that the speed of light is slowing down, and was therefore much faster in the past. He also relates this inversely to decay rates and the extended lifetimes of the patriarchs. Thanks.

I am a scientist with a particular passion for Astronomy, and I teach Astronomy and General Relativity and have found a compelling argument made in the Anisotropic Synchronous Convention put forth by both Albert Einstein and Dr. Jason Lisle. And I would respectfully Disagree with Dr. Faulkner about the scientific method. The modern scientific method was developed by Galileo in response to Aristotelian thinking that the world around us can be explained primarily through logic and reasoning. Aristotle taught that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones, and Galileo came along and tested it through experimentation. He also did similar things with observing moons of Jupiter, and sun spots which gave rise to the observational aspect of the scientific method. The modern scientific method is Observe, Test, Repeat and that line of thinking really became popular with Galileo, and not the 1980s. So I would strongly disagree with his assertion there.

Communications between earth and voyager space crafts can be calculated based on the speed being the same in both directions. There are no differences detected. This tells me that the the different speeds theory is not accurate, at least in our solar system. Is there some explanation for this?

Why should the speed of light be different one way from the other way, towards and away from us❓️

Antediluvian mankind couldn't see stars with the clarity described in Job because the firmament would have dispersed the light. Rather than observe individual stars, the sky probably glowed brightly during the day and softly at night.

Exegesis vs. Eisegesis “Ex-” means to take out of, while “eis-” means “into.” So quite simply, exegesis means digging into the text to pull out the meaning, while its opposite, eisegesis, reads meaning into a text that isn’t there.

I'm not a young earth creationist, but I believe time ran more quickly in the past. It seems reasonable that as spacetime expands, something changes. I don't believe it solves the problem for YEC's, but it's interesting nonetheless. As scientists observe very distant stars with a known brightness, the stars are acceleratng faster and faster from us, the further those stars are away. Time running more quickly in the past would explain this phenomenon.

I've also thought of the expanding ball as a theory for the galaxies to be stretched by the hand of God.

I've heard about the idea of the speed of light being different, as well as the speed of light changing over the years. And then also that space is expanding in every direction which means that stars were likely a lot closer in the past as they are now. So looking at something that is a thousand light years away now might have been a hundred in the past.

Our Father God said that he stretched out the heavens like a garment. So he started in the centre and spread it out. It was illuminated, and the illumination was moved far away. So the light was always present from the earth's formation location yet to be,, and moved to the distant we now see. And it is still expanding.

Here’s a good answer. When God made Adam, how old was he? Some would say maybe 20 or 25 years old. That’s not true, he was 1 day old. God made him with age already. God can make things with age on them already, including stars, galaxies… etc, and/or matured in fast forward and have the light coming from them, stretched out already. Of course it’s fun to speculate, the science of it. Just saying, could also be added age. Another thing, certain things on earth, weird findings, a tree buried deep in the ground, it was younger than the rock above it… etc, with the flood, we don’t know how all that pressure of water changed the age of rocks, dirt..etc. plus, God probably made some mountains/rocks with age on them.

It states very clearly in the word of God that God is "stretching out the universe"... So that means that the question should be "How did the light get THERE FROM HERE?" Not "How does the light get here from there?"

I find the Dasha theory quite fascinating. Dr. Faulkner, since you state that it is based on the miraculous (which I would wholeheartedly agree to), could one possible answer to the question about the 1987 supernova and other such things be something along the line of the following? Since we have formation and rapid maturing (hence your use of "matured" vs. "mature"), could it not be that the formation of the stars and the speed of light was actually sped up initially to arrive at the end of day 6 with light then traveling at the speed which we know today? Since we are speaking of the miraculous, it would fit the theory. Furthermore, we could think of it like a car with the cruise control on. You can have your cruise set to 55mph but can speed up to whatever (let's say 90mph). For a few moments you are traveling at 90mph; then, when you take your foot off the accelerator your speed is dropping constantly until you hit 55mph, at which point you continue traveling at that speed. Just my $0.02. Maybe there's a hole in my analogy that I haven't considered, but I thought I would throw it out there.

The best explanation I've heard is from Jason Lisle where he explains its a matter of synchronization conventions. We use Einsteins synchronization convention which assumes light travels the same speed both ways. But what if it doesnt? What if it's a matter of the viewpoint of the observer?

I think to a degree I agree. The question of distant starlight was the final question I had about Biblical young creation. The thing that answered it the most for me is looking at inflationary theory. Apparently even science has to concede that whether or not the speed of light is constant now, it was not the speed it is now at the creation of the universe, it would have had to be much faster.

A dithering response to a good question.

Sometimes we have a miracle happen in our lives that is undeniable, and in rare instances, it proves that God is both omnipresent in time and space. That can really change your view of creation. He knew things that were going to happen without mistake.

Science should have left the bats alone.

I find it entirely plausible that since God is outside of time, and therefore time is a construct created by God, at creation, God could have simply "sped up" time as everything was coming into being at His command. Similar to how we might fast forward on a movie. And so there would be potential evidence for "billions of years" in geology or astronomy when this was all happening in but a moment. This is my peasant view of things at least.

The problem with religion is when mankind explores new ideas and tries to understand mysteries these people go on the offense thinking they are being attacked. The great Carl Sagan said it right. [We are all Star Dust].

This may explain why distant galaxies look more mature than they should.

Imagine it like this: This video will take you an hour to watch, but if you watch the first half at 2x speed and the rest at normal speed, then it will only take 45 minutes to watch. Changing the speed will have no effect on their conversation and the video will play out the exact same way. The only differance will be that it took less time to watch. It is just like the plants on day 3, which we can asume started growing at a normal speed after they were fully grown, beacasue other wise they would grow out of control.

I've often though about all this and I've come up with what if God doesn't actually reside within the universe and if that was the case time would be practically irrelevant. It may have been 7 days from God's perspective outside the universe but within each day was 100s of millions of years. I don't know how it all went down but I do believe it's God's work. I think everything has happened exactly the way it suppossed to work and that if the universe is 13 billion years old or 6k its because that's how it had to be for it to work. How do we know this is his first universe?

Lets face it, it is not the light that people have problems with, its the Creator of it. Will man ever understand the mind of God, no only till they see him face to face.

Hi. Great discussion. But what happened before day one, when God created the heaven and the earth?

I agree,I get a lot of " How that's not possible". I'm like REALLY !!!! !!! IT'S GOD!!!!

Challenge from a teaching perspective: "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." -Albert Einstein

Some People assume that when God created the heavens that they were where they are at the present time. but the Bible says he stretched out the heavens. Even radio frequencies travels through a vacuum at the same speed of light so there is very little restriction in a vacuum. If he stretched them out, that means anything that you can comprehend or see with the eye microscope, or telescope would have fit between his arms and hands when they were stretched out how long would it take you to stretch your hands out? They failed to see just how big God really is, for all we know, this whole universe may very well fit in his pocket. What is really amazing is that he knows all there is to know about the smallest thing. A man can see the largest thing there can be now just how amazing is that

God said, let there be light, and there was light. He brought the light in the twinkling of the eye to the earth. Its only hard if you dont believe in God.

Ok....My question is.....How do we know beyond any doubt that these stars are millions of miles away from us?