Two new adventure bikes are introduced into the market to take on the BMW GS1200, but how will they compare to each other? We ride the Honda Crosstourer and the Triumph Explorer to see which is the better option...
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@roelseinstr511 жыл бұрын
Have ridden the Crosstourer for 17K kms now since september 2012, awesome bike, came from 3 different GSses (1100/1150/1200Adv) but this one kills them all. Excellent bike!
@batman.._4 жыл бұрын
still so?
@pcoffer47905 жыл бұрын
I tested the Explorer and Crosstourer back to back. Honda Wins, better suspension feel , better power delivery, better sound, easier to handle, all round more comfortable for rider and pillion, seating position makes more sense on the Honda.
@martysherman90343 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2017 Honda Crosstour new in 2019 & have had it for 2 years now with 22k on it. Great bike with DCT, feels much lighter than specs say it is . I added 2" risers to the handlebars & a 2" lowering kit to the pegs. Also added a larger w/screen & a givi top box. It performs handles great for this size bike.
@UncleWally38 жыл бұрын
The more "Hummer-cycles" are bought by road riders, the quicker they will be replaced by 30% lighter, quick, agile bikes with knobby tires. To discover dual-purpose / off road riding (or rediscover) is a brilliant thing, and there are brilliant bikes that do the job. For the vast majority of riders, both these monsters inhibit the adventure they're seeking. Here's the test: Take the adventure bike you just bought with your hard earned coin, let it fall over in the dirt, pick it up. If you're still smiling, you've probably bought the right bike.
@ivok98464 жыл бұрын
one uses dirt bikes for that, not tourers
@ruddleduddle33 жыл бұрын
@@ivok9846 My transalp will disagree :p
@ivok98463 жыл бұрын
@@ruddleduddle3 i checked few things out: with 200kg bikes you'll be attempting to lift 100kg weight(easy to check with bicycle), if it's not on incline, if it is, it'll be more, and last time it felt just like 100kg or more, ie 2 men job. and t.alp is about the same weight as my xtz750. so I'm thinking about devising jack screw of sorts to gain some mechanical advantage. portable, kit type, of less than 500g weight. if you're riding alone to the middle of nowhere, that is.
@travisbickle793110 жыл бұрын
honda all the way - if I'm in the middle of nowhere and get a breakdown there's a honda dealer on every corner- and hondas don't break often in the first place. The triumph is a great bike but I wouldn't trust a triumph in the rough stuff unless I had to. Once the honda gets popular there is bound to be a huge aftermarket for it too, which will enable you to turn it into whatever you like.
@srotagadirolf9 жыл бұрын
There's a Triumph Motorcycle dealer in every major city here in Florida (Jax, Orlando, Tampa, Daytona Bch, SoFla, etc...) and also places where you wouldn't think of a Triumph Dealer (Gainesville, Ocala, St. Augustine, Naples, etc...) so parts access wouldn't be an issue.
@holdencaulfied74927 жыл бұрын
Travis, I have a Tiger 1050 and it has been super reliable. You wouldn't trust a Triumph? Then you're a moron.
@men2706 жыл бұрын
Moron? Because u said so? I think you are moron for taking Triumph over Honda. Is that ok? Ride safe!
@dartmoor10096 жыл бұрын
Great review. You could teach MCN in the UK how to test bikes. They don't now nowt !
@Mtbjitsu12 жыл бұрын
Great review guys.
@batboobie11 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your video's!! Professional and entertaining!!
@JFizoust11 жыл бұрын
My wife is getting a Honda CB 700X as soon as we can sell her Shadow ACE 750! I'm excited to drive it, and I'm a CBR 954 guy!
@rosstileyutube12 жыл бұрын
That is the point I was making. It is swivel to steer a motorcycle whilst braking... Watch any racer drag the brakes into corner... It just takes a lot of talent (far more than I have). This is why ABS is helpful to most riders. It won't actually improve your stopping distance but it might mean you don't topple off if the bike is at a slight lean angle :)
@michelod.i.y.52023 жыл бұрын
I know it's a bike review but I really enjoyed the surroundings, where were you? I'm in the UK but go to Zambia regularly the terrain looked similar. Great review by the way.
@ticks201211 жыл бұрын
ABS will always take longer distance to brake on gravel, same with cars. Test it on surfaces with more friction, that's where ABS is developed for.
@BlackDub10002 жыл бұрын
Correct, ABS allows you to steer while braking instead of locking the wheel(s). Takes longer to stop though.
@johnvidamour38383 жыл бұрын
ABS is not for stopping shorter it’s for turning as you brake, you know , to avoid obstacles or people
@jmr757 жыл бұрын
i bought a crosstourer for touring with the wife. The only time it will be off road is when it's going across the grass at a campsite!
@blacktiger955i11 жыл бұрын
Actually, maximum grip is when the wheel on the point of skidding. That's why ABS is designed to keep the wheels turning. If it were as you wrote there would be no point in ABS at all. All ABS does is mimic, very quickly, a technique called "cadence braking". Works much better on tarmac than on dirt though because on dirt a locked wheel builds up a pile of dirt in front of the tyre which helps the bike stop.
@eldionevruzi2 ай бұрын
Nicely explained
@Erikootje7 жыл бұрын
what happened to the right hand guard on the TEX? :)
@thanks4thefish4210 жыл бұрын
Who makes those Tiger upper sliders-nice and small compared to the SW Motech upper crash bars.
@ftby59mikeD3 жыл бұрын
Who makes the upper case saver/engine guard on the Triumph?
@FearlessRabbit11 жыл бұрын
Great video, but even though similar, I believe you are comparing different beasts. Honda vs Super Tenere would be much closer match, or Versys 1000 vs Triumph on the road side.
@driftke7012 жыл бұрын
brilliant review but the oak should research the difference between static and dynamic friction
@ah21038911 жыл бұрын
Heavier in the sense that it's top heavy, compared to the Honda which is a more manageable weight cause the weight is lower down
@Adrian-uq9mq4 жыл бұрын
Matt tries to imply that the Honda crosstourer is far heavier, it is heavier but not that much. triumph explorer 1200 (dry) weight was 259 kg, wet weight 270kg with all fluids. Honda crosstourer publishes there wet weight 277 kg (DCT 287 kg) all fluids ready to ride.
@BillieSebastian10 жыл бұрын
that triumph looks badass
@TheSuperMotoHooligan11 жыл бұрын
I'll take one of each!
@JFizoust11 жыл бұрын
The VStrom is another good option btw! Btw was he driving the 500 or 700??
@Steve-iw1li11 жыл бұрын
Liked your review guys, two great bikes as well. BTW I ride a BMW GS1200 Adventure, won't be changing anytime soon!
@TheFrogsmithf11 жыл бұрын
Well i'm for the Honda crosstourer; gr8package but pricey in Australia, but on the other hand the triumph still has adecent package as well price is better also a little lighter.
@AlexRyteuBart11 жыл бұрын
Good in the city but still far behind XT660Z out there where AA does not get and fuel pomps are not every 20 miles.
@vkeshelya11 жыл бұрын
honda all the way :-)
@tulip2010ful11 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of honda( XL 200, TRANSALP 650 MOD.2002 AND NOW VARADERO XLV 1000 MOD. 2008) but i think the crosstourer is not what i was expecting!
@kloppskalli6 жыл бұрын
haha, the GS sales are still more than tenfold of the big V4 honda + the triple Triumph .. I'd grab a Honda with DCT from the nearest dealer though if it looked a little bit more exiting and if I had the 18grant that it costs over here ;-))
@mcavini111 жыл бұрын
Essa honda é demais!!
@MiguelKooreman76 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm curious what made the triumph stand out from the honda for the rider? I found the CT a little jumpy and stuttery on the throttle at low speeds and low rpms... Is the triumph better in that department?
@jfkdemocrat84655 жыл бұрын
Is the Triumph really an “Asphalt Tiger?” The Bike Show should invite expert riders to do reviews more often when testing non sport bikes.
@FearlessRabbit11 жыл бұрын
2 cylinder, chain driven? I`d like my adventure served with shaft and as few shifting as possible please :)
@lamilumag11 жыл бұрын
I'd like mine rugged, light, capable of offroading but still powerful and with low fuel consumption. And that will be the new KTM. At least it will be what comes closest to that fantasy. :)
@MotorDanko7 жыл бұрын
So, did you drop the bike on the video? and also... why where you using ABS on off road?
@veli-mattiraninen70168 жыл бұрын
Honda is best (I have Honda VFR 1200 X). :)
@PedroGomes110 жыл бұрын
ABS will always take longer distance to brake on gravel, same with cars. Test it on surfaces with more friction, that's where ABS is developed for.dub
@nicholasinsa9 жыл бұрын
One capable biker, the other a presenter. Not really a balanced review
@glenndelrosario11 жыл бұрын
Great objective video!
@Motosadik11 жыл бұрын
If something doesen't breack down ....
@leodagan5663 жыл бұрын
Honda for ever !
@TheHeinrichvr10 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, nice video, where was this video produced? To be honest 300k's on a tank isn't much for a dual purpose. How many buttons to switch off the Honda's ABS, hey Clinton? Come on, ABS not supposed for offroad, is it?
@krhbc1517711 жыл бұрын
Bring the Honda to the United States....PLEASE HONDA!!!! I would pay cash for that tomorrow if it were out. PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE U.S
@ratona007ued7 жыл бұрын
Please do your review of your quarter ton bike loaded with all your camping gear etc, on a muddy or sandy road and then tell us what you think......its just the real world
@V7425 жыл бұрын
"Please use the bike in a particular situation it's not suited for so it looks bad."
@-C.T.-7 жыл бұрын
Guess there were no KTM ADV's available? The 1190R (or even the 1290SA) would eat these two for lunch and still want desert.
@Adrian-uq9mq6 жыл бұрын
The KTM might of been in the garage ttotm? and the BMW was busy having its stanchion recall so the front does not fall off
@BeulahLips11 жыл бұрын
When going off road, the younger guy on the Honda says "It's 30k heavier", then in the conclusion, at 8:30, the older guy says the Triumph "Is heavier". So... which bike is heavier?
@paulmcshea94694 жыл бұрын
The Triumph Exploder
@lamilumag11 жыл бұрын
2013 there is a KTM 1190 Adventure coming to kill them all :)
@beaggyboy9 жыл бұрын
Why duz this Honda CrossTourer's power output drop like a rock,when in fact it shares a similar block to her more cultured sibling,the VFR.While "Horses" dropped dramatically for this (a condition thought justifiable for all off-roaders,as torque-pulling power is more crucial in this category,more so than pure Horses for faster speeds,what's usually synonymous with asphalt Bikes) there's but in this case howevr not a hint of increment to its torque figures.The contrary however is the case & had instead evn dropped a bit.What's the rationale behind this stuff,really,Can someone please care to elucidate a little?
@stevenrees60153 жыл бұрын
Abs only works on road. Offroad you need slide.
@rosstileyutube12 жыл бұрын
ABS is only there to allow you to turn or make adjustments whilst you brake as all it is doing is allowing the wheels to keep turning by reducing braking force. Physically maximum grip is always when the wheel is skidding, on or off road. So there should be no surprise that the Explorer with ABS off stopped quicker.
@mikes22706 жыл бұрын
I would like the Honda if it was 100 lbs. lighter and had cruise control. It weighs 608 lbs wet!
@richardvalitalo36703 жыл бұрын
Africa twin
@klano84432 жыл бұрын
I rode a crosstourer it's a heavy bike off road .
@delirio198711 жыл бұрын
that's the only "offroad" those bikes will ever see......
@rosstileyutube12 жыл бұрын
Swivel was meant to say possible* lol
@southerndeth11 жыл бұрын
Honda make adventure "style" bikes.
@Adrian-uq9mq6 жыл бұрын
Mouthpiece likes triumph. Off-road rider likes Crosstourer who to listen to? Crosstourer looks happy jumping to me.
@chaindrivesumner94709 жыл бұрын
EH TIGER 800 XC ALL THE WAY
@23moment11 жыл бұрын
Triumph Explorer = Sport Honda Crosstourer = Offroad
@johannjacobs67625 жыл бұрын
Triumph looks great , with a shaft drive now , tough choice.
@MrSlipknotsoulfly11 жыл бұрын
ABS
@guymathew15207 жыл бұрын
fair comments. as a Tex owner I wouldn't take it off road but the Cross Tourer must be one of the few bikes in the segment less suited to off road than the Trumpet. Being south east UK-based unfortunately there's not much call for off road. If I lived in southern Spain, SW USA or Australia my bike choices would be different...i.e Tex and and proper MX bike rather than Tex and urban scooter as I currently own ;)
@Erikootje7 жыл бұрын
Honda did market it as a road bike...so
@BomboDommit7 жыл бұрын
Was I hearing the Tiger clackity clack clackin....not cool. Sounds like its about to fall apart every bump.
@johnedwards41763 жыл бұрын
Explorer is the better bike because in every review i see this guy do he puts the honda last ,If the explorer was made by honda he would rip it to bits
@omgwtflmaololrotfl23689 жыл бұрын
HONDA FTW!!!
@5lelik54 жыл бұрын
Motojitsu channel will help you improve your riding skills and emergency breaking 👍✌️🍻
@andrewdugdale7043 Жыл бұрын
Honda is way above the triumph
@krishkrithivasan9597 жыл бұрын
For starters, I own a TEX, and absolutely hate the stock Metz tires. Bad on the road, worse off road. The best bike in the segment I feel is a KTM, then a GS, then the TEX and then the rest of the pack. if you are looking for off road bikes with some on road, cross planet, fix it anywhere riding, get a KLR650 :) All that said, I do love leaving the boxes home, turning trac n abs off and ripping the torque on my TEX, with TKC70s! Peace!!
@JT0000JT11 жыл бұрын
Video quality sucks............content is good!!!
@girish85kumar3 жыл бұрын
Triumph looks bloated : Like "Cringer the Battlecat" from He-man series from 1980s
@denizdogan50877 ай бұрын
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@raimondssteinbergs43166 жыл бұрын
The triumph does not like it, just like a man would have a stomach inserted in a glass jar
11 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was gonna say.. Three words :-) KTM 1190 Adventure
@FEGTTTSDH11 жыл бұрын
Crosstourer : Off road Sport: CB1000R
@tosgem9 жыл бұрын
Lol, you can be biased towards your favourite bike but to say the Honda had better ABS is a joke, on the video it clearly took waayyyy longer to stop compared to the triumph.... and then the young guy turns around and says it's better?
@theninja0015 жыл бұрын
Take that Honda offroad and you’re asking for trouble!
@ChefGuruJeff11 ай бұрын
Honda will always be superior to the Brit bucs.
@holdencaulfied74927 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of people saying, "Honda is the biggest seller of motorcycles in the world, so they're the best." Hey, Toyota is the biggest seller of cars in the world, and they don't make a sports car and they make the most boring cars in the world (Camry, Prius), so don't give me that BS.
@Erikootje7 жыл бұрын
you say boring, wich i wont argue, but at the same time i didnt read you counter the statement that they are best, its hard to counter a fixed track record of historically proven reliability huh :) that said, in a nutshell, honda is the best engine builder in the world ps: are the Prius and camry really the only 2 cars you can come up with from Toyota, really? Toyota dont make the most boring cars in the world, I can name 2 europeans who have a much more shallow boring line up, Peugeot, Citroen. What about Suzuki, Isuzu. I aint even gonna start on Toyotas that make the average family car look like a poor mans car... Not even mentioning the Lexus brand. Ignoranus
@holdencaulfied74927 жыл бұрын
Erikootje, it's fitting you signed your post Ignoranus, I assume you meant to spell Ignoramus.. it's fitting you mispelled that word, it fits you so well. Citroens and Peugeot, while shitty are not nearly as boring as the company that has inflicted upon the world Camrys and Minivans, which make up most of their sales. My point, which you are so stupid you missed, is that just because a company has the most sales doesn't make it the best. I've never heard a car guy say he wants to get the latest Camry or Yaris. Toyota doesn't even make a Sports Car anymore! (and don't say the FRS, that's a Celica remake). Lexus.. are you kidding me?!? Lexus is known for being the most boring of the Luxury segment.. BMW, Merc, Audi, Infiniti.. all making more exciting cars. They tried to make a coupe and it came out bloated and heavy, but it has the Camry engine in it, so I'm sure it will last a long time. Honda is not the best engine builder in the world. Do you watch Formula 1, Ignoramus? They can't catch Mercedes. Yes, their bikes are reliable, although they have problems just like anyone else. Reliability is just one factor of being the "best". Certainly not how many sales they have. You are a moron.
@pramathewyayawar69345 жыл бұрын
From commuter bikes to MotoGP...no one dominates the 2 wheeler industry better than Honda.
@roberturban741110 жыл бұрын
the older guy has more experience and I value that more.
@Erikootje7 жыл бұрын
Lol, so what happened to the right hand guard on the TEX? :)
@TheB00ts11 жыл бұрын
triumph is a good bike so as the honda but if you want a on,off road bike buy the - bmw r1200gs ;)
@janboverhof2462 жыл бұрын
beetje lullig om de Triumph beter te vinden met een jas aan van het zelfde merk........
@brianedwards823310 жыл бұрын
what is forgotten in this test is that the honda like most modern honda's is the ugliest pos on the road
@nodlimax10 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Crosstourer is ugly so are many other Honda bikes, but the NC700S as well as the newer 750S are beauties :)
@orange7038310 жыл бұрын
Offroad joke.
@MagicAyrtonforever11 жыл бұрын
Honda have not made anything nice looking for ten years.. even the transalp was messed up at the front and certain other areas..
@threepot9 жыл бұрын
That young guy is South African,so he's not going to pick British bike.
@phelansa2310 жыл бұрын
Clinton has absolutely no credibility. More Hondas sold so it make Honda a better bike. Seriously? Also, Matt spends all his time telling you why the Triumph is a nice bike, Clint, instead of telling you about what is is good on the Honda. Wastes his time telling you how crap the Triumph is. Pre conceived notion much? Just compare his review to all the others on KZfaq.