If Warrior Cats Villains Were Charged For Their Crimes 2

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4rcane

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Just to be clear, I do not think Mapleshade and Thistleclaw are on the same level of evil. It's just that they are similar in that people try and defend them and their actions, and I need some way that villains in each video are similar to each other so the pairing doesn't seem out of nowhere... Like One-Eye and Breezepelt would be a strange pairing, I think.
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1:27 Thistleclaw
5:50 Mapleshade
11:45 Outro
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@Ravens_Insignia
@Ravens_Insignia 8 ай бұрын
10:52 she also kills spottedleaf in the battle when she attempted to kill sandstorm. not out of self defence, but out of pure jealousy
@kittyyoutuber9
@kittyyoutuber9 7 ай бұрын
But she was already dead, how can she get time added to her sentence if she’s dead?
@zrainyday5266
@zrainyday5266 8 ай бұрын
Honestly Hawkfrost and Ashfur would be interesting to look at. Especially Ashfur. He must have a massive sentence with all the crap he pulled. Additionally, Oakstar isn't a villain by the lens of the books, but he definitely would have some kind of sentence if not for exiling kits, than surely the fact that he attacked (And possibly killed, I can't remember. I think he killed?) kittypets in cold blood once or twice.
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098 7 ай бұрын
In the books it says that he would lead to patrols to the kittypet place
@Pommmyyy
@Pommmyyy Ай бұрын
Ashfur went from "You didn't love me so I'll kill your family" to "you didn't love me so I'll commit omnicide"
@-Radio-Random-
@-Radio-Random- 8 ай бұрын
Wait a minute… WHO IS DEFENDING THISTLECLAW?!?!
@Rainbowpaw_shine
@Rainbowpaw_shine 8 ай бұрын
Snowfur and crazy people /j
@shelbcake
@shelbcake 8 ай бұрын
Those who hate Spottedleaf's Heart /j
@LittleLion420
@LittleLion420 8 ай бұрын
The dark forest
@zrainyday5266
@zrainyday5266 8 ай бұрын
Too many people. Most of the time it's people who haven't read the books or people who haven't read it in a LONG time. And then there are some who really liked him in Bluestar's Prophecy and were upset at how his character turned out, so turned to decanonizing and excusing his actions even outside of SH. Honestly though, people need to go reread BP and Crookedstar's Promise. It's fine to like him, ofc. But people saying he was never a villain is plain silly. Bluefur and Goosefeather literally had visions of him in blood, he was violent and physically abusive to Tigerpaw (And even Whitepaw a couple of times) XD
@Mag3.1415
@Mag3.1415 8 ай бұрын
Tigerstar
@Amethyst_Sky0
@Amethyst_Sky0 8 ай бұрын
10:07 also i think if i were doing this not only would i add 2 degree attempted murder but child abuse and child endangerment
@Amethyst_Sky0
@Amethyst_Sky0 8 ай бұрын
Brokenstar would be awsome maybe brokenstar and clawface? that would be a good pair
@bristleflight303
@bristleflight303 8 ай бұрын
Ashfur and sarktail next please! I love this series!
@jaylamize3540
@jaylamize3540 8 ай бұрын
I second Ashfur and Darktail. Darktail especially, he had caused a lot of deaths in his time.
@mothwingthemedicinecat
@mothwingthemedicinecat 8 ай бұрын
I think one eye or Slash could be with Clear sky, Clear sky may not be considered a villain- but like i said before, he has done many bad things, that a villain WOULD do.
@Gemeuax
@Gemeuax 8 ай бұрын
Could you possibly do Mudclaw and Breezepelt next (both are WindClan cats, and I did read the description)
@Splotches
@Splotches 6 ай бұрын
I agree that MapleShade is guarded from being evil too much, but she was unfairly treated while cats like GreyStripe didn't get punished as harshly
@LittleLion420
@LittleLion420 8 ай бұрын
I would love if you did clear sky and/or one eye
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 8 ай бұрын
Thistleclaw and Mapleshade get life. They deserve the death penalty. They deserve worse than that, lol
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098 7 ай бұрын
Mapleshade no, Thistleclaw yes…. Reason is Spottedleaf’s heart
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 7 ай бұрын
@@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098 Mapleshade is a child abuser and murderer. I think child abuse is just as bad as grooming. Mapleshade and Thistleclaw are guilty of similar things; murder, attempted murder, grooming, and child abuse. So, they deserve the same punishment.
@Timmys1fan
@Timmys1fan 6 ай бұрын
@@_The_Lizard_King mapleshade isn’t a child abuser
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 6 ай бұрын
@@Timmys1fan Did you read any books Mapleshade appears in?? She held Perchpaw hostage, beat him, and used him as bait. That's physical abuse on a child. She technically groomed Crookedstar, Goosefeather, and Tigerstar when they were just kits. That's emotional abuse on multiple children. She also tried to drown Ivypool when she was an apprentice. That's attempted murder on a child. She also sat there and allowed multiple children to be abused. She even encouraged it. And she allowed all the events that happened in Spottedleaf's Heart to happen. So, Mapleshade is not only a child abuser, but she's also a child abuser enabler.
@magesticwafl
@magesticwafl 8 ай бұрын
YES LETS GOOO SHE ACTUALLY INCLUDED THE ADD UP
@emberthearsonist
@emberthearsonist 8 ай бұрын
I bet Darktail would be an interesting one to see
@prcervi
@prcervi 6 ай бұрын
maple's list of crimes has the weird tangent of the fact she only got some things done by shear stupid luck
@mothwingthemedicinecat
@mothwingthemedicinecat 8 ай бұрын
Did Mapleshade want to kill perchpaw? i mean, she kidnapped him so would still be a crime, but i don't think she wanted to kill him- she wanted to use him to lure Appledusk. Still, she commited crimes tho
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 8 ай бұрын
Still, child abuse and near murder. So, attempted murder is a fair charge.
@mothwingthemedicinecat
@mothwingthemedicinecat 8 ай бұрын
@@_The_Lizard_King thats true, not trying to defend her or anything just didn’t think she even thought about killing perchpaw but she probably would have, if she thought he would stop her
@Meowcatkittykat
@Meowcatkittykat 8 ай бұрын
No you're right, She specified she had no interest in killing perchpaw in the book, however she still kidnapped and (i think?) injured him while doing so
@ANG3LIC444
@ANG3LIC444 8 ай бұрын
you should totally do ashfur and hawkfrost i love them
@Nezukoscat
@Nezukoscat 8 ай бұрын
Do Scourge and Darktail or Ashfur and Hawkfrost
@A-Lesbian-Leafeon
@A-Lesbian-Leafeon 8 ай бұрын
One thing I do hate when people do is comparing that they groomed in the same way Mapleshade groomed for revenge and grief (not here to defend her actions pointing something out) Thistleclaw groomed to become mates with cats like spottedleaf Thistle groomed to get younger cats in a relationship ship with him Maple groomed to get revenge on younger cats because they had some relation to what happened to her kits There is a difference and I do like mapleshade as a badass she killer (not saying what she didn’t is fully justified nor right) But I have a huge hate for thistleclaw because short story he is a pedo
@zrainyday5266
@zrainyday5266 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. Both are bad cats but Thistleclaw is a lot worse for what he did to Spottedleaf and their actions are on completely different levels. Mapleshade was cruel and manipulative to Crookedstar, but she never had even a slither of pedophilic intentions towards him.
@A-Lesbian-Leafeon
@A-Lesbian-Leafeon 8 ай бұрын
@@zrainyday5266 exactly Thistleclaw is worse to me because he is fully attracted to younger cats Mapleshade only manipulated younger cats if it was useful to her or her revenge plan
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 8 ай бұрын
Grooming, no matter intent is disgusting. Cry about it. ❤ Both Thistleclaw and Mapleshade are filthy groomers and child abusers. They are equally bad.
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 8 ай бұрын
​@@zrainyday5266They're both filthy child abusing groomers. It doesn't matter intent. I'm pretty sure they both did it to feel powerful. As most abusive groomers do. Stop claiming one is better than the other. Mapleshade groomed *multiple* kits. One, disabled. The other, mentally ill. She's just as bad as Thistleclaw.:)
@GreyFox-uj2ns
@GreyFox-uj2ns 8 ай бұрын
Yes, child grooming is a very bad crime, for me on the same level of murder, as they sometimes happen together.
@NadiaDoesArtThingz
@NadiaDoesArtThingz 8 ай бұрын
Pls do Hawkfrost! Hawkfrost is one of my fav characters in warriors
@shelbcake
@shelbcake 8 ай бұрын
I don't think it's right to charge Mapleshade for the first one. Don't get me wrong, because I love Mapleshade being the evil queen she is, but, technically, she didn't deny who the kits' father was. She chose not to say anything and it was because of Frecklewish that this is believed to be fact. She even thinks about wanting to admit the truth when her kits are older
@abeenacat
@abeenacat 8 ай бұрын
Actually, if you read the book, she let them believe it without denying it ever, and she does cment about birch face being the father once after the scene, so yeah.
@imaginarylivingbody7154
@imaginarylivingbody7154 8 ай бұрын
It’s not even a crime.
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098
@imjustyourlocalcocomilk2098 7 ай бұрын
@@abeenacat To be honest I would’ve let them believe it if they already think one person is the father, Well I’m trying to say is that what the fuck am I trying to say like I can’t say shit.
@beansoup3189
@beansoup3189 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU 4RCANE!!!!
@SnaileyT
@SnaileyT 8 ай бұрын
My favorite cat is Mapleshade soooooooo IM COMING WITH YOU!!!
@thelittlepoppy8970
@thelittlepoppy8970 8 ай бұрын
Thistleclaw was a bad cat however I don't think he should have gone to the dark forest due to cats who are just as bad as him not going to the dark forest cough cough Ashfur cough he definitley deserves punishment but he didn't actually murder anyone whilst he was alive
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 8 ай бұрын
Ashfur didn't groom a kit, lmao. The reason Thistleclaw is in the dark forest is because he's literally a p3do and groomer who attempted murder multiple times.
@thelittlepoppy8970
@thelittlepoppy8970 8 ай бұрын
@@_The_Lizard_King I didn't say he did I said Ashfur attempted murder and helped Hawkfrost take one of Firestar's lives
@YaeMikoH8r
@YaeMikoH8r 7 ай бұрын
Ashfur if you make a pt 3
@tigerwoman4411
@tigerwoman4411 7 ай бұрын
Only stupid people say Thistleclaw and Mapleshade were not bad cats
@Metallizombie
@Metallizombie 5 ай бұрын
Can you Do icicle and flame please if they were charged for their crimes 😅
@carolinasyrup1290
@carolinasyrup1290 8 ай бұрын
YOO WHAT I'M EARLY
@debvandyne3317
@debvandyne3317 8 ай бұрын
YOOOOO LESSS GOOOOO 15 MINS OLD!!!
@imaginarylivingbody7154
@imaginarylivingbody7154 8 ай бұрын
6:18 Contempt of court doesn’t work because it didn’t take place in the warrior cats equivalent of a courtroom. Paternity fraud is also not a crime.
@YaeMikoH8r
@YaeMikoH8r 7 ай бұрын
PEOPLE WHO DEFEND THISTLECLAW EXIST????
@Timmys1fan
@Timmys1fan 6 ай бұрын
Maybe
@Pommmyyy
@Pommmyyy Ай бұрын
Sadly..
@R0sewings_da_dwagon
@R0sewings_da_dwagon 8 ай бұрын
Hi!
@bOraNge_The_Smiley_Orange
@bOraNge_The_Smiley_Orange 8 ай бұрын
wouldnt mapleshade be able to plead insanity, if we're going by real logic?
@imaginarylivingbody7154
@imaginarylivingbody7154 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@tsaralexis9459
@tsaralexis9459 7 ай бұрын
Technically though one of the authors states she isn’t insane just seeing her kits due to her loss and hatred for the people responsible.
@imaginarylivingbody7154
@imaginarylivingbody7154 7 ай бұрын
@@tsaralexis9459 That is most likely enough to take an insanity plea. Also Vicky does not know what she’s talking about she is blatantly portrayed as experiencing some kind of psychosis.
@tsaralexis9459
@tsaralexis9459 7 ай бұрын
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 yeah just sharing something i found
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 6 ай бұрын
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 As someone who suffers from psychosis symptoms, literally stop using psychosis to justify a murderer who abused numerous innocent children, ffs. I'm pretty sure I've said this before, but you're exhibiting what I'd consider blatant ableism. If you're psychosis causes you to kill innocent people and literally abuse children. You're not psychotic. You're an abusive murderer. Stop tying psychosis to murder and child abuse. Mapleshade knew killing was bad, and she seemed to enjoy it. Psychosis doesn't make you an awful person. Being an awful person makes you an awful person. Mapleshade was delusional. But even before the hallucinations, she was a bad person (cat).
@EmmyGacha149
@EmmyGacha149 8 ай бұрын
Second hi!
@kittydrawingz1011
@kittydrawingz1011 8 ай бұрын
I WANTED TO DO THIS BUT I DONT WANT TO COPY T-T
@csoxx
@csoxx 8 ай бұрын
you can! loads of people have done it before and most of it is a matter of opinion
@magesticwafl
@magesticwafl 8 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me the difference between manslaughter and murder?
@shibitheshadowhound
@shibitheshadowhound 8 ай бұрын
manslaughter is murder without intent, one's action accidently leading to one's death. Google is your friend.
@zrainyday5266
@zrainyday5266 8 ай бұрын
Manslaughter is accidental(Eg: Killing someone in a car crash when you weren't paying attention to the roads) and murder is intentional.
@deweyr_fisher
@deweyr_fisher 8 ай бұрын
Manslaughter is also called second-degree homicide (self defense, car crash, etc.) and murder is premeditated, meaning there was at least some intentionality behind it.
@magesticwafl
@magesticwafl 8 ай бұрын
@@deweyr_fisher ok
@mkwbrick5758
@mkwbrick5758 8 ай бұрын
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