Why We Hate Phoenix

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3 ай бұрын

#umvc3 #xmen #phoenix
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ft. ‪@Thatsthemixup‬ and ‪@Lythero‬ !
The "Why We Hate" series returns with our next contestant, Marvel's own DARK PHOENIX.
Phoenix was so broken in the first iteration of Marvel Vs Capcom vanilla and they STILL managed to make her even more broken in Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3! Let's explore why.
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@Lythero 2 ай бұрын

PHOENIX (derogatory)

@olah547 2 ай бұрын

But don't you use phoenix wright?

@kingdmhts 2 ай бұрын

The new discriminatory term for jean gray players lmao

@penismightier9278 2 ай бұрын

The two best reasons to do anything are spite and personal amusement.

@FishTacoGuy1 2 ай бұрын

Oh hi Mr funny man

@greentoonlink 2 ай бұрын

@@olah547 Wright is "PHOENIX (affectionate)"

@ZKtheMAN 2 ай бұрын

Not even Phoenix was willing to defend Phoenix...

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

just saying

@MSCDonkeyKong 2 ай бұрын

That's cause Phoenix is guilty as FUCK

@FailureOfAName 2 ай бұрын

Could you blame the dude? In between getting whipped, tossed coffee on his face, having his hair cut, beads constricting his face that he would like to add getting burnt to crisp to the list of the shit he has to deal with?

@AliveAnt 2 ай бұрын

@@FailureOfAName Pheonix fell from a bridge and got a cold, then got hit by a car and sprained his ankle (i think). I would not be surprised if he shrugged off Dark Pheonix

@FailureOfAName 2 ай бұрын

@@AliveAnt those are in the realms of human error, what dark pheonix isn't is human... not entirely anyway. So excuse Pheonix if he started running the absolute fuck away from dying to a mad god-like entity

@ItsAZues 2 ай бұрын

Mr. Wright is the good Phoenix everyone enjoys. Jean Gray is the bad Phoenix everyone has a hate boner for. Know the difference.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

faccts

@reversereversal 2 ай бұрын

For every Dark Phoenix, there is always a Wright to restore balance to Mahvel.

@jeffrey_solis90 2 ай бұрын

I just picture the "HR meme" where Phoenix Wright is the good guy that you don't call HR on, but Phoenix is the fucked up guy that you speed dial HR as soon as they show up.

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

Turnabout Mode: "Cool, Fun, Funny" Dark Phoenix Mode: "Cringe, Lame, Unfunny"

@Leafy46 2 ай бұрын

Mr. Wright is the Phoenix Right while Jean Gray is the Phoenix Wrong.

@Nasgatemk2 2 ай бұрын

A character so strong she creates origin stories for IRL people is CRAZY

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

she's a villain!

@pockystyx4087 2 ай бұрын

Capitalist Phoenix: my extra life Socialist Soul Stone: *OUR* extra life

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

lmao

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

You know, maybe MvC:I isn't _all_ bad.

@KurosakiNaturo 2 ай бұрын

@@glacierwolf2155 this makes me think its even worse.

@centuronstar8688 2 ай бұрын

Just like Vergil in UMvC3, Capcom really wanted to make Phoenix Lore Accurate as hell.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

i hate it

@nox_cadit 2 ай бұрын

And that's why I love both

@adrianherrera4238 22 күн бұрын

I was hoping there would be a comment like this! 😂😂😂😂

@LuchaLLibro 2 ай бұрын

Lythero joking about suffering a Canon Event in the Beast Gohan video, but then *actually relates his on-god fucking Canon Event* at the end of his first fighting game tournament.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

it's crazy how things work out like that

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

I think that the Super Combo wiki's opener on the Dark Phoenix Rises section succinctly describes our collective reaction to this character. "Oh no."

@ZKtheMAN 2 ай бұрын

I had to look that up, holy shit they really did write that

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

i didn't know that LOL

@gamerkingmayathe064th5 2 ай бұрын

I love fighting game wikis, the comments on moves are super funny

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

@@gamerkingmayathe064th5 One of UMvC3 Morrigan's pros: "I Want to Cry"

@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz 2 ай бұрын

If you think that's funny go look at X-23's Silent Kill and Thor's Mighty Speech

@bazzjedimaster 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that unlike Vergil, none of the guys are willing to play Devil's advocate for Phoenix.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

she stinky

@exaltedfalcheon1793 2 ай бұрын

If Akuma is a Glass cannon, then Dark Phoenix is a Staw Nuke.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

haha

@Derpderp389 2 ай бұрын

Me seeing the dragonball wish menu, " But Power though." 🤣

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

hahaha

@MSCDonkeyKong 2 ай бұрын

When Phoenix uses Dragon Balls vs. when Vergil uses Dragon Balls:

@shadowsnake5133 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice wait, so is Phoenix cheating because she's using the dragon balls to wish for immortality?

@RudyG.Numpad 2 ай бұрын

The Vergil circle strafing Pheonix had me dying of laughter

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

it was such a funny ass edit haha

@gilgafresh923 2 ай бұрын

This is what happens whenever you tie into the Summers family, Cyclops was solid in almost every game he was in, Cable was Solid in MvC2 and Jean having both Married Scott and a Clone that had Cable. Of course she'd be a nightmare to deal with.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

the entire bloodline being privileged is CRAZY haha

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

Cyclops is one lucky mf'er

@dennisbeaman958 2 ай бұрын

@@glacierwolf2155 yet he constantly cheats on her in the comics so he's super lucky considering he constantly gets her back even through all his cheating

@psicopato2460 Ай бұрын

@@dennisbeaman958 I feel like half the time it isn't his fault, it is the fault of the writers who don't know what to do with the character, or are too afraid to explore deeper themes through him, so they just throw in some family drama to try making things interesting, as if this was some bad mexican TV show

@olah547 2 ай бұрын

Dang dark phoenix is the reason why lythero become a god tier phoenix wright player

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

so true!

@olah547 11 күн бұрын

@@IHeartJustice only the real lythero would know

@rokechikan4481 2 ай бұрын

Moral of the story: Spite is the most powerful motivator and without it, you wouldn’t have met your best friends.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

correct

@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487 2 ай бұрын

For a moment, I thought you said Sprite and my mind went to the bit in RussainBadger's World of Warships video with all the Sprite cans.

@MTdaBlacking 2 ай бұрын

"I NEED MORE SPITE!" -Lythero wielding the Yamato in X-Factor LVL 3

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

haha

@guga5708156 2 ай бұрын

"Why I hate" should be a series

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

you're onto something!

@EvOLvEDT3RROR 2 ай бұрын

Well in defense of Phoenix players, they have to go to tournaments knowing that their actual life is on the line, surrounded by murderous intent.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

"A small price to pay" - Thanos

@Robomori 2 ай бұрын

When it comes to deciding which Phoenix to play in this game, there is only one Wright choice.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

talk to em

@waffles_ns 2 ай бұрын

spite. controls. everything. was such a raw reference LMAO

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

hahah we HAD to!

@emberthefox4951 2 ай бұрын

The Dark Phoenix looking at my Phoenix Wright with 3 pieces of good evidence and a dream:

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

god, the pain

@thenerd-bot9847 2 ай бұрын

There's an easy way to differentiate the two Phoenixes in MVC. Ya got the terrifying Dark Phoenix and the lovable Dork Phoenix.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

DORK

@FluuuffInari 2 ай бұрын

That man dunking on Lythero post-tournament was the FGC equivalent of Nintendo ditching Sony for the CD-I. History was made that day, and only a select few at the time knew.

@gamevoice102 2 ай бұрын

On Gary's recommendation, Zero needs to be up next here.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

I feel that

@MegaManXPoweredUp 2 ай бұрын

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Zero. And before you accuse me, no, I'm not biased.

@B3Rand0m 2 ай бұрын

@@MegaManXPoweredUp Name checks out

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

Let's be honest here. The whole video would be a roast on Sogenmu.

@B3Rand0m 2 ай бұрын

@@glacierwolf2155 or the fact that he's arguably the best character in every fighting game that he has been in.

@SuperErinMan 2 ай бұрын

ALSO EXCUSE YOU THAT SICKASS BATTLE NETWORK SHIRT

@MegaManXPoweredUp 2 ай бұрын

Cultured.

@wills2894 2 ай бұрын

BATTLE NETWORK MENTIONED!!!

@teaboy0996 2 ай бұрын

CMON CAPCOM WE NEED SOMETHING PLEEAAAASSEEEE😭😭😭

@waterbottler2761 2 ай бұрын

@@teaboy0996 If you're absolutely desperate for something remotely similar, give one step from eden or duelists of Eden a try

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

TYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

@DIOBrando-ij2bp 2 ай бұрын

The only mistake Capcom made with Phoenix is they didn’t give Akuma a Level 5 Shin Akuma mode just like Dark Phoenix where Akuma gets back up and challenge you with his full power. There should’ve been two characters in the game, one on each side, that had that type of Level 5 move.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

that would've been neat

@jojokuma 2 ай бұрын

I would really like to see the Shenanigoons analyze more broken characters in various games! Great video Javi! ♥

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

right?? thank you so much!!

@SageRuffin 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice You guys should collab with LordKnight.

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

I would love an episode on Kid Buu or S2 GT Goku.

@DNOplz 2 ай бұрын

haggar needs buffs i agree

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

this dude gets it

@shadow98004 2 ай бұрын

What's that? Give him a pipe that goes full screen? SURE THING!

@sootyquill 2 ай бұрын

TRUE

@rundyftw 2 ай бұрын

Give haggar an air dash

@manicbeyond 2 ай бұрын

He needs an air dash, another jump, he needs to be faster, have more health, do more damage, an insta-kill-

@chefvideogame 2 ай бұрын

Learned a lesson today: the spite buff is extremely powerful.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

absolutely

@penismightier9278 2 ай бұрын

Like I said elsewhere: There's two reasons to do anything: Spite and personal amusement.

@SageRuffin 2 ай бұрын

9:10 Lee saying that and Gary cosigning with the Sanford Kelly line reminds me of this one time (Evo?) where Filipino Champ, probably the most infamous UMvC3 player for a variety of reasons, picks Dark Phoenix, the crowd _loudly_ boos, then F.Champ just grins, and does the "Yeah, that's right. Give it to me!" motion with his arms as his opponent is finalizing his team. Also, 11:04 with Gary saying that it's game over if you fuck-up your Anti-Phoenix Tech(TM), I really felt that one. I play Spider-Man. He was one of the few characters that had Anti-Phoenix Tech(TM) in _Vanilla_ MvC3 (X-Factor > Ultimate Web Throw for the curious). I actually had a chance to put my new knowledge to the test, right? Landed an Air Combo, Phoenix pops, _I mistime the X-Factor,_ Phoenix then proceeds to sodomize me with a sadistic smile on her face. I'm still haunted by that. I'm not a good player by any means, but still, it would've been one my greatest victories.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

thank you for sharing that story fam!

@SageRuffin 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice Yaaay, recognition! I'm gonna dedicate my next trip to ROSS to the House of Justice. ❤️🤍💙

@djallthat2994 2 ай бұрын

WE'LL GET TO ZERO NEXT. right?

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

RIGHT?

@DianaProudmoore 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice Nah, he's #1 so he's last~

@doctorchurch7131 2 ай бұрын

Phoenix players are the type of people who put the milk before the cereal.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

Lolool

@BrendonStMarie 2 ай бұрын

I’d say they eat the whole bowl of dry cereal, and then drink the glass of milk XD

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

Naw, they're the type that lights your cereal on fire.

@X_Blake 2 ай бұрын

It's meeeeee

@Creepo_J 2 ай бұрын

They eat right out the cereal box and down the carton

@ElywinCarrinithshinyhunting 2 ай бұрын

The moment you get happy birthday'd by dark phoenix, you just go back to menu immediately.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

FACTS

@loltwest9423 2 ай бұрын

Wait! You mean to tell me that a character named "Phoenix," named after the fire bird that REVIVES ON DEATH, has a gimmick where if she dies with max bars she revives? No way! I could have never seen that coming!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

FACTSSSSSSSSSSS

@mauricesteel4995 27 күн бұрын

I mean, she doesn't just revive, she become one of those Mugen Edited characters.

@Lorixo343 2 ай бұрын

Love that Vergil is in the tags. You can never escape him.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

never

@joesalman6892 2 ай бұрын

Bro shenanigoonz "why we hate (character)" is peak

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

blessss

@drhives9052 2 ай бұрын

Why we hate morrigan Why we hate Zero Why we love Doom Why we love Phoenix Wright Why we love Dante

@glacierwolf2155 2 ай бұрын

For as evil as Doom is, he is _the_ homie of this game.

@BlackOctoberFox 2 ай бұрын

"Why we hate Haggar," but instead of a thoughtful discussion, it's just 10 minutes of DNO looping with bass boosted pipe sfx

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

wait he's cooking

@ryanrcosta 2 ай бұрын

I play Phoenix (Wright) You play Phoenix (wrong) We are not the same

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

talk to em

@DianaProudmoore 2 ай бұрын

Problem: Dark Phoenix~ Solution: Vergil~

@Crimsongun25 2 ай бұрын

New Problem: Vergil~ Solution: Vergil~........wait a minute....

@megax-lf3bn 2 ай бұрын

Solition doom morgan vergil or all phoenix and vergil

@Kilesfactor 2 ай бұрын

I hate Phoenix because she retroactively made me think that her treatment in the original X-Men show was justified.

@CornBreadtm1 2 ай бұрын

She'd be way more balanced if she passed out after every combo till she hit Dark Phoenix tbf.

@Kilesfactor 2 ай бұрын

@@CornBreadtm1 she just fucking self-crumples after every button

@grandarkfang_1482 2 ай бұрын

@@CornBreadtm1 I feel like that would give her the Slaking effect, where she would be effectively useless without the right set-up.

@neatoburrito9013 2 ай бұрын

I feel like the Chinese exchange student in class listening to people yap about a game I don’t play but I’m taking notes babyyyyy

@ClericOfPholtus 2 ай бұрын

Ditto, I just casually play Smash or Soul Cal but I love hearing these lads talk about this stuff

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

Kind words both of you!

@neatoburrito9013 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice 😮 the boy!

@Leon-wz5qh 2 ай бұрын

We can excuse Vergil players, cuz Dmc is cool asf we are all deep down motivated to play him sometime, but Dark Phoenix has no motivation to be that evil

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

DAMN

@moonchildlive9971 2 ай бұрын

The things I would pay to see for the ending of the spite story would be after that world-tour montage would be running up against that Phoenix player and saying, "I *won't* be seeing you at the Smash Brothers Tournament," just to send that player into an anime flashback of his own demise.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

FACTS

@SegaSatchel 2 ай бұрын

Always love how accessible these videos are, as someone who's fighting game knowledge is surface level. The jargon is easily explained, it's not overwhelming, and it's fascinating to learn Also, I now see Pheonix players as those that use a blue deck from magic the gathering Gets KO'd: "Counterspell"

@aganaom1712 2 ай бұрын

we can't control her

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

sure can't

@Ocalvolamina 2 ай бұрын

I'm dying Javi using a Megaman Battle Network shirt... I can't believe people still remeber this series!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

it's such a dope one though!

@Ocalvolamina 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice it is, but some people just... Forget about it? Also great vid as always

@tuff_lover 2 ай бұрын

Because it was on GBA of all things, I feel you.

@l1ghtd3m0n3 2 ай бұрын

It’s funny as hell that Phoenix’s one major weakness is another Phoenix (of the Wright variety). Second healthbar don’t matter when you have a turnabout in your back pocket

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

if only LOL

@yourdagan 2 ай бұрын

It's funny because both you and Lythero got trash-talked by Phoenix players only to get your revenge later.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

what a world

@masonjackson565 2 ай бұрын

It’s the phoenix path man. What a menace

@iqd2072 2 ай бұрын

"Thats an amazing argument." *Thumbnail of the video* "-However."

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

YUP

@victoroliveira3577 2 ай бұрын

She'd just kill you (Ciclops a lucky bitch)

@ReikuYin 2 ай бұрын

Honestly that last bit was jinda wholesome. We met on a combined hatred of a single character. And now look at ya. I can't wait for Zero tbo. I don't think he EVER been bad in a game he's shown up in...

@YabukiShingo4 3 ай бұрын

HAHAHA!! "Anti-Phoenix Tech" is so funny. My team has none! I also have a secret reason and it is so funny: I used to have to specify that I play "Wright" to avoid confusion so I started calling her "Jean Grey".

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

This is such a relatable PW main comment lol

@Creepo_J 2 ай бұрын

X-Factor stands for Phoenix-Factor

@supersaiyantayt 2 ай бұрын

she has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad match up to my team................

@brendanhughes5679 2 ай бұрын

I think the thing that I hate about her the most isn't entirely her fault, but with the advancement of TAC infinites in the meta, the entire risk/reward factor with her is gone. With her on anchor, you used to have to carefully consider if you wanted to cash out with the meter you have to ensure a kill, or save that meter in case you start getting bodied so you can pop Dark Phoenix. Now that line of thinking is completely gone because you can just do a TAC infinite with any of the most popular Phoenix teams to ensure a kill without spending the meter. TAC infinites overtaking the meta turned the smallest redeeming and interesting factor of her install into something players don't even consider anymore.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

you are correct

@MasterChef1957 2 ай бұрын

13:36 "THEN SOMETHING JUST SNAPPED, SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME!!!"

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

AHHHHHHHHH

@kingsman5121 2 ай бұрын

F Champ Punching Air in the background this entire video lmao

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

lololo

@Point5_ 2 ай бұрын

as someone that doesn't follow MVC3 too closely (still interested, just not that into it), I didn't even know regular phoenix is also busted because everyone just talks about dark phoenix

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

she's also SUPERRR good is what people forget

@dennisbeaman958 2 ай бұрын

Well even in actual lore both are literally broken dark Phoenix actually wiped out all reality in a what if comic that wolverine place was swapped with Conan and accidentally caused her to go kill all reality route and wolverine was stuck back in Conan time and got happily married to a red head the Phoenix force literally can warp reality

@Aflay1 2 ай бұрын

"Why do all these players keep fighting Dark Phoenix at a distance, just get closer to her right when she transforms" *My brother in Christ, she has burst.* "What is burst? Why am I halfway across the screen, WHY DOES SHE HAVE LAND MINES?? THE ENTIRE SCREEN IS A HURTBOX"

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

I HATE IT

@merrychristmasreaper 2 ай бұрын

Y'know high key, I could listen to you goblins describing anything inf ighting games for ages.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

that's kind words fam!

@merrychristmasreaper 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice Just honest yall are a treat! Keep rocking with it

@TheRPGeeks 2 ай бұрын

Dude out here with the Battle Network drip.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

based comment

@advisingassable 2 ай бұрын

Phoenix is a menace, why dark phonix isnt a form super instead of the automatic resurection in the game i will never know. Great topic fellaz, Looking forward to your inevitable 8-ing Hunter x Hunter game coverage. ( Lets hope they dont straight up copypaste phoenix onto Biscuit or something )

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

thanks for the support!

@TheEverythingEnthuiast 20 күн бұрын

Lythero being motivated by spite is so real

@IHeartJustice 18 күн бұрын

damn straight

@RainbowCatGX 2 ай бұрын

Extra/shin reason to hate Phoenix: She killed Sonic’s dad in X-Men 3.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

NANI??

@nana-rt6zt 2 ай бұрын

love it when you make these videos, they're cozy as hell

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

that's a huge compliment thank you

@Shiny_Pine 2 ай бұрын

"but testament in xx can combo off of burst" ok but zappa can literally randomly wakeup with a summon that just hits you when you're doing your oki ggxx is not a fair game

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

I can only imagine

@dariogonzalez8989 2 ай бұрын

8:30 "If you hit Phoenix while _her_ projectile's on, it still stays on screen." Oh god, it's just like KOF XI's final boss.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

it's literally so toxic

@Impalingthorn 29 күн бұрын

That story about the Phoenix player at that tournament telling our boy "Good luck at the Smash tournament" awoke actual violent rage in me. Hearing that he actually traveled the world just to destroy that one player is pretty cathartic.

@IHeartJustice 29 күн бұрын

it's a beautiful tale

@kerbonaut2059 2 ай бұрын

Lmao I JUST watched Why We Hate Vergil and THIS shows up.

@ClericOfPholtus 2 ай бұрын

So good

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

we love to see it

@Tekineticc 2 ай бұрын

The fact this video is longer than vergils is saying something

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

correct

@Thatsthemixup 2 ай бұрын

F I R E V I D E O G A N G

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

TY BASED ZYZX

@eu4io602 2 ай бұрын

I have no idea how I got to this video, I don't even play fighting games, but damn this video was fun, great work! Love the format!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

that's so amazing to hear fam!

@BlueyedFireDragon101 Ай бұрын

Phoenix scares my sleep pyralisis demons away so she can take its place.

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

Lmao

@KingValkryie06 2 ай бұрын

You know what’s crazy all phoenix has to do is literally explode and she’s the most powerful unit that can counter even VERGIL

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

it's INSANE

@KingValkryie06 2 ай бұрын

Nah Vergil is more accurate Phoenix is Gamer accurate

@TheMasterfulEmerld Ай бұрын

I don’t know about you but she’s the original Broly. Bless Claremont in all his glory man

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

FACTSSS

@StoryTeller796 Ай бұрын

The StoryTeller, who is a dreamghost: Not even I would come back after I get beaten in a fight. I like to think I take my losses with Dignity and Grace. Every other character: Honestly, it is a miracle how much you take your losses with Dignity and Grace. Every Single SCP: Ex-****ing-cuse me?

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

hahah

@Galuldan 2 ай бұрын

If you do a "Why we hate zero". My reason is the amount of time I have spent in-matches learning Zero just to learn 1 of if not the hardest character in UMVC3 that is my reason. I decided to learn not just him but Dante and Virgil (ZMC!) out of sheer spite against my friend just to finally get a win on him in this game. Don't get me wrong he is a great character, but OMG the amount of time I've put into just him, i felt i could have learned 3-5 more teams then just him. Great video I love your content keep it up!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

he's a whole ass commitment but SO much payoff

@15redcrow 2 ай бұрын

I love watching you guys play MvC3 as someone who's only experience with hyper fighting games is Fighterz, So I greatly appreciate these videos explain how and why these characters are so feared in the FCG and the extensive history that surrounds them. Ya'll are the teachers, and I'm the one mf who's asking if there's any opportunity for extra credit. Great Video!!!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

what a class response ty!

@SvenHolgersson 2 ай бұрын

Characters like Dark Phoenix make me glad I missed out on vanilla MvC3

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

she was apparently worse in that game lol

@Loro400 15 күн бұрын

I can't believe that Javi's out here talking about the Dragon Balls, and somehow resisted the urge to do the 'But ultimate power though...' bit.

@IHeartJustice 15 күн бұрын

hahahah

@MilanoCollectionAK 2 ай бұрын

Shoutout for use of the Great Ace Attorney soundtrack!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

my editor @heefnoff is a beast!

@Pierre_boat_enjoyer Ай бұрын

I got really confused because I mostly watch comic videos on KZfaq so I thought you meant “why we hate pheonix” as in the character and I was like “no we don’t?”

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

hahah glad you could find your way here!

@dudubungles9679 2 ай бұрын

Ty for making the title WE and not just I.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

we're all in this together

@PapaLobster 2 ай бұрын

The editing on this is phenomenal I love it! Viscant is the only Phoenix player that gets a pass

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACTS

@jman2050 Ай бұрын

I do appreciate on some level just how completely and utterly above the curve Dark Phoenix is. Like, take a step back, have we EVER seen a playable character like this in a modern fighting game? That wasn’t some secret boss character you had to input a code or something to access? Just consider that when we talk about anti-Phoenix tech, we’re not talking about how to maneuver around in neutral (you can’t), how to respond to her pressure (mash out your invincible reversal and pray) or what to do on incoming (lmfao), it’s all 100% centered on “how do we stop DP from cleanly entering the game at all?”

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

it's quite the insane character they built and I can't even compare to anyone but a dark souls boss LOL

@dalampslayer 2 ай бұрын

"Phoenix" Unbalanced mess? Yes.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

so true bestie

@dalampslayer 2 ай бұрын

@@IHeartJustice Even Wright wouldn't touch a defense case on her behalf.

@kurgtv5725 2 ай бұрын

The not teching side TAC is the perfect reason to hate Phoenix. Phoenix players lose to the dumbest shit all the time because they build so many awful habits. She is deceptively the worst character to pick up in the entire game despite being undeniably top tier.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

this dude gets it

@TehGoodcat Ай бұрын

Reason number 8. Lythero had his live action Bison moment. The most important day of Lythero's life but for the Pheonix it was just another Tuesday.

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

very true

@CHRIS-X 2 ай бұрын

“See you at the smash tournament” IS SO FOUL DOG

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

criminal

@giacomociogli7631 2 ай бұрын

Ew, Dark Phoenix. Also, that Megaman Battle Network shirt is C L E A N, i love it

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

one of my favs!

@SuperErinMan 2 ай бұрын

We hate Phoenix because he keeps presenting his badge instead of actual evidence Oh you meant-

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

hah

@Price_Drawz5k 2 ай бұрын

I like to hear more character analysis but I’d also like to hear individual videos about the three shenanigoons individually and their careers and how you met. It’s just very interesting and maybe taking about your overall team building process as well.

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the feedback!

@waffleLooks 2 ай бұрын

Loving this series! After seeing this one I checked out the one you did on Vergil. Hope to see more like this! (Zero please)

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

awesome!

@belmontzar Ай бұрын

Vergil and Dark Phoenix : Lore accurate domination masters Ammaterasu, a Sun Goddess with legendary weapons and the power of the heavens : dominated by a space Raccoon and anyone with a gun.

@IHeartJustice Ай бұрын

this game is so sick

@R3mil_ 2 ай бұрын

I'd love to hear about Zero

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

might wanna subscribe and not go far =)

@kota5255 2 ай бұрын

First video im seeing on your content outside of fighterz and damnn i love this vibe of video!

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

LET'S GOOOO

@Useedat0 2 ай бұрын

5:07 - 5:13 Thor: "why is it still raining😤? I did what I was suppose to. That's not fair 😥."

@clarkside4493 2 ай бұрын

Oh, I thought we were talking about how we hate Phoenix as a comic character... Like, maybe I'm stupid, but I never really get Phoenix. Like, is Jean Gray just possessed or is she just under the influence of the Phoenix? And if she's as volatile as we're lead to believe, why aren't more continents leveled and villainous allies popped like balloons?

@IHeartJustice 2 ай бұрын

she sure popped tournament competitors like balloons