I Hate Your Deck #56 Marneus Calgar v Veyran v Nashi v Nekusar || Commander Gameplay MTG EDH

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@alexjodlauk Жыл бұрын

Might be important when you are playing with older cards to check their oracle text! Black Vise did have an updated version for its oracle text. It reads the following "As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player’s upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4."

@thereturnofthewhyboner 7 ай бұрын

Thats rough

@qwag Жыл бұрын

Shout out lynch for keeping the table cool during the game, big ups

@blaze556922 Жыл бұрын

Yeah he was definitely the level head here. Wouldn't have to worry about that if people weren't playing busted ship that tried to pop off on turn 3 though. That just isn't fun for anyone. Why do you think Cassius doesn't get invited on any channels except Joe's now?

@hAxZa100 Жыл бұрын

@@blaze556922 popping off on turn 3 is very fun just gotta be on the same page

@nikhilchhagan7371 Жыл бұрын

@@blaze556922 speak for yourself, i love cedh

@TrueHylianKnight Жыл бұрын

@@blaze556922 To be fair this is Competitive EDH. It's play to win, no holds barred. Just remember, at the end of the day it's just a game.

@darkfallen 11 ай бұрын

Wasn’t Lynch floating 4 colourless from the mana drain and had access to 2 blue on his untapped/upkeep?

@NaviTheMD Жыл бұрын

Lynch: "Its a tokens deck" Translation: "This is an infinite mana deck"

@stefanalexandrov357 Жыл бұрын

And his commander turns the infinite mana into infinite tokens and card draw, so it was not a lie it is a token deck :)

@chickenfinger2920 Жыл бұрын

It was really nice of you guys to invite Eric Weinstein to play with y’all

@philobeddow Жыл бұрын

That gave me a good chuckle.

@jeffkuykendall3189 Жыл бұрын

Who?

@lunarlight3131 Жыл бұрын

lmao

@Turn2Ugin Жыл бұрын

I thought that's who it was in the thumbnail

@halcyon6098 Жыл бұрын

Hahaha.. Dig him on Rogan.

@platyjewasaurus7541 Жыл бұрын

It’s actually not a soft E in Astartes. 9:28. I love warhammer and have tons of the audiobooks. Great game guys lots of fun spells. 🎉

@shawnkenny577 3 ай бұрын

Came to the comment section to say just that 🤣

@pestilence1090 Жыл бұрын

Nobody tell Joe that Black Vise has errata to target an opponent when you cast it.

@sayonarajames5165 Жыл бұрын

I play black vise in a deck (that says target) and so badly wanted the all opponents text to be the correct version! LOL

@eeflos Жыл бұрын

I am building a Nekusar deck, and this video came across my feed. I got all excited because I own a Black Vise! Then I read the rulings and I saves myself having to search my collection for it. 🤣

@chronosorion6911 10 ай бұрын

He said target he just didn’t play it that way!

@drocka36 2 ай бұрын

@@sayonarajames5165 just play iron maiden instead!

@josephchinosi4489 Жыл бұрын

I’m a simple man I see Nekusar I watch

@se7enmurks927 Жыл бұрын

Man this was soo awesome I love the straight off the bat crazy plays it’s a cool change of pace having that said i wish I could’ve seen Toxrill wipe the lands by making all lands swamps and also 1/1 creatures but I enjoyed this regardless!

@williammaykel138 Жыл бұрын

Here we go! It’s like payday every other Friday with this show!

@xboxlivemacmil Жыл бұрын

One of the best episodes, super fun to see both decks pop

@PallaDrak Жыл бұрын

Initial pronunciation of Astartes was correct! Its As-star-tees (they're from the imperium and so its based off old Italian). Great episode!

@thatoneguy5324 Жыл бұрын

so nice of lynch to let the first game last as long as it did! what a generous host

@danielhansson5452 Жыл бұрын

Did they sneak-errata Black Vise or did the whole table confuse if with Mystic Remora? Black Vise says target opponent and the new version even says when it enters the battlefield you should choose an opponent and then the Vise affects only that opponent.

@Belena711 Жыл бұрын

"The Shadow knows." 24:25 Sick reference, Sean. 👍

@charlesreese1546 Жыл бұрын

Great to see 2 of the 4 decks pop off. Although I am sure it was not too fun for the other players.

@Nostalgicdreamer21 Жыл бұрын

Lynch, you are my favorite host for anything edh-command zone got NOTHIN on you

@Big-LoFe Жыл бұрын

Get to work, noti from IHYD 🎉 perfect way to start the day 💪🏼

@teknyte-1 4 ай бұрын

This is what i love, watching esper (the clearly superior color triad) suppressing the entire board and winning before turn 5

@teknyte-1 4 ай бұрын

Esper is even the hero of game 2

@kari5425 Жыл бұрын

Great to see you pop off Lynch haven’t seen you do that in a minute

@rockyriewerts2529 6 ай бұрын

Lynch and his optimism is why I love this channel. 😂

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын

Lesson of the day: Don't let people's commander resolve. Their deck is usually made to take advantage of their commander ;p LOL

@tenacc912 Жыл бұрын

At 7:54 : Black Vise was changed to: choose a player, then the following effect. Black Vise only works on 1 enemy. Iron Maiden at 21:55 is a 3 Mana card that does the same effect for every enemy. Maernus Calgar CedH is wild

@emansfield2017 Жыл бұрын

Crazy the mono black deck had like 4 ways to win that fast. Even was countered by crazy good counters.

@myfikmine1152 Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate joe speaking russian. I am russuan magic player and i like your channel very much

@chriscordero-torres9095 Жыл бұрын

I just want to say how great these games are and how great you guys all are at keeping this fun and relaxed competitive but no one is salty. I just got back into magic after 10 year hiatus and I have binged through this entire series over the last two weeks. Keep up the good work cant wait to finish the series

@Skyfysh Жыл бұрын

I believe Black Vise requires you to choose an opponent as it enters the battlefield, and only that opponent is subject to it’s effect. I just felt it was worth noting because of how impactful it could be to have two Iron Maidens in a deck like Nekusar.

@joshuabraun3093 Жыл бұрын

" My reading voice helps me articulate and sound better" proceeds to pronounce chrome mox chrome max 😂😂 i spit my drink for real lmao And these games were great to watch! Such a fun episode

@ETBREAKZ Жыл бұрын

Love the game play! Just a heads up that black vise was errated to say target one single opponent. Doesn’t cause harm to whole table.

@lodevdb4179 Жыл бұрын

Jeez, 5 minutes in and OG isochron ends it. Cool to see it pop off. I started mtg arround that era it came out. I really hated those decks too 😂

@linfordstinton 9 ай бұрын

What life counter app are you using I love how you can put the commander damage next to your actually damage for quick reference

@Rezzik Жыл бұрын

Scheming symmetry in Nashi is so devious, that's brilliant

@braxtonrenfro9029 3 ай бұрын

Sick games! I love mono black.

@JeffreyAlexopoulos-kt7nh Жыл бұрын

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what kind of dice are they using. The red numerical 6 sides dice with circles? Haven't seen them before.

@danielfrazier5586 Жыл бұрын

FYI - Black Vise has a target that is chosen when the vise ETBs. its not all opponents. If you wanted something that affects all opponents that would be something along Viseling or Iron Maiden.

@nealchavis872 Жыл бұрын

So when black vise enters, you have to choose a player it effects right? So it would only trigger on that players turn right? Not for each opponent...

@TheCharismaed Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great show. I wanted to point out on one small mistake which wouldn't change the result of the game (most likely). There is a big misplay with Black Vise. New versions of the card tells you to choose an opponent as it ETB. Only that player loses life for each card excess of 4 on the upkeep. This doesn't have impact on the first game but in the second game, since Nashi player was paying life for casting stuff, it would matter.

@mpranger4452 Жыл бұрын

Did they change the implementation of black vise in the gatherer? I thought it was a target opponent that you have to chose when it enters the battlefield?

@Kashakunaki Жыл бұрын

I love the attitude and comradery, Lynch. You rock, man.

@michaelmarcuri1506 Жыл бұрын

not sure if you guys caught this, but the black vise only targets one opponent, it doesn't do it to each opponent. Fantastic games to watch though I love this stuff! keep the cedh coming!

@maluinator Жыл бұрын

hey lynch, i did not find a decklist and it did not happen during the matches, but i was asking myself how joe planned to give nekusar infect. like with which card it is possible in these colors? cheers, malu

@HollowScreamV Жыл бұрын

Damn!!! He starts speaking Russian exactly the moment I thought it would be fun to hear this greeting in Russian!

@sovetnik_nav Жыл бұрын

На здоровье! :)

@ANARCHY-nr2lq 4 ай бұрын

I clicked for nekusar, Bummed I didn't get to see it go off But that was still a crazy fun episode

@richardfriley2726 Жыл бұрын

So, hate to bring it up, but didn't see it mentioned, Black Vise now says you choose an opponent. It doesn't affect everyone. Had to find that out when fine tuning my friend's Neku deck earlier this year.

@Stoneager Жыл бұрын

Joe seems like such a nice guy. Great people in this episode. Love IHYD

@crazyreciver21 Жыл бұрын

Really like to see a Kaalia of the Vast deck be played

@Fisker9993 Жыл бұрын

Lynch's wife plays one in one of the first episodes:) look it up

@DarkYuan Жыл бұрын

It's my favorite commander deck I've made! Wish I could play it in Brawl on MTGA, but only the worse Kaalia is on arena so far.

@JonReid01 Жыл бұрын

Paper magic with my friends 🙌

@patrickdbuck 4 ай бұрын

I loved watching this episode. I definitely appreciate that they paused to explain some things to the audience. I started watching because I wanted to see Nekusar do well but it never even got cast! Oh well. The game was fun anyway.

@samtro Жыл бұрын

Black Vise requires you to choose a target opponent. It doesn't affect _all_ opponents like Iron Maiden (which is why it costs only 1 instead of 3) Or was that changed?

@MoxResearcher Жыл бұрын

Mono Black getting some love.

@magictcg Жыл бұрын

Read black vise as "target opponent" but checks each opponent's upkeep for its ability.

@sweatje99 Жыл бұрын

The Nekusar play stated the black vise correctly that it targets an opponent, but then proceeded to play it as if it affected all players. The oracle text is: As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4. Look at Viseling instead

@davenelmes9520 Жыл бұрын

Cool games! Shame that Joe had the rules for Black Vise wrong though. You only affect one chosen opponent with that, not each.

@GOOMBAHx Жыл бұрын

I’m only at the intro but Joe is legit 😅

@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын

Where do you keep finding so many military guys? Can we get a Navy x Air Force x Army game going?

@tbryant2002 Жыл бұрын

Bolas's was the winner there. Can go in any deck and make alot of noise. The bolas's/sensei/aetherflux is it lol. Pretty wild to sacrafice your game just to smite someone that was gonna take you out. Isn't that frowned upon in CeDH? Anyway cool episode

@cameronmcfeely8572 Жыл бұрын

Might be a stupid question but why shock in the steam vents if you’re not gonna use it that turn?

@digitalk1llraymon448 Жыл бұрын

He probably had a counter in hand and needed the mana open to respond.

@DETHofMAN Жыл бұрын

GGs!

@thequesper4418 Жыл бұрын

Not sure if there was a pre-rule group-ruling, but Black Vise doesn't work that way. Upon entering the battlefield an opponent is chosen (not targeted), and only that opponent is affected by the Black Vise.

@Th3Antidote Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, Black Vise was played wrong in both games. The gatherer text has you choose an opponent when the vise comes in, and it only affects that player.

@stephanesavard2073 Жыл бұрын

Oracle text for Black Vice: As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4.

@kehlynjarvis3358 Жыл бұрын

I thought that Black Vise only affected target opponent? Did they change the ruling for commander?

@JasonOshinko Жыл бұрын

Black Vise doesn't affect all opponents. You choose a target as it enters the battlefield and it only checks the number of cards in that player's hand.

@joefuller3886 7 ай бұрын

there is an ober abundance use of spice.. only came for vayran ideas but it would seem i have to yet come up with a brand new way to abuse copying spells ans self curse my self and using ojer axonil to fling x dmg per cast and copy.

@jonathangagnon3319 Жыл бұрын

I have a very similar Nekusar deck and it can really pop off, Unfortunately, it did not shine as much as the other decks here but still very cool games. Also, have to point out that black vise is not the same as iron maiden; it had an errata to affect only one opponent chosen when black vise is played. I doubt it would've really changed the games' outcome.

@edwarddavis7858 Жыл бұрын

Me, a week ago: "hey, I just discovered nekusar, I should make a deck with him!" You guys: "here's a nekusar deck!" GET OUT OF MY WALLS! GET OUT OF MY WALLS! GET OUT OF MY WALLS! GET OUT OF MY WALLS! GET OUT OF MY WALLS! GET OUT OF MY WALLS!

@eeflos Жыл бұрын

Literally me. I found the card yesterday, started building today, and BOOM! Have a video!

@henrihavukainen8206 Жыл бұрын

when black vise enters the battlefield you choose an opponent so it should only targets and hurt one player.

@jomarsantiago978 Жыл бұрын

Lynch acts chill then runs the meanest decks

@alexfulmer350 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know you could play commander with three people. Knowledge is power

@zakiyyomar5650 Жыл бұрын

Did they errata Black Vise to all opponents or does it still choose an opponent when it enters? Seems like a wrong interaction as the turns are passed around the table

@ethanbousfield76 Жыл бұрын

Black vice doesnt work that way, its been changed so you choose an opponent on ETB, but it looks like it didn't really matter in the end lol

@INinja55 2 ай бұрын

That’s cedh baby, my only note is that I would run a thassas oracle for that infinite combo if nothing else to make the game end faster and you can move on to game 2.

@hudaphux Жыл бұрын

When did they change black vise to be all opponents?

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

I have that same mana crypt proxy

@micahtate4131 Жыл бұрын

Impressive especially since it was a 1 lander and it paid off

@tjzx3432 Жыл бұрын

Never punished

@chaoscultist5679 Жыл бұрын

the "e" at the end of Astartes in Warhammer isn't soft, the way Lynch said it originally is correct

@joelsaager Жыл бұрын

correct me if i am worng but doesnt black vise target only one opponent?

@djlosch Жыл бұрын

Judge! Black vise was incorrectly done the whole time here. It only affects 1 chosen opponent (not targeted). It doesn't affect all opponents.

@richsrk8587 Жыл бұрын

I think that black Vice makes you choose one opponent only?

@janjoedicke2507 Жыл бұрын

Wasnt black vise eratat to say target Player like the rack?

@dvdalbert91 Жыл бұрын

Game 1 fun and interactive :/ Game 2 monoblack rulez!!

@erikmadnezz3643 Жыл бұрын

Black Vise Oracletext: As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4.

@rjgraves3041 Жыл бұрын

Black Vice has you pick an opponent, does work on everyone.

@HexManiac2 Жыл бұрын

Isn't Black Vise a single target card? Or was it errataed to be everyone?

@flareonVSjolteon Жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t Black Vise only affect one target player?

@Infected_Truths Жыл бұрын

Lmfao that Russian intro was great lol

@gebe5490 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately Black Vise requires that you pick a specific opponent for it to affect! Iron Maiden works the way you want it to, though :)

@cjm8836 Жыл бұрын

Feels like Lynch should've went full send on the first game down into labman/thoracle 😋

@xXViverraXx Жыл бұрын

black vise was played wrong oracle text: As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4.

@karndrogo 6 ай бұрын

I like how the entire comment section was about the black vise lol. Woulda loved to see the Nekusar pop off ngl

@therealax6 Жыл бұрын

Just so you know, Black Vise has you choose one opponent, and it only affects that opponent. (Read the Oracle text!) That's why it costs {1} while Iron Maiden costs {3}. Not that it would've made any difference here... (By the way, people at a CEDH table would definitely be mad at you for casting a Pact of Negation you'll certainly lose to, but hey, this is ultimately more of a casual table and it was a fun move!) EDIT: btw, someone tell Sean that it was a nice attempt at an intro in Spanish! A couple of minor grammar mistakes and clearly a non-native, but it was completely understandable. (Source: I'm a native speaker.)

@aurorasophiavoicu4273 Жыл бұрын

Black vise was misplayed the first game. The rules read: As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4. Only 1 opponent can get pinged for cards excess of 4.

@olev6005 Жыл бұрын

i think you miss play black vise it only trigger on the target player you pick as it enters

@ThisIsACommanderChannel Жыл бұрын

One thing about the Black Vise, when it enters the BF you actually choose one opponent and that Vise only affects that one player, not each of your opponents.