Breda Ba.88 Lince: A Record Setting Failure

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Breda Ba.88 Lince: A Record Setting Failure

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In this video, we talk about the Breda Ba.88 Lince, an Italian multirole plane from the mid 1930's. We discuss why the plane was made, how it managed to break records early in its career, and how it then managed to be one of the biggest failed planes of WW2

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@itwas50yearsagotoday Жыл бұрын

I agree with you that the Italians get unfairly denigrated as incompetent/unmartial in WWII discussions. The country was the weakest economically and industrially, and this was partially responsible for some of the issues with outdated/inadequate equipment. But it is almost universally ignored that Italy's involvement in the war was preceded by massive overseas military commitments, some of the largest-scale campaigns to be conducted by a European power in the interwar years; the 1934 invasion of Ethiopia, in which localized resistance was still active when it was followed in 1936 by the heavy commitment of troops, aircraft and ships/subs to the fascist side of the Spanish civil war. ww2 in europe begins barely 6 months after the end of the SCW, and tens of thousands of Italian soldiers with large armor and aircraft contingents, by far the largest of any of the intervening powers, had fought dozens of bloody battles against the Republicans, who were supplied with large numbers of then-current Soviet aircraft and armor. I think this is one reason why some of their stuff is so outdated in 1940, it was put into production to supply the Ethiopian campaign and these early/mid-30s designs were kept in production to supply the ongoing conflicts, being upgraded rather than replaced. Long story short, her army in 1940 was recovering from a series of expeditionary campaigns that had been kept up with some intensity for the better part of the preceding 6 years, and in which most of its substance was left to garrison and control the new Ethiopian provinces or more likely left wrecked on a Spanish battlefield or in Franco's hands. This context is critical in properly evaluating Italy's role in the much larger conflict that followed. They should have ditched the tankettes though, that one's on them.

@kieranbest4313 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, but without the tankettes we wouldn't have some of the cutest tanks of the war

@Balrog2005 Жыл бұрын

Italian troops in Spain, technicaly a corps of volunteers (thats was BS) was never in Franco's hands, they had they own command, make a lot of fuss about it and even started to make their own plans because they were the ''modern army'' until they got trashed by Republican forces in the battle of Guadalajara in 1937, a big setback for the Italian fascist propaganda and a delight for everybody even for their local allies, worn out by the arrogance of Italian officers. After that they were much more cooperative and did quite well even some times, but again never directly under Franco's orders.

@giudicedredd9195 7 ай бұрын

@@Balrog2005Where did you read this? On Mickey Mouse? You’ve proven you know the propaganda and not the history. Don’t talk about Italy because you don’t have the competence. Now delete your comment and go to study history

@giudicedredd9195 7 ай бұрын

But if Italy has built some of the best planes of World War II. Italy’s only problem was lack of resources. Without Italy Germany could not resist until 1941. Since the victories during the Africa campaign were obtained by the Italians and not by the Germans

@Balrog2005 7 ай бұрын

@@giudicedredd9195 Yeah, a part the ''delete it'' and the propaganda accusation I see nothing from you in the form of counter point, facts, etc... that's very amusing, so keep seated waiting that I ''delete it''. I will keep reading of course, I will speak about Italy if I know something even if it triggers some internet nationalist keyboard warrior. Thanks for your message, it was a good laugh.

@HarborLockRoad Жыл бұрын

Strange in the fact the famous Vespa scooters were made immedily post war of stamped steel monocoque construction to be lighter than the steel body over tube frame Lambrettas.... Obviously, someone learned a lesson! 😉👍

@clementnoel6663 Жыл бұрын

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@antoniomatteocazzella915 Жыл бұрын

Volava con la grazia di un meteorite e la dignità di un mattone!

@koalafan1455 Жыл бұрын

i always thought it looked like a crocodile tbh, can’t really justify why

@GreenHoleSun 10 ай бұрын

This airplane was not so terrible, simply it was not designed to be a light bomber...in the best case scenario it could have been a decent heavy fighter or reconnaissance airplane but the italian air force had little use for this kind of plane.

@CathodeRayNipplez Жыл бұрын

It's not goofy looking at all.

@lolloblue9646 2 ай бұрын

Building basically two airframes one inside the other was a terrible idea

@Riccardo_Silva Жыл бұрын

I think this aircraft epitomizes the real value of fascist dictatorship in my beloved Italy: a hollow, pretentious propaganda driven attempt. There's not much more that can be said about it...apart from many brave pilots being wasted!

@HarborLockRoad Жыл бұрын

Ah, and how much better has 80 years of leftists in charge done for you? 😉

@12b_engineer Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a certain modern movement in the us. All virtue signaling while simultaneously hurting people.

@jimmcneal5292 Жыл бұрын

At least they did not import african immigrants

@Balrog2005 Жыл бұрын

Good one. All propaganda and arrogance and nothing in substance even if the country had a lot of good things, in good hands.

@1joshjosh1 Жыл бұрын

Good looking plane anyway.

@dantejones1480 Жыл бұрын

2,000 HP Racing engines, yet the airplane engines never went past 800, 900, or 1,000.

@mabpt 11 ай бұрын

Leave it to the Italians to make an aircraft to be the exception to the rule that if it looks good, it flies good.

@rogueplastic Жыл бұрын

Such a shame. What a beautiful aircraft. Although I would question whether this was a government issue, or a manufacturer one. Withholding information and overlooking problems. Bad testing with only taking bomb load into account. That sounds like someone just wanted to grab some government grant and stuffing their pockets, rather to develop something useful. Even the fact that they just threw together something based on an existing design shows that they probably didn't care that much about the actual use.

@lolloblue9646 2 ай бұрын

The high command of the Regia Aeronautica made absurd demands that could have never been fulfilled Breda's previous Ba. 65 was a very good plane for the mid 30s and was basically forced to stay in service longer to make up for the 88's failings