straight facts! competition is great

Exactly

No, scalpers will win, just look at how many rtx 4090 got into scalpers hands.

@@lambvindaloo Most aren't making much of anything given tax and listing eBay fees.

if you have no money then no

I doubt it but that would be impressive

The only losers are the ones with a melted 4090 connector

@@RayBanda is that the minority or majority of 4090 users?

@@AceStarkXD I'd say about half of the people using the adapter. Some went with the corsair one(doesn't have the same issue) or the pcie 5 ready PSU like me.

@@AceStarkXD At this point a minority, but it's pretty much a ticking time bomb it seems. The adapter is extremely cheaply made and will only degrade the more you plug/unplug it. Some people have burnt connectors without even knowing it, as reported in Reddit.

Hope ya heard of an oligopoly

@@user-s8jb3qb6y This Chipmaking is under Monopoly of ASML. Whoever is in favor of them will lose or win. Currently that's TSMC and whoever TSMC want's to win will win. And no one can just buy a production line at TSMC. If you are big enough to get a deal there you already talked to everyone that makes their chips there.

@@durschfalltv7505 Why not just nationalize it? Why can't the United States government just be in charge of its own NASA-like chip fabs? What happens if China takes over Taiwan?

@@pandemicneetbux2110 asml is dutch

@@durschfalltv7505 I was thinking about TSMC and all the other Taiwanese companies, which does matter considerably geostrategically ironically making little Taiwan of such greater importance than I think people realize and why US is willing to go to war over that island. Also why Biden wisely is putting up more chip fabs, I mean it's just Intel so far afaik but still. Leaving our silicon, oil, all these things leave USA vulnerable.

I know the feeling. My current system is an Intel 9th gen. with an EVGA 3080 (until a few months ago I was running a 1080 Ti). The last AMD system I built was an Athlon XP 2000+ and a Radeon 9700 (R300). That thing ran better, and faster, than the 2 Intel/Nvidia systems I built a year later. Looks like it might be time to build another AMD system next year.

I went ALL amd with my last build and have 0 regrets. Go ahead and join club RED. XD

If you're sitting with a 20 series card, you might be just the audience it sounds like AMD is hoping to reach. You're going to need PCI gen 4 and reBAR to take full advantage of this thing, I'm pretty sure, so if your other components are lagging a bit you might need to upgrade those. This generation doesn't sound like they're aiming for 4080, let alone 4090 performance. But if they can deliver 3080/3090 performance at good price points without breaking the bank or lighting something on fire … they're gonna sell a lot of them.

DLSS is the king, FSR is just bad and they will never compete for me.

@@Takisgr07 This is pretty pretty massive fanboy energy. DLSS is really great but saying FSR Doesn't/Never Will compete is just blatantly untrue. It's pretty close anyways and the only time you'll ever want to use either of them is -If you're on a really old, shit card, FSR is A Godsend and DLSS just isn't an option -If you're In 4k or higher, where the difference is actually negligible Not to mention that DLSS3.0's Frame increase puts a *heavy* strain on input lag, which is extremely important to the gaming experience, i wouldn't even say that it's better than 2.0

They have SAM which should boost them a bit more above the 2x over the RX 6000 that works better then Nvidia's resize bar when their CPUs paired so that's really good enough there lol.

AMD lacks behind in Raytracing performance

Tbh the biggest reason I don't want 4090 or 40 series in general is because it has display port 1,4 that supports up to 4k 120 if you go beyond that you get screen tearing yes you can use some software to fix it a bit but it's still dosent look better than a GPU that has display port 2,0 that supports 4k 240 so you can go beyond 120 fps with out getting screen tearing and don't need to use software

@@BlammoGer And 4090's lack new gen Display ports so you can't even effectively use its full performance.

@@awsm253 that’s complete bullshit 😂

For the top end parts that actually use MCM, yes. AMD also has a habit of using smaller die sizes and this time around, they are using a cheaper process at TSMC. They also have focused on performance per mm² of die space, as well as efficiency. In other words, the exact opposite design objectives as Nvidia. AMD will have great margins on these cards. But it's not just because of a single technology. It's because these products were engineered flat out *better* than Nvidia's.

they are 300+ size chips so they arent small enough to have the adv you're talking about. the lower tiers are monolethic

Produktion of the silicon is much cheaper than Nvidia, smaller overall die size, cheaper nodes, higher yields. Packaging however is more expensive. In the end it's a simple math problem. There's probably a good reason to stay monolithic for the lower SKUs with smaller die sizes

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br do you realize how big top end Nvidia designs are lmao

@@johnscaramis2515 i think that that was to keep the cards coming. i bet we get a refresh with chiplets going down the stack next year. when they get the bugs worked out of the drivers for rdna 4, i think we will see a deep mcm approach to most of their cards. this time around they need the time to get it tuned in on drivers before making any huge changes to the whole line up. we might start seeing mcm on laptop as some of those defective chips are use in mobile. that'd be where i'd use them, thin and lite laptops that can actually game like an desktop without a dedicated gpu in them.

well price will always be lower than Nvidias, they just can't charge more (consumer mentality) just lets hope the expected performance is up the task and no game breaking bugs with new chiplet design

What is really bothering me about Nvidia is how impossible it is to get their new cards... Ive spent DAYS at my PC watching the in stock alert sites and before I can click add to cart, they are gone. I'm done. It didn't used to be this way... I suspect Nvidia intentionally limits supply to drive up demand. Perhaps miners had something to do with it before, but that excuse is long gone. Could it simply be that there are more PC gamers? There has been growth, but I cant believe to the degree the scarcity of these new cards would suggest.

@@demagescod9657 NVIDIA is absolutely artificially limiting stock. They were doing it late in the 30 series life and they are absolutely doing it now

@@demagescod9657 I mean yeah they are definitely limiting stock but that's not the only nor the biggest problem. surely you are aware that scalping is the main and most devastating issue right now with these GPU drops being sold out in seconds?

@@leviferrero6068 Yea I am aware... and they do nothing to stop it.... Should not be too hard to require their vendors to put anti bot and scalper protections in place. They just dont care.

I just built a similar system. R7 5700X/Radeon 6750XT. I'm very happy with its performance and value. It's not the fastest but it does everything I need it to do without any problems. Definitely a step up from my old Ryzen 5 2600. I've been with AMD for well over 25 years now. Probably stay with them unless Intel changes its business practices.

I'm on a bit older but Im running a R7 2700 / 5700 XT. I overclocked both lightly and I've been very happy.

am4 platform has been a very good "bang for buck" platform and still is tbh. i would suggest using 32gb ram if playing competitive games 1080 at resolution.

Same here. Last week built one with a 5600X and a 6600XT. It's actually my first full AMD desktop. Most of my laptops where either Intel+AMD/NVIDIA, and the components that where inside the desktop tower before were a FX 6300 and a GTX 950. I'm so, but so satisfied with my current build, taking into consideration that I usually play 1440p60.

I upgraded my 2600x/580 to a 5800x/6700XT last year when I upgraded from 1080p to 1440p and its working great for me. Both the CPU and GPU upgrades were very noticeable in gaming, but it looks like this combo is good enough for now. My next upgrade will occur whenever I move to 4k or VR gaming, but I'm not see seeing either of those happening this gen

I already am in a 6800XT and have been for two years. Smooth sailing. But what really surprised me was FSR on my Steam Deck. That running on the extreme low end makes it a feature. Whereas DLSS is a crutch for the high end of nVidia to lean on because rt is not yet ready for prime time. I will probably sit this gen out unless either team green or team red extremely surprise me. I am good.

I’m currently on my 2080ti and looking at what Team Red has to bring. I was looking into the 4090 till I saw the issues coming with them. As someone who’s currently playing @4k, this is exciting knowing I’ll be able to turn up my graphics settings

@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 to be fair, there are serious weak spots with AMD drivers currently, caused by hw acceleration issues likely. Nvidia had similar issues at some point But if they sail through them, Adrenaline have much more appealing style for me, imo. And overall performance definitely isn't bad

We'll have to wait and see ! Can't wait to see the reviews !

@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 Calling DLSS a crutch is as senseless as calling hardware acceleration a crutch. DLSS is a feature* that enhances performance at virtually no cost. and ray tracing went prime time long ago when RTX 3000 series first release. Try keeping up with the times man. But I don't blame you. You have been stuck on AMD so its not your fault for being behind on the latest technologies. Lets at least hope, for your sake, that in AMD's forever task of trying to keep up with Nvidia... that they manage to squeeze in "frame generation" in their new GPU series before release date. There is a reason why "they way its meant to be played" is a phrase associated with the Nvidia logo.

AMD rx 6700 gives 33% more fps per watt than rtx 3060ti. Why Nvidia such a power hog? Cant they fine tune their gpus?

@@fynkozari9271 4090 - power target to 70% you barely lose any fps, but watt 450 -> 330

@@De-M-oN I have to be honest, expecting people that have to detune / retune their graphics card, rather than do it automatically, in order to save power is not a great implementation. It's one thing when someone is chasing higher tier performance. It's another thing when someone is tuning because your factory power curve sucks.

Dude i just got a Rage128. Finally a card i can afford.

I got a 6800xt two weeks ago too but I am not quite getting the performance promised. No matter the game, I get roughly 40 less FPS than in the benchmarks with the same CPU. Benchmarks with the I5-12600kf, they get 160 fps in gta 5, I get 120; they get 120 in Cyberpunk, I get 65. They get 60 fps with RT on ultra, I get 40. Any tips?

@@wallachia4797 Maybe the airflow in your case is bad and causing thermal throttling?

@@wallachia4797 Depends on what resolution you play

@@wallachia4797 Use ODS sensors while gaming to check where your bottleneck is. (like MSI Afterburner)

well they are more efficient per watt even if its drawing a larger amount total, the 4090 is a tad ridiculous but its also just the top tier draw all it can for as much performance sake. if ya need lower draw without changing the GPU's settings at all the lower tier cards are always a better pick. even in the future we are still likely to see high wattage top end cards from both AMD and Nvidia.

A GTX 1060 is basically the same power draw as an RTX 3050 and that beats the 1060 by about 20-30% in performance. Nvidia are getting slightly more efficient but AMD seem to be doing much better.

This is the misconception it creates. They are more efficient, it just that they keep bumping up the watts to keep improving performance; and it seems that trend will continue for quite a while.

I think it's a good idea to skip one gen, in my case I have a 5700xt, so it make sense to buy an rtx 4000 series or AMD 7000...

I’m keeping my 6800xt too at least until 7000 series refresh late next year like a 7950xt

Seeing what AMD has to offer before upgrading my 2070S as well. I was planning on going with Nvidia but I may have to go with AMD depending on the price and driver stability.

Good idea, and as well, not often are AMD more expensive than NVIDIA in comparison so waiting may also have saving $$, assuming AMD comes in under priced.

Same, sitting on a 2070 and a R7 2700x

Same situation here with my R7 2700x and a 2080

Tbh I have a 2070s. Probably going to save my money this time around. Newer GPU's are going to want 5800x3D minimum for maximum benefits, plus I'm still rockin 1080p monitors. So for me I might as well save for another gen or two until I can go all out on something crazy when DDR5 is fully adopted and components easily maintain clocks while not requiring a spaceship to cool.

I have a single word for this new graphics card AMD lineup: Stability. If you enjoy your game crashing with absolute consistency, vote Team Red.

@@2leggedpirate265 Hmm? You sound a little mad...

@@VesperAegis You have no idea… mister nvidia fanboy 😂 Stability is pretty awesome with Amd since RX6000….

@@2leggedpirate265 Where do you get your statistics? 😂 Do you really think everyone with a faulty adapter is putting a thread on reddit? 😂

@@leosi5888 Sorry all I heard was BBSSSSOOODDDDDDDDD

why a new PSU? personally I bough my 850W ~2 years ago. yesterday I've connected the Inno 4090 (3x8pins) to that, and everything just runs perfectly (Z690 MoBo and i7-12700KF). so... new PSU is absolutely not obvious for a 4090.

@@tamaslichtenberger8529 Because the new nvidia cards all use the 16-Pin 12VHPWR connector and almost no PSU on the market provides this connector WITHOUT an ADAPTER. And as many have reported, those adapters are a fire hazard

@@TheGamerFreak007 exactly, plus if you dont even meet the new power draw to begin with youll still save more money going with 7000 series

Something people seem to forget when it comes to the ”competition” is that it’s meant to knock an opponent out. And when an opponent gets knocked out, workers lose. So keep that in mind when you celebrate that ”competition”.

3070 is better

Same setup here and I've been happy with the results. RDNA3 is looking promising for sure.

I have 5900x with 6700xt. I got 6700xt red devil with a special Amazon prime day deal. 269.99

@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 Might be. But it also costs a full hundo more at least.. for what? A 1-3% difference? They trade blows depending on which game you pick/play, similar to RX6800 vs 3070Ti

@@ShimaS-0079 Fantastic price

Got the same card.. i was thinking about upgrading to a 4070/4070 ti depending on the price and how much better performance…. I built my first gaming pc with the 6700xt and want to see what nvidia offers in terms of performance

I'm in a similar boat with a 6900XT. If AMD delivers on these rumors and performs extremely well for less power and money, then it's a slam dunk as far as I'm concerned.

My XFX 6700XT Merc has been an awesome card despite what I paid for it. Those "horrible" AMD drivers haven't crashed once.

@@ronhaworth5808 mine have crashed multiple times in the year i have had it.. 1 time a week is usually right. Its not that bad but still

Only if the price to performance ratio is in the green. If not, I'm a stay with Nvidia.

Just fired up my 9800 Pro today on a duron 1400! Its a great card

Why ryzen over intel tho? 13th gen better than ryzen 7000

Its really difficult to let my intel and Nvidia streak go haha... Currently running a 9900k and a 3090, so i think i will wait untill 8000 series and 14/5000 series from Intel/Nvidia to see whats going to happen! Cant wait!

@@cennty6822 Because its cheaper in europe, mobos are cheaper in Europe, efficiency cores act silly in win 10 (might be an invalid argument if it was fixed) , less tdp , and probably will be a better upgrade path even though I don't plan on upgrading.

@@cennty6822 You could argue E-cores are useless for high end cpu's. But at the same time the X3D edition will smoke intel in a few months time + AM4/AM5 have amazing upgrade paths.

gift me the 6900 if you do :)

same with me though moved from a 3090 to a 6900xtu liquid devil, same performance but lower power which is a win win for me

Same with mine. I'm waiting for the Vcache GPU's that are now being teased for next year. Probably 7950XT? Gonna wait for that if the rumors are true. Still impressed with my 5800X3D. Great CPU. Will be waiting for the 7000's Vcache CPU's as well

Too much money (or credit utilization) and not enough sense. Waste

I got a 5700xt pretty much at release and it was almost unusable. Now that the drivers have matured I've not had a single issue in more than a year. AMD cards have come a long way.

v-cache is a local feature. They will not interact each other or at least magnify performance. However it is nice to have both.

Than. NOT then.

I agree I upgrade from 6800 xt red devil to a 3090TI and AMD Adrenaline program is alot easier to use than Nvidia program. Maybe if the new graphics card I'll switch back.

shill

@@basshead. guat speaky inglish pls

@@racemastergamer dont really think it was worth upgrading from a 6800xt to a 3090ti... but I have found AMd Adrenaline is better then Nvidia at least when I had my 2080 and 980 before that. I think AMD days of having bad drivers 5-10 years ago has poisoned people to continue the myth, because at least at present I think AMD is superior. However I dont feel the drivers for either are bad/good enough to really influence what card you buy. Discounting Intel that is.

elegant, and not so brute force 🤣🤣 be serious dude, we just want the most bang for a our bucks 🙄

6800XT is a beast for non RT gaming,1440p high refresh rate on almost every game

you can already run a 4090 with 70% power for 10% loss in performance...

… but…but… you want R/G/B… we all know that is the fastest?

He said that with the RT and rasterization uplift it's going to only slightly overtake the 3000 series.

@@pf4934 I don't have a 3080, but wanted to get one. Have not done so at this point hence waiting for RDNA3 results now :)

@@nevermindthe90s He said that it's going to slightly overtake the 40-series in raster, and overtake the 30-series in RT.

That'd let me vert mount in my case. Looks way better.

They have already shown the card

@@Moonmonkian*vert-mount It's a modifier, and needs a hyphen. Use grammar, yo. You're not allowed to game before you do your English-homework and understand the concept. Now off to your room you go! No PC!

Did you end up building one?

Im also happy with my gt 710

"budget 1080ti" lmao

My previous graphics beast was a 1080 ti too, what a great card still. I could only replace it with a beefy RX 6800 XT though with a 34" ultrawide.

Me with a 1050: "Did bro really just say _'budget'?_ 🤨"

2022 cards under $500 are definitely budget. Up until 3060's dropped to MSRP, the 1080/ti was the best price/performance value card available... I mean even at it's launch it was like getting titan tier performance for half the price... I remember debating going all out on a Titan when 1080 was out of stock but I really couldn't justify $1200 for gaming. Now Nvidia has cats dropping $2000 for "80's" series and crossing their fingers they don't catch fire... My how times have changed...

They probally will have a better price performance then Nvidia, same story as last gen.

AMD had released good cards at great prices with RDNA2. people are just blindly loyal to nvidia.

Yep, I've been with Nvidia for years...but if AMD interest me ima give them a try

Considering the price difference between top end cards last gen and will probably be cheaper this gen too

@@aerosw1ft yep i agree. I love my 6800xt even with the occasional software bug or driver bug. I ahd upgraded from a 2070 witch was also a great card. The new 40 series cards dont seem that appealing this time around

Nvidia will have an answer to that

@@doomslayerforever2858 If Price is no Object, there will always be an answer.

@@CorwinPatrick patience is key

4090 already slays 4K at native

Poetically accurate 👌

AMD is gouging right now too though. The last gen 5700 is basically par with the 6800XT as far as the configuration (one step back from full CUs) and it went from 350 to 650. (the 5700XT was the highest card that gen.)

@@dracdrum I had a 5700xt, I now have a 6700xt. I see a very noticeable difference. That said, if the price to performance isn't attractive, I remain very happy with my 6700xt. I waited through the price gouging once, I can again.

A moment of clarity is defined as that sober minded moment of reflection where you can see things with brutally efficient self honesty. Paying that kind of money for a graphics card to play videogames is the definition of not-sober minded. Really once I saw those prices and new AMD would up theirs that much as well is when I finally said forget it. Even my 5700XT still works fine and I don't even game much anymore anyway, so probably by the time I even reprioritize things and start vidya again the prices will have dropped.

6950XT myself, I won’t upgrade myself either - highly unlikely!

@@pandemicneetbux2110 To be fair, "sober self-honesty" means different things to different folks. While I'm finally able to actually exercise, I've spent the last 6 years recovering from terrible injuries and subsequent surgeries. Video Games were my life line to sanity. The entire reason I don't have a 4090 in my grubby paws right now is that priority has changed. While I'm hopeful AMD doesn't follow suit with pandemic pricing, time will tell. Until next week, everything is speculation. Unrelated, though, that 5700XT is an amazing card. It's how I sailed though much of my recovery haze.

@@ts757arse So you'd rather suffer with driver issues because of your loyalty to a multinational corporation, outstanding logic.

@@ts757arse Nvidia also has driver issues... Crashes with UE5 Hardware Lumen, can't use SSAA in anygame for years now... It's just annoying.

Yes my oldest son games on a i5 8600k with a 3060Ti works perfect💪

@@redstar612 until you start doing more than surf the web and play some you tube.

Just stick with Intel...AMD is still a mess when it comes to their CPUs/Mobos

i feel you, i'm still using my 6700k delidded with liquid metal tim and a cnc ihs, i'd like to adopt amd's next gen once things go on sale and early adopter pain goes away

@@AKTechIT Wow ! That's a bold statement. I'm curious what evidence/arguments you have to back that up, considering that reality shows the contrary.

I can say Wayland was nice on my 6900xt and eventually once Linux got ironed out with vfio my 5700g did well too.

Sort of, you also have more wiring between chiplets though. 1 chip is easier to implement.

Nvidia needs to suffer.

You're damn delusional if you think that's going to happen. AMD has consistently proven they can't compete with Nvidia. They will be cheaper, but they won't come close to the 40 series in preformance.

@@chrisconaway2334 price to performance yes they will

@@chrisconaway2334 cope more

@@chrisconaway2334 This is a big if, but if AMD can get 90% of the performance and sell it at 50% of the price, the overwhelming majority of the cards sold will be AMD. The bulk of the market couldn't afford a $1500 graphics card 4 years ago, let alone with the absolute state of today's global economy. Frankly, I think the mass market doesn't care if the 40-series is 10 or 20% faster than the new AMD cards. They can't afford to care.

I will probably going for the 7900xt and then wait 5 years for the next upgrade, man i can't wait for the 3rd!!!

You could also get a 4080 and be fine on that. The reviews are being stupid, cuz the card is actually pretty good and affordable. It’s the same as the 3080ti, but still more powerful. Though the price could’ve been dropped by just $100 to make it a better option.

Yeah I know once you need a 2000W power supply its time to plug your computer into the stove outlet. 🤣

@@phoenixrising4995 When they start talking about power supplies tracking a time average of power consumption so they can avoid tripping breakers but still burst above 1500W/1800W, then we know it's officially gotten nuts.

Man, that's crazy. Nobody would do that. They just gotta throw 2 power plugs onto their PSUs and instruct people to plug them in on different circuits.

FSR will be hardware accelerated. Meaning they have designed the tech to be sped up by processors on RDNA3 and higher. You will get greater fps gains AND lower latency along with it.

@@jesh879 hahaha wishful thinking

@@lawyerlawyer1215 not really

@@lawyerlawyer1215 not at all

@@lawyerlawyer1215 you have your head buried in the sand or something?

💯

What did you build?

exactly this, happy with the current build, likely to be more than enough for a good while yet. just interesting to see how things progress in general

What works really well for me with 5950x is using PBO, setting the limits to "Disabled" (so it'll use the defaults), then sorting Curve Optimiser. Thermals + wattage + performance is SO MUCH better. I use it for compiling code across all cores and runnings things that use all cores (data analysis etc) and it's amazing. Can't wait for the 7950x to sort itself out (pricing, thermals via delidding etc) and I'll upgrade.. that performance is crazy.

Hey :) Im diszturr ! :D n1 Call of duty Playar !:P

I had a mini split ac installed in my office, it's about only permanent fix.

@@MalcolmLionel I'm reluctant to install localized ventillation just for a desktop PC - we already have central ventillation and I don't even live in that warm of a country so it's more reasonable just to keep a lid on how much heat the machine will belch in to the room.

same as i keep my old 1600 af and just upgrade to 6700 xo and a 4k monitor. i stream more than i play and wanted 4k for movies and videos. total upgrade cost less than $700 for 28" and card, so i couldn't be more happy.

I’ll likely also upgrade to a 7900XT from my 6700XT depending on the pricing, wouldn’t really recommend upgrading to a 5800X3D from a 5600x though, as there isn’t too much difference in gaming performance, If that’s what you’re looking at primarily doing.

@@stonz_ i'm going to go up to the 3d wjen i upgrade later next year. older and fixed income so i can't keep up with the tech like before. :)

watch the thin and light laptop market or gaming laptops next year. they will have defective chips that they will have to put somewhere, i.e. thin and light laptops with gpu chips in an soc. almost desktop preformance without the dedicated gpu in them. then in two years or less the consoles will really start taking off as this chiplet design gives them more puich than ever before, just as ryzen did to them in cpu.

or you wait for the 7800X3D

Yeah i would wait for the 3D V-cache version too, for it's price current Zen 4 is really not that impressive compared to 13th gen where both the cpus and the motherboards are cheaper and they even perform better in most cases. (if you really want Zen 4 right now i would buy the 7900X instead, the 7700X's 8 cores against a 13700K having 8 cores and an additonal 8 e-cores is pretty massive in cpu heavy tasks)

@@kerotomas1 but Intel uses like 100 watts more so not everything is better but yeah mostly the motherboard prices hurt AMD

@@SoundwaveSinus9 the problem is that Intel only uses 100 watts more in benchmarks and cpu heavy tasks, if you are mainly gaming there is basically zero difference in power draw

How much are they? I mean besides the joke?

LEt me know if you are selling your old card :/

must be tough in kabul

@@eye776 Europe but Saying it in dollars lol

@@eye776 Then get a rx470/480/570/580, they go for like 70 euro.

@Ms Moon Boo and according to the rumors the 7000 will be waking all over the RTX 3000 series.

@Ms Moon Boo no it doesn't and why are you being a bloody fanboy for s giant corporation. If you have to shit on someone's stuff to validate your purchase, ya purchase clearly wasn't worth what ya paid for it. Be happy with your card that no one could get at msrp till 4 months ago and is now being rendered weak in comparison to new cards coming out. I say this having a 3080, but it wasn't the best value for money and its certainly not gonna be king shit in a couple of months.

I have a 3080 ti 1440 so unimpressed with RT. Gimmick comes to mind. DLSS 2 is cool.

@@jamiekelly6851 “why are you being a bloody fanboy to a giant corporation?” AMD: *Am I a joke to you* (Tfw AMD is also a big corporation lol)

He been looking unhealthy? Video name plz?

He's getting in shape to properly take advantage of holiday season gluttony. ;-) But seriously he does look he's lost some weight.

@@Labib-dw1lk it's more of an overall health comment. I've started looking at all of his videos over the past couple months and looking back a few years, he was bigger. He has clearly slimmed in the face and gained some upper body muscle.

@@shinramiddlemanager7949 sometimes it's the best comment. Very rarely do we compliment the little things that go unnoticed. Sometimes it's the difference between sticking with it and giving up. Either way, that's for the person receiving the compliment to figure out. But, if that's weird, I still don't regret saying it. :)

@@shinramiddlemanager7949 A bit dramatic, buddy.

Well there is going to be a 7900xt 2x the performance that going go head to head with 4090 the 7950xt is the highest which is going to go head with Nvidias 4090ti. . The 7900xt 1000$-1099 .n the 7950xt might be $1300-1600 But all we can do is wait.

I hope I can snatch a cheap used rx 6600xt when the 7000 launches from people that upgrade. I wanna finally get rid of my rtx 1060 3gb.

They will never match nvidia on raytracing Nvidia literally invented nearly everything to do with raytracing and are leagues ahead of anyone else in ai technology and rendering (that is of course the main purpose of Nvidia ) The only hope is that amd can at least be only 1 or two steps behind

@@Alucard-gt1zf Nvidia is one gen ahead of AMD in raytracing and current AMD raytricing gen is (most probably) better than previous Nvidia gen. I can easily see a future where in next 5 years AMD have the same performance. Nvidia knows this too. You think why they named "frame intereperation" as dlss?

@@Alucard-gt1zf What an insanely ignorant comment.... Nvidia did NOT invent "nearly everything to do with raytracing" what BS. For anyone who isn't a kid we remember back in the days of GCN vs Maxwell where Nvidia dominated in gaming performance but AMD did better in hardware rendering for productivity which is what? Path Tracing, the same workload of real time path tracing incorrectly branded as "ray tracing". The Reason AMD took that lead here was because of their wider architecture with more cores and memory bandwidth, Path Tracing unlike rasterization performance scales LINEARLY with cores and that favored AMD's wide architecture approach. AMD was criticized for not specifically designing a GPU made for gaming from the ground up, which they proceeded to do with RDNA. So if Path Tracing favors more cores what's so special about Nvidia's leap in real time path tracing performance starting with Turing? Hardware accelerated BVH generation which is a technique that significantly reduces the number of calculates required to find where a ray hit an object, GCN has no such ability but RDNA 3 does. Remember when I said Path Tracing scales LINEARLY with cores? Chiplets. In the future thanks to AMD's investments in chiplet architecture AMD can place an absurd amount of cores on a GPU which will be perfect for the Path Tracing workload. It's good they haven't neglected raster performance though, because we're still not ready for full path traced games and even if we were people will expect their shiny new GPUs to still run their older games, again, an advantage of the chiplet approach which Nvidia WILL use in the future too. Imagine a GPU with multiple Path Tracing chiplets and a single Raster chiplet for backwards compatibility with older games. DLSS 2.0 only excites me on Quality mode where the performance gains are less impressive but visuals are more or less intact and DLSS 3.0 is a bad gimmick due to the innate inpute latency it adds besides decimating image quality.

Supposedly AMD could become significantly more competitive at rendering. If only they where to push for their CUDA counterpart "ROCm" a bit more so that compute heavy workloads can squeeze out every bit out of both AMD and NVidia's offerings.

In theory the chiplet design would work best in productive workloads but I think it's on software developers to better support. Imagine a pro GPU made for HEDT users with 4 or even 8 chiplets. If the architecture is scalable beyond 2 chiplets then it'd be feasible, but that'd be one expensive GPU.

For that use case you don't need to upgrade at least in 5 more years

@@Miguel_Noether While this might be true for a working system I highly doubt that it will make it 5 more years. It does not run hot (old HAF x case) but I still fear it dying on me in the future. It started to do weird things from time already. While buying a new system isn't the cheapest thing I believe my current system has produced more cost in electricity than the initial cost was. I used to play games a lot back then. Therefore I'd rather change to a system that works the following 5+years. But I am curious on how my electricity bill would change. After all I am quiet amazed by the new tech. I changed my old 2013 gaming laptop for a Rog Flow X13 2022. While it's way more powerful when I need it to be, it also manages to stay pretty cool and have a good battery life. Considering it's size that's amazing. Chips for mobile use tend to be designed different to desktop ones though... hence my question

Mid tier parts these days during idle are fairly efficient. You can probably look up power draw videos about each part you want. I have a 10700k and a 6800xt and each part uses less than 100w when just watching videos. I thnk my processor uses like 40w and my gpu uses like 60-80w depending on video resolution. The newer cpu might use less power under light load vs the old one due to it being a better performance per watt part then what you currently have

@@herrsalz278 I would then advise to change step by step. Your 1080 is enough for the type of games you are playing and it can still play Cyberpunk without raytracing. But you could change the rest if you feel it's getting old or buggy. For example change your 4790k for 13600k. With that will come a new Mobo, CPU fan and Ram which should solve most of your issues. You are already looking at something around 500 and 1,000$ depending on the components you select (ie. a B660 + DDR4 vs a Z790 + DDR5) with a super decent improvement without a huge impact to your idle consumption. Then just in case you want to get a new gpu in 2-5 years, you should get a 750-850W PSU.

Sounds like you upgrade rarely enough that the long-term support AM5 will enjoy may or may not benefit you, depending on if you're good with grabbing Zen 6 once it's last-gen and discounted. If you want a cheap, effective upgrade that'll do you just fine, get Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) or Zen 3. If you live in the US and are near a Micro Center, They're doing some excellent Zen 4 sales that are worth looking at.

Intel will most likely continue to have issues with their graphics drivers. Not a smart option if you ask me.

amd will use HIP, same as CUDA, redshift is already implementing it

You're right, as a video editor, hard to get away from CUDA, makes a huge difference.

This is important. Cuda or optix beats everything else by a large margin. Render times are so much faster. I will not be using nvidia myself anyway, because their linux drivers are ass.

When industry standard software isnt fully supported you know its bad. Amd needs to work on compatability for sure, not just 3d but also older programs in general. My 5800x cant keep up with software from 2013... Its really bad.

This is not like chiplet design of ryzen, where cores are split into ccd. Only the memory controllers are seperate chiplet. Shaders are all in a single core (GCD).

my 6700k and gtx1080tu will hold me until the RTX 5*** or the 8***XT, likely will be buting either an all AMD or INtel system if the Battlemage series shows promise but I htink AMD is looking very very good with Ryzen and these new GPUs

@@hotdogsarepropaganda If you dont have a 4 monitor ur wasting money